[RBW] Re: Sam for a Sam
Do you have any pics to show the color and condition of your bike? best, JimP On Feb 21, 9:36 pm, Adam oceanm...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings All, A quick note to see if there is any curiosity in a potential bike trade. I have a 52cm Hillborne with plenty of beausage though mechanically perfect that I've had for close to 2 years. I recently hopped on a larger frame and realized I may be more comfortable on a 56cm. I am perfectly content to ride my 52cm for the next decade but thought I might see if there is anyone out there with a 56 that feels too big. Located in Berkeley for logistic's sake. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another Rivendell... which one?
I have a Sam Hillborne which I love, I ordered it with a 56 cm frame and, as it turns out, I should have ordered the 54. Even so, it rides like a dream. I have a farm located about 200 miles from home. It is difficult to carry the bike back and forth without taking two cars so, ahem... I have an excuse to buy another Rivendell. :^) To be honest I really want an A. Homer Hilson but I do realize it is very similar (functionally identical) to the Hillborne. That's OK as the two bikes will be at different locations but I should at least give thought to another type Rivendell, maybe an Atlantis, a Rodeo, Ramboulet or... What do you think? I am 60 yo and have really just gotten into cycling. At home I ride around the city just absorbing the beauty of being outdoors in a wonderful old city. I take a camera sometimes and like photographing some of the beauty (including bike) around me. But, mostly I just enjoy the ride. I usually ride for about 40 minutes to an hour and head back home. At the Farm I have access to about 3000 acres of pastures and hardwood forests with horse trails and, no trails at all. I want to explore this area with my bike again, just enjoying the scenery and being outside alone with nature. Any thoughts? best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one?
OK, two questions that have nothing to do with the ride quality. I know weight is a taboo question but I like in a row house and have to carry my bikes up a fair number of stairs. Can someone list the frames in order lightest to heaviest? On the Rivendell site there are a number of Atlantis bikes pictured. Which color do you get without having to pay more? best, JimP On Feb 13, 3:51 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: I'm partial to the Atlantis since that's what I ride. As others have pointed out, Bomba, Hunqa or Atlantis can all be set-up as equally competent country / off-road bikes for what you describe. For the 3,000 acres of country riding, I'd want seriouly chubby tires, and would make a choice based on whatever takes the biggest tire you plan on using. dougP On Feb 13, 7:41 am, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Sam Hillborne which I love, I ordered it with a 56 cm frame and, as it turns out, I should have ordered the 54. Even so, it rides like a dream. I have a farm located about 200 miles from home. It is difficult to carry the bike back and forth without taking two cars so, ahem... I have an excuse to buy another Rivendell. :^) To be honest I really want an A. Homer Hilson but I do realize it is very similar (functionally identical) to the Hillborne. That's OK as the two bikes will be at different locations but I should at least give thought to another type Rivendell, maybe an Atlantis, a Rodeo, Ramboulet or... What do you think? I am 60 yo and have really just gotten into cycling. At home I ride around the city just absorbing the beauty of being outdoors in a wonderful old city. I take a camera sometimes and like photographing some of the beauty (including bike) around me. But, mostly I just enjoy the ride. I usually ride for about 40 minutes to an hour and head back home. At the Farm I have access to about 3000 acres of pastures and hardwood forests with horse trails and, no trails at all. I want to explore this area with my bike again, just enjoying the scenery and being outside alone with nature. Any thoughts? best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Smaller frame size next time?
