[RBW] Re: FS 2021 60cm Appaloosa frameset

[Jim Plaugher]

Kevin, is this still available?
Jim in Lansing Iowa
On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 6:14:27 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:

> [image: IMG_20210926_175807860_1.jpg]
>  Here's a photo in its current incarnation. Can send more detailed shots 
> of the frame on request.

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa on hiatus

[Jim Plaugher]

April is the latest estimate for Appaloosas. I got this from Vince when I 
called Rivendell last Friday. I heard Blilver ( Seafoam Blue?) Will be one of 
the colors.
Jim in Lansing Iowa

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Re: [RBW] now Ebisu

[Jim Plaugher]

Hi Steven,
The seat height in the picture is probably about 179cm. The seat tube is 
56CT or 55CC. So this is a small frame for my height. The top tube is 59. 
The fork crown limits tire width in the 42 to 48 range. I am waiting to see 
the bike in person before choosing more parts.
Jim in Lansing Iowa

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:17:39 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Jim, very nice frame, can you tell me (us) the seat height in the picture 
> and seat and top tube lengths and width tire its designed for. Thanks, Steve
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:33 PM Jim Plaugher  
> wrote:
>
>> Ray, I would love to share a little about the Ebisu frame I am waiting 
>> for. 
>> Mr Hiroshi Iimura designed the frame around my 84 Mt.Fuji as a starting 
>> point. The laid back seat tube angle is the same but the rest of the 
>> geometry is new. The frame is fillet brazed and painted "steamed chestnut" 
>> from a Traditional Japanese Colors chart.
>> The compact frame was made to fit in a Not-a-Bike bag for airline travel, 
>> while the 26inch wheels go in an S and S soft case. Rinko headset and 
>> pedals help for taking the bike apart.
>> As far as Riv content goes, the seat height and small wheels allow room 
>> for an RBW BaggaBond saddlebag. I might use a Banana Sax (matching!) on the 
>> front. Silver2 shifters will be on the downtube. And Hiroshi Iimura was 
>> also one of Grant Petersen early influences.
>> Thanks for listening!
>> Jim in Lansing Iowa
>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:36:42 AM UTC-6 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Can we hear a bit more about your Ebisu, Jim?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] In praise of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 26X 2.00

[Jim Plaugher]

There have been times in the past year when I wanted to chime in about 
favorite tires, but  hadn't introduced myself, properly. I did post 
pictures of my Roadini a while back, but still remain more of a listener.
There are 15 models of Marathon so when someone says they replaced their 
rugged Marathon with a speedier tire, I want to ask "have you tried the 
latest generation Marathon Supreme?" With the new slicker tread pattern and 
One Star rubber compound?
I also want to ask , "have you tried the 26X2.00?" This size seems to be a 
real sweet spot in terms of rolling and feel. The revelation was how much 
better it rolled than 26X1.6 tire it replaced. It was not apples to apples, 
since the 1.6 was the previous compound and tread pattern. The 26X2.00 
Marathon Supreme seems similar to the Schwalbe G-One speed with a little 
thicker rubber.
Living on a gravel road where I feather the brakes going down some steep 
sections, the 26X2.00 feels more secure than the 700X35C on the Roadini, 
yet another reason this is my favorite tire.
Isn't it nice there still options for nice rolling 26inch tires? It gave me 
confidence when ordering an Ebisu frame based on 26inch wheels. It is still 
in Tokyo, in quarantine, waiting for Japan Post Office to accept large 
parcels.
For Patrick and others, the 26X2.00 Marathon Supreme measures an actual 
45mm on Atlas rims. The V-Guard models are made for tubes. The Schwalbe 14a 
xxlight tube fits perfectly.
Jim "Studded tires on the car; soon on the bike" in Lansing, Iowa

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Re: [RBW] 104/64bcd Crank Question

[Jim Plaugher]

Brian, Peter White sells 2 different TA104 chainrings and has pictures and 
spider dimensions under TA Chinook 9s chainrings. Hope that helps your 
research!
Jim in Lansing Iowa

