[RBW] Re: FS: XL custom powdercoated Crust Noreaster Complete

[DamonLee]

That is a thing of beauty! Unfortunately I am not in a position to purchase 
but curious how this fram road with swept back bars? And what is you PBH?
Someone needs to grab this bargain!
On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 3:31:48 AM UTC+11 andyree...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey group, I'm looking to sell my Noreaster complete bike. All parts 
> except for some of the drivetrain components have ~100 miles on them so 
> it's all still quite new. Photos can be found here: 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvA4uH1sioVBoKW46 
>
> General breakdown: 
> Crust Noreaster frameset size XL custom powder coated chestnut brown w/ 
> patina'd brass accents throughout 
>
> Crust 700c dynamo wheelset (I had the frame resized to 130 rear but it can 
> easily be moved back if that's your thing) w/ Ultegra skewers / lightweight 
> 8 speed cassette 11-30 or 28, I can't remember. 
>
> RH Antelope Hill 55mm extra light tires (tan) 
>
> Nitto S83 post, dirt drop stem, Albatross bars, Campee front rack 
>
> Paul Pewter touring cantis w/ matching levers + gold moon units 
>
> Shimano 600 headset w/ patina'd steel cable hangers / stack spacer 
>
> All-polished Carmina triple crankset 46-36-26, some pretty dramatic heal 
> rub on both crank arms from the previous owner. 
>
> Spank Oozy black pedals 
>
> Ultegra / Suntour derailleurs 
>
> Dura Ace 8 speed indexed downtube shifters 
>
> Selle Anatomica R2 saddle 
>
> Lezyne frame pump 
>
> AND a used-once Large Fabs Chest saddle bag (waxed brown + green canvas) 
>
> ---
>
> This bike rides amazing but I flew a little too close to the sun with the 
> build
>
> Asking price is $1900 + shipping 
>
> Cheers! 
> Andrew - Brentwood, TN
>

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[RBW] Re: Last Minute Japan Tips!

[DamonLee]

Hakone! I can second that. It is wonderful up there. The special train you 
take up there. The museum. A wonderful place to visit.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 11:25:34 AM UTC+10 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Minh,
>
> Well, lucky you! Japan is a real treat in so many ways, and it is a very 
> lovely country in which to cycle. Where will you be going and how long will 
> you be in Japan? Will you have your bicycle with you?
>
> If you can get to Kyoto then I'd suggest a late-night cycle tour through 
> the Gion district. In addition, an early morning cycle tour of the 'Five 
> Mountains'- the five main Buddhist temples of Kyoto- was something I very 
> much enjoyed doing.
>
> If you get to Kyushu, and find yourself in Kagoshima, there's a really 
> great ride around Sakurajima- a very active volcano a short ferry away.
>
> There's a million things around Tokyo (not helpful, I know), but you'll be 
> there at a very beautiful time of year weatherwise. Hakone is a cool 
> day-trip where you can hike, enjoy a beautiful outdoor sculpture museum and 
> indoor Picasso exhibit, and dine at the Gora Brewery- a Nobu restaurant.
>
> As you may have read in Will K's musings on Tokyo, it is a wonderful city 
> in which to ride a bicycle.
>
> Enjoy! John
>
> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 2:23:35 PM UTC-7 Minh wrote:
>
>> Reading Grant's recent blog post about visiting Nitto reminded me that 
>> i'm heading to Japan next week!   
>>
>> Any last minute tips anyone would like to suggest, i already have a visit 
>> to Blue Lug--need to pick up a few things that would be too expensive with 
>> shipping!  
>>
>> I was hoping to make it to Circles in Nagoya, but didn't work out with 
>> our schedule.  Happy to take any and all suggestions!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Clem Smith Jr L Frameset

[DamonLee]

I believe they will be in stock in the coming month(s?) - a batch is en 
route according the last email

On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:49:47 AM UTC+11 Wesley wrote:

> I meant to say "mismatched fork", not for.
> -W
> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 5:48:52 PM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Hi Graham,
>> I have been waiting for the same frame as you for a long time, and there 
>> are none that I know of available. BUT!
>> 1. Rivendell will have them back in stock in a few weeks
>> 2. I saw a few in photos from the garage sale (mismatched for and/or 
>> blemished frames). If you're local to the Bay Area, you might call to see 
>> whether one of those remains.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:32:07 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All, 
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a Frame/fork Clem Smith Jr L in size 64/65, also would 
>>> interested in a 59. PBH is 90.1
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Graham
>>>
>>

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[RBW] 60cm Appaloosa Standover

[DamonLee]

Wondering if someone could measure the standover height on their 60cm 
Appaloosa?
(also knowing what tire size you are running would be great too!)
Thank you in advance!

