[RBW] Re: FS vintage bike parts

[Bill Fulford]

Bump- campagnolo nuovo record rear, patent 74, and front derailer. $60 
shipped conus. Please contact directly.

On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-4 Bill Fulford wrote:

> [image: 20578BDD-6550-4ECF-B0BD-A805BFA82726.jpeg]Way back in 1980 I 
> assembled my first quality bike. A Trek frame with campagnolo parts. The 
> frame is long gone and I’m ready to sell the parts. I prefer to sell them 
> all together. 
> 1. Cinelli stem and grand mondo handlebars
> 2. Campagnolo Nuevo record front and rear derailer 
> 3. Campy brakes minus the front nut
> 4. Camp brake levers, no hoods
> 5. Campy hubs- the cassette is free, sorry that I don’t have the tools to 
> remove it 
> 6. 3 campy clamps
>
> $215 includes shipping to conus. Please contact directly.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS

[Bill Fulford]

Sold.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-4 Bill Fulford wrote:

> For sale, Ahearne/map 610/25.4 silver handlebars with nitto Tallux 13 cm 
> stem. $110 shipped conus. Contact direct. ~Bill 

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[RBW] FS

[Bill Fulford]

For sale, Ahearne/map 610/25.4 silver handlebars with nitto Tallux 13 cm 
stem. $110 shipped conus. Contact direct. ~Bill 

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Orange Blossom Special 2024

[Bill Fulford]

Excellent ride report. It sounds like a great ride. I, too, have a Toyo 
Atlantis and am curious to know which Rene Herse knobby tire fit on your 
rig? Thanks.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 9:28:18 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words!
>
> Richard - that sounds like a good plan! We should all keep an eye out when 
> they open up the registration later this year. I have a feeling it will 
> fill up much quicker now that it's a thing.
>
> Steve - Thanks! I think you'd love this. When dry, these clay roads are 
> probably very similar to those dirt forest access roads in Asheville - just 
> without the forest! I know what you mean about the tenacity of the mud. My 
> drivetrain and cassette got gunked up with it during the worst part, and it 
> sounded like I was pedaling a toolbox full of nuts and bolts!
>
> Brian
> Lex KY
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:28:42 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Great report, great looking bike. Thanks for sharing!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bluelug Visit to Rivendell (Video)

[Bill Fulford]

I frames look very nice. I’m a bit surprised that they kept the name. I 
prefer the Gus Boots Willsen.

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:00:06 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Richard, 
> Right on 
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 2:55 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> I know !
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2023, at 5:35 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> @Richard,
>> Absolutely gorgeous Susie framesets !
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> And how about those lugged Susie’s! 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Minh  wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa-kyowhoQQ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great informal video of Blue Lug team visiting Rivendell HQ with a show 
>>> and tell of different staff member bikes.   
>>>
>>> I just visited Blue Lug last month and was amazed at how successful they 
>>> have become, i only knew them as an online store, but with multiple 
>>> locations, tons of products, i could argue that they are more successful 
>>> than Rivendell, but in this video they are still so curious and interested 
>>> in everything.   
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Re: [RBW] Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Bill Fulford]

Thanks everyone, I just toed in the brake pads and the squawk went away. 
I’m very thankful to be part of this very helpful group. Bill

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 10:03:12 AM UTC-4 James Valiensi wrote:

