Re: [RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[Chester]

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 10:07:11 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:


Timothy - What’s your dream bike? We wanna see…

As for your locking method, same. I think it’s kind of the only good way to 
do it. Lock through the fame/back wheel, then cable through the front 
wheel. I guess a second U-lock for the front wheel/frame is always safer 
but starts to get heavy. I’m heavy enough without 2 U-locks strapped to me. 


If the hospital you work at has an area to lock up the bikes that is pretty 
well trafficked and someone going at a U-lock with an angle grinder is not 
typically going to be ignored, then I would worry about security a lot 
less. Especially if in view of staff who are usually around. Even more so 
if you lock up with two locks. Good idea to leave one at work and carry one 
with you. Even better if one is a high security chain so that they're two 
different styles. 

And especially if you ugly it up. I wouldn't festoon it with stickers, but 
you could wrap up sections with old inner tubes and/or mismatched cloth 
tape that you get a little grimy to make it look more like it might be 
someone's random, old mass-produced steel beater. 

I don't think thieves are going to target something like a Rivendell so 
much. A bike that needs to be recognized by someone who knows what it is to 
get what it's worth, but which also is more noteworthy and attracts more 
detailed attention. Maybe I'm thinking too much into it and there might be 
plenty of thieves very happy to sell off a Riv. But, in any case, I 
wouldn't be surprised at all if your Surly would be as tempting a target 
than your Rivs, maybe even more.

Chester
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

[Chester]

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 3:42:11 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

I used to put my work kit into a shoulder bag and put that bag into my 
Carradice Camper Longflap; I still don't understand the advantages of a big 
front basket except that you don't need to undo and re-do straps.


Probably the undoing and redoing of straps is the big disadvantage, at 
least when it comes to using a bike as urban transport, in an area where a 
saddlebag is likely to get stolen. It's a pain if you're hopping around.

That said, I used to have a laptop and misc inside a bag that I'd chuck 
into an Ortlieb Back Roller. To get the work bag off my back, and also to 
put it into something totally waterproof. It was super convenient, still, 
to click the Ortlieb right off. 

I'd sometimes go grocery shopping and load everything into one or two of 
the Ortliebs. Probably mostly just 15-25 pounds. Wasn't going far, so 
affect on handling didn't really matter, even though this was on a bike 
with race geo. Didn't have mounting eyelets on front fork so I was limited 
to a rear rack.

Chester
SF Bay Area
 

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[RBW] Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[Chester]

Anyone getting in on the latest batch of Homers?

https://www.rivbike.com/products/homer

I fought off the urge to get one by realizing that I'm still needing to 
push myself to find time to ride my Roadini more, that it probably suits me 
better, and the main reason why I have a strong urge to get the Homer is 
the cosmetics of the fully lugged frame.

Scarce garage space helps dull the G.A.S. too.

Chester
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Chester]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 8:37:28 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And they 
managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, however, do 
the peg and fold - remember that?!


Wow, flashback to Bugle Boys. 

When I ride to/from work, I just roll up my pants (without pegging), and 
often just walk around all day with the one leg still rolled up.

For longer riding to ride, I don't wear kit any more. Might wear something 
with a chamois but underneath "regular" shorts. Otherwise am wearing pretty 
much whatever I'd normally wear off the bike.

For shoes, though, when riding to ride, I got some of those Adidas 
Velosambas. They've got a recessed spot for 2-bolt SPD cleats but I ride 
them without cleats, on pedals with clips and straps. So I don't have to 
swap pedals for when I don't want to wear the Velosambas, e.g. for work. 
The Velosambas would be fine for a normal day but are stiff enough that I 
wouldn't choose to wear them off the bike. Which makes them better than 
normal sneakers while riding. Stiffer than the Five Tens I have for flat 
pedal MTB.

Chester 
SF Bay Area 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ATTENTION ! Someone posted on r/Rivendell_Bicycles the map of Rivendell bike owners

[Chester]

I don't want to come across as being an alarmist or encouraging people to 
be paranoid but if someone has your full name and city of residence, it can 
take just a few seconds of Internet searching to get your address. It's 
easier to find the right listing if the name is more unique and/or the city 
is smaller.

It's pretty much impossible to obscure yourself if you shop online. When 
you enter in your purchasing/shipping information, that information will 
get resold to companies that sell access to databases. But, without paying 
a dime, it's easy to look up a name and find current and prior addresses, 
phone numbers, e-mail addresses, names of people one lived with, etc. 
There's also harvesting of property tax records and other data sources. 

All that said, I doubt that there is much appeal in a bike thief trying to 
specifically target Rivendell owners for home burglaries. There are much 
more common and more valuable bicycles to target that are also much more 
easy to sell on the down-low. And there are a lot of more seemingly 
prevalent ways for thieves to find targets. Follow riders they see riding 
expensive rigs. Drive through neighborhoods and notice what's inside of 
open garages. Look for $1000+ bike racks on vehicles. Or just take an angle 
grinder out on the streets.

Chester
SF Bay Area
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 2:03:51 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Apologies for the late response. I've been out canoeing and camping in 
> this gorgeous Fall weather!
>
> So far, anybody who has asked to be removed has been so (with the 
> exception of Stoker because I can't find you on the map).
>
> I have also removed a few street addresses upon request and changed them 
> to crossroads in your town.
>
> Again, if you like the map and want to be on it, but are uncomfortable 
> with your location being known, please choose a taco stand, the police 
> station, or the local food bank as your address. 
>
> If you want out, please let me know and give me your name and town as you 
> appear on the map.
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-7 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> and for those that failed to read the actual website before raising their 
>> hackles and wildly speculating and adding unrelated stories, If you don't 
>> want to put your home address, it recommends hoosing a random address in 
>> your town or vague lat/long to add some anonymity but also to keep the 
>> markers from overlapping when just entering the city.
>>
>> Not sure what all the fuss is about eitherway. 1: this has nothing to do 
>> with reddit other than that's where the link to the existing site was 
>> posted.  2: The site was originally posted on iBOB long ago, and I think 
>> here too.
>> 3: Everyone self signed up, it's not like this was data scraped from 
>> other sources or from any sales records.   
>> Nobody's info is out there that didn't want it out there.
>>
>> --ben in KC
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:35 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like the solution to this would be to just pick a random point in 
>>> your city, or a favorite establishment’s address, or a park or what have 
>>> you. Let that be your location on the map.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Caroline Golum  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems like the subreddit is pretty sparsely attended so at least 
>>> there's that!
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 2:01:19 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John — Of course the map itself doesn't have a dark-sided or hidden 
>>>> intent. I know you're trying to help people connect and I appreciate the 
>>>> gesture. However there is no telling what people can and will do with a 
>>>> database like this. Because this forum is visible to the public I would 
>>>> never add my street address. I am reminded of a story about someone who 
>>>> had 
>>>> two valuable Rene Herse bicycles stolen and they later figured out their 
>>>> home address was visible on Strava. 
>>>>
>>>> It seems the Reddit post was deleted but the original map is easy to 
>>>> find here. I know it's uncomfortable to think that people could use this 
>>>> information for nefarious purposes. But the fun and innocent oroginal 
>>>> intent doesn't reduce the risk. I think because the visible members of the 
>>>> forum are kind and generous it's easy to think that anyone reading our 
>>>> posts has a

[RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Chester]

Super similar to 1Up racks are the ones made by QuikrStuff, licensing 
design by the creator of the 1Up rack design:

https://quikrstuff.com/

Looks like he refined the design in at least a few nice ways. They're 
backordered with lead time estimated at 2 months, according to their 
website. 