I have a Sma Hillborne which I absolutely Love. It is the best bicycle I have ever owned. Orange frame, Cream Delta Cruisers and Honjo hammered fenders. A Magnificent and Functional work of Art. I can't help but think about another Rivendell at some point, perhaps an A. Homer Hilson or Atlantis. The question becomes whether or not to get a smaller frame. When I ordered my Sam I did the best I could with measurements and read that most people buy frames too small for them. I ended up buying a 56 cm Sam with 700 tires. It feels great when I am riding BUT, when I stand over the top bar I am right on it, and I mean right on it. I lean the bike over when I get on, but at stoplights I do fine with one foot (toe) down. That suggests I should have gotten the 54 but the bike feels great when I am riding. I guess that shows you can adjust seat height and saddle position and come up with a bike that fits while mounted even IF it is too large. So, if I ordered an AHH would you recommend a smaller frame? If so, what effect would there be, if any, moving back and forth between a 56 Sam and a 54 AHH? Thanks for any thoughts. best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shoes
Man those look really nice. A Tan Touring pair please! best, JimP On Jan 18, 1:59 pm, Bruce Baker bkno...@gmail.com wrote: Hey has anyone any experience with these bicycling shoes??http://www.quocpham.com/products/index.html Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] A Beautiful Day
Sam Hillborne aka Crazy Horse and I headed out to ride around the city. It was a beautiful day, 61 degrees and a clear sky. I rode around on back streets some of which were quite narrow, none smaller than Stoll's Alley. I had a very nice time and took a few pics FYI. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694464@N02/ best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riding around the City
Once again I posted my images backwards. If you go in 13 pics to the first one of the city jail and then click on 12, 11, 10... that is the way I traveled. The old city jail, where you could be imprisoned for not paying debt (insuring you would never get out). The gallows was out back and, believe it or not, the Medical School was located next to the gallows area.! Yes, unclaimed bodies of executed prisoners ended up at the Medical School... Making our escape Sam aka Crazy Horse and I headed down by the river for some fresh air. Nice day biking!! best, JimP http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne
On New Year's Eve, I took my first long off-road ride on my Sam Hillborne. I was at our Farm and started out by going downhill from the house to Cemetery Road. Cemetery Road is a dirt trail used as a stagecoach road in the late 18th and 19th centuries. It was built on what originally was a Cherokee Indian trail so it is hundreds if not thousands of years old. It runs through a gorgeous hardwoods forest. I have found many arrowheads on the Farm. It is called Cemetery road because the Lucy graveyard is located in the woods just off the road. Lucy was James Lomax Sr's second wife and apparently was quite a personality at the time. Across from the cemetery is where James Lomax Sr's house had been. He was my wife, Stephanie's Great-Great- Great-Great-Great Grandfather. The Farm has been in her family, except for a spell around the Great Depression, since the late 1700's. Our Farmhouse was built by James Lomax Jr 1809-1812. We now raise all natural grass fed beef. No hormones, no antibiotics and no feedlots. When I started out, Cemetery Road was a little soft from recent rains and covered with leaves. Riding down the road was easy on Sam. There is a hill, where the graveyard is located, then a fast drop to the bottoms. I stopped on top of the hill and spent some time at the Lucy Graveyard. It is located on a high ridge overlooking the bottoms. Once back on the road I headed down the steep hill. I was amazed at how fast I was going and, in fact, had to start braking to slow myself down. I did not know the pothole situation and had no interest in hitting one and flying over the handlebars. The bottoms were wet with lots of Wild Hog sign where they had been rooting around in the soft wet ground. I crossed the creek in the middle of the bottoms and walked the bike through the churned up hog mud out of the bottoms to Ross road, a dirt road which travels through the middle our Farm. I turned right onto the road and literally Flew downhill! It was hard to believe how fast I was going with very little effort. Sam sure rolls easily! I turned off the road and went back into the woods following an old logging trail. When I got to Bagg Creek, the biggest creek on the Farm, I got off the bike and started to walk across it but due to the recent rain it was up just a bit so I decide to try to ride across. I went back onto the logging trail got up a little speed and hit the river. About half way across I hit a hole and the handlebars gave way, absorbing the shock and likely keeping me from a very cold spill. I did have to step off the bike into about knee deep very chilly water. No damage done, but a lesson learned. I then went into Cemetery pasture up a large hill. By the time I made it to the top I was out of breath and hot! I took off some of my outer clothing and lay flat on the ground. I decided that if I didn't have chest pain after that, I didn't need to worry. From there I rode about a mile due west on a horse path that was fairly flat but still a little soft. Lots of Hog sign there as well. I began to think about the need for a pistol but dropped the idea. At the end of the path I walked the bike up a horse path through beautiful hardwoods to the Turkey Field where I have had many memorable hunts mostly won by the Wild Turkey! More Hog sign... Through a short stretch of woods and out into open pastures all the way back to the house. When I made it back I was exhausted but very happy with the ride. Lots to see and lots of easy as well as difficult terrain. Both Sam and I passed the test! Many more trails to try!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My First Off Road ride on my new Sam Hillborne
Here are pics but they are just backwards! If you start at pic 51 then go to 50, 49, 48... that is the way I road, starting at Cemetery Rd ending at the house then a few extra. http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pics of new Samuel Hillborne
