[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne sizing advice

[Grady Wright]

Thank you for the pictures and stating the saddle hight! Super helpful. 
With my saddle hight being 79 or 80 that's more post than I want. Feeling 
good about buying the 60cm as well. 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 5:54:31 p.m. UTC-6 David B wrote:

> I did end up going back to the Riv shop last week to test ride a few more 
> bikes and nail down my size. Everyone I've talked to at the shop is in 
> consensus that the 60 Hillborne is the best fit for me, and I'd say I 
> definitely agree with them. I test rode a 57 Hillborne and 64 Homer, both 
> set up with swept bars.
>
> Here is what the 57 Hillborne looked like with a saddle height of 82cm. It 
> felt a lot smaller than I remembered. 
> [image: unnamed.jpg]
>
> Here is what the 64 Homer looked like with the same saddle height. I was 
> really comfortable in this setup, but I had zero standover clearance and I 
> don't think drop bars would have worked as well.
> [image: IMG_3383.JPG]
>
> I can't say for sure whether the 60 Hillborne will be a perfect fit, but 
> out of the sizes available, it definitely seems like the best option for my 
> PBH and height. I ended up ordering a size 60 frameset and will report back 
> with an update when I finish building it up.
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:53:40 PM UTC-7 gre...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Please report back when you get your new sam or the chance to ride the 
>> different sizes. I am wanting to get a sam for a dedicated drop bar rando 
>> bike. I am  6'1" PBH 90 and my 60cm Appaloosa fits just how I like with a 
>> wavy style handlebar. I'm thinking about buying a 60cm SH from my local 
>> shop but a little concerned about it being big for me using drops. Would 
>> love to hear about your experience.
>>
>> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:59:10 p.m. UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> You are in Berkeley, you should BART over to RIv World HQ and test one 
>>> out on the local loop up in shell ridge (its dry and perfect riding 
>>> conditions right now!). Last I remember there is a 57 demo with 
>>> billie/alba, but might be worth calling them first before making the 
>>> appointment.
>>>
>>> Collin, also in Berkeley, but with an 81cm PBH.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:06:45 PM UTC-7 David B wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam 
 Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first 
 Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross 
 Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts 
 the 
 bars too far below my saddle.

 I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for daily 
 commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd also like 
 to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line.

 I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes 
 and get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based on 
 the Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They 
 didn't have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a couple 
 of 61.5 Homers with different cockpit setups. 

- The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho 
bars) and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty 
 high 
to get the saddle in a good position.
- The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also 
comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top tube, however - 
 there 
was maybe a little less than a fistful of seatpost showing.
- The second 61.5 Homer with drops made me feel a little stretched 
out. The saddle was raised up higher than ideal for my height, but the 
 bike 
belonged to a staff member who wasn't around that day, and so we didn't 
adjust the saddle position. Part of me thinks it might have worked with 
 a 
lower saddle, shorter stem, and higher bars, but I'm not totally sure.

 I left feeling like a 60 Sam would work for me, but I'm now second 
 guessing whether it makes more sense to go down to the 57 for a shorter 
 top 
 tube length. However, the size 57 Sam has a suggested PBH range of 86-89, 
 which is 3cm lower than my PBH of 92. 

 Could anyone share if you've had a similar experience being in-between 
 sizes for a Sam Hillborne, and how the size you chose worked out? Or 
 better 
 yet, is there anyone near Berkeley who has a 57cm or 60cm Hillborne you'd 
 let me test ride to nail down my size? I'd be happy to buy you a beer or 
 some other beverage as a thank you!

 David
 Berkeley, CA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne sizing advice

[Grady Wright]

Please report back when you get your new sam or the chance to ride the 
different sizes. I am wanting to get a sam for a dedicated drop bar rando 
bike. I am  6'1" PBH 90 and my 60cm Appaloosa fits just how I like with a 
wavy style handlebar. I'm thinking about buying a 60cm SH from my local 
shop but a little concerned about it being big for me using drops. Would 
love to hear about your experience.

On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:59:10 p.m. UTC-6 Collin A wrote:

> David,
>
> You are in Berkeley, you should BART over to RIv World HQ and test one out 
> on the local loop up in shell ridge (its dry and perfect riding conditions 
> right now!). Last I remember there is a 57 demo with billie/alba, but might 
> be worth calling them first before making the appointment.
>
> Collin, also in Berkeley, but with an 81cm PBH.
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:06:45 PM UTC-7 David B wrote:
>
>> Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam 
>> Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first 
>> Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross 
>> Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts the 
>> bars too far below my saddle.
>>
>> I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for daily 
>> commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd also like 
>> to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line.
>>
>> I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes and 
>> get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based on the 
>> Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They didn't 
>> have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a couple of 61.5 
>> Homers with different cockpit setups. 
>>
>>- The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho bars) 
>>and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty high to 
>>get the saddle in a good position.
>>- The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also 
>>comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top tube, however - there 
>>was maybe a little less than a fistful of seatpost showing.
>>- The second 61.5 Homer with drops made me feel a little stretched 
>>out. The saddle was raised up higher than ideal for my height, but the 
>> bike 
>>belonged to a staff member who wasn't around that day, and so we didn't 
>>adjust the saddle position. Part of me thinks it might have worked with a 
>>lower saddle, shorter stem, and higher bars, but I'm not totally sure.
>>
>> I left feeling like a 60 Sam would work for me, but I'm now second 
>> guessing whether it makes more sense to go down to the 57 for a shorter top 
>> tube length. However, the size 57 Sam has a suggested PBH range of 86-89, 
>> which is 3cm lower than my PBH of 92. 
>>
>> Could anyone share if you've had a similar experience being in-between 
>> sizes for a Sam Hillborne, and how the size you chose worked out? Or better 
>> yet, is there anyone near Berkeley who has a 57cm or 60cm Hillborne you'd 
>> let me test ride to nail down my size? I'd be happy to buy you a beer or 
>> some other beverage as a thank you!
>>
>> David
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Willard Bay 200k

[Grady Wright]

*Write-up rather. 