Chester
SF Bay Area

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-8 Omar Sandoval wrote:

> Another vote for the 1UP. Their "wheel stop" accessory/add-on holds my 
> fendered bike very well (https://1up-usa.com/product/wheel-stop). You can 
> also adjust the arms to mount bikes with smaller wheels. (As small as 16").
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 12:35:15 PM UTC-7 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 
>> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>> Sally
>>
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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

Robert Tilley wrote:

My favorite camera to carry on the bike is the Sony RX100. It takes great 
photos and is pretty compact. 


When I carry a camera, it's been an RX100 (III), too. After all these 
years, it's still a really nice package compromise of overall size, sensor 
size, and zoom range.  

But, for more than a few years now...

Bones wrote:

I typically leave my phone home when I go out for rides, unless I’m 
commuting to work. GR IIIx works well for me.


...I've been wanting to get a Ricoh GR III. Or maybe a IIIx. Hard to decide 
what focal length to commit to but I think probably it makes most sense to 
go with the III to have the option of having a wide lens, but with 24MP 
resolution, having a pretty good amount of leeway to crop.

In years past, there were times when I'd lug around a D-SLR, carrying it in 
a LowePro SLR toploader bag worn as a fanny pack...looking super, super 
cool. Sometimes on a minivelo, just to fully round out how awesome I 
looked. 

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I 
don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to 
carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just 
riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, 
it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple 
times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry 
option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a 
fanny pack.

This all reminds me that I've got an old Fuji X-M1 that could fit in a 
small bag with the 27mm f/2.8 and using that for a while will give me a 
better idea of whether I'd be more happy with a GR IIIx or GR III.

Thanks for starting the thread, Keith. Fun seeing what other folks are 
carrying while riding. 

Chester
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[Chester]

John Rinker wrote:

'Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt." 
-John Muir


Beautiful desert landscape. Don't envy the sun exposure but envious of 
rambling through that without cars around. 

eric...@gmail.com wrote:

Great views, Chester!


Thanks! Enjoyed your last video with the shop tour.

krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

I have always wanted to ride up Montebello Road and explore, when I lived 
in Mountain View, California. Unfortunately, the road was gated and closed 
to the public back in the 1970's.


I was a surprised when, after getting onto the gravel/dirt Monte Bello Road 
through the gate by Vidovich Vineyards, I saw a Monte Bello Open Space 
Preserve sign. I'm not all that familiar with the geography of the ridge of 
the mountains and it never really dawned on me that Monte Bello Preserve 
extends to include Black Mountain and Monte Bello Road, even though I've 
hiked in Monte Bello Preserve up to the "Black Mountain Backpack Camp," and 
have walked down a stretch of Monte Bello Road toward Page Mill.

On my ride up Monte Bello from Stevens Creek Reservoir, it was dusky by the 
time I got to the top. So ditched my plan to ride on northwest to Page Mill 
and down to Foothill Expressway, and just turned around and came back the 
way I came. Will try to do it as a bigger loop, next time.

Chester 
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

Nick Payne wrote:

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:

Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I 
don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to 
carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just 
riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, 
it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple 
times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry 
option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a 
fanny pack.


For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar 
bags for several years. 


That looks really really practical. I need to do a deep dive into getting a 
new handlebar bag. Would like a bigger one and one with a quick release so 
it's less fiddly to not leave my bag behind when stopping somewhere while 
riding around town. Using mustache handlebars complicates things a little, 
but deciding to go with pink accents even more so.

Think for larger cameras with interchangeable lenses, even if a relatively 
small one with a not-big lens, is gonna be best carried in a bigger 
handelbar bag. Using a shoulder strap with a stabilizer strap works well 
too, but I just don't want the weight on me, even if it's not all that 
much. 

So far, for the RX100, a stem pouch has been pretty good, and I've stuck a 
folded innertube at the bottom of the bag to raise the floor and make it 
easier to get the camera out while pedaling. But this definitely won't take 
an MILC, unless it's an especially small body and especially flat pancake 
lens.

Another camera that I wish I had to try out for carrying while riding is a 
Panasonic LX100. Pretty compact all-in-one with a 24-75mm (equiv) zoom and 
m43 sensor. 

Chester
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

Chris Halasz wrote:

Apologies for topic shift to Straw Helmet Sunshade and Cover* 

Andrew 

The helmet cover is made by Bike Pretty 
<https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/20/1251561467/biking-knee-pain-longevity-arthritis>.
 
Advertised for women, I wanted an alternative to wearing a do-rag under my 
helmet, and a Da Brim 
<https://dabrim.com/products/cycling-classic?variant=28994061467701¤cy=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2020-12-05&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwr7ayBhAPEiwA6EIGxAntQgUm18fANI_RyxqaCNU1pM9xcIiXr8_6IZ9eBYstK96iVZR6NhoCvd8QAvD_BwE>
 
around the sides. 


I totally thought it was gonna turn out to be one of the Yakkay 
helmet/cover combos:

Straw Hat Helmet (helmet+cover) (yakkay.com) 
<https://yakkay.com/products/straw-hat-helmet>

Bike Helmet Hats (yakkay.com) <https://yakkay.com/collections/helm-hut>

Chester
SF Bay Area 

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Chester]

kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/1wbpogiix44fmt9b40o6j/APG3fbw3AAQbjYtT-PK3JrY?rlkey=0dkhnviwb33ouz7tkhl45nqqf&dl=0>*

Beautiful, Armand. I love seeing bikes like yours, with so many little 
aesthetic touches totally thought out and dialed in. AND all sorts of 
functional details dialed in. Totally balleur. Congratulations.

Chester 
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

This all got me wondering if one could get a helmet cover/hat in the style 
of, say, a Stetson.

Sort of:

Resistol RideSafe Western Straw Cowboy Hat Helmet | Riding Warehouse 
<https://www.ridingwarehouse.com/Resistol_RideSafe_Western_Straw_Cowboy_Hat_Helmet/descpage-RSHH.html?color=SW>
Photos (shadyrider.com) <https://shadyrider.com/photos>
Equestrian Riding Helmet Brimmer™ - Troxel Helmet – Troxel Helmets 
<https://www.troxelhelmets.com/products/helmet-brimmer>

I don't know anything about the extent to which equestrian helmet standards 
overlap with cycling helmets. And I'm still aspiring to make myself ride 
enough to be more concerned about sun exposure.

