[RBW] Gravel King SK Nibs

[BobW]

My Sam Hillborne (not canti model)  had previously installed Rene Herse 
Barlow Pass tires under Berthoud 50mm fenders.  Clearances were great, and 
all worked very well.

For winter riding, I recently installed Gravel King SK 38's, but now I'm 
getting a rubbing buzz sound from the tire "bibs" brushing against the 
fenders.

Has anyone experienced this and found a solution??  Other than new wider 
fenders, is there an easy way to trim the "nibs"??

thanks!

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[RBW] Fenders for Roadeo

[BobW]

Looking for thoughts on metal fenders for my Roadeo.  I believe the max 
tire size for fenders on a Roadeo is 32 or 33's???  So presuming a 45mm 
fender width works?  

Ideally I would like to install metal fenders.  I have Berthouds on my Sam, 
and they are solid, work well, and look great.  Wondering if anyone has has 
a good experience for metal fenders on a Roadeo that  they can share??

thanks!!
Bob

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[RBW] Billie Bar Hooks

[BobW]

I recently converted my Sam from drops to Billie Bars.  I do like the 
Billie Bars a lot, especially the multiple hand positions and upright 
posture they provide.

I do find myself riding in the "hooks" more often than the swept back 
portion of the bar though.  I wrapped the hooks with some cork tape, with 
Newbaums over that.  While this helps with grips and provides some cushion, 
wondering if there are any other "Billie Bar Hook" riders out there who 
have augmented the hook section of the bar for greater comfort?  Thanks!


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[RBW] ISO/WTB tall 120mm quill stem 25.4 with removeable faceplate

[BobW]

Been scouring the forums & websites for something like the Rive Faceplater 
for 25.4 bar with a 120mm reach, and tall.  Very  to used in decent shape.

Anyone have one hey want to be rid of? or know of where one can be 
obtained??

thanks!!
Bob

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[RBW] Re: New Handlebar Suggestions

[BobW]

Thanks Joe,  any tips for determining the proper stem length??

On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 5:00:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Billies are great for all the room they have from the ends up to the 
> curves. Bosco and Tosco have a long flat section up front for a good aero 
> position. The most important part is to get a really dang long stem to get 
> the bars forward on a bike that was running drops, the reachback is going 
> to be a marked change from what you're used to. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> 60, bad back and wrists, Boscos! 
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 1:30:04 PM UTC-8 BobW wrote:
>
>> I'm contemplating moving my Sam Hillborne from dropbar Noodles to some 
>> kind of upright/swept back handlebar, and to be honest, I am a bit 
>> overwhelmed by the various options.  By way of background, all I have ever 
>> know are dropbar handlebars; but at 60, I'm thinking the sweptback/upright 
>> might be a more comfortable option for my back!!  I like the idea of the 
>> aerodynamic benefit of the drops, so wondering what style of upright might 
>> offer aero for the occasional headwind.  From what I have read on this as 
>> well as a few other forums, the RBW Billiebars seems to get high marks.  I 
>> realize bar styles are somewhat subjective, however hoping the vast wisdom 
>> of the RBW Owners Bunch might educate me.  TIA!!
>>
>>

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[RBW] New Handlebar Suggestions

[BobW]

I'm contemplating moving my Sam Hillborne from dropbar Noodles to some kind 
of upright/swept back handlebar, and to be honest, I am a bit overwhelmed 
by the various options.  By way of background, all I have ever know are 
dropbar handlebars; but at 60, I'm thinking the sweptback/upright might be 
a more comfortable option for my back!!  I like the idea of the aerodynamic 
benefit of the drops, so wondering what style of upright might offer aero 
for the occasional headwind.  From what I have read on this as well as a 
few other forums, the RBW Billiebars seems to get high marks.  I realize 
bar styles are somewhat subjective, however hoping the vast wisdom of the 
RBW Owners Bunch might educate me.  TIA!!

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[RBW] Re: What Berthoud Saddle is this??

[BobW]

It is definitely narrower.  I measured 150mm with calipers.  

