Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos

[Eric White]

Thanks for the link to that documentation. I believe mine is a 54cm 2014
model. It looks like I got the newer blue color with the older fork. It's a
bridge model, I guess!

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:07 AM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Following up from a different thread re offshoot discussion of the San
> Marcos, the color changed between the 2013 Pearl Blue and 2015 Tiburon Blue
> versions, when they also expanded the range using 650b wheels to include
> the 54 and new 57 size.. Maybe the straight fork was retained on the
>  larger 650b sizes? The 59 and 63 had a double top tube and take 700c
> wheels. Mine is a 51 Tiburon Blue with 650b wheels.
>
> 2013:
> https://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf
>
> 2015: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:11:47 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking
>> around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand
>> the evolution of the fork and color.
>>
>> I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's
>> been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also
>>> thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand
>>> you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps
>>> to attach the third bottle holder?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very
 steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in
 what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant
 fork.

 [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]

 On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like it
> is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter fork.
> But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as mine yet
> with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have the
> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. Did
> you rig yours as an add-on?
>
> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid yet
> handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not a
> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle in
> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how it
> compares in geometry to the Roadini.
> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Looking good, Gary!
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't
 mind. You don't see too many in the wild!

 On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates 
 wrote:

> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky
> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San
> Marcos. Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is 
> living its
> best life.
>
> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you
> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one 
> doesn't
> turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged 
> one
> is pending, then it depends on price and timing. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides
>> on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! 
>> I was
>> lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as 
>> the
>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth 
>> tires
>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
>> surprise
>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>
>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals
>> and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™
>> seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike 
>> doesn't
>> meet their expectations, the women and other folks always 

Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Eric White]

I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking
around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand
the evolution of the fork and color.

I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's
been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle.


On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also
> thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand
> you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps
> to attach the third bottle holder?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very
>> steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in
>> what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant
>> fork.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>>> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like it
>>> is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter fork.
>>> But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as mine yet
>>> with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have the
>>> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. Did
>>> you rig yours as an add-on?
>>>
>>> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid yet
>>> handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not a
>>> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle in
>>> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how it
>>> compares in geometry to the Roadini.
>>> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Looking good, Gary!

 On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot  wrote:

> [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't
>> mind. You don't see too many in the wild!
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky
>>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos.
>>> Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best
>>> life.
>>>
>>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you
>>> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't
>>> turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged 
>>> one
>>> is pending, then it depends on price and timing. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides
 on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I 
 was
 lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the
 befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth 
 tires
 and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
 surprise
 midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride

 anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals
 and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™
 seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike 
 doesn't
 meet their expectations, the women and other folks always say how 
 beautiful
 the Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd 
 feet
 clean while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat 
 it is
 that I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the
 roadie-culture promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)

 Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your
 commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and 
 hope a
 Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add 
 to
 your hella colorful collection

 -Brent in chicago

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding
 Ding! wrote:

> This is SO fun.
>
> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your
> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here 
> you
> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly 
> hope we
> get to 

Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Eric White]

San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't mind. You
don't see too many in the wild!

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. 
> Entirely
> comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able
> to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life.
>
> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it
> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up,
> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is
> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>
>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a
>> road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky
>> to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the
>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires
>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise
>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>
>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my
>> bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused
>> about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their
>> expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the
>> Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean
>> while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that
>> I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture
>> promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)
>>
>> Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your
>> commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a
>> Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to
>> your hella colorful collection
>>
>> -Brent in chicago
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is SO fun.
>>>
>>> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your
>>> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you
>>> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we
>>> get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the
>>> Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated
>>> model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for.
>>> That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great
>>> choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used
>>> market? So far there have been none to be found…
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Me either!

 I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!

 All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom
 currently on offer at a very reasonable price…

 P. W.
 ~
 (917) 514-2207
 ~




 On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

 Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely
 irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in
 that picture says go-fast club rides to me.



