[RBW] Re: FS Clem Jr H

[Bustini]

BTW, I'm located near Santa Barbara, CA

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:33:34 PM UTC-7, Bustini wrote:
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> Hi allI'm selling my year old Clem. SON Dyno (no lights),  Pletscher 
> rack, VO saddle. Great condition! $900.please PM if interested.
>

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[RBW] WTB: Sackville Hub Area Bars, Grey

[Bustini]

I'm looking for a pair of these grey beauties!

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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Bustini]

I have a 52 Clem and a 55 Appaloosa.The Clem is super smooth. That thing 
glides on pavement! The Appa is not quite as "plush", a bit quicker 
steering. Both bikes inspire confidence in corners. They are both great 
bikes to ride. Smiles very time!

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 1:11:07 PM UTC-8, Richard Rios wrote:
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> So a few weeks back The Wheelhouse los angeles posted on their facebook 
> page that they had some Clems, Appas, and Sams in stock. So I though Howdee 
> I live close enough to there to grab a quick look. And there is a pretty 
> decent ramen shop near by score twofer! Also to be completely honest the 
> new bike bug has been biting a bit. Anyhow I stopped by to check out the 
> bikes, the clem that was my size 52 had already been sold and I have owned 
> a Sam so I was offered a test ride on the Appa. It was a size to small but 
> they got things close enough for me to take it for a spin...and well WOW 
> was I surprised! Not that I should have been per say but I was. Two words 
> Smooth and responsive! Like a Caddie with Porsche handling! Also loved the 
> choco moose bars that were on there. The forward hand position felt really 
> good to me and natural better than that of the Albas for compairson. So as 
> for the crow I've been a bit of a poopooer on the whole long CS thing. Not 
> in any major way but based on my experience with a particular bike. Now I 
> don't know if the feeling I got was because of the smaller frame or bar 
> position or simply because it was a parking lot test ride and the bike is 
> STUNNING! But man was I impressed. So much so I whent ahead and ordered a 
> Clem. Not the appa I know but I had sold a few bikes recently and thats 
> what I had the scratch for. Still might be an appa in my future as an 
> upgrade from clem if need be. Anyway when the Clem arrives I sure hope I 
> have the same experience all over again and get to eat a great big giant 
> Clem Smith / long CS CROW pie!

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[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[Bustini]

I have a 52 Clem and a 55 Joe. The Clem is a smooth,comfortable ride. I am 
really enjoying the at one. I've had it about 4 months now.
The Appaloosa has a stiffer feel to it. I have the Chocomouse bars dropped 
as low as possible and I find them to be nearly perfect. They're fine for 
climbing. I've got this one set up for touring, so it's carrying some rack 
weight. It's a beauty


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 11:21:30 AM UTC-8, mike smith wrote:
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> Has anyone riden both?  How do they compare & contrast?
>
> I have a 59cm Clem and I'm considering a 58 Joe.  91 PBH.
>

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[RBW] Re: Bars for Climbing

[Bustini]

Nice setup! 

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 7:03:37 PM UTC-7, Kai Vierstra wrote:
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> Bosco'd out of the box, then choco'd 
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> -Kai
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> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:51:53 AM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts 
> wrote:
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>> Kai,Thanks. Would love to see photo.   Jim  D   
>>  Massachusetts
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 11:24:29 AM UTC-4, Kai Vierstra wrote:
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>>> Yes, I did (put choco-mooses on my Clem). They're great, wouldn't mind a 
>>> little more extension, but great regardless.
>>> Still plenty upright and comfy, and I love having the triangle to run a 
>>> cable through on extended lockups in the city. Never having to worry about 
>>> bar slippage or fussing with stem swaps in a quest for extension perfection 
>>> is another added bonus of the Bullmoose style. Will post a photo if that 
>>> helps your decision. 
>>> -Kai Vierstra 
>>> Brooklyn NY 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bars for Climbing

[Bustini]

Thanks, Val!