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 12:00:30 a.m. UTC-6 Grady Wright wrote:

> Thanks for the report Brady, great right-up. I was supposed to ride this 
> but I had something come up with my dad who also has cancer. So many 
> similarities, First names, age, location. But I definitely would not be as 
> fast maybe I will see you at the next Brevet.
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 11:01:38 a.m. UTC-6 Brady Smith wrote:
>
>> I'd been looking forward to this ride for a long time. 
>>
>> I turned 40 in the fall, not long after my dad was diagnosed with 
>> leukemia. He knew he was sick when he started the first day of RAGBRAI last 
>> summer and found the first 40 hot and hilly miles of an 80 mile day 
>> unbearably, miserably difficult. 
>>
>> He's fine now, at least for now, having made amazingly quick and 
>> complication free work of chemotherapy and a bone marrow transplant, 
>> facilitated by the extraordinary generosity of a college student whom I owe 
>> a case of beer and then some when we're allowed to know who he is, and the 
>> skill of the oncologists and transplant team at the University of Colorado. 
>>
>> Needless to say, this illness provoked a fair amount of reflection and no 
>> small amount of urgency when it comes to cycling, especially since cycling 
>> has been so central to our relationship, and since the appearance of the 
>> leukemia on a week-long cycling event made it abundantly clear just how 
>> quickly one can go from able to not-so-able. 
>>
>> I've been a randonneur for a while, having gotten into it during my days 
>> commuting from Fort Lee, NJ into NYC. Until last year, I'd only ever 
>> managed 200ks, largely due to family and work obligations. I've always 
>> loved the sport, and wanted to do more, but it was also incredibly easy for 
>> things to get in the way, especially given how limited our brevet calendar 
>> is where I live now in Utah, and how busy one gets as an educator in the 
>> spring. 
>>
>> This fall, though, I put my name in the lottery for 
>> London-Edinburgh-London 2025, and I got in. I've never been a slow rider, 
>> but I've never been particularly fast either. My 300k last year was 15 
>> hours; I managed 400k in 21 hours, and that with a few flats and a sidewall 
>> cut and some patching of tubes at a Wendy's while eating a cheeseburger in 
>> the hopes of not having to do it again in the mountains in the dark. 
>>
>> I could probably manage LEL after a summer of randonneuring, but at 300k 
>> a day for five days is imposing no matter what one has done before. I set a 
>> goal to get faster--to lose some weight and finally be able to ride with 
>> the PBP finishers who always blasted off at the start of our brevets, never 
>> to be seen again. I doubled down on weekend nordic skiing this winter and 
>> bought a Zwift hub, upon which I mount my Roadini, which is transformed, 
>> somewhat irritatinglly, into an S-Works Tarmac in the app. Tired of running 
>> alone in the dark and the cold before work, I started riding most mornings, 
>> sometimes doing group rides, sometimes racing, sometimes just plugging 
>> along next to a pacer bot. 
>>
>> It's boring but effective. I could tell on my first mountain bike rides 
>> this spring that I was stronger. I was climbing hills in higher gears than 
>> I ever had before. I set a new personal best up Emigration Canyon a few 
>> weeks ago. But a 200k is not a short weekend ride, and my one opportunity 
>> to go long ahead of this event was a mixed bag, though in hindsight that 
>> was probably entirely due to having spent a few days prior couch surfing in 
>> a friends' apartment in NYC. 
>>
>> When we pulled out of the Centerville Walmart and headed north along a 
>> mostly flat course to the tiny town of Corinne, Utah and back again, my 
>> plan was "Hold on as long as you can, but no longer." 
>>
>> It was a beautiful day, with a high of around 70 degrees, and a slight 
>> headwind as we moved north, which meant that we would largely have the wind 
>> at our backs as we came home. I stayed with the lead group, mostly much 
>> more seasoned riders than me, up through the first control, thinking that 
>> I'd drop back after we headed out to make sure I didn't blow up later in 
>> the ride. 
>>
>> When push came to shove, though, I kept on going. The second quarter of 
>> the ride was hilly and windy, and I started to feel a bit queasy as I 
>> worked through a big section of rollers that led up to lunch. 
>>
>> At lunch, I mentally resolved to drop ba

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Willard Bay 200k

[Grady Wright]

Thanks for the report Brady, great right-up. I was supposed to ride this 
but I had something come up with my dad who also has cancer. So many 
similarities, First names, age, location. But I definitely would not be as 
fast maybe I will see you at the next Brevet.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 11:01:38 a.m. UTC-6 Brady Smith wrote:

> I'd been looking forward to this ride for a long time. 
>
> I turned 40 in the fall, not long after my dad was diagnosed with 
> leukemia. He knew he was sick when he started the first day of RAGBRAI last 
> summer and found the first 40 hot and hilly miles of an 80 mile day 
> unbearably, miserably difficult. 
>
> He's fine now, at least for now, having made amazingly quick and 
> complication free work of chemotherapy and a bone marrow transplant, 
> facilitated by the extraordinary generosity of a college student whom I owe 
> a case of beer and then some when we're allowed to know who he is, and the 
> skill of the oncologists and transplant team at the University of Colorado. 
>
> Needless to say, this illness provoked a fair amount of reflection and no 
> small amount of urgency when it comes to cycling, especially since cycling 
> has been so central to our relationship, and since the appearance of the 
> leukemia on a week-long cycling event made it abundantly clear just how 
> quickly one can go from able to not-so-able. 
>
> I've been a randonneur for a while, having gotten into it during my days 
> commuting from Fort Lee, NJ into NYC. Until last year, I'd only ever 
> managed 200ks, largely due to family and work obligations. I've always 
> loved the sport, and wanted to do more, but it was also incredibly easy for 
> things to get in the way, especially given how limited our brevet calendar 
> is where I live now in Utah, and how busy one gets as an educator in the 
> spring. 
>
> This fall, though, I put my name in the lottery for 
> London-Edinburgh-London 2025, and I got in. I've never been a slow rider, 
> but I've never been particularly fast either. My 300k last year was 15 
> hours; I managed 400k in 21 hours, and that with a few flats and a sidewall 
> cut and some patching of tubes at a Wendy's while eating a cheeseburger in 
> the hopes of not having to do it again in the mountains in the dark. 
>
> I could probably manage LEL after a summer of randonneuring, but at 300k a 
> day for five days is imposing no matter what one has done before. I set a 
> goal to get faster--to lose some weight and finally be able to ride with 
> the PBP finishers who always blasted off at the start of our brevets, never 
> to be seen again. I doubled down on weekend nordic skiing this winter and 
> bought a Zwift hub, upon which I mount my Roadini, which is transformed, 
> somewhat irritatinglly, into an S-Works Tarmac in the app. Tired of running 
> alone in the dark and the cold before work, I started riding most mornings, 
> sometimes doing group rides, sometimes racing, sometimes just plugging 
> along next to a pacer bot. 
>
> It's boring but effective. I could tell on my first mountain bike rides 
> this spring that I was stronger. I was climbing hills in higher gears than 
> I ever had before. I set a new personal best up Emigration Canyon a few 
> weeks ago. But a 200k is not a short weekend ride, and my one opportunity 
> to go long ahead of this event was a mixed bag, though in hindsight that 
> was probably entirely due to having spent a few days prior couch surfing in 
> a friends' apartment in NYC. 
>
> When we pulled out of the Centerville Walmart and headed north along a 
> mostly flat course to the tiny town of Corinne, Utah and back again, my 
> plan was "Hold on as long as you can, but no longer." 
>
> It was a beautiful day, with a high of around 70 degrees, and a slight 
> headwind as we moved north, which meant that we would largely have the wind 
> at our backs as we came home. I stayed with the lead group, mostly much 
> more seasoned riders than me, up through the first control, thinking that 
> I'd drop back after we headed out to make sure I didn't blow up later in 
> the ride. 
>
> When push came to shove, though, I kept on going. The second quarter of 
> the ride was hilly and windy, and I started to feel a bit queasy as I 
> worked through a big section of rollers that led up to lunch. 
>
> At lunch, I mentally resolved to drop back and save myself the misery that 
> I figured was out ahead, but after eating and getting back on the road, I 
> couldn't bring myself to do it. I spent fifteen miles yo-yoing off the back 
> of the group, watching my heart rate spike, thinking that I was about to 
> lose them for good, until the pizza/soda/bratwurst/energy bar combo I ate 
> in Corinne kicked in, and I realized I was going to stay with the pack 
> through to the end. 
>
> The last 40 miles or so were pure cycling bliss, a pack of riders on a mix 
> of steel and carbon riding swiftly along the shorelands of the Great Salt 
> Lake. I've always 

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Grady Wright]

Love this Sam. Is this the same green the new batch of Sam's are coming in?

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:21:13 a.m. UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> [image: Image (002).jpeg]T
> This bike brings me tremendous joy
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:26:18 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:
>
>>  I already own one  - a pumpkin orange from 2017. If they offer the new 
>> one in the black they once sold, I'm in for another! I'll set it up as my 
>> "fast" Sam - no racks, light wheels and tires, etc. That is far and away my 
>> favorite of all the Riv colors I've seen, across the fleet.
>>
>> John
>> Portland OR
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Who plans to buy a Sam Hillborne in May when they are due to arrive? 
>>> And, I wonder what colors they will offer. This photo thread is fun to see. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 6:24:11 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Great to see all these beautiful and functional Hillbornes. Although I 
 don't have one myself, I do think the Hillborne blue/grey is my favorite 
 of 
 the Rivendell colors. 

 Cheers, John

 On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
>
> It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back 
> style handlebars
> although of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar 
> if preferred .
>
> If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black 
> and a yellow perhaps mustard like color Sam. (Not sure what Riv called it)
>
> Cool stuff.
>
> I'm enjoying the thread.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>


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[RBW] FS: Rat Trap Pass Tires

[Grady Wright]

RH RTP tires for sale. About 200 miles. Have been sitting in a wheel box 
for a couple years In my basement. $75
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vPbEoUbLM1mC1osc7

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[RBW] Re: 48mm tire choice?