 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels,
> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike,
> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:
>
> [image: IMG_6222]
>
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three
> shown in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike
> and the CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also
> indicative of its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure lands squarely
> in between also!
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM Valerie Yates 
> wrote:
>
> I've made an album with pics of my Roadeo, CHG, and Susie. Link to
>> album .  The album
>> includes a poor quality picture of the Gallop with the albastache bars 
>> that
>> were on it when it arrived.
>>
>> Leah - the drop from Will's saddle to bars was an intentional choice.
>> He chose a smaller frame with a raised up saddle to achieve a racier
>> position. My bars on the Roadeo are set fairly level with my saddle. With
>> drop-bar bikes, I tend to choose the frame with the minimum necessary
>> stand-over clearance to ensure I can have level bars without having to
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eric White]

As a fellow zip-tie dynamo light routing enthusiast, I can say I didn't
even notice them while gazing at the bike. The cable routing? Elegant and
graceful. The front bag? A nice blend of modern and classic. The zip ties?
What zip ties?


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 6:12:32 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> aware this is not the same color, and it might be even more different in
> person, those black zip ties ALL over the downtube ruin the paint for me. i
> think my bike has two (top and bottom) and it does the job well enough.
>
>
> They don't bother me that much, and I prefer not to have saggy wiring. I
> thought Cub House did a good job of lining them up with the decal ends,
> making them less obtrusive. My plan is to replace zip ties with twine
> eventually.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Eric White]

Sorry to hear you did not get the kickstand you asked for. Maybe you want
to go back to that shop and ask them to replace the current kickstand with
the one you originally asked for? Or maybe you've had enough of that shop
already.

No one else thinks it's a bit out of line for the shop to use the kickstand
they wanted vs. the one Leah wanted?


On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 8:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be
> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan
> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes.
>
> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I
> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about
> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d
> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to
> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires
> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d
> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he
> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned
> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it
> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a
> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes.
>
> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades
> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be
> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get
> replaced it’s intolerable.
>
> Kickstands.
>
> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in the
> back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced that
> kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too
> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my
> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way
> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and
> hope it would be right.
>
> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I also
> brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my bike.
> I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a
> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic
> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he
> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a
> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The
> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>
> But it wasn’t the SAME.
>
> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland
> Design Works stand; this one, I think:
> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>
> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get
> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack
> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play
> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand?
>
> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be done
> with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this one
> is adjustable.
>
> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the
> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you
> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics
> in the following post…
>
> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of
> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is
> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike
> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these
> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>
> Pics forthcoming…
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting a light on a basket

[Eric White]

I was just about to sandwich some 3" angle brackets to the bottom of a
front basket and use them as a light mount under the basket. I still might,
but that little mount is a pretty slick solution.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 3:08 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> That thing is adorable.  Here's the product page where one could buy one:
>
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/320707-tanaka-dynamo-light-mount-for-basket-ii-6544?page=3=950#attr=
>
> APPROVE!!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:55:25 PM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> I wasn't sure how I was going to mount the light on my cargo bike. Under
>> the basket was too low, and above the basket might get blocked by tall
>> cargo. Then I ran across this sandwich light mount for baskets on SOMA.
>> Works perfectly - very pleased.
>>
>> [image: Lights.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Hubbuhubbuh size small

[Eric White]

If only I were taller. That size L is going to keep me out of the captain's
seat but I appreciate the heads up!

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 8:02 AM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
martinpgie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not a small, but would fit a small stoker. Decent price. In the DC area in
> case any locals are looking.
>
>
> 
> Large Hubbahubbah
> 
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 4:58:43 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm looking to buy a small Hubbuhubbuh. I'm guessing there are not many
>> out there but if you have one and you're pondering a sale please let me
>> know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric in Madison, WI
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[RBW] WTB: Hubbuhubbuh size small

[Eric White]

Hello all,

I'm looking to buy a small Hubbuhubbuh. I'm guessing there are not many out
there but if you have one and you're pondering a sale please let me know.