Chester
SF Bay Area

On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 7:50:21 AM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I’ve had somewhere around 50 cancers surgically removed. One melanoma and 
> the rest basal cells. I’m of Irish ancestry but grew up and still live in 
> SoCal. My skin type doesn’t belong here for sure. I basically stopped 
> wearing a helmet and wear wide brimmed hats when I ride. I also wear sun 
> shirts to cover my upper body. For the riding I do a sun hat is better 
> protection than a helmet would be.
>
> For rides where a helmet makes sense I wear a skull cap underneath and 
> apply sunscreen. I do try and avoid the 10-2 timeframe but that isn’t 
> always an option.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 23, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Sarah Carlson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thank you for bringing this up! I have had only baby chonks chopped out by 
> my dermatologist but I recently had a friend pass away from skin cancer. I 
> just bought Da Brim in a festive pastel ribbon look. While it feels a bit 
> derpy, it is preferable to the alternative. 
>
> I feel like the Bike Pretty could go well on an elegant Platypus picnic 
> ride. 
>
> I'm waiting for pictures to show up on Leah's "Fashion on the bike" thread!
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Apologies for topic shift to Straw Helmet Sunshade and Cover* 
>>
>> Andrew 
>>
>> The helmet cover is made by Bike Pretty 
>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/20/1251561467/biking-knee-pain-longevity-arthritis>.
>>  
>> Advertised for women, I wanted an alternative to wearing a do-rag under my 
>> helmet, and a Da Brim 
>> <https://dabrim.com/products/cycling-classic?variant=28994061467701¤cy=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2020-12-05&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwr7ayBhAPEiwA6EIGxAntQgUm18fANI_RyxqaCNU1pM9xcIiXr8_6IZ9eBYstK96iVZR6NhoCvd8QAvD_BwE>
>>  
>> around the sides. 
>>
>> The full cover is at the bequest of my dermatologist, who's provided me a 
>> weight loss effort this past year removing chunks from my ear, arm, hand, 
>> and foot. Too much swimming, surfing, fly fishing, and I suppose cycling in 
>> the Colorado, Idaho, Arizona, and California sun for too many years. An old 
>> surfer friend of mine had skin cancer in his scalp, and I really don't want 
>> to experience that. I look for sun coverage in anything I put on my head, 
>> and I pretty much always wear a full brim hat whenever I go outsider now. I 
>> cringe a little when I see trendy shaved heads under massively vented 
>> helmets, either at the amounts of sun the wearer is receiving, or at the 
>> amounts of sunscreen they are applying to their scalps. 
>>
>> The Bike Pretty cover is made for a particular type helmet that did not 
>> interest me, but their advertising stated the size XL cover may fit various 
>> other helmets. 
>>
>> Here is the Bike Pretty XL on a size medium Specialized Align II helmet: 
>>
>> [image: BP-N.jpeg]
>>
>> And the same on my size XL cover on a size L/XL Specialized Align II 
>> helmet, with festive black ribbon removed: 
>>
>> [image: BP-front.jpeg]
>>
>> And from a rear perspective you can see how the tailfin of the helmet 
>> profile protrudes a bit into the straw weave: 
>>
>> [image: BP-rear.jpeg]
>>
>> The cover fits without issue on the size medium helmet, but was a close 
>> fit on the size L/XL, so I fastened first from the front of the elastic 
>> band to the helmet with some black thread: 
>>
>> [image: BP-fstitch.jpeg]
>>
>> And then my wife stitched this much nicer hemp thread detail to the rear 
>> to keep the thing from flying off in the breeze: 
>>
>> [image: BP-rstitch.jpeg]
>>
>> The cover weave breathes so much nicer that a do-rag or hat worn under 
>> the helmet, and provides ample 

[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

[Chester]

Brian,

Congratulations! Champagne version of the pedals is perfect to complement 
Sergio Green.

And looks like the perfect bike to do something like go up the Wiggle, 
through the park--hitting the hidden dirt trails--and end up at the beach.

Chester
SF Bay Area

On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 6:56:06 PM UTC-7 BrianT wrote:

Hi Everyone!

I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help me 
decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 

Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
Couldn't be happier!

Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 

Build overview:

   - Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
   - Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver pedals, 
   but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with the 
   champagne color. 
   - IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
   - Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. I 
   haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm spinning 
   out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.
   - B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
   evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
   - Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and the 
   new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
   gorgeous... thank you Rich!
   - I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the 
   clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
   commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
   complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
   noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, and 
   he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
   now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
   very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
   looking for!

After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San Francisco 
I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in Golden Gate 
Park. Two thumbs up so far!

Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
conversations.

B




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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

John wrote:

I've been enjoying the Outer Shell camera strap (bought off forum member 
Mike last month!) to lug my new-to-me Fuji X-T1 around. 


Here's another option for anyone interested:

Rider Strap: Adventure Camera Strap — PS Bagworks 
<https://www.psbagworks.com/shop/riderstrap>

Cool thing is that this one comes in several versions: with traditional 
split ring attachment, OP/TECH clip, or Peak Designs. Good and bad of it is 
that the attachment receivers are stitched in. Personally, I use Peak 
Design stuff so I like the fact that it's stitch-finished instead of being 
interchangeable but needing a slide to secure the receivers.

Also has a magnetic buckle at the chest for the stabilizer strap.

Chester
SF Bay Area 

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Re: [RBW] Roadini - Seatpost Bolt/Nut (need to replace)

[Chester]

Jay wrote:

That’s right.  M6, 22mm, thread pitch 1.  Nylon insert hex lock nut.


With the Clem L I bought, there was a weird defect in the hex nut, with it 
having extra metal material inside the donut hole, ruining/covering up some 
of the threads, and this ruined the initial threads of the bolt, as well, 
so there was no way to tighten the seat clamp with the bolt/nut pair it 
came with. 

Sorted it out after a couple trips to the local Ace Hardware and their 
Drawers o' Fasteners. They didn't have quite the right length (I had to get 
longer) so I didn't note the length of what I got, but ended up with M6 and 
thread pitch of 1 as well.

Turns out that the Clem Complete page specifies "It uses standard hardware 
store bolt (M6 x 22) and a 10mm hex nut." The Roadini page suggests that 
one could use M5 as well.

I ride the Clem sometimes and have been meaning to try to find a 
countersunk washer that is small enough diameter to fit inside but is yet 
tall enough that I could use a quick release and not scratch up the paint 
of the seat binder.

Chester
SF Bay Area

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[RBW] Re: Replacing Albastache with Losco

[Chester]

J Schwartz wrote:

Currently built up with Albastache bars on a very short stem ...this Crust 
stem 
<https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-x-crust-bj-stem> 
with only 25mm on extension.  


Sorry, below is off topic, but good luck on getting things dialed in with a 
Losco.

This all reminded me of coming across a picture of one of the Wright 
Brothers' bicycles that is in the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum:

https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/52387315912af98bcb12fojpg

Saw it in a Reddit thread...

https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/1d8n0ls/original_wright_brothersbuilt_bicycle_1_of_only_5/

...with one of the comments highlighting a couple stems that Analog Cycles 
sells, with some commentary of prevailing geometry at the time the Wrights 
made bikes:

https://analogcycles.com/products/analog-wright-stem

Chester
SF Bay Area
 

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Chester]

Just saw this Facebook Marketplace listing for a:

Roadini
47cm
Silver
San Leandro, CA
$1200

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/525594306466253/

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 7:02:40 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Protovelo / 2015 Appaloosa
> 47cm
> $3200
> Seattle, WA
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-2015-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7758649064.html
>
>
> [image: 2015 Rivendell Joe Appaloosa Size 47 1.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Chester]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 7:52:45 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

On Aug 14, 2024, at 9:44 PM, Chester  wrote:

So I've been riding around with two pocket cameras, which is kind of silly 
but I rationalize it by telling myself that 28mm and 40mm are very 
different focal lengths, and they both fit together in a stem bag.