[Grady Wright]

Soma Cazadero comes in 700x50 but I have seen it on Platty and Sam's so I 
think it fits like a 48.

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:49:16 p.m. UTC-7 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Hi, can anyone recommend tires for 90% pavement that are 700x48 for my 
> Platy?  I've gone the cheap route with the Specialized Sawtooth but now I'm 
> ready for something better.  They have to be tough enough to commute on the 
> street every day.
>
> The only tire I can seem to find is the Shikoro. I remember reading some 
> mixed reviews but I couldn't find anything recent here.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom 
> Reston, VA
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB albatross or similar setup

[Grady Wright]

I have a steel one I am not using. 

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 11:22:09 a.m. UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Esteban,
> I saw an albatross bar advertised in the Seattle Craigslist.  Here's the 
> link:
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bop/d/seattle-rivendell-nitto-albatross-cromo/7429428469.html
>  
>
> Good luck!
> --Joyce
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:38:24 AM UTC-8 Esteban wrote:
>
>> Looking for an Albatross or similar bar/stem combo for an idea I’d like 
>> to try. Well- loved/tape residue/some scuffs fine. I may just borrow from 
>> my Quickbeam, but thought I’d try here first.
>>
>> Parents/grandparents of small children: I’m posting a Bobike mini and 
>> MUSA Burley Picolo later this week if trade is  thinking.
>>
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Grady Wright]

I built my Appaloosa with JJJ bars. I like them a lot; however, I agree 
with Larson.photo33 slightly wider would be desirable to me. My handlebar 
wishes are very similar to yours and the JJJ is the closest I have found 
that fit the bill, and I will be happy using them until something same but 
wider comes along.  

On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 5:45:29 p.m. UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I put Sycip JJJ bars on my Black Mountain Cycles monstercross bike last 
> year to convert the bike from drop bars, and have liked them very much. The 
> sweep is right for me and I am able to get a second hand position on the 
> curves, which I use often. They are close, but not quite perfect. I think 
> if I was getting a custom Doom bar I would base it on the JJJ bar, but 
> wider (about 710mm) with just a little more rise. I am building up a Joe 
> Appaloosa as my first Rivendell and am going to give Billie bars a try. If 
> this doesn’t work I will probably get the custom Doom bars based on the JJJ.
> Randy
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 4:55:24 AM UTC-6 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Dave, It is really going to be a case of getting our hands on the bikes 
>> and trying stuff out! Im pretty keen to try this Wright stem/Jones bar 
>> combo but if it doesn't work I'll happily use a Billie or maybe even score 
>> a Rons Back Bar in the next batch (in 18 months, lol).
>>
>> Eric, That JB bar has also been on my radar, it has a unique aesthetic. 
>> Unfortunately it is cromo and I'm not sure I'd enjoy the very short main 
>> grip area in actual use. It would fun to try nonetheless.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Velocity Atlas or Cliffhanger 700c wheelset.

[Grady Wright]

I have a brand new 700C Cliffhanger wheelset with Deore hubs 32h front and 
rear. Silver and Tubeless ready.  The were built by Rich Rivendell/Hands on 
Wheels. I paid $485 for them.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 9:11:35 a.m. UTC-6 Kushan wrote:

> Not the Atlas or Cliffhanger but I saw these on Craigslist recently that 
> might work for you: 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/oakland-sun-rims-rivendell-700c-wheelset/7323064562.html
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:07:54 AM UTC-7 jan.ot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Looking for a set of Velocity Atlas or Cliffhanger (Silver preferred) 
>> 700c wheels. Please PM me if you have a set available for sale.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Jan
>> San Francisco
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 60cm Appaloosa in Silver - FFHS only

[Grady Wright]

Hello Marty, 
I don't believe a Silver 60cm Appaloosa exists. At least not yet. The 60CM 
size was a new size for the last group of Appaloosas and they came in 
Orange and Blue. To my knowledge Silver frames in your size range would be 
a 58 or 62cm. Hopefully that little bit of info helps you track down a 
bike. I bought an orange 60cm last year at this time. It's a really great 
bike, I hope you find one. 

Regards

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 6:28:55 a.m. UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Just a probe to see if anyone is ready to move on to another Rivendell or 
> could use some funds for another project. PM me if you have one or know of 
> one. Thanks.
>
> Marty
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New 700C Cliffhanger Wheelset

[Grady Wright]

They are not machined 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> machined rims?
> -Kai
> 
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-4 gre...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Selling a brand new cliffhanger wheelset.
>> - Rims: Silver
>>  -32h front and Rear
>> -Deore hubs.
>> Asking $485 + Shipping
>> 
>>  Built by Rich at Hands on Wheels/Rivendell. 
>> 
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[RBW] FS: New 700C Cliffhanger Wheelset

[Grady Wright]

Selling a brand new cliffhanger wheelset.
- Rims: Silver
 -32h front and Rear
-Deore hubs.
Asking $485 + Shipping

 Built by Rich at Hands on Wheels/Rivendell. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: friction mode on silver shifters and shimano down tube dura ace shifters slip!

[Grady Wright]

I have had the same experience with my new silver shifters. They will not 
hold their position even when I tighten them to the point It's to difficult 
to shift. I am using an old M952 xtr derailleur.  They've even frayed and 
broken the shifter cable. I emailed them about it a couple time with no 
response but seems from the latest blog I believe that they are addressing 
at least the issue with it cutting the cable. Little disappointed as they 
are really nice looking shifters.  