> Are Paul brakes worth the money? - in a word YES!
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Will Boericke  wrote:
>
> After some wear, brake pads need to be re-toed in, because they will wear 
> flat to the rim surface.  I suspect that will solve your problems.
>
> Will
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:04 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> I would enjoy hearing the feedback from those folks, who have used 
>> Yokozuna brake pads verses Salmon Koolstop pads. Are they any better ? or ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:45:43 AM UTC-7 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, 
>>>
>>> Salmon Koolstop pads stop well, but can be noisy, especially if they hit 
>>> the rim flat or slightly toed out. It is possible/probable that after 5 
>>> months the pads have worn enough to change the way they hit the rim, and 
>>> need to be adjusted a bit to be slightly toe-in. 
>>>
>>> Julia Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>>
>>>> The brakes are cantilever with salmon pads. I assume that the are 
>>>> properly mounted. The squawking began after about five months of riding. 
>>>> In 
>>>> the beginning there was no noise.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That noise is typical of a he salmon pads that ship on Paul brakes. 
>>>>> salmon pads stop really well but I’ve had several pair on different bikes 
>>>>> and different brake styles and after a bit they all started to make noise 
>>>>> no matter how I adjusted them. I’ve also found that Paul Motolites in 
>>>>> particular do not like having racks mounted to them. This made any 
>>>>> existing 
>>>>> brake noise multiples worse I assume due to the two sides being more 
>>>>> rigid 
>>>>> mounted together allowing for different resonance to occur and generate 
>>>>> more noise. This was particularly apparent on my Gus I assume due to its 
>>>>> unique front end geometry.
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion on the Paul Motolites is mixed. On the one hand, they’re 
>>>>> beautiful and the quick release mechanism is nice compared to typical 
>>>>> v-brakes with the noodle holding it all together. The adjustment 
>>>>> mechanism 
>>>>> is also a work of arm and does make adjusting for different when sizes a 
>>>>> bit nicer. However, I’m not sure they’re worth the money purely on the 
>>>>> basis of function. To me they’re like a designer handbag. They make a 
>>>>> nice 
>>>>> accessory when paired with other nice accessories and a good outfit they 
>>>>> can be stunning. But at the end of the day, a $5 handbag holds stuff as 
>>>>> well as a $300 handbag. My $30 Shimano Alivio v-brakes stop my Appaloosa 
>>>>> just as well as the $300 Motolites on my Gus. But my Gus is my pretty 
>>>>> show 
>>>>> bike that I take out on the town on a Sunny Saturday to get things at the 
>>>>> farmer’s market. My Appaloosa is my daily driver. I lock it up outside of 
>>>>> stores and restaurants and ride it, rain or shine, to work 5 days a week. 
>>>>> It’s still a nice bike but the parts on it are more utilitarian in 
>>>>> nature. 
>>>>> The frame is the flashiest piece of kit on the whole bike and I like it 
>>>>> that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM Julian Westerhout  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which brakes are they?  Which pads are you using? Are they properly 
>>>>>> slightly toed in? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos would help in making a diagnosis -- but I doubt the squawking 
>>>>>> is due to the brakes themselves -- more likely to be pad type and/or 
>>>>>> setup. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julian Westerhout
>>>>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5 B

Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Bill Fulford]

The brakes are cantilever with salmon pads. I assume that the are properly 
mounted. The squawking began after about five months of riding. In the 
beginning there was no noise.

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> That noise is typical of a he salmon pads that ship on Paul brakes. salmon 
> pads stop really well but I’ve had several pair on different bikes and 
> different brake styles and after a bit they all started to make noise no 
> matter how I adjusted them. I’ve also found that Paul Motolites in 
> particular do not like having racks mounted to them. This made any existing 
> brake noise multiples worse I assume due to the two sides being more rigid 
> mounted together allowing for different resonance to occur and generate 
> more noise. This was particularly apparent on my Gus I assume due to its 
> unique front end geometry.
>
> My opinion on the Paul Motolites is mixed. On the one hand, they’re 
> beautiful and the quick release mechanism is nice compared to typical 
> v-brakes with the noodle holding it all together. The adjustment mechanism 
> is also a work of arm and does make adjusting for different when sizes a 
> bit nicer. However, I’m not sure they’re worth the money purely on the 
> basis of function. To me they’re like a designer handbag. They make a nice 
> accessory when paired with other nice accessories and a good outfit they 
> can be stunning. But at the end of the day, a $5 handbag holds stuff as 
> well as a $300 handbag. My $30 Shimano Alivio v-brakes stop my Appaloosa 
> just as well as the $300 Motolites on my Gus. But my Gus is my pretty show 
> bike that I take out on the town on a Sunny Saturday to get things at the 
> farmer’s market. My Appaloosa is my daily driver. I lock it up outside of 
> stores and restaurants and ride it, rain or shine, to work 5 days a week. 
> It’s still a nice bike but the parts on it are more utilitarian in nature. 
> The frame is the flashiest piece of kit on the whole bike and I like it 
> that way.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM Julian Westerhout  
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, 
>>
>> Which brakes are they?  Which pads are you using? Are they properly 
>> slightly toed in? 
>>
>> Photos would help in making a diagnosis -- but I doubt the squawking is 
>> due to the brakes themselves -- more likely to be pad type and/or setup. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>
>>> I bought Paul brakes for my Atlantis and initially loved them. Now, 
>>> however, they squawk like a stuck goose. I’ve cleaned the rims, sanded the 
>>> pads but with no success. They were installed by a bike shop so I don’t 
>>> think that’s the problem. It’s embarrassing to ride at times. I’m looking 
>>> for suggestions to ease the noise. Thanks in advance. Bill
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a set of cantilevers and a set of center pulls, both purchased 
>>>> used off this list, I think.  What I really like about both sets is how 
>>>> easy it is to disconnect and re-connect the straddle cables making wheel 
>>>> removal and installation so much easier.  Even though I didn't pay full 
>>>> retail they were still quite pricey compared to what I had.  I don't 
>>>> regret 
>>>> my purchases at all.
>>>>
>>>> Bill S
>>>> San Diego
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:29:03 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul brakes are worth it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for 
>>>>> close to what you paid!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  
>>>>>> They're cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as 
>>>>>> opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me 
>>>>>>> back to cables and calipers o

Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Bill Fulford]

I bought Paul brakes for my Atlantis and initially loved them. Now, 
however, they squawk like a stuck goose. I’ve cleaned the rims, sanded the 
pads but with no success. They were installed by a bike shop so I don’t 
think that’s the problem. It’s embarrassing to ride at times. I’m looking 
for suggestions to ease the noise. Thanks in advance. Bill

On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:

> I have a set of cantilevers and a set of center pulls, both purchased used 
> off this list, I think.  What I really like about both sets is how easy it 
> is to disconnect and re-connect the straddle cables making wheel removal 
> and installation so much easier.  Even though I didn't pay full retail they 
> were still quite pricey compared to what I had.  I don't regret my 
> purchases at all.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:29:03 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Paul brakes are worth it. 
>>
>> If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for 
>> close to what you paid!
>>
>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:
>>
>>> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  
>>> They're cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as 
>>> opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:
>>>
 "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me 
 back to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly 
 and mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate 
 loads (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than 
 ol' 
 fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and 
 modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop 
 just fine w'cable brakes.  

 Jay

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 On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, good to know.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on 
>> new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the 
>> road 
>> but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. 
>> Your 
>> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the 
>>> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was 
>>> just 
>>> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers 
>>> would 
>>> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>>>
>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson <
>>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike 
 around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, 
 woot!). 

>>>
 Philip 
 Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Bill Fulford]

Hey Scott. I went with the Nitto face plater 135 mm for the stem. The bull 
bar is 70 cm wide and it’s a 31.8 diameter. It’s the one that Rivendell 
sells. I’m hoping that it’s a great fit. ~Bill

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:30:22 AM UTC-5 Scott wrote:

> Bill:
>
> Specifically, which model Nitto bull bar, clamp diameter, and width bar 
> are you considering running?
>
> I'm building an Atlantis, too. And I'm strongly considering a bull bar and 
> wonder what you're on to.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 06:57:32 AM MST, Bill Fulford <
> bill.fu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Good luck with your build. I’m in a similar situation, but mine is a 
> rebuild of a 15 year old Atlantis. I already have replaced the wheels with 
> Atlas rims and am on my second silver crank so I’m not going new on those. 
> New Paul brake levers and Canti brakes have arrived along with ergon 
> handlebar grips. New monarch pedals, nitto stem, Rivendell shifters, and 
> sim works super yummy tires have been collected. Im leaning toward the 
> Nitto bull bar as my reinvented Atlantis is going to be an all rounder. The 
> final cabling and adjustment will probably be done by my lbs as I like a 
> well tuned bike and I don’t have enough confidence in my mechanics. 
> It’s been fun researching and making decisions. ~Bill
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the 
> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while 
> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went 
> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but 
> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed 
> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the 
> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>
> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! 
> Lol!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've never 
> built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a 
> Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>
> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>
> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and true, 
> I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>
> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>
> #goheavyontheboeshield
>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Bill Fulford]

Good luck with your build. I’m in a similar situation, but mine is a 
rebuild of a 15 year old Atlantis. I already have replaced the wheels with 
Atlas rims and am on my second silver crank so I’m not going new on those. 
New Paul brake levers and Canti brakes have arrived along with ergon 
handlebar grips. New monarch pedals, nitto stem, Rivendell shifters, and 
sim works super yummy tires have been collected. Im leaning toward the 
Nitto bull bar as my reinvented Atlantis is going to be an all rounder. The 
final cabling and adjustment will probably be done by my lbs as I like a 
well tuned bike and I don’t have enough confidence in my mechanics. 
It’s been fun researching and making decisions. ~Bill
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the 
> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while 
> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went 
> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but 
> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed 
> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the 
> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>
> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! 
> Lol!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>
>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be 
>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>
>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>
>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>
>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>
>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>
>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Bill Fulford]

Bombadil, no question.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:51 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> hands down, a Legolas.. ideally a Taiwan-made frame to save a little coin..
>
> I just picked up a new-to-me Rambouillet, so I'm covered there for now.. 
> :) 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:12:54 PM UTC-8 jackd...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> My Hunqapillar is the favorite in the stable, but I think a case can 
>> really be made to bring back the Bleriot. Classic geometry, MIT (I believe) 
>> to keep the price reasonable, and I'd argue that the decal 
>>  is the best Riv 
>> has done. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:55:32 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level 
>>> top tube and shorter chain stays
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>>
 I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...