I like it! I really like those two focal lengths, and the cameras being so 
small makes it perfectly reasonable to carry them both. 


Thank you very, very much, Ted, for providing the expert testimony that I 
shall submit to my wife if she questions the necessity of keeping both. 
 

Definitely want to keep the LCD screens separated. 


I've added aftermarket screen protectors so I'm not worried about the 
actual screen being scratched, but the idea of the backs directly up 
against each other is still disconcerting, and it's not like I don't care 
about the screen protectors getting scratched, so do want to figure out a 
really nice way to keep them separated.
 

You should be able to find some small fleece sacks that are close to the 
right size. Or just cut a piece from an old t-shirt the right size to do a 
burrito wrap around one of them.


Having them wrapped/pouched inside the bag definitely works. Ricoh has an 
official leather sleeve that's great for protection with minimal added 
bulk. But the problem with wrapping them or even having them in a slipcase 
sort of thing is that this would make it harder to pull the camera out on 
the fly and shoot, while riding, with one hand. So I want them to be 
"loose" in the stem bag, but just have something in between them.

Having something just floating in between works okay, but it's not perfect, 
since it'll shift and can make "re-holstering" a camera a little bit fussy. 

I'm going to first try to see if I can find the right combination of the 
something like the above: acrylic sign holder or shelf divider with a 
circular base of optimal diameter and divider of the right width to 
freestand right in the middle of the bag. 

[image: 2024-08-16 14_12_05-Amazon.com_ UNIQOOO 3_ Clear Acrylic Round 
Stand _ 3mm Slot Wedding Sign Holders.png]
I'm sure I could go to a Tap Plastics and get something made, but if I go 
to that trouble/expense, then might as well just find a custom bag maker to 
make something that'd be perfect...and match handlebar/saddle bags.

Chester
SF Bay Area 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Rivendell Roadini 50cm - $1000

[Chester]

I'm the new owner and got the Roadini yesterday. Assembled it last night 
and took it for a very short spin just now.

I want to say thanks to Ed for being an almost ridiculous paragon of 
awesome throughout the whole deal. I had written him an e-mail just in case 
"sale on hold pending discussions" meant that a sale to someone else was 
not going to go through. As it turned out, it fell through and Ed wrote me 
back to ask me if I was still interested. Yup!

I didn't really have questions, but was chatty, and Ed was indulging about 
that and very generous and thoughtful about giving me notes on things he 
thought I ought to know or anticipate, such as the stem maybe being too 
short. He also generously instructed me to pay with Paypal Goods and 
Services, which would offer some buyer protection, but given how public and 
profuse his profile is on this group and on the Internet, I felt totally 
comfortable paying him Friends and Family and saving him from paying a vig 
to Paypal. 

I sent payment in the middle of the night and Ed still had the bike dropped 
off for shipment to me the next day. I received it two days later and I 
want to share some pictures of his packing job, which was simply 
breathtaking. You may think that a bicycle packing job is mundane and 
cannot be breathtaking, but if you think that, you're wrong:

https://imgur.com/a/NZUIGJU

I feel like I swaddled my children when they were babies with less care and 
certainly less diligence.

Thanks for everything, Ed! 
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 11:23:54 AM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Bike is sold and on its way to its new owner.
>
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Sale on hold pending discussions.
>>
>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I love everything about this bike. The crankset is beautiful. And such a 
>>> killer price. I want to buy it just because but I really can't get another 
>>> bike right now. Someone is going to be really happy with this.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 Bought new from the first batch of Roadinis, ridden a few hundred 
 miles. Frame is in good condition with a handful of scratches but no 
 dents. 
 Wheelset was built by Rich (Hands on Wheels). Note this frame version uses 
 the mid-reach brakes and has a max tire width of ~35mm without fenders. 
 PBH 
 range is 77cm - 83cm.

 Build List


- Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6800
- Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore M591
- Cassette: Shimano (?) 11-34
- Chain: KMC X.9
- Crankset: Velo Orange Grand Cru 46/30 50.4 BCD
- Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-55 BB
- Stem: Nitto Technomic 50mm
- Headset: 
- Handlebar: Nitto Noodle 46cm
- Shifter: Silver1 Downtube Shifters
- Brakes: Shimano BR-R451 w/ Ultegra Brake Holders and Pads
- Brake Levers: Shimano BL-R400
- Seatpost: 
- Hubs: Shimano 105 32h/32h
- Rims: Velocity A23 Front/A23 OC Rear
- Spokes: DT Swiss Comp
- Tires: Compass Stampede Pass (700c x 32)
- Skewers: Salsa Flip Off


 $1000 for complete plus shipping via Bikeflights from 90278. Preference 
 is to sell as a complete. Can also do a pickup in the area - South Bay 
 Beach Cities (Torrance/Redondo Beach/El Segundo).

 Photos available here: 
 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GpMiabU5SsESsixwst-TVUdXELEOxO94?usp=sharing

 Rivendell Geometry Chart: 
 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-500-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416

 Contact me off list if you have questions or are interested.

 --Ed C.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Whoosa Getting an Appaloosa? 2023

[Chester]

Just took a look and the Purple is sold out in all sizes. The Lime Olive 
sold out in 57cm, 4 left of 54cm, 5 of 60cm left, and at least 10 of the 
two smaller sizes.

I had been set on buying an Appaloosa until I saw the update that Homers 
are coming soon, too. Even though I bought Ed's Roadini, so the Appaloosa 
would give me more of a different bike. Riding the Clem L I ostensibly 
bought for my wife a lot, I love the ride but think for a townie I'd rather 
have something lighter and with not quite as long a wheelbase. I'd ride it 
on fire trail sort of trail and maybe very non-technical singletrack but 
that's the roughest terrain I'd ride on it and I'm never going to ride with 
real loads or do any touring or bikepacking. 

