Re: [RBW] Horses and Donkeys

[DJC]

Leah,

I love donkeys!! That's all I ride, and it's all that I'll ever ride. I 
can't imagine trading comfort, beauty, and practicality for speed.

Long live donkeys, and those that ride them!!!

Best,
Dave

On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 9:36:09 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

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> On Jul 22, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
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> I just got back from northern Michigan’s Ride Around Torch Lake. Best tour 
> I’ve done yet. So fun. So many riders. But again, back to square one with 
> the prejudice when the hordes of stereotypical roadies see me on the tour. 
> I giggled with my sister about some of it on the phone today.
>
>
> My sister said, I always think you’re riding a donkey. You have a donkey. 
> Everyone is riding a horse and Leah brought a donkey! Donkeys are so 
> powerful and you can saddle them with an incredible amount of weight. When 
> you charge up hills, pull liters and liters of water out of your bag AND a 
> change of clothes you know everyone with a horse is looking at you like 
> you’re a loon. They are carrying one little bottle to keep their horses 
> light and you’ve packed down your donkey. Everyone underestimates the 
> donkey. I’m going to change your name in my phone to Donkey.
>
>
> There was one other donkey on the ride. I’ll send pics of both in the next 
> post.
>
>
> Who else loves their donkey?!
>
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: ISO 51 cm Homer or Sam

[DJC]

I have a 2019 Sam Hillborne frameset (Orange) with a few cosmetic 
blemishes. If interested, I'll happily share photos.

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 4:28:17 PM UTC-5 gson...@gmail.com wrote:

> ISO 51 cm Homer or Sam. Pref unused or no marks. 
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Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

[DJC]

I spoke with Vince three or four months ago about the Charlie project and 
he said they have it slotted for a 2024 production run. Hopefully this will 
happen, as I'm definitely interested in one as a daily commuter to 
complement my Clem H. The Clem is my workhorse and heavy hauler, whereas 
the Charlie would be my "fast" commuter.

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 11:11:56 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Been a little while since this thread was updated - in fact, I sold mine 
> around the time of the last post, but recently bought it back from the 
> friend I'd sold it to as I realized my mistake! I rebuilt it similarly to 
> before, but with a few differences such as a B17 vs C17 saddle, triple 
> crankset with early 90's XT, silver fenders.. but the same bars plugged 
> back in without so much as being unwrapped. It's truly ideal for my 
> everyday needs and I was crazy to have sold it in the first place - now the 
> Bombadil can be retired from commuting duties and as such, be reconfigured 
> to focus on adventure and bikepacking. 
>
> I haven't heard much out of Riv on this bike... wonder if it's still on 
> the books?? 
>
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> On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 10:44:40 UTC-8 maxcr wrote:
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>> Thanks Abe, that's super helpful. I'm coming from an analog 0mm extension 
>> (w)right stem and I used (I think) a 100mm Nitto stem near the the minimum 
>> insertion line 
>>
>> Next experiment will be to flip the albatross, I have long arms so maybe 
>> that will work better for me.
>>
>> Max
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
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>>> FYI, after this photos I adjusted the inner bar ends a bit and will 
>>> again as I putz around on it. I have some inner bar ends in the mail too 
>>> which are like the SQLabs model, but these longer (150mm) bar ends are 
>>> pretty cozy so I'll try them both.  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:18:39 PM UTC-8 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Yes, changed stems:
 Soma Portola with 6cm extension Technomic
 Nitto Labarross with 10cm extension Technomic

 Both were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the 
 minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of 
 min 
 insertion line. 

 I’m a heavy guy with long torso and short legs, brooks B17 saddle 
 almost as far back as it will go on a S83 setback seatpost. 

 The Albatross bar setup is the same stem/bar setup I used on my 
 Cheviot. With the inner bar ends I get tons of added forward reach to pull 
 on or lean into, if I didn’t have those I’d probably want at least 11cm of 
 stem extension though. Any less than 10cm extension and I’d worry about 
 knee strikes on the ends of the albatross bars when they’re this low. And 
 I 
 wouldn’t use bar end shifters with the current setup for the Sam reason. 

 My next move is to try swapping the Nexus rd for an XT rapid rise rd 
 with a 13t lower pulley wheel (replacing the 11t original). The Nexus 
 doesn’t take kindly to heavy pedaling pressure uphill in a low gear, it 
 starts to skip. This is probably because I’ve got it way past the max gear 
 size and chain wrap capacities (46/30t crankset, 11-40t cassette). If I 
 was 
 less heavy I suspect it wouldn’t be a problem, but I’m hoping the wider 
 wrap/capacity of the XT rd will eliminate this issue. 

 In the “hoods” (pulling on the inner bar ends) the Charlie is a rocket 
 that pulls my weight off the seat to pedal harder and faster like in the 
 drops or hoods. On the hand grips I’m in “sit up and beg” mode - very tall 
 to see well in traffic and nice for standing up as I pedal uphills, but 
 relaxed enough to putter around town for as long as I could want. The long 
 arm (e.g., normal) v-brakes are just perfect and so strong I can’t imagine 
 ever wishing for disc brakes. What a fun and versatile bike! These should 
 sell out every time, it’s the best Riv I’ve been on (which includes: 
 Cheviot, Sam Hillborne, Saluki, Homer, Gus, Suzie, Rosco Baby). Fast like 
 Homer, strong and versatile like Sam, better braking than any other, 
 swoopy 
 goodness. 

 Abe

 On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:51 PM, maxcr  wrote:

 Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from 
 the Soma Portola to the Albatross?


 Max

 On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my 
> Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my grips 
> yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the 
> angle wasn't working.
>
> Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I have 
> the grips finalized.
>

[RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[DJC]

Hi Chris,

I have both a 52cm Clem H and a 53cm Atlantis (v.3). While they share the 
long wheelbase and relaxed geometry, they're very different bikes. The Clem 
leans heavily toward an mid-80s MTB, but with greater stability and 
comfort. The Atlantis "feels" more nimble and better suited to all-a-round 
riding. I use both for commuting, but I'd choose the Atlantis as my touring 
rig and use the Clem H for off-road adventuring.
Regarding wheels, I built up Velocity Cliffhangers for both bikes.

Cheers,
Dave


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:19:30 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:

> PS: I should have written "piqued my interest", not "peaked...". No excuse 
> for that one
>
> Chris
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:
>
>> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too 
>> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a Rambouillet 
>> and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis (that had been a 
>> wish-list bike for a long time) that I just didn't gel with. I've looked at 
>> Riv's current offerings, and the only one in recent years that peaked my 
>> interest was the Clem H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and 
>> seeing the Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm 
>> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H. It's kind of 
>> got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have to build a set of 
>> wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd probably rob the rest of the 
>> parts to build it off some other bikes, and think about thinning the herd a 
>> bit. I've built quite a fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently 
>> enjoying a bit of a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release 
>> some of them into the wild.
>>
>> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get an 
>> Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>>
>> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger is the 
>> only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others that I've 
>> missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need not apply.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[DJC]

Hi Ray,
The Velo Orange shifter mounts are compatible with Rivendell shifters 
version 2. I've used them on three builds, no issues. I think the mounting 
requirements for both shifters are the same, so the VO mounts should work 
with original silver shifters as well.

Best,
Dave  
On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 11:50:47 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:

> Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie 
> mounts?
> If so, did they work well enough?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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