Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Justin Kennedy]

Wow that's amazing. I had a bike on a luggage car once from NYC to 
Richmond, Va., and it was similar service. I should have mentioned that. 
All depends on what kind of train/cars you get. 

On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 10:56:35 AM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> That’s amazing! What a nice train. Have the best trip!
>
> On Jun 13, 2024, at 07:51, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Guys, they’re being so nice to me! They carried my bike up the steep 
> train steps, they told me to put it in a great place. No bags removed. 
>
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> I told the agent I was so excited and thanks for helping me and he has 
> been over here 10 times to point out everything he knows about anything. 
> This is GREAT!
>
> Also, check this out. Seen as I wandered the train cars.
>
> 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 13, 2024, at 12:33 AM, Timothy Hurley  
> wrote:
>
> On the Amtrak trains in the DC/NYC/Boston corridor you have to take the 
> front wheel off and hang the bike on a hook. I'm not sure if it's the same 
> everywhere, but fenders might be more of a problem than a long bike. I can 
> second that the conductors don't care about the dimensions of your bike 
> unless it's something crazy. 
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:02:00 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a 
>> camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 﫣
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>>
>> yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and 
>> take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 
>> miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with 
>> possible wind and heat issues...
>>
>>
>> Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?
>>
>> Have fun
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
>>> better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
>>> deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
>>> be much of a problem.
>>> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the 
>>> Summer time.  More power to him.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 

 I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to 
 drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking 
 my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of 
 state 
 for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
 Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get 
 me, 
 and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer 
 college 
 physics study time. Yes, seriously.

 The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
 that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
 get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
 rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
 in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
 Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:

 Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I 
 have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not 
 you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning 
 to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that 
 you'd 
 be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
 Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, 
 since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make 
 a 
 big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure 
 you'll be just fine out there with it.



 On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
> too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you 
> are 
> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I 
> don’t 
> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>
> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let 
> me know. 
>
> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, 
> but that bike would not be my choice for a 

Re: [RBW] Budget Clem L Build

[Justin Kennedy]

I would second the Soma recommendation above - they frequently have amazing 
sales of like 60-75% off. Recently had Clipper cranks for $50. I'd also 
recommend budget Shimano v-brakes and a cheapo rear derailleur which you 
can find on ebay or A'zon for ~$10-15. Also check out these Velocity 
Cliffhanger wheels for $110-$130 (entire wheelset for less than $250).

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=105455

Make sure you get the correct size, obviously. 

Otherwise, check your local craigslist for handlebars and other parts. Velo 
Orange sometimes has deeep sales/discounts depending on what component 
you're looking for. 

On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 10:52:30 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Please keep us informed of your total outlay. I'm interested in a budget 
> Clem myself.
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 5:42 PM Franco Rinaldi  wrote:
>
>> Ciao Everybody,
>>
>> About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / 
>> budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions!
>>
>> Appreciate you guys,
>>
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>> c:  646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> 
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Re: [RBW] Snake-in-a-bike

[Justin Kennedy]

Amazing! Great snaps too. 

On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 9:48:03 AM UTC-4 wn6...@aol.com wrote:

> Great images! 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 8, 2024, at 6:36 AM, Allan McLane  wrote:
>
> Here's a tale from the “Well, I never thought I’d see that” department… 
>
>
> This afternoon I was out on the Yvez Gomez, exercising the dog, when we 
> encountered a smooth green snake (Opheodrys vernalis), sunning itself in 
> the middle of the road. I stopped next to the snake to maneuver it to the 
> side but it decided to climb up my back wheel spokes and inspect the 
> interior of the cassette instead. After several failed attempts to nudge it 
> along, it exited the cassette, went forward along the chainstay, and 
> completely entered the fender, going up. 
>
> To extract it from the inside of the fender I slowly rolled the bike 
> backwards until the snake popped out the rear and onto the ground. At this 
> point it had gotten the message well and slithered off into the stone wall. 
>
> For the curious, full photo documentation here:
> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBpqQB
> 
>
> Allan in Marlboro, Vt
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[RBW] Re: FS: Teravail Cannonball Tires 700c x 47 Durable - $50

[Justin Kennedy]

Oops forgot to mention these are the tan sidewall version... 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 9:59:05 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> I have a set of low mileage, no flats (tube mounted) Teravail Cannonball 
> Tires for sale. 
>
> -700c x 47 (29 x 47)
> -Durable casing
> -Compatibility: Tubeless
> -Bead: Folding
> -Casing: 60 TPI
>
> https://www.teravail.com/product/teravail-cannonball-tire-394759-1.htm
>
> $50 plus actual shipping cost (or local pickup in NYC). 
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[RBW] FS: Teravail Cannonball Tires 700c x 47 Durable - $50

[Justin Kennedy]

I have a set of low mileage, no flats (tube mounted) Teravail Cannonball 
Tires for sale. 

-700c x 47 (29 x 47)
-Durable casing
-Compatibility: Tubeless
-Bead: Folding
-Casing: 60 TPI

https://www.teravail.com/product/teravail-cannonball-tire-394759-1.htm

$50 plus actual shipping cost (or local pickup in NYC). 

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Justin Kennedy]

Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was 
slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced 
it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Joseph -
> Thank-you. 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and 
>> post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Joseph -
>>>
>>> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
>>> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
>>> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Joseph -
> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
>> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
>>> Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
>>> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Danny -
 Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
 grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as 
 well. 

 Kim Hetzel

 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:

> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>
> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>
> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten 
> them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and 
> not 
> tighten down enough unless they're greased up.*
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>
>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could 
>> not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>
>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
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[RBW] Re: Question for Cheviot Owners

[Justin Kennedy]

I sold my Chev back in 2021 to get a Clem because I wanted bigger tire 
clearance and v-brakes. Then the Platypus came out, which was essentially a 
Chev with nominally bigger tire clearance and v-brake posts, so I switched 
back. I would ride a Cheviot again, but prefer the Platypus. 

Jason on this list has my old Cheviot and, I think, uses it as a daily 
commuter. He may be willing to sell it, though. It's a good bike and the 
last time I saw it was in great condition and nice build. 

On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 7:56:19 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My completely wild guess with no facts to back it up - when has this ever 
> stopped me?! - is low volume. The timeline you describe is pre-pandemic 
> boom and, I think, pre-the more widely held acceptance of low stepover 
> frames as a thing dudes ride. Now there's Clem Ls and Platys as far as the 
> eye can see - we don't even have the Clem H anymore - because Riv hit their 
> bike boom and everybody rides low step! 
>
> *obligatory shots of my low step custom and step-through Clem
>
> [image: Screenshot_20240308_045503.jpg][image: 
> Screenshot_20240308_045342.jpg]
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Recently a James on this List wanted a 60 cm Cheviot. Pam (who always 
>> wants everyone to find their Rivendell and get riding) asked me to help 
>> find one. I knew it would be difficult, and while I didn’t find him one, 
>> Kim found him TWO, and in James’ preferred color. Happy ending. 
>>
>> Anyway, it seems to me (I might be wrong) that Cheviots are rarely for 
>> sale. I think they were made from 2014-2019, so they did have a good run. 
>> Is it that their owners keep them? Or are there really just so few? Maybe 
>> more of them belong to women, and maybe women don’t sell bikes as often as 
>> men do? 
>>
>> Why is it so hard to find a Cheviot on the used market? This is what I 
>> want to know.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Stainless bottle/ cage recommendation

[Justin Kennedy]

I have a Klean Kanteen 800ml w/ a bamboo top. The top would rattle a little 
during rides but I put a tiny strip of Newbaum's on it and it's now rattle 
free. It fits snugly in a King Iris cage.  