Decision was easier when I saw the preview pictures of the two colorways. I 
don't mind the shade of Purple but it's not hard to pass up.
On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:17:36 PM UTC-7 brizbarn wrote:

> Good luck to anyone getting one.  I luckily got my 2021 from Golden Pliers 
> in Portland after the rest sold out.  They had a 60cm in stock, probably 
> cause I showed interest in wanting to get one. Being able to see it in real 
> life before buying was nice when you are dropping big bucks on a bike.  I 
> built it up myself with some parts new parts, a few that I had,  and wheels 
> that Golden Pliers built.  Only really have changed the stem to a 
> Periscoppa, and added fenders for the season, the rest is dialed.  I love 
> it and recon anyone buying one will too.  Here it is last October in 
> Olympic National Park, overpacked as usual:
> [image: DSCF8204.jpg]
>
>
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:06:39 PM UTC-7 Keith Weaver wrote:
>
>> Looks like I got mine! All paid for, and order confirmation received. I'm 
>> seeing some have already sold out. 
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:45 AM Keith Weaver  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm hoping to get one, have been planning the build for months now. I 
>>> have a pair of Velo Orange Crazy Bars that I bought for a 90s MTB 
>>> conversion. That MTB had such a short steer tube I couldn't make it work, 
>>> but I kept the bars. We'll see if they work for the Appaloosa. I do have a 
>>> pair of Albatross bars around as a backup. I bought a used pair of Vittoria 
>>> Terreno Dry tires (Thanks, Joe!) that are 47 mm wide as my starter pair. 
>>> Not sure what type of tire I'll end up with, but these look like a decent 
>>> compromise to start.
>>>
>>> It's been a lot of fun acquiring old parts, I'm going with an XTR rear 
>>> derailleur, Dura-ace clamp-on front, XT parallel-push V-brakes. I had Rich 
>>> build up a pair of wheels with a SON dynamo, also my first dynamo bike.
>>>
>>> I'm going for the Limeolive, can't quite get excited about the purple. I 
>>> really wanted mermaid, but oh well.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 7:16 AM Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am shocked thats a hot color honestly. I am not a huge fan and 
 Rivendell is set on making every bike in that color at this point. Then 
 again I am not in the market for a new bike right now so it doesn't affect 
 me. :)

 On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 10:12:49 AM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote:

> *I'd say if you want a purple Joe Appaloosa, pretend it's 2021. *
>
> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 5:26:07 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all — Who's getting an Appaloosa today? What color frame? Are you 
>> building it up or Rivendell? How are you specifying the build? What size 
>> tires? Which bars? 
>>
>> I got mine built up in 2021 and had it built by Mark Abele at Riv. 
>> But within a year I'd replaced the bars, stem, shifters, front wheel, 
>> rear 
>> derailer, front derailer and maybe something else I'm forgetting! It's 
>> been 
>> a great bike. 
>>
>> Best of luck to everyone logging on today, I hope the sale is nice 
>> and relaxed rather than a frantic shootout. Back in 2021 the Platypus 
>> and 
>> Appaloosa frames sold out with lightning speed. It seems things have 
>> calmed 
>> a bit based on the last several frame releases. 
>>
>> Let us know what you're ordering. 
>>
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[RBW] Leo Roadini, Mustachioed & More

[Chester]

Recently bought Ed C's Roadini and have been riding it as much as I can. I 
asked him a few geo questions and he warned me that the stem (5cm) would 
probably be short for me and he's right in that I find riding the tops of 
the Nitto Noodles a little cramped.

As I think about changing stem and/or bars, I end up in a chain reaction of 
additional changes that I think are basically about me wanting to make this 
Roadini more "gravel"-ish than roadish. On one hand, I have been intending 
to build out a Homer when they come in later this summer, but on the other 
hand, I just bought this Roadini, just bought a Clem L for my wife (that I 
ride more than she does), and just stumbled on and bought a Bridgestone 
RB-1 at the end of last year. So I feel like I should not buy more bikes to 
"save money"...and blow it all on new parts.

Anyway, so this is where the somewhat cramped cockpit of what was Ed's 
Roadini takes me. Typing this out to get my thoughts down for myself to 
better sort them out, and also because I do have some questions below, and 
if anyone is kind enough to offer thoughts on what I'm thinking, I'd 
appreciate it.

*Handlebars: Mustache*

I could swap in a longer stem for a better fit but the Noodles are 46cm and 
are narrower than what I'd want. And I almost never ride in the drops or 
hooks of drop bars anyway. So thinking that a Mustache would be pretty 
perfect. What I'm used to on road type geometry and drop bars is a drop bar 
top that is about 4-6cm more forward. So I think the forward curves of the 
Nitto Mustache would be between what I'm used to as drop bar tops and hoods 
positions. 

I looked a lot at other bars and there are some dirt drop sort of bars I'd 
like to try, but they're not 26/25.4 clamp size. 

*Brake Levers: Non-Aero?*

Ed put on aero Shimano levers and these will work fine. I've ridden a 
couple bikes with mustache bars with aero brake levers and it's what I'm 
used to but I'm thinking non-aero levers will make for less compromised 
brake cable routing. But I'm also wondering/worried that this "better" 
cable routing will conflict with using a handlebar bag. I suppose a lot 
depends on exactly where along the front curves the levers are mounted.

*Shifting: Downtube or Bar-Con or Thumbies?*

Current setup is Silver1 levers on the downtube. It's fine and I've come to 
re-acquire appreciation for the zen of shifting less, which came back 
quickly, since I've ridden singlespeed or fixed rigs as townies a lot. But 
I feel like bar-cons are still a nice compromise in being more conveniently 
placed while still not totally optimally placed. And I was thinking about 
thumbies instead, since bar-cons are a bit of a pain when trying to 
trackstand at lights, and thumbies might be really nice to have in natural 
spot when riding with hands on ends of the mustache bars.

And if I'm going to re-do brake cabling I'll probably switch the housing to 
do a different accent color and if I do that then I might as well do 
shifting cables the same too. Or, I might as well do this while also trying 
out a different shift lever position. I've never ridden with bar-cons and 
the last time I used thumbies, it was with above-bar thumbies on a 
Bridgestone MB-5, almost 30 years ago.

I'm think I'm thinking that converting the Silver1's to thumbies mounted 
where they'd be mounted for primary grip position on a townie/fully swept 
back bar makes the most sense, even though the orthodox thing to do is to 
go bar-con (or downtube). I have seen a picture of someone with a mustache 
setup with thumbies...*along the inboard of the forward curves* and that is 
sort of intriguing but looks weird and, somehow, ugly. I think bar-con 
would look nicer than thumbies inside standard end grip position, and 
downtube looks even better, but I can picture it being nice to have rear 
shifting accessible from a grip position, such as when starting off from a 
dead stop at red lights.

*Tires: Wider than 32-35mm? Tubeless?*
*Brake Calipers: Centerpull or Longer Reach?*

Feels like if I'm going to switch handlebars and no matter what will re-do 
brake cabling, then it will also be the time to consider changing the brake 
calipers for more tire clearance. It has mid-reach Shimano BR-R451 which 
its specs say accommodate up to 32mm tires and Ed thinks might take up to 
35mm. I wouldn't even swap out the 32mm Herse Stampede Passes on the bike, 
but am considering swapping tires and calipers if I can go from 32mm to 
40mm or even 38mm.

I don't even know *how much tire clearance the Roadini has*. I did some 
searching and it seems last year's Roadini had clearance increased to 42mm? 
Ed's was I think the 2017 and I haven't found any statement on the frame's 
tire clearance.

I first thought about the Dia-Compe GC610 calipers for clearance and for 
looks but I don't know if I want to fiddle with centerpull cabling. I've 
never ridden with long-reach sidepulls and so I don't know *how much I 
should be concerned abo

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini, Mustachioed & More

[Chester]

That looks cool and your description totally makes sense. It's similar to a 
setup that VO shows to illustrate its Porteur bar:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2196/9775/files/Screen_Shot_2019-11-18_at_8.37.45_PM.png?v=1574127482

This was the thumbies on inside curve of mustache setup I was referring to:

https://static.flickr.com/24/43564690_1e3b848451.jpg?v=0

Intriguing but beyond aesthetics I wonder about clearance for a handlebar 
bag with another pair of cables in the mix in that area.