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:47:52 PM UTC-5 lu...@bikepacking.com wrote:

> The Galibier/Soulor only have two bolt assemblies visible on the rear of 
> the saddle, unlike the Aspin/Aravis, which have four, like this one. It 
> does look a little bit narrower than an Aravis in your photos, but I can't 
> tell if it's just distortion in the image. 
>
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:15:50 PM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
>> The Soulor and Galibier don't have the option for saddle bag hooks on the 
>> rear. Can you shoot a side-profile of the saddle so we can help? 
>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a Galibier (ti version of Soulor), which is claimed 146mm 
>>> wide.  
>>>
>>> https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/535-leather-saddle-galibier-black.html
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:31:42 PM UTC-8 BobW wrote:
>>>
>>>> I came across a used Gilles Berthoud saddle in my travels.  It has 
>>>> titanium rails, so I assumed it is the "Aravis" model (same as Aspin but 
>>>> different rails.
>>>>
>>>> However it seemed narrow to me so I measured it and it comes out to 
>>>> 150mm wide; not the 157mm the the Aspin/Aravis are spec'd at.
>>>>
>>>> Wondering if this is a discontinued model??  Anyone familiar with these 
>>>> saddles??
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] What Berthoud Saddle is this??

[BobW]

I came across a used Gilles Berthoud saddle in my travels.  It has titanium 
rails, so I assumed it is the "Aravis" model (same as Aspin but different 
rails.

However it seemed narrow to me so I measured it and it comes out to 150mm 
wide; not the 157mm the the Aspin/Aravis are spec'd at.

Wondering if this is a discontinued model??  Anyone familiar with these 
saddles??

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[RBW] IRD Brake Lever Set Cafam-S vs. Paul Canti levers

[BobW]

I'm looking at the *IRD Brake Lever Set Cafam-S * 

 for 
a conversion from drops to swept back bars.  I originally was considering 
the Paul Canti levers, which get great reviews.  Does anyone have any 
insights on the IRD Canfam's in comparison to the Pauls??
I think they both have bearing pivots .  

thanks!!

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[RBW] Paul Canti-lever alternatives

[BobW]

I'm planning to reconfigure my Sam Hillborne from drop bars to 
upright/flat/sweptback bars; so am looking for short pull brake lever 
options.  I love the Paul Canti Levers, but they are a bit pricey.  Looking 
for "affordable" suggestions for silver levers of similar quality to the 
Pauls.  Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Front low rider rack for Sam Hillborne

[BobW]

Thanks for the input.  Ideally, I'm looking for a rack where the attachment 
point align with the standard Riv braze on point at the dropout and 
mid-fork.  It appears that the Nitto Mark's MF2 rack that Rive carries 
works, but is kind of pricey @ $221 
(https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-marks-hub-area-rack-with-hoop-mf2-20236?_pos=6&_sid=f551ef3e9&_ss=r)
So looking for less expensive alternatives to this.  Thanks!!

On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 10:36:29 AM UTC-4 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Not that it's entirely helpful, but when I had a buddy add canti posts to 
> my Sam for a 650b conversion, I also had him add lowrider bosses for a 
> Tubus Tara. 
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 9:13:45 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's how I did it:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bQ6G2tBKHaWeErrr8
>>
>> I never really used it, but I don't like racks and prefer large front 
>> handlebar bags.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 4:55:28 PM UTC-5 BobW wrote:
>>
>>> I'm considering taking my Sam on some bike tours so looking into from 
>>> lowrider rack for front panniers.  I already have a rear Tubus rack, so 
>>> would be wanting to utilize the low riders for additional panniers.  
>>> Looking for suggestions for proven solutions that fit the same well.   BTW, 
>>> my Sam is a non-canti model - sidepull calipers.
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Front low rider rack for Sam Hillborne

[BobW]

I'm considering taking my Sam on some bike tours so looking into from 
lowrider rack for front panniers.  I already have a rear Tubus rack, so 
would be wanting to utilize the low riders for additional panniers.  
Looking for suggestions for proven solutions that fit the same well.   BTW, 
my Sam is a non-canti model - sidepull calipers.

Thanks!!

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[RBW] Re: New Roadinis will have clearance for 42 mm tires

[BobW]

That's great to hear!  Where did you see this announcement?  I did not 
notice anything on the Riv website???