On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 8:29:14 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thank you for the Bivo suggestion, those are just what I have been looking 
> for. I ordered two and am going to give them a test run soon!
>
> Sarah
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 9:23:42 PM UTC-8 ocea...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1 for king cages and I’ve recently discovered Bivo water bottles. 
>> They’re excellent and silent. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 8:33:57 PM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> + 1 Iris. Simple, indestructible, elegant shape,
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 8:07 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>>>
 I've enjoyed the Iris King cages 
 .
  
 Very secure and quite elegant looking.
 [image: Screen Shot 2024-02-25 at 8.06.35 PM.png]
 Cheers, John


 On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 7:52:55 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com 
 wrote:

> These have worked well for me. Adjustable fit to keep the bottle 
> firmly in place.
>
> [image: cfff0946e78b4f4406f14619c8cbfea9.jpeg]
>
> Mojave Water Bottle Cage 
> 
> velo-orange.com 
> 
> 
>  
>
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>
> On Feb 25, 2024, at 7:03 PM, Bernard Duhon  
> wrote:
>
> Mates, 
>  
> I would like to migrate to a stainless water bottle.  Most folks with 
> em I noticed a rattle I could not tolerate.
>  
> Recommendation for a rattle free stainless bottle & cage ( of any 
> composition)  
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[RBW] Re: Going really large on Clems

[Justin Kennedy]

I have a 91 PBH and rode a 64 Clem L for a couple years that felt a hair 
too big. I now ride a 60 Platypus that fits much better. (Obvious different 
geometries/rides - plenty of that discussion on this board.) 

Still got the 64 Clem L frame if you're looking! I'll make you a deal 

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 11:49:07 AM UTC-5 snipp...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi, I'm new here, all my Rivendell ownership is currently confined to 
> their components all over my Riv-esque bikes, Soma Saga, New Albion 
> Privateer, Schwinn High Sierra (that one is destined to be replaced with a 
> proper Riv) Omnium Cargo. It would be nice to have the main course and not 
> just be fiddling with the condiments.
>
> I've been reading what folks have written about Riv sizing, both here and 
> on Rivs website, and was particularly interested in Grant's experiment with 
> a 64 Clem for his 85mm PBH. I have a PBH of 85.5 so in theory I could do 
> similar. Oddly, according to their spec sheets, a 64 has 1mm less reach 
> than a 59.
>
> Anyone cheerfully riding against the grain size-wise?
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[RBW] Re: Single Chain for Your Long-Stay Bike

[Justin Kennedy]

Good looking out! Thanks for the tip. 

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 2:15:42 AM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is a great option, but once you buy two chains once, then save the 
> excess, then you only need to buy one more chain for quite a lot of 
> intervals thereafter. 
>
> How has your experience been running the 11spd chain on 9-speed cassettes, 
> if any?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 8:00:57 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> If like me, you have a longstay Rivendell and have some minor 
>> inconveniences with the luxurious ride it provides, I have good news! Most 
>> of the Shimano 11 speed chains (which shift great on 9 and 10 speed 
>> drivetrains, and last longer than the 9 and 10 speed chains) can now be 
>> bought at 126 links long, which means no more cobbling together a normal 
>> 114 link plus 10+/- links from another chain. Maybe folks were already 
>> aware, but maybe not.
>>
>> For reference, my 51 cm Joe Appaloosa with 52 cm chainstays running a 
>> 42/24 chainrings and 11-34 cassette requires 124 links. I'll likely pickup 
>> a microshoft sword 10 speed 11-38 to go along with a new chain
>>
>> Search for: shimano 11 speed chain - Performance Bicycle 
>> (performancebike.com) 
>> 
>>
>> Happy Riding,
>> Collin, no longer splicing chains at least, in Berkeley
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: New MKS Pretzel pedals coming out next month

[Justin Kennedy]

I  put them on my cargo bike and all I can really say is they’re big and 
grippy! Lmk if you’d like a pair. I still have the silvers available. Don’t 
think I’ll be replacing the Monarchs on my Platy. 
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:40:07 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Justin et al: Anyone had a chance to try these pretzels yet? Let me know, 
> very curious. 
>
> Anyone remember those dreadful "Must be the pretzels!" commercials from 
> the mid 90s? 
>
> https://youtu.be/0yMoV0BE-mI?si=110yTxnvbkaaLgs6
>
> On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 9:10:26 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> I just received two sets of these pedals from Japan (one in silver and 
>> one in black). Haven't put them on a bike yet but they're essentially MKS 
>> Monarch's with the Riv pedal wings 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension> built in. Some 
>> minor differences but that's the gist of it. Looks like they're panda-able, 
>> too, same way the Monarchs can be switched out to mix and match colors. 
>> These were $50 (shipping included) from Amazon Japan but looks like the 
>> price has since gone up. Blue Lug is selling them, too, for just under $50 
>> but gotta pay that $$$ shipping. Anyone else tried them yet? 
>>
>> https://global.bluelug.com/mks-pretzel-pedal-silver-1.html 
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> It kind of looks like a mash-up of my two favorite MKS pedals, the 
>>> Sneaker Pedal and the Gamma/Monarch. I'm def curious about these. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Must be a MKS thing, pretzel, taco... what's next the nacho pedals???
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 12:35:10 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’ve seen it in-person and … I’ll pass. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 3:50:19 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your information. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Curious as to whether or not they would accept the cage extension 
>>>>>>> that currently RBW sells."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Pretzel pedal has the cage extension BUILT IN.  You won't need 
>>>>>>> the cage extension with the Pretzel.  It's already in there.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:51 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I came across  these new MKS Pretzel pedals, while looking for 
>>>>>>> something else on the MKS website. They definitely look like they a 
>>>>>>> twist 
>>>>>>> to them, like a pretzel.  Curious as to whether or not they would 
>>>>>>> accept 
>>>>>>> the cage extension that currently RBW sells.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/news/node/453
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: New MKS Pretzel pedals coming out next month

[Justin Kennedy]

I just received two sets of these pedals from Japan (one in silver and one 
in black). Haven't put them on a bike yet but they're essentially MKS 
Monarch's with the Riv pedal wings 
<https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension> built in. Some 
minor differences but that's the gist of it. Looks like they're panda-able, 
too, same way the Monarchs can be switched out to mix and match colors. 
These were $50 (shipping included) from Amazon Japan but looks like the 
price has since gone up. Blue Lug is selling them, too, for just under $50 
but gotta pay that $$$ shipping. Anyone else tried them yet? 

https://global.bluelug.com/mks-pretzel-pedal-silver-1.html 

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> It kind of looks like a mash-up of my two favorite MKS pedals, the Sneaker 
> Pedal and the Gamma/Monarch. I'm def curious about these. 
>
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Must be a MKS thing, pretzel, taco... what's next the nacho pedals???
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 12:35:10 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve seen it in-person and … I’ll pass. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 3:50:19 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Bill
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your information. 
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Curious as to whether or not they would accept the cage extension 
>>>>> that currently RBW sells."
>>>>>
>>>>> The Pretzel pedal has the cage extension BUILT IN.  You won't need the 
>>>>> cage extension with the Pretzel.  It's already in there.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:51 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I came across  these new MKS Pretzel pedals, while looking for 
>>>>> something else on the MKS website. They definitely look like they a twist 
>>>>> to them, like a pretzel.  Curious as to whether or not they would accept 
>>>>> the cage extension that currently RBW sells.  
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/news/node/453
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>
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[RBW] Coaster Brakes for a Beachy Clem Build

[Justin Kennedy]

I'm considering converting my 64 Clem L frame into a beach cruiser and kid 
hauler to keep at my in-laws' place in Florida. The bike is currently 
stripped down to just F/F/HS/BB, so starting from scratch here. I can 
source most of the components from my various parts bins, but looking into 
doing a coaster brake set up which I do not have on-hand. 