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikers - do you stand and pedal?

[DamonLee]

Hi David, what stem are your rocking there? Is it a quill stem or an 
adapter + stem combo? Any photos would be great - your platy looks so at 
home in the woods there!

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:14:19 PM UTC+11 DavidP wrote:

> I'm in the same boat as Tom - sized up on a  60cm Platy. Mine has a 120mm 
> stem and 650mm Toscos and I love the huge fore-aft position range they give 
> me (from 75-45 degrees back angle, or even lower depending on how much I 
> bend my arms). I can stand and pedal holding the bars back at the grips or 
> further up at the "ramps" and find myself doing both. I will grip the flats 
> of the Tosco when I want to be less upright on the open road but prefer a 
> wider grip for standing climbing.
>
> My Platypus looks pretty long but that may just be the proportions of the 
> fit:
> [image: R001-002U8A3910_platy-1080.jpg]
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 9:06:57 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> [image: Clementine2344.jpg]
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts so far everyone! 
>>
>> Tom - Here is a pic of my setup. Im trying not to fiddle with the build 
>> too much at this point. 
>>
>> Garth - I actually really like this bike and find it extremely 
>> comfortable, just a different style of riding. I tend to sit and climb on 
>> most of my bikes I've owned. I was just curious because the arrangement is 
>> considerably different than a traditional geometry bike and riding style. 
>>
>> Kim - I find it similar. Especially fast descending feels great standing. 
>> Eventually I sit back down and spin away. haha 
>>
>> I do find Loscos a bit more ergonomic for an aggressive forward position 
>> with a lesser bend and have considered trying a swap - but the bar end 
>> shifter always makes me put it off. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:41:07 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, I guess I could grab the low flats up front on the Bosco for 
>>> standing, I hadn't thought of that. It would be similar to a flatbar 
>>> mountain bike. I'll try it! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 That's pretty aggressive Garth, I don't think Mackenzy signed up for 
 being confronted. 

 To answer the question the thread is about: I use Boscos on my custom 
 and sit bolt upright and love it. I don't stand, I spin, cuz that's my jam.

 Joe Bernard 

 On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 4:52:17 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Since you already know that the Bosco doesn't work for you with your 
> Clementine, why haven't you changed the bars and stem to allow for more 
> effective reach and use of the steering aixs? I wouldn't touch a Bosco 
> with 
> a ten foot pole either for the very reason you stated. I bought a Tosco 
> and 
> simply in my hands my only  thought was "what the heck was I thinking ?" 
> The only swept back bar I can take is a 56cm steel Albatross and that's 
> with a 130mm stem on frames that have longer than average top tubes and 
> frame reach. I ride them stretched out and even or just above the saddle. 
>  
> To me an "upright posture" for bike riding is very unnatural. Don't let a 
> builder/seller's idea-l bar prevent you from finding your won. They're 
> not 
> you. There's endless bar shapes so you're bound to find the right combo 
> for 
> you. 
>


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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Essentials: On Finding Goldilocks

[DamonLee]

Hi John, thanks for the lists. I was going to ask in the other thread but 
seems better to do it here: What rack do you use for the 139 Wald? Do you 
know roughly how much weight goes in there?
Thanks,
Damo

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:44:31 AM UTC+11 John Rinker wrote:

> Moving this over from Johnny's 'Fitting the Hunqapillar' thread and in 
> response to Jay's inquiry about my essential packing list for touring. 
>
> Of course, some of it depends on the nature of the tour itself: climate, 
> remoteness, and goals for the trip. For example, on the Great Divide, I 
> packed my tenkara rod and for the Cabo loop, I swapped it out for a mask 
> and snorkel. When I rode the Annapurna Circuit I didn't pack shelter or 
> kitchen as I stayed in tea houses and ate dahl bat. 
>
> As examples, here are packing lists from the two very different trips 
> mentioned above. 
>
> The Great Divide (2018) 
> 
>
> The Cabo Loo (2023) 
> 
>
> Sadly, the photos are the same, but the Cabo Loop list is more 
> representative of what I've learned that I'd rather not be without on any 
> journey. 
>
> The clothing in the Great Divide list was basically cut in half before I 
> left- where there are 2s, I kept 1. I did retain both pairs of sandals- a 
> small luxury after a long day in the saddle. Neither did I end up carrying 
> so many water bottles, and I have since swapped out the MSR gravity filter 
> for a Steri-Pen UV filter. 
>
> Didn't take my full spice kit on the Baja Divide because I'd planned to 
> live on fish tacos the whole time (very tricky in the mountains!). I no 
> longer take the Nikon as my iPhone 8 takes fine snaps, I leave the Garmin 
> GPS as I use GaiaGPS on my device, and I've swapped out my tripod stool for 
> a lighter Japanese folding stool. 
>
> I love my Big Agnes CopperSpur tent but wanted to spend some time getting 
> good at setting up my Mountain Laurel Designs Trailstar tarp in the deep 
> sand of Cabo where tent stakes are useless. 
>
> As far as essentials, hmm? My Marmot sleeping bag, a water bottle, my tool 
> roll, down jacket, wool undies, bandanas, rain gear, and camp slops.
>
> Anyways, that's my thinking on packing on wilderness-focused tours. 
>
> I'd love to hear what you've gleaned from your experience and what you 
> consider your essentials when heading into the mountains.
>
> Cheers, John
>

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Re: [RBW] Clem for All Surfaces

[DamonLee]

I want a clem for this purpose, a true all rounder. I have a fendered bike 
with 40mm tires, boscos, basket, and a rigid MTB with 29x2.6 inche tires. A 
clem would be a sweet spot with 2.2's and fenders and basket. Enough 
cushion for the type of bush bashing I do. But fine on any surface. 

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 8:47:01 AM UTC+11 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yup! Just finished a very “chill” 40 mile road route. Average speed was 
> just over 12mph according to my phone app. It was a fair effort but nothing 
> really hard. It was not that long ago that I would do similar rides on my 
> road bike. In those days I might have averaged 17-18mph, but then I would 
> have been really trying. So not only do I agree the Clem is a suitable road 
> bike - I don’t think it is that much slower. If it is, it just does not 
> matter. I am too comfortable & having too much fun to care.:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> I thought on buying my Clem that long road rides wouldn't suit it but I 
> was wrong. Long AND fast? Well, I'm not a fast rider so don't know if both 
> can be achieved on a Clem but long road rides have become a staple in my 
> routine on my Clem. Last weekend I set out from the end of my driveway to 
> ride without a distance or direction in mind and ended up riding 45 miles 
> (photo from that ride below). At the end of that ride I was tired but had 
> no shoulder or back pain which I always did with dedicated "road bikes".  
> My Clem truly is my one bike for everything.
> Doug
>
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:04:50 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My Clem has easily obsoleted the full suspension as my go-to trail bike. 
>> Far more capable & fun on singletrack than I could have ever imagined. As 
>> in: this is a real, no joke mountain bike in 2023 on real 2023 mountain 
>> bike trails. Would I enjoy it on the really burly trails in Pisgah? 
>> Probably not as much, but for any sort of East Tennessee XC riding it has 
>> excelled. That alone would be impressive, but of course the beauty of the 
>> Clem is that I can use it for anything else short of a long/fast road ride. 
>> Oh, and the whole build was barely more than $2k...
>>
>> 64cm; 92ish PBH
>> Mezcals 2.6F, 2.25R (the 2.6 also barely fits in the rear - a 2.4 would 
>> be perfect)
>> Soma Osprey Bars
>> 1x7 with the 42t Jim Cassette & a clutch derailer (necessary if things 
>> get chunky with that long chain...)
>> kickstand & rack stay on :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:34:54 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I could not agree more. I have been enjoying mixed surface rides more 
>>> often than not since getting the Clem 14 months ago. It’s always been fun 
>>> off road but the 55mm Simworks Homage tires have taken it up a notch. 
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 4:45 PM, DavidP  wrote:
>>>
>>> I find mixed surface rides to be so satisfying that almost all of my 
>>> bikes end up being setup for them to one degree or another. The majority of 
>>> Riv models are capable of them too. I built my Platypus with these types of 
>>> rides in mind - with 55mm front and 50mm rear tires and wide Tosco bars. 
>>> Looking forward to seeing more photos of Clems on dirt in this thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 4:33:28 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 It's by no means a Clem, nor is it even a Rivendell, tho' a Rivendell 
 custom was its model, but this does very well on firm crusher fine acequia 
 Conservancy District roads and on impromptu unmaintained dirt shortcuts 
 between paved sections. 