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 11:32:06 p.m. UTC-6 Sam Perez wrote:

> Oh I didn't think of that I'm only just now tinkering with more than just 
> changing handle bars. I don't remember the last time I purchased a 
> replacement. I remember I broke the chain 2 years ago and replaced it. 
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 12:55 PM tuolumne bikes  wrote:
>
>> Are you absolutely sure the cable is slipping? Does it always move in the 
>> same direction? (Gets harder to pedal for traditional rear derailleur.) 
>> Never happens in index mode? Skipping on worn cogs with a newer chain can 
>> seem like a shifting problem especially if it's on the larger cogs and 
>> you're pedaling hard uphill. If the cassette is oldish, replacing it can 
>> narrow down the possibilities.
>>
>> Carl
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 7:14:40 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> does any one know how to trouble shoot friction shifters that wont hold 
>>> gears under hard effort, i have riv silver shifters and 9speed dura ace 
>>> down tube shifters that slip on friction mode.
>>>
>>> I have done the following only to have the lever loose grip after a few 
>>> shifts. (lots of hills)
>>> -tightened the bolt (done) 
>>> -tightened the D ring (done)
>>> -adjusted the rear  deralure (done) 
>>>
>>> any thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Velocity Cliffhanger wheelset

[Grady Wright]

I have a brand new 700c Cliffhanger wheelset silver 32h Front and rear with 
Deore hubs. It was built by Rich  Riv/Hands on Wheels. I ended up using a 
different wheelset for my appaloosa so these are just sitting here and I am 
willing to sell. 

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 6:54:27 a.m. UTC-6 Justin wrote:

> Whoops, very true Mark. I made a hasty post. At the moment I'm looking for 
> 700c. In a few weeks I'll be after 650b as well. Thanks
>
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 8:02:47 AM UTC-4 esoterica etc wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> Cliffhangers come in four different sizes; it'd be good information for a 
>> prospective wheelset owner to know what size you're looking for. 
>>
>> ~Mark 
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2020, at 23:59, Justin Wyne  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> What are the chances someone here has a set they aren't using and would 
>> like to sell? Silver preferred but not necessary. 
>>
>> thanks for looking
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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[Grady Wright]

Thanks! It's a 60cm. I'm using the Sycip JJJ Bar and the Silver 2 shifters. 

On Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:41:30 UTC-6, J Schwartz wrote:
>
> Very nice build 
> Is that a 54cm or a 57cm?  Albatross bars? and what are you using for 
> shifters there?
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-4, Grady Wright wrote:
>>
>> Finally built up my Appaloosa! it's as good as I remember it being when I 
>> tested one at RivBike.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Seeking rec's for short threadless stem with rise

[Grady Wright]

not exactly what you asked for but I'm going to share it anyway. 80mm with 
lots of rise. Nitto and has a 25.4 bar clamp. I have only seen this on Blue 
Lug but seems like people have had good experience ordering from them.

https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-mcr65-stem-silver.html


On Sunday, 7 June 2020 13:37:26 UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> I love my Wavy Bar better than Jones on my GBW, but want it higher/closer, 
> like the Jones is, so wondering what inexpensive, quality stem options 
> there are for short (5cm or less) and/or with rise.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
> www.DeaconPatrick.org
> www.CatholicHalos.org
> www.ShepherdsandHalos.org
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[RBW] New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Grady Wright]

The Email Newsletter from Rivendell yesterday mentioned Sam Hillbornes are 
coming later this year and maybe in an older Rivendell color. Any guesses what 
that color could be?

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[RBW] Re: What Fenders Are These?

[Grady Wright]

Thanks everyone. Those were the two fenders I had narrowed it down to. The 
Simworks internal measurement seems to small and further inspection of the 
photo on the Blug and your butternut Aapploosa here I think they most 
likely are the VO fenders. 

Thanks for sharing the pictures of your Appaloosas. Those are both great 
builds. 

Happy trails. 

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Grady Wright]

Currently out of stock but Rivendell has started selling 9s Chains for 
their long chainstays. 

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/chains/products/long-chain


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[RBW] What Fenders Are These?

[Grady Wright]

Hello Friends, 
Can anyone identify what fenders are in this photo from rivendell's blug? 

https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185091706269/who-rides-an-appaloosa-john-a-familiar-face-in


I messaged them to ask if they knew what size tires and model of fender and 
the answer was the tires were 2.25" Thunder Burt's and a Hanjo fender. I 
can see that the tires are Rocket Ron's and I can't find a hanjo fender 
that wide that was available around the time of this photo.


The goal for my new appaloosa is to do a 2.1" tire with fenders which from 
this photo looks possible if I can find the right fender. 


Thanks in advance for your help!

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[RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Grady Wright]

I have a couple pairs of Mountain Hardware 3/4 pants. They are a nice 
cotton twill and durable as they are marketed as climbing pants. I bought 
them a little too small so I never did wear them. One of these days I'll 
loose that last few pounds so I never returned them. 
>
> After checking it doesn't seem like they make the cotton ones anymore. but 
they do have this one available. in a good range of sizes. 

 
https://www.mountainhardwear.com/mens-logan-canyon-3-4-pant%C2%A0-1854971.html?cgid=mens-pantsShorts-hiking_1854971_variationColor=004#start=11

I will say everything I have bought from Mountain Hardware has been 
excellent quality so I feel good about sharing the updated style

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Grady Wright]

I got a call from Will yesterday saying that my frame has arrived and will 
be shipping soon. I asked him about the orange color and he said that the 
color is like the Susie orange. He said the photo's posted by Blue Lug 
don't represent  the actual color.
Looking forward to seeing all the new Appaloosa builds!  