Anyone have experience with setting up a coaster brake'd bike? (Not 
specifically on a Clem, just any bike in general.) I see MONē has a pretty bas 
ass coaster brake wheel 
 that's built 
on-demand, but I'm not sure it's worth $325++ as I'd prefer to keep the 
build as inexpensive as possible (we're only down there a few times a 
year). Any other off-the-shelf coaster brake wheelset recommendations? 

Also, what other fun components make it a certified beach cruiser? I have 
some VO Klunker bars to throw on there and I got some some inspirational 
ideas at the two below links (LOOK barefoot pedals per Crust Matt's 
Romanceur, pops of anodized components, etc.). Maybe a B-O-B or Frances 
Cycles trailer to haul gear to the beach? What else is fun? 

https://theradavist.com/the-coaster-brake-challenge-and-yall-thought-you-were-a-freak/

https://droppedchain.com/first-gen-romanceur/

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems (Tallux, Dirt Drop, UI-87)

[Justin Kennedy]

Bump...  only the threadless UI-87 is left. 

UI-87 1 1/8" threadless - 26.0, 80mm reach; excellent condition. black 
finish. $75 shipped ($70 local pick up in NYC)
https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-ui-87-stem

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:12:28 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Three Nitto stems for sale. Pics avail upon request. 
>
> 1. Tallux - 25.4, 100mm reach; practically brand new, great condition $70 
> shipped ($65 local pickup in NYC)
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-tallux-stem?_pos=1&_sid=8bc6e0872&_ss=r
>
> 2. Dirt Drop - 25.4, 80mm reach; used but in good shape over all; a little 
> rust on the top quill bolt. $50 shipped ($45 local pickup in NYC)
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-dirt-drop-26-0-8cm-or-10cm?_pos=1&_sid=37de706bb&_ss=r
>
> 3. UI-87 1 1/8" threadless - 26.0, 80mm reach; excellent condition. black 
> finish. $75 shipped ($70 local pick up in NYC)
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-ui-87-stem
>
>
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Re: [RBW] 2.25 Thunder Burt on a Platypus?

[Justin Kennedy]

Also, not sure how I missed this, but Roman's 60cm Platypus on the Riv 
Staff Bikes pages is sporting 2.25 Thunder Burts. Not sure what rims those 
are mounted to, though, but they might be black Cliffhangers?  

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/romans-60cm-platypus-86-5cm-pbh

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 11:25:03 AM UTC-5 Lonnie wrote:

> I love the 2.25 G-ones.  They work well on the neighborhood singletrack, 
> but don't feel too slow on pavement.  But as I mentioned, they required 
> swapping out the bottom bracket to keep the chain off the tire (when 
> mounted on cliffhangers).  Had I known that would be the case, I would have 
> gone with the 50mm gravel kings.  If I didn't already have cliffhangers, I 
> might have gone with a slightly narrower rim.[image: Platy~.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] 2.25 Thunder Burt on a Platypus?

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Christian et al.,

This was actually a question I posted for a friend of mine who was building 
up his Platty, and, long story short, the 2.25 Thunder Burts mounted to 
Cliffhangers do indeed fit the frame. Just barely, but they fit. I'll try 
to post some pics once he sends 'em. 

I have 2.25 G-Ones on my 60cm Platypus with plenty of clearance. They're 
mounted to Alex Adventurer2 rims, though, so a little narrower than 
Cliffhangers. 

FWIW, I talked to Rich at Riv about a year ago about Cliffhangers for a 
Platypus. He thought they were too wide for a Platy and suggested an Atlas 
or something similar. I ended up with the Adventurer2's which have been 
great. Plenty of evidence, though, that Cliffhangers work on Platypus 
frames. Whether they're "the way to go" or not is ultimately up to you. 

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:04:57 AM UTC-5 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> I’m currently building up my Platy 55 frame, so I don’t have a lot to go 
> on other than measuring clearances, but it looks like 50mm with any tread 
> might be about the limit. *Maybe* 55mm with smooth tread. I’m fitting 
> mine with 38mm and fenders for mostly paved roads. 
>
> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 12:22:48 AM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *1) *Perhaps needs its own thread, but are Cliffhangers the way to go 
>> for a Platy if you’re riding with more weight? I have Atlas now and at 
>> least need a new rim, but want to run 55mm tires and something durable for 
>> my 200lbs self plus some grocery’s and for sometimes riding it “where you 
>> shouldn’t” as grant states. Cliffhangers vs Dyads or something else?
>>
>> *1 A)* Anyone have experience with the RH Antelope Pass 55 slicks? Would 
>> it be a mistake to make the investment in the ultralights in Black like the 
>> crust build below just for the aesthetic, when this will be an around town, 
>> grocery and baby hauler bike?
>>
>> Considering those, Fleecer Ridge, or G One All Rounds to replace the 
>> current 50mm Maxxis Ramblers…
>> *[image: IMG_5571.jpeg]*
>>
>>
>> *2)*
>> *Justin*, curious to know if you pulled the trigger on the Thunder 
>> Burt’s? If so, how’s it work and what’s it look like, and if not, what’d 
>> you go with?
>>
>> *Lonnie, *are the 2.25 G Ones working well still? Send a pic?
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> Christian in Boulder, CO
>>
>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:22:07 PM UTC-6 Lonnie wrote:
>>
>>> I have Schwalbe G-one all around tires (29x2.25) on Cliffhangers on my 
>>> Platypus and they've been great.  Fairly fast rolling, but plenty of 
>>> traction for some loose trails.  The tires fit the frame fine, though I 
>>> have to deflate them about to get them around the V-brakes.  The unexpected 
>>> issue I ran into involved the chain being too close to the tire.  Drive 
>>> train is old sugino touring triple and 9-sp cassette.  When in the granny 
>>> ring and biggest two cassette cogs and when riding rougher trails, the 
>>> chain would hit the tire and get sucked in between the tire and the 
>>> chainstay.  This never happened on smoother roads.
>>>
>>> I eventually bought the widest (and offset) Shimano bottom bracket that 
>>> Riv sells.  That seems to have fixed the problem, even on the rough 
>>> trails.  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 6:58:34 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a bike with a 29x2.25 Thunder Burt on an i29mm rim, on which the 
>>>> casing measures wider than the knobs and is 56mm / 2.2" @ ~20psi. 
>>>> Variances 
>>>> in individual tires aside that should be a good max as the Cliffhangers 
>>>> are 
>>>> i25mm. I'm pretty sure this would work on my Platypus (60cm) if I didn't 
>>>> have fenders installed which limit me to a 50mm tire.
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 5:54:37 PM UTC-4 penne...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>> FWIW, the April 28 email newsletter featured a 60cm web special platy 
>>>>> with 2.3" Teravail Ehlines. Will said: "It clears easily, although I 
>>>>> wouldn't go any bigger. I suspect these tires are measured knob to knob, 
>>>>> because calipers showed them as closer to 2.1 than 2.3. Still good!"
>>>>> Mack 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 3:29:05 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say it isn’t likely. I have the Soma

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

I think I recognize that bike. Orange Cheviot in Brooklyn? See him around 
from time to time. 