 Rene Herse Extralight Naches Pass 559X42 cm at ~35/30 or 35/40 
 depending on load.

 [image: image.png]

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:32 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> I rode my Clem for a mile or so on single-track this weekend and I 
> have no complaints. Even with my narrow tires (Grand Bois Hetre 42 mm) I 
> had good results. If I were to intend on a longer ride I would install 
> wider tires and lower the pressure but I was doing mostly a road ride and 
> the single-track was an unplanned excursion. It is nice to be on a bike 
> that can handle most surfaces. The same ride included asphalt, gravel and 
> dirt! Anyone else do off-road riding on a Clem?
> Doug
> [image: image0.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[DamonLee]

I thought the same thing Leah, it looks soft but not grippy therefore 
requiring downwards force to hold it. The swagman looks good as it doesn't 
rely on clamping the tops of the wheels in any capacity.
The deformation on the tires in jacobs photo makes me think I'd never want 
to put that kind of pressure on a fender.

Damon
On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 6:51:28 AM UTC+11 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> I am following this thread with interest. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike 
> rack, but that company seems to be lessening their quality and maybe even 
> phasing out this rack. They have a new modular system they seem to want you 
> to buy, and it isn’t going to play nice with mixtes with fenders. 
>
> Now, I have heard so much good about the 1Up rack, but honestly HOW is 
> that fender cushion gonna work? Won’t it just mash my metal fenders? Push 
> them out of shape? Mess up the alignment? Maybe someone with a fendered 
> mixte wouldn’t mind posting it on their 1Up rack? 
> Leah
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Toshi,
>>
>> Occasionally, you can find the Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a 
>> claw on Craigslist:
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bop/d/bellevue-yakima-lockjaw-upright-roof/7587045203.html
>>
>> I have the Yakima Raptor roof rack with two trays. I recently modified 
>> two trays into one for my 80" Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. One day, I will not 
>> be able to lift my bike over my head onto the tray. For now, it works. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 9:15:11 AM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jacob—it looks like the rear wheel bar on the 1up would crunch on my 
>>> full coverage rear fender. What do you think?
>>>
>>> I use a Yakima roof rack with Raptor bars with a claw for my wife’s 
>>> Betty, but those racks don’t seem to be sold anymore.
>>>
>>> Another alternative is a trunk rack with a top tube adapter for step 
>>> throughs/mixtes.
>>>
>>> I bought a bar but have never needed to use it yet. Has anyone had any 
>>> luck with those?
>>>
>>> Toshi in Oakland 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>>
 I’ve got a 1up and a Thule t2. The Thule would not work with fenders. 
 My 1pu is the single bike option and does a great job. Here’s a pic with 
 an 
 xl Gus. Road solid for about 50 miles of interstate and country roads. 

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 -Jacob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:

 

 If I had to do it all over, I’d definitely go with a 1up rack. My Küat 
 NV2.0 is great, and I’m fine with how it works with fenders and racks… but 
 I feel like a 1up would be more secure in those cases. Also, my Medium Gus 
 at 50” wheelbase is the absolute maximum length the Küat will handle.

 On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:05 AM, JAS  wrote:

 The 1Up rack has worked really well for me too.  It's spendy, but well 
 made and has worked well with my Clem, Platypus and Bike Friday (all have 
 fenders).