I was told by someone at Rivendell that fenders will not fit with these tires. I then switched to the Jack Brown blues but switched back because I decided I'd prefer the Sam with the Fat Franks and no fenders than the other tires with fenders. I may be mistaken but that is my best recollection of my conversation. best, Jim On Dec 21, 12:57 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Cool tires, nice bike. So these are the 50mm 700C Fat Franks? Almost looks like you'd be able to squeeze fenders in there as well? (I know you can get SKS P50 fenders over 42mm Marathon Extremes, and I assume these 50mm Fat Franks run closer to 44mm (like the Big Apples). So, Jim, can we see some photos of the fender clearance at the fork crown, seatstay, and chainstay bridges? Congrats, Gernot On Dec 21, 5:48 am, JimP thefamil...@gmail.com wrote: 56 frame and I see the tires have 622 on them. Jim On Dec 20, 3:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I can tell from Schwalbe's web site, the Fat Frank does not come in a 584 size, only 559 and 622. ...hence my question. Which ones are we looking at in the photo? If they are 622's then I'm pleasantly surprised that my Hillborne might take them, too. If they are 584's then I'm pleasantly surprised because I didn't think they were made in that size. If they are 559's then I'm curious about some of the details of running 559's on a 584 frame. On Dec 20, 12:41 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 12:38 -0800, William wrote: or is that a 56cm Hillborne with 622 Fat Franks? On Dec 20, 12:36 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: you ran 559s on your Hillborne? Or are they 584 Fat Franks? As far as I can tell from Schwalbe's web site, the Fat Frank does not come in a 584 size, only 559 and 622. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pics of new Samuel Hillborne
I think I have it now. Fingers crossed! http://www.flickr.com/photos/56694...@n02/ best, JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pics of new Samuel Hillborne
56 frame and I see the tires have 622 on them. Jim On Dec 20, 3:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I can tell from Schwalbe's web site, the Fat Frank does not come in a 584 size, only 559 and 622. ...hence my question. Which ones are we looking at in the photo? If they are 622's then I'm pleasantly surprised that my Hillborne might take them, too. If they are 584's then I'm pleasantly surprised because I didn't think they were made in that size. If they are 559's then I'm curious about some of the details of running 559's on a 584 frame. On Dec 20, 12:41 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 12:38 -0800, William wrote: or is that a 56cm Hillborne with 622 Fat Franks? On Dec 20, 12:36 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: you ran 559s on your Hillborne? Or are they 584 Fat Franks? As far as I can tell from Schwalbe's web site, the Fat Frank does not come in a 584 size, only 559 and 622. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Samuel Hillborne is here!!
My gorgeous Sam Hillborne arrived yesterday. After getting ti together I stood back in awe. As it is a Christmas present I was not supposed to ride it but, screw that. I got on and took a tour of my immediate neighborhood. It is really comfortable. As it ha no fenders and Cream tires, it looks like a Creamcycle! I love it. It is the most beautiful and truly comfortable bike I have ever been on!! I will try to get some pics up soon. JimP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question
Can you list all 7 in order? That would be very interesting! Jim On Dec 8, 8:10 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Doug of course answered correctly. It's a trick question. The actual model in the middle of the 7 if you list them is Sam Hillborne, but one's love of one's own bike must over-ride that and one's own bike must be the center of the universe. Hence, for Doug, the correct answer must be Atlantis. And in the Peterson house, Atlantis is now a binary star! -James -Original Message- From: doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net Sent: Dec 8, 2010 4:49 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?). No worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and wonderfully comfortable on the road. I can't keep up with Rob on his Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming. dougP On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom, multi-geared, non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus status I say!) on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain bike...that's 7 models...the question is: Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum? Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in their heads. -James p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram and AHH? -Original Message- From: doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike? I'm shocked, genuinely shocked, that you guys are tossing out these recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research! How can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly exploring ...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges Sounds like a slice of heaven to me! S24O, anyone? dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ... THAT is the best answer so far Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no imposition, Jim...). Each rider would ride each bike over the same course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each. Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in May... BB On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Make it easy-just get one of each! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto climbthem...@gmail.comwrote: Alan- Great insights- After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did - chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs. Thanks Michael D. Walnut Creek Michael DiBenedetto www.lifeforcemassage.com 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C Lafayette, CA. 94549 925-899-2785 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight (both yours and gear) are the others. And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably. When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't tell any of the folks here that. :-) The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer- maximizer types can get carried away. Best, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Out of the box! (some Sam double top tube pics)
Congratulations Paul!! The bike looks beautiful and you look like a very happy man. Congratulations!! My Sam Hilborne should be coming within a week or so. I am very excited. Thanks fior the pics!! best, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Which Rivendell bike?
Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following: Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails. Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun). Thoughts? Recommendations? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