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:10:33 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> [image: IMG_6778_Original.jpeg]Here’s a candidate for beausage of the 
> month…
> Not for sale as far as I know, so the wrong post, but with all the talk of 
> tough lockups, this one stood out to me.
> -Kai
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:
>
>> "Who are you going to believe?? Me, or your own eyes??"  -Groucho
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:01, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate 
>>> being told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
 That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". 
 YMMV I guess.

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:

> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with 
> so many scratches. YIKES !
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 
>>> 150 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

"Tough bikes to love" ;-)

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:02:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
> many scratches. YIKES !
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 
>>> bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
>
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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Friday and Saturday morning's weather notwithstanding, it was an awesome 
weekend once again! Some pics and videos below on my IG highlight reel. Was 
great meeting Eric Marth in person as well as hanging and riding with 
fellow Brooklynite Stephen. The camp this year was the best yet - an old 
Boy Scout camp with lots of interesting terrain to explore. The bunk'd out 
lean-to's were lifesavers for staying relatively dry Friday night. 
Hopefully they'll keep doing it at Deer Lake going forward.  

https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18022077148765755/

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:30:54 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> How was the ride?  I missed it this year due to a work trip.  Last time my 
> crew made it up was 2021 (a fabulous year) and I'm itching to get back.
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes it looks terrible! Hope still fun tho  
>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:20:51 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> The forecast is getting worse the closer we get! 
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-10-16 at 4.33.11 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:25:02 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be there again, this time on a big ol pistachio Romanceur 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:58:35 PM UTC-4 lyon...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to add a mermaid gus to the mix--see you out there!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam in Portland
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:26:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most excellent! Looking forward to it and hoping the forecast 
>>>>>> improves. 
>>>>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Justin and Stephen — I'll be on my Appaloosa so that'll be three 
>>>>>>> mermaid frames... at least! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep that was me!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:23:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll be there on the appa!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
>>>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some day…
>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there this year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mermaid 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Yes it looks terrible! Hope still fun tho  
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:20:51 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> The forecast is getting worse the closer we get! 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-10-16 at 4.33.11 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:25:02 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> I'll be there again, this time on a big ol pistachio Romanceur 
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:58:35 PM UTC-4 lyon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to add a mermaid gus to the mix--see you out there!
>>>
>>> Adam in Portland
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:26:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most excellent! Looking forward to it and hoping the forecast improves. 
>>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Justin and Stephen — I'll be on my Appaloosa so that'll be three 
>>>>> mermaid frames... at least! 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep that was me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:23:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ll be there on the appa!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some day…
>>>>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Platy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] 2.25 Thunder Burt on a Platypus?

[Justin Kennedy]

I know it's beyond the official max tire size but wondering if anyone has 
experience with big ol' tires on your Platy. Specifically, a 29'er 2.25 
Thunder Burt (mounted on a Cliffhanger) on a 60cm Platypus. Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Most excellent! Looking forward to it and hoping the forecast improves. 
On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Justin and Stephen — I'll be on my Appaloosa so that'll be three mermaid 
> frames... at least! 
>
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Yep that was me!
>>
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:23:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ll be there on the appa!
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some day…
>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this 
>>>>>>>> year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> I’ll be there on the appa!
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Some day…
>> Have fun!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>
>>>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>>>
>>>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this 
>>>>> year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>
> Patch in Brooklyn
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this year. 
>> If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.
>>
>> Cheers-
>>
>

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[RBW] Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this year. 
If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.

Cheers-

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cheviot Cycling Cap green

[Justin Kennedy]

SOLD. Thanks-

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:38:05 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> $20 shipped. See pic.
>  [image: IMG-3187.jpg]
>

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[RBW] FS: Dark Realm Wald 139 Basket Bags (Pink! and Drip Camo)

[Justin Kennedy]

Both are for a big Wald (139) and have the OG ghost logo rather than the 
new lightning bolt logo. Pics available upon request. 

1. PINK! with a little adhesive stain/wear from an old patch. $50 local 
pickup NYC. Shipping possible but you pay actual shipping charges.

2. Drip Camo, great condition, no stains or smudging. Used 3-4 times. $75 
local pickup NYC. Shipping possible but you pay actual charges. 

https://shop-realm.com/products/wald-basket-bag-black

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Stems (Tallux, Dirt Drop, UI-87)

[Justin Kennedy]

Three Nitto stems for sale. Pics avail upon request. 

1. Tallux - 25.4, 100mm reach; practically brand new, great condition $70 
shipped ($65 local pickup in NYC)
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-tallux-stem?_pos=1&_sid=8bc6e0872&_ss=r

2. Dirt Drop - 25.4, 80mm reach; used but in good shape over all; a little 
rust on the top quill bolt. $50 shipped ($45 local pickup in NYC)
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-dirt-drop-26-0-8cm-or-10cm?_pos=1&_sid=37de706bb&_ss=r

3. UI-87 1 1/8" threadless - 26.0, 80mm reach; excellent condition. black 
finish. $75 shipped ($70 local pick up in NYC)
https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-ui-87-stem


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Justin Kennedy]

Sorry, Mike, it is indeed a 100mm. 

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 9:59:06 AM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Thanks for checking! I"m dialed in at 90mm, so it would be dealbreaker...
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically 
>> brand new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically brand 
new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

[Justin Kennedy]

I use the LL Bean buckskin chopper mittens over a pair of Riv dotty wool 
gloves. I find the mitten liner the chopper mitts come with to be TOO warm, 
in fact, and my hands sweat. (I think they're synthetic.) It's also nice to 
have some dexterity with actual gloves underneath rather than another pair 
of mittens under. You can even wear them with fingerless dottys and stay 
reasonably warm. 

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/502856?originalProduct=60315=1158101

https://www.rivbike.com/products/dotty-wool-gloves-pair

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 9:19:27 PM UTC-4 rus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bloody hell, reasonably priced gloves
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:18:40 PM UTC-6 Russell Duncan wrote:
>
>> I use the treasonably priced TEMRES 282-02 gloves for a variety of winter 
>> activities, including riding ATVs and snowmobiles. Good shoulder season 
>> gloves by themselves or add a wool liner. Great gloves for snow shoveling. 
>> For that shoulder season time of the year, I drop down a size. For colder 
>> weather, I use Size XL with a liner.
>>
>> https://gearjunkie.com/apparel/showa-temres-282-02-review
>>
>> Russell Duncan
>> Leverett, MA and Saratoga, WY
>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:11:06 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried USB heated gloves? A friend we go riding with swears by 
>>> them in winter, though I haven't used them myself. In winter here we're 
>>> sometimes riding in temperatures of -5C or accasionally a couple of degrees 
>>> colder (somewhere around 20F). At those temperatures I find that a pair of 
>>> Roeckl lobster mitts over thin woolen gloves keep my fingers feeling OK. 
>>> For feet I have a pair of Shimano winter shoes - I think the model is MW7. 
>>> The best skullcaps for those sort of temperatures I've found, that will fit 
>>> under a helmet, are made by Vaude.
>>>
>>> Nick Payne
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: New MKS Pretzel pedals coming out next month

[Justin Kennedy]

It kind of looks like a mash-up of my two favorite MKS pedals, the Sneaker 
Pedal and the Gamma/Monarch. I'm def curious about these. 