 I hope Grant is listening

 On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
 mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
 model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
 out of production modelwhich would you choose? 

 After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
 the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels 
 like 
 a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
 adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
 and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a 
 tale 
 of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 

 The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there 
 has never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL 
 Rounder - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still 
 obsessive with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 


 SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 

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[RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Bill Fulford]

Thanks for all of your thoughtful responses. I certainly believe that Paul 
brakes are excellent and worth the price. I guess that I was surprised that 
the price wasn’t for a full brake set. But that is me being out of touch 
with high quality components. Most likely I’m going to cancel the order and 
save Paul brakes for my dream bike, whatever that may be. Thank you for 
your responses.

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:10:24 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Bill, Since you asked, no , they're not worth it. I could give you my 
> reasons, but they would be no less a rationalization of why I don't buy or 
> use them as those that do. So you're right back to where you are, with a 
> pending order for what you thought was for a complete set but only half. 
> The guys @Riv will understand that.
>
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[RBW] Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Bill Fulford]

I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 2007 
Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to read later 
that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to spend. So 
before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m wondering how folks 
feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull brake with 
love levers. Are they worth it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Bill Fulford]

I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait! 
Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears 
maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it 
certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Thanks Jon!
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>
>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>
>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP 
>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the 
>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rivy Peps,

 There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
 so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
 some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
 close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
 course want to see a nice portrait too!

 Let's have some fun!

 Hugh Smiitham
 Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: [Repainted] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route

[Bill Fulford]

Awesome bike. The Bombadil is one of my favorites. How how you like the 
albatross bars?

On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:59:17 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:

> Congrats on your "new" Bombadil! The frame color looks very cool, 
> especially on the terrain you're riding.
> You wrote about Rene Herse taillight in another post; did you have a frame 
> builder drill a hole on your frame?
>
> Takashi
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Bill Fulford]

I’ve been riding my Gus for a year now. It’s taken some time to warm up to 
it, but having  ridden through the fall and now into winter I am loving it. 
It definitely feels heavy, but when I want a ride without windchill, a bike 
that can plow through water, mud, over roots, basically thru anything Maine 
offers, it is my go to bike. A peppy ride? Not how I would describe it. 
Strong and stable? Yes! Fun? Absolutely! Just yesterday I rode across deep 
frozen mud and felt confident, The bike hardly shifted. (I also ride 2.6 
tires). Hope this helps in your decision.  ~Bill

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:22:49 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> If you speak with anyone at Riv, I believe he will tell you what he really 
> believes is best, not a “sales” job. 
>
> I’ve called about a red Roscoe Bubbe to have a Joe Appaloosa (purchased 
> from a dealer instead of direct; they would have made more money with a 
> full Rosco build) suggested instead.  I’ve called about a Cheviot to be 
> told I should wait a few years until their newer model (which became the 
> Platypus) comes out. I’ve been extremely happy heeding their advice. 
>
> Good luck with your first Riv
>
> Roberta 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 1:48:43 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello all! Long time Riv admirer. But, I always hesitate long enough to 
>> miss out on buying one. 
>>
>> I ride a Chumba Ursa mountain bike. It tows my daughter, grocery runs, 
>> any trail ever. I ride the bike mellow in my opinion, but I’ve been told 
>> maybe I’m more aggressive than I feel. Jumps are common when a water bar is 
>> good, even fully loaded. But they are always a smooth landing. I ride a 
>> 29x2.6 and find it great for most terrain. Snow is rare but not something I 
>> don’t ride in. I had an LWB Jones complete and very much enjoyed the bike. 
>> But, 37lbs without saddle or pedals was my first time feeling like a bike 
>> is too heavy to be fun. And it was the shortest lived bike I’ve ever had. 
>> I’ve never felt that disc brakes were an upgrade really. For reference, I 
>> am 6’1” 170lbs. 90 PBH puts me between sizes on the upper end so that is 
>> always nice to hear what others prefer!
>>
>> Anyhow, am I a Riv candidate? With the Gus And Susie pre sale starting 
>> soon I wanted to ask the group opinion. I will call them and I’m sure they 
>> can sell me that I am. But that’s their job. 
>>
>> Thanks to anyone who has some insight, I appreciate it in advance!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Personal Experiences Request.