Thanks,

Eric in Madison, WI

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Selling Hubba: Almost New, Very Nice

[Eric White]

  If this was a small I'd be all over it. If anyone does have a small
Hubbuhubbuh collecting dust, please let me know. GLWS, Robert.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:45 AM Robert Gardner <
robert.harris.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok ok everyone --
>
> Sorry for the cross-post all!
>
> I am selling my tandem because it is just sitting in my house and the
> reason that I got the vehicle didn't pan out (read into that what you
> will!). It has been ridden but not very much -- so, maybe 120 miles on it
> total. It was super duper expensive and made @ Hope Cyclery by Jarrod and
> that team, so it is very, very well put together and rides like a dream.
>
> So -- below is a partial list of stuff that the vehicle has. Basically, it
> was my pandemic purchase and I love it a lot, but I just don't use it. It
> is a very, very nice bike.
>
> Would absolutely be willing to meet someone driving as opposed to having
> to ship it (though could work that out...not sure how, but would be at
> purchaser's expense...). I'm in DC, so the obvious Eastern seaboard targets
> work out. I travel a fair amount for work so could drive it up -- might
> even be willing to throw in the Thule car rack (which is 500 bucks and
> basically one of two that exist...) -- also have some bags that work really
> well with the bike I would throw in as well.
>
> Bike cost much more than this, but would like to get appx 4k (which you
> could part out and get more than likely).
>
> Thanks all -- my loss equals your gain --
>
> - RGinDC
>
> Rivendell Crank Silver Tandem 178
> Rivendell Hubbuhubbuh Tandem Large Blue
> Paul Component Klamper Short Pull Flat Mount
> Paul Duplex Lever Silver
> Rivendell Nitro Bosco Bars
> PASS AND STOW 5 Rail Rack Silver
> Nitto Technomic Stem - 70mm, 26 Clamp, -18, 22.2-24tpi Quill, Aluminum,
> Silver
> White Industries XMR Tandem Hub Polished 148 HUB
> Shimano Deore RD-M6000-GS Rear Derailleur - 10 Speed, Medium Cage, Black
> Shimano Alivio CS-HG400 Cassette - 9 Speed, 11-36t, Silver, Nickel Plated
> Rivendell Silver Shifter X Riv Right
> Rivendell Silver Shifter O Riv Left
> Silver Mount Bar end
> Velocity Cliffhanger Silver 48h
> Shimano UN55 68x127mm Square Taper
> Brooks B17 Standard Saddle - Steel, Antique Brown, Men's
> White Industries M15 Silver 40h
> Q-Tubes 27.5 584mm x 2.0-2.25 48mm SV
> Jagwire Sport Derailleur Cable Slick Stainless 1.1x3100mm SRAM/Shimano
> Tandem
> Shimano Stainless Tandem Road Brake Cable 1.6 x 3500mm
> microSHIFT R9 Front Derailleur 9-Speed Triple, 50/39/30T, 31.8/34.9 Band
> Clamp, Shimano Compatible
> Paul Component Engineering Motolite Linear Pull Brake Silver
> Yokozuna Shift Housing BTF BY THE FOOT
> Yokozuna Reaction Brake Housing BTF
> NItto Tandem stoker
> Paul Lever Left Silver
> MKS pedals front and rear
> Brooks Front Seat (has been weatherproofed)
> Stoker Seat is generic "Amsterdam" seat (probably 35 bucks)
> Super Yummy 2.2s
> Custom grips, wraps, etc.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish cycling in Door County, WI

[Eric White]

I rode the Peninsula Fall Challenge a few years ago. The entire route was
fairly light on traffic with the exception of a stretch on highway 42.
Overall if you avoid highways 57 and 42 you should be in good shape. Bay
Shore Drive in particular is a lovely road.

These routes might provide some inspiration -
https://ridewithgps.com/events/105261-2021-peninsula-century-fall-challenge-ri


On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 11:22 AM Wesley  wrote:

> It's been a while since I was up to Door county, but the Ice Age trail was
> great for the kind of riding you're describing.
> -W
>
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-7 Forrest Meyer wrote:
>
>> Any tips or recommendations for good cycling, on Rivendell bikes (or any
>> bikes) in Door County, Wisconsin? I’m okay with mixed-surface roads, but
>> I’m not interested in technical single track. Thanks!  — Forrest Meyer
>> (Iowa City)
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Saddlesack Large

[Eric White]

That's a nice looking bag. How much clearance do you need from seat to tire?