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 12:46:12 AM UTC-5 Eamon Nordquist wrote:

> I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw designed for 
> R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good news, as far as I’m 
> concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that they aren’t 
> coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my opinion. That 
> may be influenced by my love for the silver gray imron paint on early 80’s 
> Treks. Regardless, if I have a  job by then, I may have to get one.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Waterford Roadeo

[BobW]

Nice looking Roadeo!   I thought the Roadeo maxed out at 33.3 width 
tires??  How did you manage to get 38's on there?   Are the clearances 
really tight??



On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 8:07:33 PM UTC-5 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Up for sale is my 59cm Roadeo, built by Waterford, with threaded fork.  It 
> is the Maroon colorway shown on the Riv product page 
>  (or very close to that color).  
> This frame has mid-fork eyelets installed.  As far as I know, I am the 
> third owner.  I bought it off a fellow RBWOB lister last winter, rode it 
> over the spring and summer, but it has been stored in the garage since 
> then.  I love the bike but I don't foresee as much use as I'd like, and 
> would rather send it on to a new home.
>
> Frame is in good used shape.  There are plenty of signs of beausage on the 
> paint, but no dents or rust.  I sprayed it with Boeshield before building 
> it up.  It has never been crashed to my knowledge.
>
> Here's Riv's geometry chart with a link to PBH sizing recommendations. 
>   My PBH is right 
> around 85, and this size worked for me.
>
> Photos are here. 
> 
>  
>
> The build list is below.  The front der, wheels, brakes, brake levers, and 
> shifters were from a previous build, but are in good shape.  Though there 
> is some scraping on shifters and levers.  All other parts were bought new.
>
> I am asking $3500 for the complete bike, plus LBS packing fee, and 
> shipping to lower 48.  Located in Lincoln, NE.  I am not interested in 
> trades.  I might be open to parting it out, if there isn't interest in the 
> complete.
>
> Please contact me off list with questions or offers.  Thank you for 
> reading,
> -Gabe
>
> Cockpit: 
> Nitto/Crust Shaka bars, 54cm
> Nitto/Crust stem (30 degree, 60mm)
> TRP RRL SL levers
> Microshift bar ends, 11 sp
> ESI bar tape
> Cane Creek 100 headset
>
> Drivetrain:
> Wheels: Velocity A23 rims, XT hubs, hand built at Monkey Wrench Cyles 
> 
> Butted spokes, black hardware
> Compass Barlow Pass EL
> Tubes with Orange Seal sealant
> White Industries R30 double crankset (46tX36t)
> White Industries bottom bracket
> Simworks bubbly pedals
> Ultegra rear der (11 speed)
> 9 Sp XT cassette 11-32
> 105 front der
>
> Brakes:
> Paul Racer centerpulls
> Paul Funky Monkey cable stop
> Paul Moon units
>
> Saddle: Brooks C17 carved
> Seatpost: Nitto S65
>
> (Spurcycle bell in photos is not included) 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[BobW]

Yea, the arm that hold th top tub of the bike move vertically independently 
of one another, so could accomodate the slope of the mixte frames

Let us know what you eventually decide upon; with pics of course!!!


On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 1:56:54 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bob, this could work! Looks like the mixte tube isn’t a problem with this 
> rack, too! 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 12:17 PM, BobW  wrote:
>
> Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
> wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper 
> bracket great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167135146302&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2231711972723674310&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005533&hvtargid=pla-154725647530&psc=1
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
>> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
>> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
>> thread.
>>
>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
>> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
>> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
>> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
>> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>>
>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[BobW]

Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper 
bracket great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though

https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167135146302&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2231711972723674310&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005533&hvtargid=pla-154725647530&psc=1

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
> thread.
>
> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>
> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[BobW]

The bars are  45cm  Nitto Grand Randonneur B135 .   Wider might be 
preferable though

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:

> That looks great and is really close to what I have in my head, right down 
> to the Cane Creek levers.  I'm deciding between using the Cane Creek levers 
> with a new set of Deore V-brakes or justing running standard levers with a 
> short-pull brake like the Paul Mini Motos.  What handlebars are you using?
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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