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Grady Wright]

After a lot of near purchases I finally ponied up and pre-ordered  the 60cm 
Orange Appaloosa. My first Rivendell as well. It was the trifecta of model, 
color, and size that I couldn't not buy it. I feel so broke now but I am 
really looking forward to my new bike!. 

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[RBW] Re: Skis for AllTrails...

[Grady Wright]

These are exactly what I have been looking for! Thanks for sharing. My 
experience with BC cross-country skis are that they are difficult to 
maneuver in tight places and very short descents. You are spot on about 
needing a different ski for non-groomed trails (and I'll add something more 
efficient than snowshoes). I am probably going to pick up a pare and move 
my 3 pin binding/boot set up to these.

I have been researching these the last day or two and I think this type of 
ski has the unofficial classification of trekking ski. Seems that 
BlackDiamond makes one too yet with space age materials and more expensive.

Now we can ride and ski like Mongolians! Do you ski with a a long stick or 
ski poles? 

I also live in CO maybe I'll see you out on the trail one of these days. 

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants

[Grady Wright]

I ordered the MUSA pants this time around because the fabric seemed to have 
a little more structure than the previous version and I was in need of some 
sporty pants. They arrived today and immediately I had to come here and 
share how pleased I am with them. I could have ordered the L or the XL 
based of the sizing chart. I ended up going with XL because I suspected my 
tree trunk legs might not fit with the L size. XL was the right choice for 
me. They have a nice fit. the pants are loose enough to be comfortable and 
fitted enough to look flattering, even if I were to lose a few pounds. The 
fabric is a little lighter than I had anticipated but it still has enough 
fabric to hold some structure. I might describe them as "all season" light 
enough for warmer weather and with a base layer warm enough for cross 
county skiing (which I am going to try out tomorrow on the winter 
solstice). I would buy again if they did another run. All in all pretty 
perfect.

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[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

[Grady Wright]

I had the opportunity to take a Gus Boots on an extended test ride in the Mount 
Diablo State Park. My test ride included all terrain types from tarmac to a 
steep singletrack decent down a rocky spine.  My opinion is Gus is the most  
hili (mountain bikey) of the Rivendell lineup. It’s really a really fun and 
capable bike. I have also ridden a Hunq. I love both bikes. If both bikes were 
in my stable I don’t think the Hunq would be the primary trail bike. Gus Boots 
wins the trail spot and the Hunq would be the faster hili-country bike. 
My thoughts are if you have a Hunq already go for the Gus Boots because the 
threadless set up will give you more stem and handlebar options that are up to 
MTB strength. For someone that doesn’t have a Hunq and wants a Rivendell with 
greater tire clearance then a Suzie is a great option along with the Clem’s. 

Just my two cents. 

Happy trails 

On Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:05:14 UTC-7, David Wadstrup  wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I’m seriously considering buying one of Rivendell’s forthcoming Hillibikes 
> and am having a difficult time deciding between the Gus and Susie.  Would you 
> mind weighing in with your opinion? So far, I’ve got 1 vote for the Gus, 2 
> for the Susie. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As many of you  might know, the Susie is a lighter weight frame available for 
> lighter weight riders.  The earlier promotional writing listed the cut-off at 
> 165lbs, though the most recent email advertising the impending sale changed 
> this figure to 180lbs.  It’s also stipulated that it’s not the bike for 
> camping-weight loads of 25+ lbs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I weigh 170lbs, and will never load whichever frame I choose with any 
> appreciable weight other than myself. I’m the proud owner of a Hunq that 
> takes care of any loaded off-road-ish rides, and am interested in keeping the 
> Gus/Susie rack and basket free. It’ll be a dedicated, no load trail bike.  
> And I’m not a hard-riding trail rider either — no aggressive downhilling or 
> sizable jumps. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, given my weight and purpose, which would you suggest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Oh, also, before you answer…. one question for those of you who might have 
> this kind of technical information…. the Gus comes with a threadless stem, 
> the Susie with a quill.  It’s been my understanding that a quill stem set-up 
> weights a bit more than threadless. Is this correct? The actual stem is 
> heavier, of course.  But then the steerer of the threadless set-up will be 
> quite a bit longer and heavier vs. the quill. Does any one known what the 
> approximate weight difference is between the two? I believe I once read(maybe 
> in a Riv Reader?) that the quill set-up weighs about 8oz more. For those of 
> you who know, is this close to accurate or even in the ballpark?  I ask 
> because the Susie’s lighter tubed weight savings is 12 oz, and I’m wondering 
> how much of the this savings will be offset by its heavier stem.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyways, thanks for listening. Please let me know what you think and help 
> stop me from driving myself crazy. 

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[RBW] Re: Fall Web Specials at Rivbike

[Grady Wright]

I tried to buy that last Canti Sam twice! I was eyeing that last one 
forever on the site, the day I went back with intent to buy it was out of 
stock. Then it shows up in  an Instagram post .I went to the site again . . 
. gone. Glad it was you that got it Reid! 