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Must be a MKS thing, pretzel, taco... what's next the nacho pedals???
>
> John
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 12:35:10 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I’ve seen it in-person and … I’ll pass. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 3:50:19 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bill
>>>
>>> Thank you for your information. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 "Curious as to whether or not they would accept the cage extension that 
 currently RBW sells."

 The Pretzel pedal has the cage extension BUILT IN.  You won't need the 
 cage extension with the Pretzel.  It's already in there.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:51 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I came across  these new MKS Pretzel pedals, while looking for 
 something else on the MKS website. They definitely look like they a twist 
 to them, like a pretzel.  Curious as to whether or not they would accept 
 the cage extension that currently RBW sells.  

 https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/news/node/453

 Kim Hetzel.

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[RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Justin Kennedy]

I've never used one, but these Memento Cycles racks look good, sturdy, and 
are on the cheaper side:

https://mementocycles.com/en-us/collections/all

The Soma Lucas 3 rack is also super sturdy. Not the best looking rack out 
there but a steal at $60:

https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/soma-front-rack-lucas-3-4817



On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 9:31:35 AM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have the Ti version of this: 
>
>
> https://rawlandcycles.com/products/rando-v4-steel-rack?utm_source=copyToPasteBoard_medium=product-links_content=web
>
> The steel is a much better deal of course for not much more weight. I’ve 
> carried the over 20lbs on mine no problem. 
> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 4:26:08 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I use a Wald 137 attached to a Jack the Bike Rack with a Fifth 
>> Season/Analog Cycles Squall Sack.  It's secure, and I remove it in moments.
>>
>> https://wholegraincycles.com/products/jack-the-bike-rack-1cB
>>
>> https://analogcycles.com/products/fifth-season-squall-sack
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:16:51 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> I love these: Rip Rack from Rat King, Five Rail from Pass & Stow, or the 
>>> 34F from Nitto.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:26:12 PM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 That Cycles manivelle rack is slick. No zip ties, cool!

 Edwin

 On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:54:33 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers 
 wrote:

> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution 
> from a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less 
> than 2 lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. 
> The 
> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you 
> might 
> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>
> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to 
>> get it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
>> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
>> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify 
>> the 
>> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and 
>> cost-efficient 
>> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
>> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part 
>> with, I'd love to hear from you.
>> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are 
>> using for your Wald 139 Baskets.
>> Thanks!
>> Alex
>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
>>
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Re: [RBW] FREE: Riv Peace Wheel T-shirts XL

[Justin Kennedy]

sorry all, already claimed!

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:57:22 AM UTC-4 freefo...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I'll take one off your hands. 
>
>
> Michael 
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 7:49 AM RBW Owners Bunch  
> wrote:
>
>> I have two unworn/brand new Ukraine Peace Wheel tees in size XL (color is 
>> gray) that are free to a good home. Just Venmo me $5 for shipping. 
>>
>> Back image below; front is a pocket-T with "AT ITS BEST PEDALING IS 
>> POLITICAL" printed on the pocket. DM or reply here. 
>>
>> [image: へ'）Nº237 Sometimes The Best Way To Heal Is With Cold Steel 
>> ❤️‍啕 | by Jon Woodroof | Medium]
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[RBW] Re: Did Charlie Gallop lose its swoopy top tube?

[Justin Kennedy]

.."What I'm really wondering now, is if the Susie/Gus 
hybrid will go the same way."

The two bikes hanging behind Will in the pic are the lugged Susie/Gus 
hybrids. The swoop tube stays. 

[image: 370362249_683295397169028_2329456213564681462_n.jpg]



On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 2:45:41 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

>
> I like it too.  Interesting evolution.  I like the fact that Riv shares it 
> with us, even if it occasionally means that you get attached to something 
> that won't happen.   I imagine this helps keep the lug manufacturer busy 
> and committed.  Plus, VO sort of stole some thunder when they knocked off 
> the original charlie prototype as the low-kicker.  This is more true to 
> their signature - although, yes, I see Joe's influence.
>
> What I'm really wondering now, is if the Susie/Gus hybrid will go the same 
> way.
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:00:12 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I prefer a full low mixte or the swoopy hillybike style to a higher angle 
>> but Rivendell doesn't do anything I would consider unpleasing to the eye. I 
>> will need to see full geometry but it seems like this is just a Platy with 
>> a slightly higher top tube. I doubt the tube set is different so weight 
>> would be similar (just trying to think of roady considerations) Actually 
>> its probably closer to a Cheviot.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:05:21 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> guess so
>>> I think it looks so much better this way personally 
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-08-26 at 12.04.33 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:01:25 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Interesting!  I wonder if they've pivoted on what the Charlie is going 
 to be.  Going lugged at the head tube, like the new Gus batch, is great 
 but 
 losing the swoop tube would be a real shame (no offence Joe!  Your custom 
 pulls it off better than this Charlie IMO).  I would love to see it just 
 be 
 a roadish version of the new Gus! 

 On Wednesday, 23 August 2023 at 09:59:19 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Right?? 
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230823_095848.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:56:23 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of a certain gray and red Rivendell Custom.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:05:09 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I mean...thats lugged and has a cream headtube. I don't care what 
>>> the decal says, that can't be a Gallop.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:33:36 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 From the Blue Lug instagram post, it seems like a proto Charlie 
 with a straight top tube at RivHQ:

 [image: IMG_1965.jpg]

 [image: IMG_1966.jpg]

 Max

 PS. Apologies for the bad photo quality but it's hard to grab a 
 post from a video in IG.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy]

It's a beauty! And in good hands. 

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:07:33 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> If Justin ever wants his old Chev frame back, he knows where to find me 
> [image: IMG_0441 2.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:43:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> James said likely October before the new ones are in. They're coming in 
>> Sergio Green and Dark Gold, both frames and completes. Unclear specs on the 
>> latter but maybe something similar to Clem completes? I'm going to switch 
>> most of the components from my Clem for the build. Hopefully some pics to 
>> share soon. 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:30:55 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I for one, am glad to hear it. Waiting for the next round of 
>>> Platypuses is probably going to take too long, and it’s still riding season 
>>> NOW. So, I’m thrilled for you and I hope you will post photos and give us 
>>> your thorough review!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2023, at 9:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ended up ordering that 60cm Platy from C Will keep you posted with 
>>> the build etc. Selling my Clem to a friend. Cheers everyone. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:23:53 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Love those green Cheviuts, something about the blue accents really 
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> Justin, best of luck with your search!
>>>>
>>>> jared
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: 12817569245_6446d68d56_b.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That Cheviot is HOT! That bike had one of the best headbadges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as club rides are concerned for and with the Clem, I would 
>>>>>>> say yes, if most everyone in the group is moving at a slow pace. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:28:51 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Doug - I share with you in very similar view points, regarding 
>>>>>>>> riding my Clem, too. I ride solo. I am not in a big hurry to get where 
>>>>>>>> I am 
>>>>>>>> going. I enjoy the ride. Yes, it is a heavy bike. I do not know how 
>>>>>>>> much it 
>>>>>>>> weighs. However, I am not bothered by the weight, because of it is 
>>>>>>>> truly 
>>>>>>>> the most comfortable bicycle for me as a senior cyclist; an upright 
>>>>>>>> riding 
>>>>>>>> position, low gears, a long wheelbase, stable handling and the Bosco 
>>>>>>>> bars 
>>>>>>>> are most ideal. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record, I have no other experience riding any other 
>>>>>>>> Rivendell bicycles to compare my Clem with. I do not feel the need to, 
>>>>>>>> because my Clem suits my needs extraordinarily well. 
>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speed is not an issue for me and my ole Clem as I ride almost 
>>>>>>>>> exclusively solo. My question about Clem/Platypus was again in jest. 
>>>>>>>>> Leah 
>>>>>>>>> has ridden both more than most and so her opinion and comparison has 
>>>>>>>>> credibility to me. That being said, I like the style of the Clem 
>>>>>>>>> better 
>>>>>>>>> which is obviously the most subjective take one can make between two 
>>>>>>>>> bicycles. Me and ole Clem just mosey down the road and whatever speed 
>>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>>> comfortable and have a jolly ole time doing it.
>>>>>>>>> Doug
&g

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy]

James said likely October before the new ones are in. They're coming in 
Sergio Green and Dark Gold, both frames and completes. Unclear specs on the 
latter but maybe something similar to Clem completes? I'm going to switch 
most of the components from my Clem for the build. Hopefully some pics to 
share soon. 