I had thought about other bars and also using reverse levers on various 
bars. I'm thinking Mustache in particular because I think it will be ideal 
with the short stem I have now and so can avoid needing to buy another 
stem. And since the forward position on the front of the curves is what I 
think would be the preferred (and fastest) position, I feel like the 
conventional placement of levers there makes most sense. 

I'll try dropping PSI down to 40 or below before I try wider tires. I've 
been more in the 55 to 60 range. I *am *concerned about wider being more 
sluggish. I don't have much basis for comparison with wider tires, and only 
with very different geometry. The Clem L with 45mm and various MTBs with 
wider. 

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 5:44:26 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> I have a set of Albastache I wanted to try on either my Franklin bike or 
> the Bombadil and I would set them up the same way I have then set up now 
> with bar end brake levers and thumbshifters mounted just around the inside 
> of the curve. If not there then I'd go DT shifters as my Sun Tour 
> thumbshifters are all 22.2 so I'd have to but some Dia Compe ones likely, 
> as overpriced as they are. There's also the DC stem mounted shifters that 
> are adjustable in cable angle. 
>
> Especially on a road bike I find 33'ish the sweet spot max.  More doesn't 
> add as much as it detracts in steering feel. I ride my 33mm (actual) 
> Schwalbe Marathon Racers at no more than 40psi when I pump them and by the 
> time I go to pump them again they're more like 35-37. That's on the road, I 
> could go lower for worse surfaces.
>
> I find categorizing a bike only leads to the tail wagging the dog syndrome 
> as you end up chasing some elusive image of what the term may or may not 
> mean. All those categorical buzzwords have no Universal meaning other than 
> their spelling of the words. It's just a bike, regardless of the parts on 
> it !   
>
> Here's what I mean for the bar setup. My hands are never near the ends, 
> always at the foremost straight with my thumbs inside the curve. Shifting 
> is a breeze. The brake levers are easy to reach with a pinkie or two 
> fingers. Reversed the levers are easier to activate than the the other way 
> around. I always hated regular mtb levers as I thought they were designed 
> backwards. 
>
> [image: Alba-Franklin56.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini, Mustachioed & More

[Chester]

DavidP wrote:

If switching from drops I'd be tempted to try an Albastache over a 
Mustache. If the stem feels short with a drop bar it's probably about right 
for a 'stache. 


I totally was/am tempted by the Albastache. I'm leaning Mustache because 
the Albastache ends seem to come back maybe 1-2" further back than the 
Mustache ends. And if I do barcon shifting then it'll be good to have more 
rearward clearance for stoplight trackstands. I also think because the stem 
is short for me, it's probably better to have the slightly more drop that 
the Mustache has compared to the Albastache at or near the bar ends. And I 
don't know but I hope that the forward curves will be perfect reach for me 
with a 5cm stem. Should be a little shorter reach than what I'm used to 
when riding hoods on drop bars on bikes with longer stems, and a little 
longer than the tops riding reach I'm used to. *Think* there's a good 
chance it's just about perfect to be the most comfortable and most aero 
position. 

 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

If the bike came with mid-reach Shimano brakes you're unlikely to get 
anything wider than 38mm in clearance no matter what brakes you run.  It's 
also unlikely that centerpull calipers will provide appreciably more 
stopping power than the Shimano dual pivot calipers which already have 
plenty of stopping power, though you might get more a little more tire 
clearance.


I haven't felt any anxiety over stopping power of them. I haven't done any 
fast descents, but I have on another bike with mid-reach Ultregra calipers. 
I don't have any personal reason to worry about long-reach but came across 
threads in which people were bemoaning reduced stopping power specifically 
when going from mid-reach to long-reach or going with long-reach instead of 
centerpull. So that spooked me a little but maybe I should just ignore that.

Thanks so much for the link to the Tumblr page for the 2017 version of the 
Roadini. Sorta jibes with what Ed told me. He said I might be able to get 
35mm in there with the sidepulls. But I guess that text from Grant was 
presuming use of their complete stock build's mid-reach sidepulls? Because 
Ed said he fitted 38mm tires (Panaracer Pasela PT) into this 2017 frame, 
when he had DC-610 calipers in there. He also seemed to feel like there is 
room in the frame for more than 38mm with centerpulls and I read in your 
1000 mile review that you got 40mm in yours. I don't know if I'm 
reading/guessing wrong but it seems that the Roadini's frame clearance 
hasn't changed, but the stock complete brake spec has.

But, in any case, appreciate the confirmation that I need to switch to 
centerpull to get beyond 35mm. I'll just chill out on all the possible 
changes and get Ed's money's worth out of the 32mm Stampede Passes. Wait 
until I wear them out and then try out 35mm and maybe tubeless.

pi...@gmail.com wrote:

If the bike came with mid-reach Shimano brakes you're unlikely to get 
anything wider than 38mm in clearance no matter what brakes you run.  It's 
also unlikely that centerpull calipers will provide appreciably more 
stopping power than the Shimano dual pivot calipers which already have 
plenty of stopping power, though you might get more a little more tire 
clearance.

It's hilarious that you think the South Bay isn't ideal country for 
hillibike riding --- there are lots of combination rides that minimize 
climbing off pavement --- for instance, you could climb Montebello road and 
descend Stevens Canyon fire trail. Or climb Highway 9 and use all the dirt 
connectors from Saratoga gap to Russian Ridge OSP and descend Crazy Pete's 
and Dirt Alpine (or Stevens Canyon).  I wouldn't hesitate to take my 
Roadini to El Corte Madera Creek preserve either --- a little bit of 
walking never killed anyone. I've ridden all over the world and for 
year-round day riding it's really difficult to beat the Bay Area or even 
come close.


What I had in mind when I was thinking of some platonic "ideal" is living 
amidst country gravel roads, and maybe with more gentle rolling terrain. 
Not dogging on what we have here. I've appreciated reading your blog 
entries and I've been working back up to the fitness to explore and ride 
routes and spots you're describing. A Montebello variant is way up the 
list. Frankly, I'm also working my way out of paranoia after giving up 
extended road riding when I became a father.

Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

Albastache are undeniably great bars, but for my (less) money, Soma 3 speed 
2’s are the greatest mustache on the planet.


Looked at those, too. Liked how the center section between the forward 
bends is a bit wider. But still stuck with leaning Nitto because the Soma 
bar ends seem to come back about 10cm further and the Nittos already will 
give me clearance issues with bar-cons...with the short 5cm existing stem.

The Ergon grips you have on with the Dirt Drops are GC1 not GP1, right? 
I've been wondering about how these would feel on a straight

[RBW] A few Swift bags at Sierra.com

[Chester]

A heads-up to anyone who finds this attractive:

https://www.sierra.com/swift-industries~b~41056/

Kestrel handlebar bag in Coyote tan for $60. Anchor hip bag in Black and 
Coyote for $60. And the Vireo hip bag in Dark Green X-Pac for $50.

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Re: [RBW] Re: A few Swift bags at Sierra.com

[Chester]

Glad this was a good deal for a few folks. I ordered one of the black 
Anchor Hip Packs, myself.