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:06:11 AM UTC-5 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> Brian, 
>
> There is..I have first hand experience.You cannot mix and match 
> Shimano 10spd chainrings.  Thus, if you a 38 am for the upper ring you 
> must  use a 22 or 24(?) am for the small ring.   So on and forth.   If you 
> mix and match, it will fit together but you will throw the chain between 
> the chain rings.   
>
> This is one advantage of 110mm spiders you can mix and match to your 
> hearts content.   SImilar gearing advantages are achieved through 30/32/34 
> chainrings and the wide range cassettes now available.   This why SRAM NX 
> Eagle is so popular.  Have fun.  
>
> VTW
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious whether anyone could confirm or deny if all 104/64bcd cranks 
>> are created equal with middle/outer chainring compatibility or whether 
>> there are possibly some variances in spider/shelf design?
>>
>> The reason I ask... and this is purely academic at this time as I've no 
>> real need/time/expense to fully pursue any projects right now... is that I 
>> just now became aware of a spec/design feature of my Deore LX FC-M571 
>> Octalink triple crank which actually has a different shelf height on the 
>> middle and outer part of the 104bcd spider.
>>
>> I came to this realization after recently cleaning and mocking up my 
>> spare crank for a potential 2021 build.  I originally acquired this crank 
>> used as a 22-32-44 triple on a hand me down frame plus parts and turned it 
>> into a 32t bashguard sandwiched 1x crank for a while and then had picked up 
>> a 64bcd 32t inner ring (see example in the link below) and temporarily set 
>> it up as a 32t-32t-guard while experimenting with some chainline stuff on a 
>> previous project. 
>>
>> It never occurred to me before that 104bcd were unlike most 110bcd or 
>> 130bcd cranks I have with matching shelf height/spacing on the inner(middle 
>> if a triple)& outer ring positions.  My line of thinking was that if the 
>> 64bcd 32t position proved to offer better overall alignment than the middle 
>> 104mm 32t position I could just shift the bashring to the middle position 
>> with some single stack bolts.  Plus it gives me the option of a future 
>> 32-48t double for some more road oriented riding but  I was rather 
>> surprised to realize the chainguard and OEM outer 44t rings do not 
>> actually fit the middle 104bcd position because there's shallower spacing 
>> on the shelf to bolt hole on the inside and they'd need to be filed to fit.
>>
>> This realization had me further wondering about the 48t ring noted as 
>> being compatible with my exact 64bcd 32t inner ring for a 2x double crank.  
>> Anywhere I look I only find 48t SRAM/Truvativ rings spec'd as outers and/or 
>> for triples with 104bcd (any 48t doubles I've found are a different BCD 
>> altogether.)
>>
>> I'll admit my search hasn't been overly thorough, and possibly even more 
>> confusing with the same ring often being labeled as 'SRAM in Truvativ 
>> packaging' but for a 32t ring that everywhere I find it clearly states 'for 
>> use with 48t' I've yet to find the complementary 48t 'for use with 32t' 
>> that would specifically fit as a middle 104bcd.
>>
>> My moderate investment in this still useful 104/64bcd crank with spare 
>> BB-ES51 bottom brackets for both 68mm and 73mm shells and Riv's recent 
>> release of the 104/64bcd Silver crank is mostly what has me wondering... 
>>
>>
>> https://planetcyclery.com/sram-32-tooth-64mm-bcd-aluminum-chainring-gray-use-with-48t?gclid=Cj0KCQjwuL_8BRCXARIsAGiC51Cx5-QnwJ5GwH4cASMAgEDJ8yy9wxwkgIGS-zdE3hVNrWIPDNsfh9caAvpcEALw_wcB
>>
>> You could certainly argue that if I'm ultimately after a narrower 1x 
>> chainline and/or 32t/40something double for pavement usage I'd be better 
>> off with a narrower q crank, and you'd generally be correct.  I do also 
>> have another option with a 110 crank and rings that should be sufficient 
>> but just more or less trying to figure out the possibilities and details 
>> I've apparently overlooked all these years on 104bcd.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian Cole
>> Lawrenceville NJ
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[RBW] Re: FS: Frame - Susie W. Longbolts / Wolbis Slugstone 53cm!

[Jim Plaugher]

Hi Paul,
Sent PM
Jim in Lansing Iowa

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:38:01 AM UTC-5 Ash wrote:

> This's a very good deal!  The next batch is probably 18 month out or 
> longer.
>
> Of the two Rivs and two other bikes I have Susie is the one that gets 
> ridden the most these days.  Gravel rides with kid's trailer attached, 
> grocery runs, bring take out food from next town, a 8-mile quick fitness 
> ride during lunch breaks.. this bike can be used so many ways.  I even did 
> a 100k a month ago.  Now I'm planning a loaded multi-day tour on Susie 
> sometime this year.   Best of luck Paul.
> On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 08:47:58 UTC-7 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone!
>>
>> I have a beautiful BLUE Susie W. Longbolts frame for sale in the (now 
>> sold out) 53cm size. 
>>
>> Comes with a 73cm square taper Shimano 113 BB installed, which will pair 
>> perfectly with most Sugino or Rivendell cranks. If you need a seatpost I am 
>> happy to throw in a new 26.8 Rivendell Seatpost as well, as I have an extra 
>> here.
>>
>> (Susies don't come with seatpost of bottom bracket like other Riv frames, 
>> Will told me it's because they figure some people might want to use modern 
>> cranks).
>>
>> You can see images here 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Price is $1500 and I'll ship it anywhere in the continental US for free. 
>> Trying to keep the price fair as this board has been such a useful source 
>> of advice for me!
>>
>> Nothing bad to say about the Susie! Received the frame new a few weeks 
>> ago from Rivendell, figured as a replacement for the Atlantis that I use as 
>> a gravel/dirt road bike. After building it up and riding the Susie a dozen 
>> miles (on Asphalt) I realized I just prefer the Atlantis — I'm probably 
>> just used to my old bike. We live in town now, and I have limited storage 
>> so can't keep it for fun as I'd wish.
>>
>> The frame is in perfect condition besides being built up once and ridden 
>> for a few hours. I'm a fairly experienced builder, and mainly tested the 
>> bike on the road. There are no scuffs or marks I can find. I don't think 
>> this Susie would come off as anything but brand new once it is built it up 
>> by you!
>>
>> Images attached, LMK if you've questions. :)
>>
>> Much love,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Jim Plaugher]

I haven't weighed it. It has a light "let's just go a ride" feel, but is also 
very stable. I don't weigh it down with a large saddlebag like my Mt Fuji. So I 
have to bring a back pack for shopping. Back packs don't count as part of the 
bike weight, right?

Jim in Lansing Iowa

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