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:30:55 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Well, I for one, am glad to hear it. Waiting for the next round of 
> Platypuses is probably going to take too long, and it’s still riding season 
> NOW. So, I’m thrilled for you and I hope you will post photos and give us 
> your thorough review!
> Leah
>
> On Aug 10, 2023, at 9:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:
>
> Ended up ordering that 60cm Platy from C Will keep you posted with the 
> build etc. Selling my Clem to a friend. Cheers everyone. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:23:53 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Love those green Cheviuts, something about the blue accents really works.
>>
>> Justin, best of luck with your search!
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 12817569245_6446d68d56_b.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> That Cheviot is HOT! That bike had one of the best headbadges.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As far as club rides are concerned for and with the Clem, I would say 
>>>>> yes, if most everyone in the group is moving at a slow pace. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:28:51 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Doug - I share with you in very similar view points, regarding 
>>>>>> riding my Clem, too. I ride solo. I am not in a big hurry to get where I 
>>>>>> am 
>>>>>> going. I enjoy the ride. Yes, it is a heavy bike. I do not know how much 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> weighs. However, I am not bothered by the weight, because of it is truly 
>>>>>> the most comfortable bicycle for me as a senior cyclist; an upright 
>>>>>> riding 
>>>>>> position, low gears, a long wheelbase, stable handling and the Bosco 
>>>>>> bars 
>>>>>> are most ideal. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record, I have no other experience riding any other Rivendell 
>>>>>> bicycles to compare my Clem with. I do not feel the need to, because my 
>>>>>> Clem suits my needs extraordinarily well. 
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speed is not an issue for me and my ole Clem as I ride almost 
>>>>>>> exclusively solo. My question about Clem/Platypus was again in jest. 
>>>>>>> Leah 
>>>>>>> has ridden both more than most and so her opinion and comparison has 
>>>>>>> credibility to me. That being said, I like the style of the Clem better 
>>>>>>> which is obviously the most subjective take one can make between two 
>>>>>>> bicycles. Me and ole Clem just mosey down the road and whatever speed 
>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>> comfortable and have a jolly ole time doing it.
>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Johnny, 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Her Clem and Platypus (the one she uses on club rides) have similar 
>>>>>>>> builds (including the wheelsets) so you can take that out of the 
>>>>>>>> equation. 
>>>>>>>> The frames are not the same, Platy is a lighter-tubed 
>>>>>>>> pavement-oriented 
>>>>>>>> bike patterned after the Sam Hillborne. I'm quite sure she's right 
>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>> head to head the Platy is going to be a bit easier to push hard in a 
>>>>>>>> group, 
>>>>>>>> and it doesn't have to be a major difference to be the difference 
>>>>>>>> be

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy]

> lose the fenders and racks, go to light drops with brifters, even 
>>>>>>>> lighter 
>>>>>>>> wheels (I know that analog and HOW build great wheels that can be 
>>>>>>>> pretty 
>>>>>>>> light but I can bet that it doesn't have less than 32 spokes because 
>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>> focus on really good solid wheels not the absolute lightest), do you 
>>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>>> lights on it?? I can't remember...those would go if they are there. 
>>>>>>>> And at 
>>>>>>>> the end of the day you would still have a slack geometry and LONG 
>>>>>>>> wheelbase 
>>>>>>>> thats not typical go fast geometry. And none of that is being critical 
>>>>>>>> because you know its not ideal in fact I always took your point in all 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> to be that any good bike can be used for that if you want to. There is 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> a world of difference between a Platy and a Clem. The biggest thing is 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> beauty of the frame and the lugs. I don't doubt you felt a difference 
>>>>>>>> but 
>>>>>>>> there are lots of factors that could be coming in to play. People tend 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> put robust wheels on Clems because they are a workhorse and a commuter 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> they treat it as such and tires make sure a huge difference. But it 
>>>>>>>> could 
>>>>>>>> be many things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have light supple wheels set up tubeless on mine with a good 
>>>>>>>> wheelset and I can feel the geometry difference between it and my road 
>>>>>>>> focused Gallop more than anything else. But the geometry difference 
>>>>>>>> between 
>>>>>>>> the Platy and Clem is not that extreme. It was built to be lugless and 
>>>>>>>> affordable not necessarily more robust (although I am sure to a degree 
>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>> is). I would be shocked if there was any major weight difference 
>>>>>>>> between 
>>>>>>>> the two frames when stripped down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:02 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can be shocking! But I had my blue Clem as my only Riv for a 
>>>>>>>>> long time, and I had it set up as best I could with light parts and 
>>>>>>>>> wheels 
>>>>>>>>> and tires and still I was exhausted riding it at speed and up hills. 
>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>> Platy solved that for me, and I had light parts on both and had 
>>>>>>>>> Analog 
>>>>>>>>> build both wheelsets. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried the Clem for a club ride and I’m not lying when I say it 
>>>>>>>>> taxed me. My heart beat so fast with the work I was putting in that I 
>>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>>> throwing PACs. Now, I don’t know your demographics but for a 5’6” 128 
>>>>>>>>> lb 
>>>>>>>>> woman it was work to race that Clem around. There’s nothing lowly 
>>>>>>>>> about a 
>>>>>>>>> Clem and I wouldn’t call the bike slow, either. But it’s not a club 
>>>>>>>>> racer 
>>>>>>>>> by design, and I certainly couldn’t make it into one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Johnny Alien  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am shocked Leahas someone who regularly takes a bike with 
>>>>>>>>> extra weight and a non-ideal gear ranges on club rides I think its 
>>>>>>>>> unfair 
>>>>>>>>> to label th

[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

[Justin Kennedy]

Thanks all! Bones a friend may be reaching out about the wheels  cheers-

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Appreciate the input. To clarify: the wheels will work on any frame with 
> 100/135 spacing. I used them on my Clem for a bit and they worked great.
>
> Bones
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 6:34:29 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Tandem rear wheels typically have 145mm spacing, wider than the typical 
>> 135mm spacing of non-tandem rear wheels, and closer to modern "fat bikes". 
>> Some adaptation may be possible, I don't know.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. A 56 Susie takes a 29" tire. Somebody please correct me if I am 
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry maybe a dumb question but would these work with QR on a 56cm 
>>>> Susie?
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> Bones
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bones, 
>>>>>> What wheel size, please?
>>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front 
>>>>>>> hub with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have machined 
>>>>>>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>>>>>>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to 
>>>>>>> them, 
>>>>>>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures 
>>>>>>> show 
>>>>>>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 shipped 
>>>>>>> (or 
>>>>>>> best offer) lower 48.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>>>>>>> wheels04.jpg]
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

[Justin Kennedy]

Sorry maybe a dumb question but would these work with QR on a 56cm Susie?