Thanks,

Eric

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:39 AM E. Ricky Creek 
wrote:

> Bump.
>
> $150 shipped.
>
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> Link to pictures:
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/101J-pfoZ6t9HhmYfH_ZQ6FT6cXScr8aE?usp=sharing
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 10:50:06 AM UTC-5 Scott Lutz wrote:
>>
>>> Link to pictures:
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/101J-pfoZ6t9HhmYfH_ZQ6FT6cXScr8aE?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 10:41:30 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>>
 I have an almost brand new large Saddle Sack. This is likely from the
 3rd run. I bought two at the same time to safeguard against the future, but
 my first one from 2011 is still my main commuter bag and I honestly don't
 see it ever falling apart (though it looks really beat), so I am selling
 this one. I mounted it a couple of times, maybe rode with it twice, and
 then moved it around the garage for a few years. It has two grease spots
 and the saddle mounting leather shows a tiny bit of creasing from being
 mounted. The plastic stiffener inside is spotless and the underside is the
 same.

 It is gray.

 How about 170 bucks shipped?

 Scott

 Photos to follow. I am having mega tech issues with photos across all
 things at the moment.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Selle Anatomica X2 saddle owner

[Eric White]

I'm also experimenting with my first SA saddle and it definitely wants its
nose a little higher than I run my B17s. I was practically sliding off when
I first installed it in my usual Brooks orientation.

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 1:11 PM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> Good to know. And yes, that's a better way of putting it and it seems like
> mine is moving about the same amount. It's more of a feel than actually
> seeing it rotate.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:10 AM aeroperf  wrote:
>
>> I rode a Titanico X for three years.
>> I just checked the nose of the saddle - I can detect no “float”, though
>> it does wiggle (rotate) around the tension bolt just a little.  1/16”
>> either way.  I probably need to check the tension again.
>> One “modification” I’ve found is that Brooks Proofide is a much better
>> leather conditioner for my saddle than Selle Anatomica’s Saddle Sauce.
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Re: [RBW] New To Rivendell, Appaloosa Initial Impressions

[Eric White]

Hi Randy,

Good memory! You are correct. The San Marcos is my link to the Rivendell
family. Not quite as burly as your Appaloosa but it's a joy to ride on
the Driftless hills.

The Pugs was a blast to ride this winter. Most enjoyable were several rides
through the neighborhood over unplowed streets on cold, snowy nights.
Rolling over snow while watching snowflakes float through the headlight is
a pretty nice way to spend an hour or two.

Maybe we can make a ride happen sometime this summer and I can ogle your
bike in person. Respectfully, of course!

Eric


On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 6:36 PM larson@gmail.com <
larson.phot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Eric,
> How are you doing? Is my wife’s Pugsley working out for you? It took five
> months to get all of the necessary parts! Hope to cross paths with you
> again sometime! If I remember correctly, I believe you have a Soma San
> Marcos, which is a cool bike and part Rivendell :-)
> Randy
>
> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 6:02:54 PM UTC-5 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey, I remember seeing that bike when it was just a frame. I came to buy
>> a Pugsley and got a sneak peek. It looks fantastic. I hope to see it in the
>> wild someday. Congratulations on the build!
>>
>> Eric
>> (Also in Madison, WI)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:29 PM larson@gmail.com <
>> larson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: E986D2B1-4A98-4B9A-B7C7-C523BF1A7922.jpeg]Hey everyone! I am
>>> two months in to being a Rivendell owner, a 2TT dark green Appaloosa, and
>>> thought I would give my initial impressions. I live in the hilly Driftless
>>> area of southwestern Wisconsin, ride about 3000+ miles/year and am in my
>>> upper 50s. Only about 250 miles on the Appaloosa because of a cold, wet
>>> early Spring.
>>>
>>> The build is pretty straight forward, based on information from this
>>> forum and the help from Candice at Analog Cycles. I think I had only seen
>>> two Rivs in the wild, with one being on a car rack. Had a nice road-trip
>>> late last Summer to Ames IA to pick up the frame (thanks Brent!) This is
>>> the first bike I have built myself. I wanted a bike for mixed road day
>>> rides and short tours. Originally I was stuck on a Hunqapillar, but had no
>>> luck finding one. Then the Sam, but couldn’t find one of those either that
>>> would work for me. In retrospect, the Appaloosa is probably the best choice
>>> for me, situated between my Black Mountain Cycles monstercross and my Salsa
>>> Fargo, both of which I love. I expected Joe to ride like a Cadillac,
>>> comfortable and stable, and it does. What has surprised me is that the bike
>>> feels lively, and does not ride at all like a heavy touring bike. The
>>> comfortable position with the Billie bars, upright but with a very nice
>>> position at the front curves, works well for me. I appreciate the
>>> simplicity and the ease of working on the bike. I like the practicality of
>>> buying a very good frame and putting modest level parts. I also have come
>>> to understand some of the Rivendell philosophy of riding.
>>>
>>> I have ridden the bike on good and bad paved roads, gravel and a couple
>>> of farm field roads. In another month I will get to try the bike on some
>>> single/double track, and have several overnighters and a week tour planned.
>>> The Appaloosa is fun, capable and puts a smile on my face! Thank you to
>>> this forum for all the information I have gleaned in the last two years.
>>> Randy
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Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