On Sunday, 6 October 2019 16:47:50 UTC-6, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Couldn’t help myself. Bought the Canti Sam  
>
> May have either a Ram or an Appaloosa frame for sale depending which end 
> of the Riv spectrum I settle on. 
>
> Reid “I can quit whenever I want to” in Austin  

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[RBW] A Bicycle Adventure Story

[Grady Wright]

New episode of one of my favorite podcasts is a bicycle adventure story. I 
hope you will forgive this post for not being Rivendell specific content 
but I wanted to share it. . .because BIKES. 

Hope ya'll enjoy

https://gimletmedia.com/shows/heavyweight/6nhoak/24-jimmy-and-mark

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[RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

[Grady Wright]

I saw this vest at a Carhartt store and it seemed very bright and 
reflective. they run large for wearing over clothing so may want to size 
down.

https://www.carhartt.com/products/high-visibility/High-Visibility-Class-2-Vest-100501


On Friday, 27 September 2019 12:09:34 UTC-6, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Over the last few weeks I've had two close calls with automobiles during 
> my morning commute that really seem to come down to 'I didn't see you'.
>
> I currently have a dyno hub with full-time lights front and rear, and try 
> and ride predictably, but seems like I need to up my visibility game. I'm 
> thinking a very bright and loud reflective vest. Needs to be pretty light 
> weight though, maybe even a mesh.
>
> Any suggestions from the group mind on either vests you have been happy 
> with, or other tips n tricks for daytime visibility?
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[RBW] Re: 58Double top tube for sale

[Grady Wright]

Oh man! Very tempting. I am going to have to think on this. 
On Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:19:05 UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 
wrote:
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[RBW] Re: A Few Photos From Saturday's Ride

[Grady Wright]

Thanks for the ride report. Last fall I followed the same trail from SLC 
north to Ogden and took frontrunner back. I always intended to do the 
southern section. I have recently moved away from SLC so I imagine it's not 
a ride I'll get to do now, but now I feel like I was able to.

On Tuesday, 3 September 2019 23:31:53 UTC-6, Robert Hakim wrote:
>
> Last Saturday I took a ramble from my home near Salt Lake City down valley 
> to Utah Lake. I reckon it was a bit over 50, perhaps even edging towards 60 
> miles in that hot high desert heat. 
>
> I tried to attach photos here, but I believe they were too large. You can 
> follow along here (or better yet skip my rambling and get to the goods!): 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/YaWqzyDfqMZEqF3t6
>
>
> The route I took was quite nice and peppered with city parks and trail 
> heads with water taps- a saving grace in the 100*F sunshine- I must have 
> drank six to seven liters of water en route! It was mostly on a network of 
> connecting and sometimes patchy bike paths. The central part of the Jordan 
> River Trail runs just west of I-15 through a number of suburban towns that 
> fill the valley with their sprawl. I didn't take many photographs on the 
> first half of my journey, for I wanted to cover ground and avoid the riff 
> raff that tends to hang around the trail. Once I got farther south, the 
> path seems to run through more open spaces, where there are more snakes and 
> birds than humans- at least during midday in the summertime. 
>
>
>
>
> The lake ended up being a bit farther of a ride than I had anticipated, 
> but no worries- I had nothing to do but ride, and plenty of water en route. 
> One of my favorite sections of the trail ran from around South Jordan past 
> Riverton, through Bluffdale and stopped just shy of Lehi. That seemed to be 
> the stretch with the lowest population density and the highest 
> concentration of cottonwood and olive trees. The Jordan River Trail rolls 
> past a couple of open gravel pits before climbing up a small "pass" that 
> separates Utah County from Salt Lake County. Passing this point, the route 
> grew more suburban as I approached the mega-mall of Thanksgiving Point and 
> the Town of Lehi. Not to imply that the riding from here-on-out wasn't as 
> enjoyable, but I certainly didn't feel the brief solitude I did feel on the 
> last stretch. Now, I would be sharing the path with the occasional golf 
> cart through pop-up neighborhoods and oddly green golf courses. 
>
>
>
>
> Meandering on, I finally reached Utah Lake. Grateful to have reached my 
> destination, but wishing the shore (and the lake) was a bit more suitable 
> for a swim. The long, shallow,  muddy shore and long history of heavy 
> industry and mining adjacent to the lake kept me from taking a dip. 
>
> While I stopped for some shade and a beer I had carried, I really enjoyed 
> watching the birds float over this wetland. The wild-land/urban interface 
> is quite strong here, with habitats for young families, small farms, and 
> migratory species almost overlapping. It is a bit more open and a little 
> less crowded here than my neighborhood, and I can certainly see myself 
> returning to the shores of Utah lake for another ride in the near future. 
>
>
>
>
> Time to begin heading home! I leave the sanctuary of the bike path and hop 
> onto some quiet- if not rural-feeling roads heading east to the town of 
> American Fork. Here, I plan to catch the train back to downtown Salt Lake 
> instead of retracing my route... But not before following a short farm 
> road  to a small beach for one more lake view.
>
> As I ride past willows as tall as me, I startle hundreds of birds hiding 
> nearby and they all seem to take flight at once! 
>
>
>
>
> The ride through some modern neighborhoods and along the shore is 
> uneventful, save for one lifted diesel truck... It is Utah, after all! The 
> train station is conveniently located at the western edge of American Fork, 
> allowing for a low stress and low traffic arrival into the station. A 
> fifteen minute wait on the platform gives me time to reflect on my ride... 
> Certainly one of the most enjoyable I've had in a few weeks! I often lament 
> that the train doesn't run on Sundays here, I would love to take advantage 
> of their bike-friendly cars more often than I do. 
>
>
>
>
>
> The only downside of arriving in downtown Salt Lake is that my ride home 
> is all up hill... getting steeper, and steeper until I finally arrive. 
> After sitting with stiffening muscles for almost an hour in the aggressive 
> air-conditioning of the train car, uphill in the heat is the last thing I 
> want to do! 
>
>
>
>
> Fortunately for me, my favorite brewery is a few blocks south of the train 
> station- and they typically have a food truck out front on Saturdays. My 
> partner is easily persuaded with liquid motivation, so I offer a cold 
> beverage for a ride home. 
>
>
> All in all, a great time out on a fantastic 