Already have a Dakine Hot Laps Stealth and EVOC Hip Pack Pro hip bags and 
the Swift Industries is a nice Goldilocks addition that is between the two 
of those, size-wise. It's very close in main section capacity, compared to 
the EVOC, but it has a much lower profile "regular" belt strap whereas the 
EVOC has a much wider belt that provides enough support for a pack much 
more laden down with a couple of water bottles and/or 1.5L hydration 
bladder. 

The Anchor has come in especially handy since I had to quit using my saddle 
bag (tube + levers + minitool) due to getting a Garmin Varia RCT715 
radar/light/camera, the latter of which's field of view gets obscured by 
the saddle bag. So that stuff goes in my small handlebar bag and I've been 
using the Swift Anchor when riding around town. The 2.5L capacity is pretty 
perfect for a gilet-like vest, phone, and some other odds and ends. And the 
MOLLE straps on either side I've found have perfect spacing to slide 
through the two prongs of a Kryptonite Evolution Mini-9 u-lock. 

The 2.5L Swift Anchor could end up carrying a good deal more than the 3.0L 
EVOC Hip Pack Pro since the Anchor can take on two of Swift's accessory 
bags. And because items like jackets/vests and other larger stuff can be 
strapped in with the "Cargo Flap" with adjustable cinch straps. It's a cool 
flexible and modular design. Also totally low-key and sedate in styling. 
And, again, I really appreciate the low profile webbing belt when carrying 
a light load, when one really shouldn't feel the pack while riding.

Only slight gripe I have is that there should be a loop on the back to clip 
on a light. Not a big deal since I now always have the Varia mounted (and 
before would ride with at least one rear light), but I feel like all 
saddlebags and hip/fanny packs oughta have a rear loop.

Chester
SF Bay Area

Links:

Swift Anchor Hip Pack:
https://builtbyswift.com/shop/anchor-hip-pack/
https://www.sierra.com/swift-industries-anchor-hip-pack~p~2damt/?filterString=swift-industries~b~41056%2F

Dakine Hot Laps Stealth / EVOC Hip Pack Pro:
https://www.dakine.com/collections/bike-backpacks-hydration/products/hot-laps-stealth-bike-waist-bag?variant=33209068912720
https://www.evocusa.com/products/hip-pack-pro-3l

Krytpo Evo Mini-9:
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/products/product-information/current-key/002086.html?type=bicycle

Garmin Varia RCT715
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/721258
On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:27:40 AM UTC-7 freefo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Chester - Thanks for the heads up. Mine arrived the other day, and I can't 
> wait to use it.
>
> --
> Michael Moore, Jr.
> Arcata, California
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:43 AM Drew Saunders  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, Rich, Ryan,
>>
>> Thanks for the kind words. I was wondering if it was worth the review, on 
>> the assumption that this kind of deal wouldn't last, but I just checked and 
>> that bag is still in stock. I think I'll test it out with a camera this 
>> weekend.
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 8:50:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> I've had that Brand V bag since...2012 or so? It is a great bag...but 
>>> the zippers(YKK I think)  aren't working as smoothly as I'd like and there 
>>> is some fraying/unravelling of the fabric around the zipper track. Maybe 
>>> operator error. I suspect maybe some beeswax or even a dry bar of soap 
>>> along the teeth might help things along
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:49:22 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Drew, you just raised the bar (no pun intended) on product reporting! 
>>>> Well done. Nice price on a compact bag that deceptively holds more than it 
>>>> looks like it would.
>>>> The Swift bar bag reminds me a little bit of the old (not waterproof) 
>>>> Riv Brand V handlebar bag shown below. Not wide like the Candybar bag but 
>>>> decent depth and in my experience good capacity. Enjoy your new bag.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>> [image: BrandV bag.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 9:08:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drew: Eloquent and witty report; appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Moore, who now thinks of finding a Swift bar bag to replace 
>>>>> the somewhat intrusive large "gas tank" bag on his Monocog 29er. (I'd 
>>>>> also 
>>>>> consider a Candy Bar bag or clone.)
>>>>>
>>>>

[RBW] Re: Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Chester]

IANAAccountant but the main IRS info page makes this pretty clear, I think:

Understanding Your Form 1099-K | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov) 
<https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k>

It is effective for TY 2023. You'll get issued a 1099K for any "Goods & 
Services" payment through a payment app/processor like PayPal. But not if 
it's Friends & Family, it seems.

They have instructions for noting the cost of the personal item you sold at 
a loss, if that is the case, so that you are offsetting the income with the 
cost and thus not gaining any net income from the sale. (It also clarifies 
that a loss on the sale of a personal item is not deductible, but a gain is 
taxable.)

Seems like a pain if you have a whole bunch of these sales and do your own 
taxes. But not a big deal if you do your own taxes and only make a handful 
of these transactions per year.

I'm pasting the most relevant section below.

Chester
SF Bay Area

If You Sold a Personal Item

You may get a Form 1099-K if you received payments for a personal item you 
sold through a payment app or online marketplace.

A personal item is something you owned for personal use such as a car, 
refrigerator, furniture, stereo, jewelry or silverware, etc.

How you report these payments on your tax return depends on whether you 
sold the item at a loss or a gain. If you sold a mix of personal items at a 
loss and a gain, report them separately.
Personal Items Sold at a Loss

A loss on the sale of a personal item isn't deductible.

If you sold personal items at a loss, you have 2 options to report the loss:
Report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040)

You can report and offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount on Schedule 
1 (Form 1040), Additional Income and Adjustments to Income 
<https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040s1.pdf>PDF.

Example: You receive a Form 1099-K for selling your couch online for $700, 
which is less than you paid for it.

On Schedule 1 (Form 1040):

   - Enter the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part I – Line 
   8z – Other Income: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss, $700"
   - Offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part II – Line 
   24z – Other Adjustments: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss $700"

These 2 entries result in a $0 net effect on your adjusted gross income 
(AGI).
Report on Form 8949

You can also report the loss on Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of 
Capital Assets <https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-8949>, which 
carries to Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses 
<https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-schedule-d-form-1040>.


On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm considering selling a box full of parts I no longer need. In the past 
> I have taken payment via PayPal which was convenient for both the buyer and 
> myself. However, now I believe all 3rd party banking services will be 
> required to issue a 1099k for anything over $600 in a calendar year. I 
> thought this was going into effect last year but I think it wasn't 
> implemented.  I think this year is different. 
>
> How are people dealing with this these days? I am considering only 
> accepting a check for payment, this will obviously slow the process down as 
> I would not ship the product till it clears. 
>
> I understand that you can report to the IRS that you sold said items for a 
> loss but that requires additionally accounting, which I can do but it seems 
> tedious. 
>
> Perhaps, I'm making too big a deal about this?
>
> Anyway, I appreciate any constructive feedback.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>

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Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

[Chester]

Doug Van Cleve wrote:

Hey Ted.

Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you 
the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops.  It's because the main 
hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position 
like drops.  I gather that Albastache was designed mostly to shorten the 
reach...  Also, you can't use upright bar stuff on either of them so a 
flipped Albatross, Billie or Choco would seem to be best.