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!
>
> Thanks, 
> Bones
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Hi Bones, 
>> What wheel size, please?
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front hub 
>>> with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have machined 
>>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to them, 
>>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures show 
>>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 shipped (or 
>>> best offer) lower 48.
>>>
>>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>>> wheels04.jpg]
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy]

Thanks Leah. I saw that, but was hoping to get one at a used price or to 
trade. Otherwise, I may hold out until the Sergio Green plattys are 
released (September according to the most recent calendar?) 

Like I said, I love my Clem but yes, I miss the Cheviot and am itching for 
something a little different. I rode Will's platypus when I was there last 
summer and really dug it. Seems like every two years I need to change it up 
;-)

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 2:25:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Justin, it says C has one in Canada. I’ve bought from them before, they 
> are the loveliest people. 
>
> [image: rivendell-platypus-pride-o-the-cosmos-t-shirt.jpg]
>
> Cadre Rivendell Platypus Step-Through Countrybike Frame 
> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938=1>
> clcycle.ca 
> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938=1>
>
> <https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html?id=63304938=1>
>
> Leah 
>
> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:18 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I’ll do some digging and see if I can find you one, Justin. But I’m so 
> curious - I know you loved that Clem and you used to have a Cheviot. Are 
> you missing your old Chev? I have both bikes and I find the Platypus far 
> superior to my Clem so I get it. I’ll get to looking…
>
> Leah
>
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:37:27 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Just throwing this out there in case anyone has a 60cm Platty frameset 
>> they're looking to unload or would be up for trading for my 64 Clem (in 
>> Lime Olive). Would pay $$ differential, of course. I love the Clem but got 
>> an itch for something a little different. 
>>
>> Let me know if you'd be interested in discussing, etc. Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy]

Just throwing this out there in case anyone has a 60cm Platty frameset 
they're looking to unload or would be up for trading for my 64 Clem (in 
Lime Olive). Would pay $$ differential, of course. I love the Clem but got 
an itch for something a little different. 

Let me know if you'd be interested in discussing, etc. Thanks!


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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendelli cap - $50 shipped CONUS

[Justin Kennedy]

I’ll take it! Lmk how to pay you. 
On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 9:04:09 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:

> I've held on to this cap for too long without using it. Someone else needs 
> to rock it.
>
> [image: For Sale - 1 of 1.jpeg]
> [image: For Sale - 1 of 1 (1).jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: FS- Mermaid Platypus, 60cm

[Justin Kennedy]

Let  me know if you would be interested in selling just the F/F/HS/BB/seat 
post. 

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:42:54 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Almost new save a couple of small paint chips. Fit me at 84.5 PBH but that 
> is the bottom of the range per Rivendell. Albatross bars, Technomic stem, 
> nice PDW lock on grips with 10 speed bar end shifter in friction mode and 
> shifts very well with new chain and Deore derailler. Nice Thompson 
> seatpost, shiny VO crankset 46/30 with no front derailler- I stick shifted 
> the 1 time I needed the 30- ran in 46 most of the time. Schwalbe G-ones 
> 700x50cm. Wheels are unbranded fairly wide silver hubs and rims and have a 
> freewheel- 8 speed is on now, but up to 10 speed available online. Brakes 
> are shiny Tektro V brakes and avid levers. Seat and pedals are just place 
> holders for your preferred ones. The bike rides very well on pavement and 
> dirt. I ride dirt almost always now and even with fenders, this pretty girl 
> was getting too dirty for me. I never though I would have bike that is too 
> precious, but I do. $2100 plus actual shipping with insurance. I will box 
> and ship, but work and home is very busy- it may take several days to get 
> it ready to ship. I have shipped many bikes over the years and have access 
> to excellent packing materials so she will get to the new owner in good 
> stead. Also on Riv Buy Sell group with more pictures or text me for more- 
> 231-2 zero 6 five 3 zero 3 
>
> Tom Palmer 
> Twin Lake, MI
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[RBW] NYC Area Solstice Campout and Ride - Saturday June 24

[Justin Kennedy]

Hey y'all, my riding group is doing a Solstice Campout on Sat June 24 at 
Mountain Lakes Park in North Salem, NY, right on the border with 
Connecticut. Accessible by Metro-North Railroad from NYC (approximately 8 
miles from Goldens Bridge, closest MNR station) as well as points 
north/east/west. It's pretty much wild camping without many amenities—no 
water, *maybe* a port-o-john if we're lucky—but we somehow snagged the 
large, lakeside group campsite which has a couple of lean-to's, a fire pit, 
and a grill.

We have plenty of extra space, so if anyone would like to join, reply here 
or DM me for deets. Bountiful rolling gravel to explore in the surrounding 
horse farm-dense area, and even some singletrack and trails inside the 
park. 

Cheers,

J. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Clem Smith Jr. L RBW Blue (brand new frameset) $1200

[Justin Kennedy]

Bump. Also willing to trade for a mid-size Appaloosa or Atlantis (53-57-ish 
range).

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 8:44:44 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> ::: Selling this for a friend, so any queries will be forwarded to him. :::
>
> Brand new Clem Smith Jr. L 59cm in RBW Blue. Never built up or ridden. 
> Includes Riv-standard seat post, BB, and headset. Asking $1200. Local 
> pickup in NYC or willing to ship (buyer pays packing and shipping costs). 
>
> This is the only photo he sent me but it's a standard Clem L.  
> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-2023-live-april-21st-at-noon-pacific-1>
>
> [image: 344617744_255810423522580_7675088577621480896_n.jpg]
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[RBW] FS: 59cm Clem Smith Jr. L RBW Blue (brand new frameset) $1200

[Justin Kennedy]

::: Selling this for a friend, so any queries will be forwarded to him. :::

Brand new Clem Smith Jr. L 59cm in RBW Blue. Never built up or ridden. 
Includes Riv-standard seat post, BB, and headset. Asking $1200. Local 
pickup in NYC or willing to ship (buyer pays packing and shipping costs). 

This is the only photo he sent me but it's a standard Clem L.  


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[RBW] Re: Clickers for Jim cassettes

[Justin Kennedy]

>From https://www.rivbike.com/products/cassettes-7 :


*Jim 7 speed cassettes, made by former SRAM people in China*

Backstory Stuff: On getting these from China; and indexing with these

When SRAM took its manufacturing from China to Taiwan, probably but who are 
we to say, to avoid the raised tariffs, it left a colony of Chinese 
designers, engineers, marketers, and assembly people out of work but still 
chock full of skills and rarin' to go again. Out of the original batch came 
at least three new brands: MicroNew, S-Ride, and Sensah, each with its own 
areas of specialization. For 27 years we sold nothing made in China. COVID 
has made it impossible to source only from Japan or Taiwan while continue 
equipping bicycles on time and with the kind of stuff we like. We have 
nurtured what seems to be a good relationship with some Chinese vendors, 
and guess what--if they can make Apple products, they can make bike parts. 
Equally, they're eager to do so, at a time when most Taiwan vendor will 
laugh your pants off and tell you to leave the room if you want something 
new, even if it's right up their alley, and furthermore, if you want it 
within three years. These 7-speed cassettes are made by S-Ride.