[Eric White]

I'm intrigued by the idea of wider tires on the new Roadini but I currently
ride a Soma San Marcos that I'm pretty happy with. I can squeeze 38s in it
and the ride is pretty great for brevets and long leisurely rides. I do
like the 44s I'm running on a touring bike but I just don't know that I
need to move up to 42s on a new brevet bike.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:17 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> There are other factors that can make a bike seem sluggish other than the
> frame.  Honestly I think a good lightweight wheelset makes a huge
> difference. And the tires themselves.  Maybe the Gallop is different
> because of geometry but I find mine super zippy and my build is lightish.
> Probably around 21-22 pounds. But I do have the smallest frame (50cm)
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 12:08:54 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:
>
>> This is a helpful thread. I was ready to jump on the next Roadini
>> shipment, but this would be replacing a Jamis Aurora I no longer need, and
>> that's already an old school touring bike with heavy-ish tubing and stable,
>> boring ride quality. I have a bike's worth of parts parts that need a
>> rim-brake home--thinking about getting another BMC monster cross instead.
>>
>> Brady in SLC
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> It is a great orange :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022, Jingy  wrote:
>>>
 I bought the Roadini from Eric Daume after he was done with it. I like
 it, but I don't love it(other than the orange color). I've ridden it with a
 variety of 28-38mm wide tires. It handles fine,  and the fit is
 comfortable, it's just not a lively ride. I think it's overbuilt. If you
 are looking for a burly roadish bike, it may work for you, but if you are
 looking for a zippy road bike with fender and tire clearance, this isn't
 it.
 I was hoping for a budget Roadeo. I would like to try a Roadeo, but now
 I fear it is overbuilt as well. My wacked-out conspiracy theory is that all
 Rivs are overbuilt now because they can't afford to have any warranty
 claims.
 I have been meaning to sell the Roadini for months now, because I have
 other bikes I like(love) better, but I have been dragging my feet because
 orange! Plus I'm lazy about selling things.

 Jim in Mpls

 On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 8:43:17 PM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Regarding the Reynolds tubed bikes, my 1997 Lemond Zurich planed for
> me (Reynolds 853 61cm frame, me usually around 180 elbows). Max tire size
> is 700x30. And it was a real hoot riding as a 650b conversion. The 650b
> conversion seemed to amplify the plani-ness of the frame. Its too bad 
> those
> bikes don't fit 35 mm tires, in 622 size.  All City bikes are 853 too, but
> not all of them. I believe they accept tires wider than 30 mm.  Perhaps an
> All City may work for you. I have not had the opportunity to ride an All
> City bike.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 6:28:39 PM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> A couple of summers ago, I sold my Cross Check to buy a Roadini. I
>> liked the high stack of the Roadini (61cm), but the CC had better brakes,
>> more clearance, more flexibility, and rode better.
>>
>> The Roadini felt like an old school touring bike to me.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 2:44 PM Ezra  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings RBW Owners. My first post to the forum.
>>>
>>> Have you been a Roadini owner? Did the bike please you? I've heard
>>> tell that Roadini's feel sluggish and heavy for road bikes. I've never
>>> owned a Riv but I'm interested in trying them out. I'd be setting up the
>>> bike with Waive bars.
>>>
>>> I'd also be interested to know what size you are. I've also heard
>>> that Rivs tend to feel better on the larger side. No idea if it's true.
>>>
>>> Thanks for indulging my questions. I always find buying bikes sight
>>> unseen difficult.
>>>
>>> Ezra
>>> Michigan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Velotaxonomy: What are we, anyway?