Soma makes a Moustache bar with a 25.4mm clamp area and 22.0mm grip area so 
you can use MTB grips and brake levers on them:

3-Speed Moustache II Bar - Soma Fabrications 
<https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar>

Soma has two Moustache Bar variants, the first "3-Speed Moustache Bar" 
being more similar to the OG Nitto version, but with the bar ends sweeping 
back a bit more.

3-Speed Moustache Bar - Soma Fabrications 
<https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/3-speed-moustache-bar> 

The second "II" variant of the Soma is the one with the 22.0mm grip area 

It's also different in having a shallower 35mm drop, whereas the first 
variant has a 60mm drop. (Which, in turn, is 10mm deeper than the 50mm drop 
of the Nitto.) This second version is also wider than their first version: 
540mm vs. 505mm.

The Soma Fab Blog: Soma 3-Speed II "Moustache" Handlebars: For mountain 
grips, shifters and brake levers 
<https://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/11/moustache-ii-handlebars-for-mountain.html>

So if someone was thinking of running an Albastache but wanted primary 
position to be in the bar-end grip area, with brakes there, then one could 
consider the Soma Moustache II with flat-bar/MTB levers. Drop won't be as 
super shallow as the Albastache, but only about 10mm less shallow (15mm 
shallower than the OG Nitto). And, of course, with the forward bends a more 
aggressively forward, while the bar ends sweep a little further back.

WhatBars.com has the Nitto and Soma Moustache Bars, and also the Albastache 
so you can see how the top-down profiles of each compare with each other.

Chester
SF Bay Area
 

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 9:18 AM Ted W  wrote:

That's an interesting idea, Doug. I would have never considered flipping 
Albatross bars like that. Another option I've considered is Mustache bars 
with flat bar levers near the back instead of the typical road levers up 
front. It seems to me like those are similar, if narrower, than something 
like the Albatross bar but have a similar (slightly more accentuated) 
curve. And, like flipping the albatross bars, would give a drop instead of 
a rise... I might play with that idea a bit tonight.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 11:36 AM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

Hey Ted.

I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops (and if 
I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse for you.  A 
narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the reach a 
fair bit, I think.  That said, I don't think any of the current super long 
chainstay RBW bikes are really suited for drops.  I just put together a JA 
that came with Albatross' and a Technomic, 9cm I think, and it feels too 
close and too tall in front.  It's a 51cm IIRC, whichever size is 650B, and 
the PBH size chart would have put me one size smaller.  I have a 
Choco-Moose waiting to go on it, I'm hoping that slammed it will give me 
more reach and lower bar height.

Doug

P.S.  You might consider flipped Albatross' as well, less reach and drop 
than any actual drop bar but still some...


On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 7:08 AM Ted W  wrote:

Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it today. 
First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The ride is 
amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; nimble yet 
stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to channel the 
wisdom of the group.

Currently, I have the bike built with drop bars (50cm V/O Randonneur). 
However, I know this frame, like many of the Riv frames, is really built 
with swept back bars in mind. Knowing this, I went with a stem that's about 
half my "typical" length. Unfortunately, it still feels like quite a reach 
to get on the hoods, not impossible, but not "normal". So, this is where my 
question starts:

Do I continue to try shortening the stem, say to maybe 30-40mm, or do I 
give in to my swept bar destiny and spring for some new bars? And if I go 
with sweeps, which bars do people like on the Appa? I have 65mm Tosco bars 
on my Gus and it's wonderful on that bike, but being that I don't want to 
be quite so upright (and there's not quite as much room) on the Appa. I was 
thinking of going with either Billie or Albatross bars. The two are so 
similar, however, that I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. I

Re: [RBW] Cargo/Kid bike recommendations (or bikefriday vs. tern)

[Chester]

Drew,

The Yuba Kombi probably will make more sense in the long term because it's, 
like, a mid-tail cargo bike and when your kid is riding on their own it's 
still useful as a cargo hauler. Also can best serve as both kid and cargo 
interchangeably, during transition period when you want your kid to be able 
to hop onto padded bench seat sometimes, but not so much that you're going 
to keep a full child seat installed.

Smaller wheels do make carrying a kid feel better. I went from riding with 
a kid in a Thule rear rackmount seat on an old 26" Rockhopper and then got 
an Orbea Katu with 20" wheels and the latter rode much nicer with the 
top-heavy load. Even for me but especially for my wife, who isn't so 
confident on a bike, even without a load. 

Orbea unfortunately doesn't sell the Katu in the USA any more. It's a great 
family bike for sub-"cargo" use but is closer to a mid-tail cargo bike 
(with 20" wheels) than most minivelos, with pretty long 
chainstays/wheelbase. Also with geo designed for more upright riding and 
flexible range of rider height. Plenty of heel clearance to ride with a set 
of panniers mounted to an add-on rear rack, and also has an "integrated" 
rack that bolts on to the headtube.

Based on my experience, 20" wheels instead of even 24" wheels I think will 
be appreciably nicer with a load above the rack line, but 24" is at least 
better than 27.5" or 26" in that regard, and if you'll keep it as a cargo 
bike will probably be preferable to 20" at that point.

Chester
SF Bay Area
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:56:26 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:

> Thanks for all the thoughts and feedback. It's unfortunate that there are 
> so few non electric options these days, but helpful to know which older 
> models to keep an eye out for. I did discover that Yuba has a version of 
> the Kombi that isn't electric and about the same price as the Tern. Bike 
> Friday would end up being at least 1000$ more, so I'm leaning toward the 
> Yuba or Kombi. 
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:56:29 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It amuses me that the difference in wheelbase length between my medium 
>> Big Dummy and my medium Gus is only 9”. 
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> You could look for an old Kona MinUte. Kind of a short cargo bike. There 
>> was another model like this, but I can't remember what it was.
>> Eric
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:49 PM Drw  wrote:
>>
>> For the last 4 years I've been carrying my kid and all of our family's 
>>> gear on a rosco bubbe mountain step-thru with crust clydesdale fork. 
>>
>> 
>>> Overall, it's been great, but as he gets bigger, having that amount of 
>>> weight, that high up, plus a decent load up front is starting to feel 
>>> really wiggly. I had early on thought that my son would be riding a bike 
>>> well enough to transition to one of those tag a long attachments like the 
>>> burley piccolo, but he has some sensory issues with balance and gross motor 
>>> that will probably make that not a real possibility before he is big enough 
>>> to just be riding fully on his own. 
>>>
>>> So, I'm looking for a compact cargo bike with the following 
>>> requirements. 
>>> -Non electric
>>> -Footprint no bigger than a standard bike 
>>> -Platform/bench rear seat for kids
>>> -Some front cargo capability
>>> -uses deraillers (though i could be swayed to an IGH)
>>>
>>> Right now I am mostly looking at the bike friday haul-a-day elite 
>>> <https://bikefriday.com/product/bike-friday-haul-a-day-elite-cargo-bike/>and
>>>  
>>> the tern short haul D8 
>>> <https://www.ternbicycles.com/us/bikes/471/short-haul-d8>. Both have 
>>> pros and cons. I am open to any other cool options. And any thoughts about 
>>> the above models would be appreciated as well. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Drew
>>>
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