[RBW] Re: Dropbar width

[Grady Wright]

Jim you are correct that the bar size reflects from the widest measurement 
in the Flare and the Hoods being closer. The 52 is closer to the 48cm 
Noodle in the hoods. The bar comes in 3 sizes 46, 48, 52 and in 25.4 and 
26.0 clamp sizes. According to Bike Touring News the bar RM-013 was also 
designed by Grant and original equipment on the 1987 Bridgestone MB-1. 
I have tried a couple other drops lately and I think I am sold on the RM-013
Here is some more reference.  

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http://biketouringnews.com/components-touring-bicycles/cockpit/touring-bike-handlebars/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebars/

https://store.biketouringnews.com/nitto-dirt-drop-handlebar-rm-013/

On Monday, 19 August 2019 14:33:37 UTC-6, Chris Balaschak wrote:
>
> I am wondering the consensus on handlebar width for a midsized human (PBH 
> 85).
>
> I have been riding 400m Nitto B132s, but feel they are much too narrow at 
> the brake hoods (maybe 370mm?). However, I appreciate the swoop and dip and 
> drop - the multiple hand positions. I would like a drop bar with at least 
> 420m at the hoods, and plenty of reach (there are some wider bars out 
> there, but have very shallow reach<80). What are you riding that is 
> comfortable, wide, multi-positional?
>
> My main consideration right now, are these, which are kind of wacko-wide. 
>
> https://www.sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/so-bar?variant=12605701750885
>

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[RBW] Re: Dropbar width

[Grady Wright]

Nitto RM-013 are a good alternative to the Noodles. They have shorter 
reach, and more flare, so more wrist clearance. 

On Monday, 19 August 2019 14:33:37 UTC-6, Chris Balaschak wrote:
>
> I am wondering the consensus on handlebar width for a midsized human (PBH 
> 85).
>
> I have been riding 400m Nitto B132s, but feel they are much too narrow at 
> the brake hoods (maybe 370mm?). However, I appreciate the swoop and dip and 
> drop - the multiple hand positions. I would like a drop bar with at least 
> 420m at the hoods, and plenty of reach (there are some wider bars out 
> there, but have very shallow reach<80). What are you riding that is 
> comfortable, wide, multi-positional?
>
> My main consideration right now, are these, which are kind of wacko-wide. 
>
> https://www.sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/so-bar?variant=12605701750885
>

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[RBW] Re: Wider flat bars

[Grady Wright]

Here is a collaboration that Crust Bikes did with Nitto that may be what 
you are looking for https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-x-crust/

On Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:34:36 UTC-6, PaulS wrote:
>
> I’ve got Nitto bars currently on my Hunq. They’re about 580mm wide. I’d 
> like something closer to 700mm. Anyone got suggestions? Something that 
> resembles the bend/angles of the current bars (see attached picture). 
>
> I looked at the Wavie bar. Maybe that’s the way to go. But just wanted to 
> see if there were other options. 
>
> —-well, guess I can’t attach pictures from a mobile site. But the current 
> bars look almost like the Wavie. Not too much bend. 

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[RBW] Re: Wider flat bars

[Grady Wright]

Sycip Designs
Sycip Designs JJJ Bar is also an option
Mtb bar, 31.8mm center dia. clamp, 660mm width, 20mm rise, 22.2mm bar 
diameter. 
Black Or Silver

On Sunday, 18 August 2019 18:32:09 UTC-6, Collin A wrote:
>
> You could also check out the simworks fun3 bar, 35 deg sweep and 680mm 
> length.
>
> https://sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/fun-3-bar
>
> I'm looking to try those when they get back in stock.
>
> Collin in Oakland
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 2:16:35 PM UTC-7, PaulS wrote:
>>
>> Thank you. I’d like probably something in between 20-30 deg sweep. Soma 
>> looks nice but too much sweep.  I may look at the Blue lug bars or Wavie. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer aged FS.

[Grady Wright]

On Monday, 29 July 2019 15:38:52 UTC-6, Steve Butcher  wrote:
> Hello, I'm offering for aale this excellent condition saddle. it HAs been 
> mounted on my Rosco Bubbe but I'm trrying a B17 i have on hand.  This sadddle 
> has alwaysbeeen stored indoors and never been wet. I'M  aSKING $100.00 FOR 
> THE ASsddle, ahiped IN CONUS.  PLEASE MESSAGE ME Off list with questions.
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri

I’m interested in this saddle, does it have the copper rivets?

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