[Bill Fulford]

Hugh, I run g ones 2.25 on my Atlantis with Atlas rims. The tire pushes the 
limit but does work. The tires are solid on turns. I have an older model 
Atlantis so they barely fit on the frame. I’m curious how you plan on 
setting up your bike. Your previous Atlantis is one of my favorites, a true 
touring bike!

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a 
> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018 
> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the 
> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent.
>
> On with the question,
>
> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR 
> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does 
> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a 
> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build 
> quality and then later impressions.
>
> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver 
> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub 
> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to 
> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it? 
>
> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :( 
> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed. 
> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent 
> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims 
> at $165 nope! 
>
> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on the 
> Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let me 
> know? 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact. 
>
> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on 
> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My 
> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there 
> an esi like grip that's removes simply?
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[Bill Fulford]

I’m quite confused about the handlebar set up with my Gus Boots WILLsen. How 
would waivie bars with the nitto v4 work. I like a little forward lean as to 
not have too much weight on the saddle. Tough decisions.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Rivendell model names?

[Bill Fulford]

Favorites: Atlantis, Gus Boots Willsen, Appaloosa, Hunqapillar. Hard to beat 
these names.

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[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for Gus\Susie

[Bill Fulford]

I got lucky and snagged a large GB Willsen and now am thinking about 
handlebars. What are Gus\Susie owners going to use for handlebars? Thanks for 
your input. Bill

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[RBW] Bikes and Recovering from shoulder surgery

[Bill Fulford]

Hey Jim. Sorry to hear of your injury. Sounds like I had the same surgery as 
you will be having. I was involved in a hit and run and tore my labrum. I would 
like to say it was an easy recovery, but it wasn't. I had the surgery in 
November and finished pt in February. I went three times a week in the 
beginning and twice at the end. I was back cycling in May.  I did make 
adjustments to the bike, raised the stem and rode with albatrosses. The key was 
getting weight off the shoulder for the first few weeks. 
 My advice to you is to never miss pt. it's painful but in the end it keeps 
your shoulder from freezing. Keep on  top of the pain. I'm not one for using 
narcotics for pain but it's necessary. I used to take one right after pt, 
without it sleep is not happening. The only benefit from the whole accident was 
receiving a small settlement from which I was able to buy my Atlantis. Good 
luck.  Bill

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[RBW] Atlantis/Hilsen owners

[Bill Fulford]

I own an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar. I have them set up differently. The 
Atlantis is stripped of fenders and racks and I'm using it as an all-rounder. 
The Hunqapillar has racks, 700 by 50 tires. I'm using the Atlantis like , I 
think a Hilsen would be used. I'm thinking of selling the Hunqapillar and 
getting a Hilsen. The Atlantis is a great bike, my favorite but seems a bit 
sluggish on quicker road rides. My goal is to get a quicker ride, not racing. 
So, in a round about way here is my question, if I set up an Atlantis and 
Hilsen with similar wheels, tires etc, am I really going to feel a difference 
in quickness, speed etc. between the Atlantis and Hilsen frames?Any thoughts 
would be appreciated. Bill

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[RBW] Help me decide

[Bill Fulford]

I own both an Atlantis and Hunqapillar and if I had to choose I'd go with the 
Atlantis. To me the Atlantis is just about the perfect bike a person could own. 
You can do anything on an Atlantis. Presently I ride it fender less, rack less 
and it moves quickly. I can put fenders and knobbies on her and I'm ready for 
trails and gravel. For me the Hunqapillar is a bit sluggish. Definitely stout 
and stable but pushing her through a headwind is quite a chore. That's my 0.02.

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[RBW] All rounder

[Bill Fulford]

It's snowing again in Maine and although I got a short ride in this morning I'm 
beginning to get a bad case of cabin fever. I was looking through my favorites 
on Flickr and was impressed by several photos of the all rounder. I came to 
rivendell after this model and know very little about it. What I'm most curious 
about is which current production model is most like the all rounder? Any 
insights would be appreciated.  Bill

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[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

[Bill Fulford]

I assume it's the first generation Hunqapillar , grey and red. The smart SAMs 
are 2.25 and there is plenty of room for fenders. This is the bike I 
photographed for you yesterday. I hope you got the photos.  Bill

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[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

[Bill Fulford]

I agree. I ride the smart SAMs in the winter on the Hunqapillar. They are 
remarkably smooth and yet have a lot of grip. When I switch to the duremes my 
ride is quieter but not much faster. Either way both tires are excellent.

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[RBW] How cold was your first day ride?

[Bill Fulford]

Kennebunk Maine, 19 degrees, felt like 4. Baby it's cold out there. Rode the 
Hunqapillar and enjoyed the ride.

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