 Joyce

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:38:15 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> We love our 1UP rack and it works pretty well with fenders.
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:24:08 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
>> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
>> fenders.  
>> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through. 
>>  
>> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
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[RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[DamonLee]

Hello, curious about your height and PBH given the saddle hieght displayed 
here, is this a 59cm frame? great set up btw!
Damon

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:38:35 AM UTC+11 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's another example from a mate who put me on to Clem L and is the 
> top-ranking Clem L enjoyer in Los Angeles.
>
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:08:18 AM UTC-8 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> As much as I think rackless systems are neato, and it's easy to run 
>> pannier free with the many bag manufacturers now in fair weather and s240 
>> style camping. I absolutely love the look of low rider racks and good set 
>> of panniers which are great except for lots of bumpy roads and narrow 
>> single track. 
>>
>> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's how I loaded my Clem L for seven or so days on the road (OAK - 
>>> SLO, very slow). I regret not having a rack for panniers; it was a pain 
>>> digging around and packing the Nelson longflaps with not enough room for my 
>>> gear. Having more bags would have helped spreading items out for easy 
>>> access and packing. In any case, Clem L handles really well while carrying 
>>> gear and feels acceptably "fast" for multi day touring.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:56:36 AM UTC-8 meti...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I certainly plan to pack my new Clem L for camping! 

 Long ago I spent weeks in Europe (on several different trips) on a 
 packed-out Motobecane Grand Touring bike with skinny little tires. I added 
 a temporary Blackburn rear rack, slapped some panniers on it, threw some 
 sort of front-bar bag on the handlebars, and despite tons of flats (we 
 eventually stuck to the roads rather than gravel trails), the bike did 
 fine 
 and we had a blast. I’m sure it wasn’t pretty, but it was wonderful, and 
 now I can flip a bike over and whip out a tube change like nobody’s 
 business. 

 (I’ve traveled a number of the Adventure Cycling Association routes the 
 same way, too, Jeff, and it was so much fun to see how other bicyclists 
 handled their gear. We can complicate the most simple experiences, and I 
 want to be more like those easy travelers…they make me laugh)

 Anything will work, if you let it. :) Have fun on your bike-camping 
 trips.

 Liz


 On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:53:35 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> I agree with John G: pretty much any bike can be used for 
> cyclotouring/bikepacking.  I don't have a Clem (I have a Rambouillet), 
> but 
> Grant designs framesets with strength and reliability in mind.  It is 
> steel, so absolutely, it should be fine.
>
> If you ever have a chance to visit Adventure Cycling Association's 
> (ACA) HQ in Missoula, MT, you can see many of the original rigs that were 
> used.  Absolutely fascinating.  They just took what was available and 
> invented solutions.  Those folks were animals, too: you gotta check out 
> the 
> tall gearing they had.  At the same time, they were young and in the 
> prime 
> of their lives.
>
> Fast forward to 2022: there are so many gadgets now to enable one to 
> attach something to your frame and fork.  Check out Bikepacking.com 
>  for a complete rundown.  They have a 
> wealth of information.  Be careful though: it is a true rabbit hole.  
> It's 
> like going to REI.  You just keep buying stuff!  
>
> In 2017 we used (because they were one of the first to market) King 
> Cage USBs (Universal Support Bolts).  Extremely handy and strong.  We 
> used 
> sets of them to support King Cage Manything Cages on our forks for the 
> Great Divide.  They were truly tested: because we could be cycling 
> through 
> areas with no water sources for our water purifier, we carried 3-liter 
> containers of water.  Note: there are now several solutions out there in 
> addition to the King Cage USB.
>
> Enjoy and have fun!
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA 
>
> P.S.: Voile straps are your friend!!
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:47:22 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having 
>> no 
>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed 
>> as 
>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
>> might be doing?
>
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[RBW] 64cm Clem "Reach"

[DamonLee]

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone who owns a 64cm Clem L could attempt to provide a 
reach measurement of this size?
I appreciate Riv showing geometry charts as of late, but they are yet to do 
that for the Clem L model

Thanks in Advance

DTL

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