[RBW] Re: FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

[Derek Atkins]

Everything pending except the wheelset and brake levers. Getting back to PMs 
now. 

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[RBW] Touch-up paint for blue Joes?

[Derek Atkins]

Anyone know of a good approach to obtaining and applying touch-up paint for 
the old blue Joe Appaloosas? Pic included for color illustration.
I had a small paint crack I had to file down on my seat lug and I'd like to 
fix it up.



Thanks!

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[RBW] FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

[Derek Atkins]

Parts for sales. Will bundle and bundle price if you want. Figure $15-25 
for shipping depending on the item. Paypal, Venmo, Cash, Zelle, carrier 
pigeon, etc. Or I'm in Grand Rapids MI if you are a road tripping kind of 
person. 

Riv Silver brand Triple crankset $175 (used)
White Industries ENO cranks $175 (new... add used 38t ring for $25 more)
Nitto Chocomoose bars $65 (used)
Nitto Bullmoose bars $150 (less than 10 miles use)
Nitto Billie Bars $75 (less than 10 miles use)
Velo Orange 700c wheelset  rim brake (130 rear spaceing) w Sram 10-36 
cassette $200 (all used)
Brake levers $10 (used)



















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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

[Derek Atkins]

Sorry Justin. Going to keep her. Contemplating builds now for spring gravel
rambles.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 2:02 AM Justin Wyne  wrote:

> I was the guy messaging you to work with me off ebay but you didn't want
> to. Sounds like you are open to it after all
>
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 8:04:34 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>
>> I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead
>> of the 59 Clem H I have. In the end, a couple hundred difference in what I
>> might make between the two has me leaning more toward keeping the beautiful
>> Joe and selling the Clem at a good price to someone who wants it. If
>> someone here is still super interested in the Joe I might be willing to be
>> talked out of it. But I think I’m the end with some 2.1 tires on the Joe I
>> might be happy as a clam.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

[Derek Atkins]

Hi all, I sold the Clem earlier this week. It’s on it’s way back to the
west coast as we speak. Oregon actually.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 7:40 AM Will Ashe  wrote:

> I just realized you posted that’s it’s a 59...
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

[Derek Atkins]

I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead of the 
59 Clem H I have. In the end, a couple hundred difference in what I might make 
between the two has me leaning more toward keeping the beautiful Joe and 
selling the Clem at a good price to someone who wants it. If someone here is 
still super interested in the Joe I might be willing to be talked out of it. 
But I think I’m the end with some 2.1 tires on the Joe I might be happy as a 
clam. 

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[RBW] From Joe to Clem

[Derek Atkins]

Thanks Ryan! I’ve seen a few Rivs bopping around and a guy from here in GR rode 
one at Barry Roubaix last year. The Joe was my first dip into the Riv world. 

I have some Billie Bars and Bullmoose bars waiting in the wing, but I 
appreciate the offer on the other set-ups. 

If there’s ever a West Michigan Riv gathering let me know!

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Re: [RBW] Re: From Joe to Clem

[Derek Atkins]

Thanks everyone for the comments and help! This is my first time posting so
I’m not sure if this is going to everyone or what. I think I’m going to
keep the triple and see how it works. I put it on the Clem with no chain
and it looks like there shouldn’t be clearance issues with the frame. I
guess once I get wheels, tires, and a chain on I’ll know more.

I don’t really need the triple set up so worse comes to worse I guess I’ll
set what I can do to make it a double if I run into any issues.

Derek
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 8:50 PM Collin A  wrote:

> I have the standard build silver wide-low double on mine, which is the
> same crank arm as the silver triple (i'm 95% sure)...
>
>
> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:49:14 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote:
>>
>> Derek,
>>
>> I agree on the rational for wider tires (right now its the only thing
>> keeping me from buying a hillborne).
>>
>> In response to your questions:
>>
>>1. When I ran 650bx2.4s on my 52 Clem, I had chain rub between the
>>tire and chain using a 110 BB when in my lowest gear (throwing on a 113 BB
>>solved that). Looking at my Clem right next to my computer, I see no issue
>>with having a triple as my 38T chainring mounted inboard has 6.5mm of 
>> space
>>between it and the chainstay and the bashguard mounted outboard has 11.7 
>> mm
>>of space between it and the chainstay (this is slightly smaller than a 44T
>>chainring, so the clearances would shrink, but it should still work.
>>Gearing wise, the wider and larger diameter tires will slow you down a
>>smidge, so that 44 tooth may not see much use (and may be worth adding a
>>chainguard instead).
>>2. The width issue I cannot respond to directly, but if you go
>>tubeless, no more worries of pinch flats (not sure if those rims are
>>tubeless compatible though).
>>
>> Hopefully this helps
>> Collin
>>
>> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and
>>> enjoyed tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the
>>> end it was too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint.
>>> Luckily I picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut
>>> Creek a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between
>>> 50ish on my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we
>>> have lots of options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The
>>> Clem lets me sit pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those
>>> chainstays, and have a great all around town, gravel, singletrack
>>> dirt-forward option. Not that the Joe couldn’t, but I like the options the
>>> Clem give me to go with more rubber. I think the only things I’ll miss is
>>> the double top tube and those beautiful lugs :(
>>>
>>> Now to some questions...
>>> 1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple
>>> from Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances
>>> get missed up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can
>>> switch the Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what
>>> I’ve got? Or am I better off finding a true double?
>>>
>>> 2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider
>>> than 2.1 tires on them. Should I be?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>>
>>> And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know!
>>
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[RBW] From Joe to Clem

[Derek Atkins]

Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and enjoyed 
tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the end it was 
too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint. Luckily I 
picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut Creek a few 
weeks ago. 

Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between 50ish on 
my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we have lots of 
options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The Clem lets me sit 
pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those chainstays, and have a great 
all around town, gravel, singletrack dirt-forward option. Not that the Joe 
couldn’t, but I like the options the Clem give me to go with more rubber. I 
think the only things I’ll miss is the double top tube and those beautiful lugs 
:( 

Now to some questions...
1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple from 
Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances get missed 
up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can switch the 
Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what I’ve got? Or am 
I better off finding a true double? 

2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider than 2.1 
tires on them. Should I be?

Thanks for the help!

And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know! 

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Re: [RBW] Ultra Romance and his Rivendell Atlantis.

[Derek Atkins]

As the owner of a double top tube Appaloosa, I am a little jealous of the 
swoopy double on the Atlantis. Does make me want to throw some Ikons on though. 
Anyone know if the Joe can clear those 2.2s? 

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