[Eric White]

Just mentioning this local ride from Madison, WI that might be inspiration
for the sort of thing Leah and others are looking for -
https://monday40.com/

I'm sad to say I have never joined them for a ride but it looks like a
great group of folks and it's a goal of mine to join them for rides in
2022.

Eric

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:32 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> After all this time watching (and contributing silliness to) this thread,
> I still don't know what we are. Shortly after I picked up my custom someone
> asked me what kind of bike I got and I said road bike. Because I had it
> designed to be lightish and zippy on the road; no hardcore trail riding, no
> touring loads. But when you look at it there's high Billie Bars and a
> droptube Platypus-style and does not say "road bike" to anyone asking that
> question!
>
> So I ride my Rivendell in town and when people ask me what kind of riding
> I do they get a whole paragraph 路
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 6:31:09 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 0168267B-AB4E-4252-B2D2-09FC827BCB73.jpeg]We recently moved to
>> SW Michigan. I was a total Lone Wolf (borrowing from Eben Weiss, The Bike
>> Snob) in Vegas but I dream of having Real Life Bike Friends here. This List
>> has really been a gift to me, but it has also made me want more: I want
>>  REAL people and REAL experiences with them. I have found a shop that hosts
>> rides of various kinds 9 months out of the year. There is hope!
>>
>> The trouble is: I don’t know what I am, and neither does anyone else.
>>
>> I have never done a group ride. I don’t know how fast or slow I am, and I
>> don’t know how far I can go. I don’t know etiquette or what would tick off
>> other riders in the group. (My “group rides” were with my 2 sons on the way
>> to school. And it’s true that you learn a rhythm that works for your group
>> and on the rare occasion my husband got included, he made us all nervous.)
>> I would like to have a good first experience and not be a drag for a group.
>> I think failure would send me right back into Lone Wolfdom. I suppose I
>> will just have to risk it.
>>
>> When I say I ride, everyone thinks Roadie, and then they think of their
>> friend who is also a Roadie and want to plan a meeting for us. Now, I doubt
>> I’m going to keep up with a group of road bikes on my Platypus. When I say
>> I don’t have a road bike, the person will say, “Oh, you like to mountain
>> bike!” When I try to explain, try to say what it is that I ride, I don’t
>> have words. If I admit I don’t have a road bike or mountain bike people
>> assume hybrid bike from big box store = not a serious rider. I don’t know
>> what I am. I don’t know what “we” are. Where do bikes like ours fit? Who do
>> we ride with?
>>
>> In looking at local events online, it seems there are Roadies and there
>> are Gravel Kings (my own term). If I roll up on my fendered, raspberry
>> sparkle Platypus, both groups will be uncomfortable.
>>
>> My shop did mention some community rides, and those I will try, though I
>> suspect they might be short and slow for my taste. There are some very
>> exciting events state-wide here, but they do seem to be geared to road
>> bikers. I admit that I know very little about bike culture here, and
>> talking to real people might open up a lot of possibilities. Where are
>> these people I can talk to?!
>>
>> The locals tell me spring will be here in March. I’ve got 2 months to
>> figure out where I fit, Rivsters.
>>
>> Who can relate? Who has words of wisdom? Who just wants to commiserate?
>> Are we the outcasts of bike culture or are we unicorns? Where are we in the
>> Velotaxonomy? How do we make the cool people take us seriously? Should I
>> buy Lycra?
>>
>> What I wouldn’t give for a couple of RivSisters living locally…
>> Leah
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