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 4:23:07 PM UTC-7, Valerie Yates wrote:
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> I did a loaded tour with a lot of climbing (the San Juan Skyway clockwise 
> from Durango) on my Joe and I quite enjoyed the seated, upright climbing 
> position. It was completely comfortable and the views were amazing. I think 
> the handlebars would allow a more downward angle but, for me, it was the 
> saddle that made that position undesirable. A saddle that is comfortable 
> sitting upright is not, for me, comfortable leaning forward due to back of 
> thigh chafing. So while I normally ride a Brooks B17 Imperial on my drop 
> bar bikes, I prefer the Brooks B67 on the Joe -- but only if I am seated 
> fairly upright.  I hope that helps!
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
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> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 4:44:41 PM UTC-6, Bustini wrote:
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>> Does the Choco-Moose bar allow for enough forward and downward lean to 
>> make for a decent (for me) climbing position? 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bars for Climbing

[Bustini]

Thanks for the great reply and information, Patrick!

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 4:47:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Dear Bustini, congrats on soon lulling the trigger on an Appaloosa! Sweet! 
> I can't speak to choco-moose bars (though I've come across 
> choco-moose-muffins on occation, but they are another thing entirely. 
> Useful for starting fires in a pinch, once dried though). Grin. Here is 
> some generic bar advice based on my experience with riding drops, Albatross 
> (including inverted), Moustache, Albastache, Boscos, and watching my 
> daughters ride Boscos on their old bikes and now their Clementines.
>
> 1) Arm bend will get you however low you need to go, and the percentage of 
> "need" a low position in a given day on the road/trail is usually pretty 
> low (but headwinds on the open planes are a real buggaboo!). As Valerie 
> alludes to, comfort in the saddle and with the relationship between saddle 
> and bars is more important than getting low. Dial that in, then figure out 
> how to get low when you need to. You'll be stunned how seldom that is, and 
> then how brief it is (again, barring a day riding next to Laura, Mary, Ma, 
> and Pa in their wagon). Grin.
>
> 2) The "wrong" bars from Rivendell are generally "right" or at least 
> workable most of the time. If you find they aren't in enough situations 
> that you are motivated to experiment with your cockpit setup, that's it's 
> own amazing adventure. Mean road, get the bike you want, ride the bars it 
> comes with, get to know them, love what they do well, discover what you 
> wish they did better, scratch your head, and go from there. Grin.
>
> 3) All Grant bars have climbing and descending positions. He and the rest 
> of the elves ride up and down Mount Diablo until Satan's grin looks like 
> Mr. Ed's it's so rutted. Play with them. You'll find them. Where they are 
> may surprise you, but you'll find them.
>
> 4) Have fun!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 4:44:41 PM UTC-6, Bustini wrote:
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>> I'm close to buying an Appaloosa, to be used for everything including 
>> loaded touring. There will be plenty of climbing to be done, so my question 
>> is this: Does the Choco-Moose bar allow for enough forward and downward 
>> lean to make for a decent (for me) climbing position? And how about a stiff 
>> headwind? Is the position too upright? I really like a rather upright 
>> riding position for most conditions, but I like to crouch when necessary. 
>> Should I consider putting drops on the bike? I know this is all somewhat 
>> subjective, but I could use some sage advice that is based in actual 
>> experience. Thank you all!
>>
>

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[RBW] Bars for Climbing

[Bustini]

I'm close to buying an Appaloosa, to be used for everything including 
loaded touring. There will be plenty of climbing to be done, so my question 
is this: Does the Choco-Moose bar allow for enough forward and downward 
lean to make for a decent (for me) climbing position? And how about a stiff 
headwind? Is the position too upright? I really like a rather upright 
riding position for most conditions, but I like to crouch when necessary. 
Should I consider putting drops on the bike? I know this is all somewhat 
subjective, but I could use some sage advice that is based in actual 
experience. Thank you all!

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