INDEXING

We're not an R lab, but we dissect things and learn about them deeply, 
from a bike rider's and bike mechanic's perspective, and purely as a matter 
of curiosity, Vince and Rich here combines brains and discovered how to 
make 9-speed indexed shifters work seemingly perfectly with these 7s 
cassettes. The following instructions are intended for those with 
mechanical skills and sufficient experience with fussy indexed drivetrains.

Here's all you do, baby: Put the chain in top gear (big front, small rear), 
with the big paddle fresh and the cable loose. Click twice, essentially 
wasting the first two clicks. THEN tighten and snug the cable,  The next 
seven clicks seem to shift perfectly. Your results may vary, but it worked 
great here. We still recommend these for friction shifting...or if you 
happen to have some dusty, cruddy, eBay'd 7s indexed shifters, try them.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:26:30 AM UTC-4 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:

> So what's the lowdown on S-Ride? Are they the manufacturer of the new Riv 
> 7s cassettes? And how does their stuff compare to other budget drivetrain 
> options like SunRace & Microshift?
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:57:54 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> S-Ride stuff is great for the price! Admittedly I just started working 
>> for Jim at Merry Sales/Soma Fab so take that with a grain of salt…
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:18:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I mentioned this on my immediately irrelevant "Double 1x" thread cuz I 
>>> pulled that drivetrain, but nobody's going to read it there. You can read 
>>> it here! 
>>>
>>> If friction isn't your thing but you like the idea of those 7-speed Jim 
>>> cassettes, S Ride makes a cheap and functional trigger shifter for it. Save 
>>> weight and money with a plastic shifter! 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clickers for Jim cassettes

[Justin Kennedy]

I'm using a $15 Shimano 7speed trigger from eBay with my Jim 13-42 7speed 
and it's working great. 

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 2:04:21 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Ha! I love that set up. I have full friction on my Riv but friction front 
> and indexed rear on my Soma which is pleasant and very, very easy to use. 
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 10:19:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> It's so...*normal. *My fancy schmancy custom now has a 
>> click-rear/friction-front 7-speed drivetrain just like my bikes from 30 
>> years ago! I'm kinda surprised how much I like it. 
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> S-Ride stuff is great for the price! Admittedly I just started working 
>>> for Jim at Merry Sales/Soma Fab so take that with a grain of salt…
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:18:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I mentioned this on my immediately irrelevant "Double 1x" thread cuz I 
 pulled that drivetrain, but nobody's going to read it there. You can read 
 it here! 

 If friction isn't your thing but you like the idea of those 7-speed Jim 
 cassettes, S Ride makes a cheap and functional trigger shifter for it. 
 Save 
 weight and money with a plastic shifter! 




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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Gus, 54cm
$5,500
Brooklyn, NY
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html

(it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Roadini, 61cm
> $2400, Orange!
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>
> Romulus, 24"
> $850
> Bellingham, WA
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>
> Legolas, 59cm
> $3400
> Portland, OR area
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>
> Atlantis, 61cm
> $2500
> Port Townsend, WA
>
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>
> Appaloosa, 56cm
> $2000
> Portland, OR
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Recommendations Pls?

[Justin Kennedy]

I routinely switch back and forth b/t an upright bar with a long stem 
(Uncle Ron's Ortho Bars lately) and Wavies with a stubbie stem, and really 
dig both set ups. Very different feels but both super comfy. 

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 4:22:40 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> Have you considered the Losco? I borrowed one and found it a nice low 
> compromise to the Tosco and both way flatter than the Bosco.
>
> On Apr 21, 2023, at 13:19, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> 
>
> You know, my old Dutch riding buddy Hans Der Barrs! He was fast in his 
> day...
>
> Actually I'm currently using a set of Boscos on my Platypus, lovely & 
> upright but due to my Piriformis issues I feel like I need to be a little 
> more canted forward to take some pressure off the sit bones.
>
> The choices out there are overwhelming quite frankly. Maybe the Wavie but 
> IDK, what do you think?
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L frameset

[Justin Kennedy]

Not big on the "look ma, no hands!" thing in general, but it's completely 
doable, if a little wobbly, with a load. Mine is a 2021 (prob obvious from 
the color). I ride mostly on urban streets but get it on gravel, dirt, and 
chunky cobbles somewhat routinely and even some single track every once in 
a while. It handles spectacularly on all.

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:

> Justin- are you able to ride no-handed withe basket/bag/weight on the 
> front? I know the Geo changed between 2019 and 2021, mainly reach, TT 
> Length, and the slacker HT. I admittiley like the longer length and the 
> look of the 69 degree HT A, vs the older 71.5. I know looks don't matter 
> when you ride, but curious what you've noticed when riding. I plan to ride 
> the Clem i buy 70% on road and 30% on dirt roads, with very little single 
> track. Mostly city but with a basket- essentially the exact build you have. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 9:44:32 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Crust/Ronsbikes Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars. highly recommended if 
>> you can find a set. 
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:43 AM Graham McCall  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin Kennedy- what bars are you using on that Clem? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:28:56 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a couple. I'm 6'3" with a 91 PBH so you can see how it fits me 
>>>> re: saddle height and bars etc.  In case it isn't obvious, in the second 
>>>> pic with 2 Clems, mine is on the left. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: justin-clem.PNG]
>>>> [image: DSC00148.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Care to send a pic of your Clem Justin? Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 8:55:42 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham, I saw your other WTB post and thought I'd chime in. I have a 
>>>>>> similar PBH (91) and ride a 64 Clem as my daily commuter and love it. It 
>>>>>> fits great, so I think this would work for you. Hopefully it's still 
>>>>>> avail.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul- is this still available??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last call for this frameset. $875 plus shipping. Thanks, Paul
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L frameset

[Justin Kennedy]

Crust/Ronsbikes Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars. highly recommended if you
can find a set.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:43 AM Graham McCall 
wrote:

> Justin Kennedy- what bars are you using on that Clem?
>
> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 11:28:56 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Here's a couple. I'm 6'3" with a 91 PBH so you can see how it fits me re:
>> saddle height and bars etc.  In case it isn't obvious, in the second pic
>> with 2 Clems, mine is on the left.
>>
>> [image: justin-clem.PNG]
>> [image: DSC00148.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:
>>
>>> Care to send a pic of your Clem Justin? Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 8:55:42 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Graham, I saw your other WTB post and thought I'd chime in. I have a
>>>> similar PBH (91) and ride a 64 Clem as my daily commuter and love it. It
>>>> fits great, so I think this would work for you. Hopefully it's still
>>>> avail.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul- is this still available??
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Last call for this frameset. $875 plus shipping. Thanks, Paul
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L frameset

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Graham, I saw your other WTB post and thought I'd chime in. I have a 
similar PBH (91) and ride a 64 Clem as my daily commuter and love it. It 
fits great, so I think this would work for you. Hopefully it's still 
avail.  

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:

> Paul- is this still available??
>
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>
>> Last call for this frameset. $875 plus shipping. Thanks, Paul
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Justin Kennedy]

Ah I was hoping for a set in black so gonna have to pass. Thanks tho.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:11 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:

>
> I have one in silver. Brand new. I purchased it new and was waiting for a
> frame to come along. I wouldn’t mind keeping it but I could be talked into
> letting it go as I don’t see getting a new frame anytime soon. I’d like to
> get what I initially paid ($130) plus shipping. (I paid shipping/taxes on
> top of that).  Let me know if anyone is in need of one.
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 9:54:56 AM UTC-6 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very
>> interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy,
>>> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on
>>> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with
>>> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I
>>> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a
>>>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail
>>>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to
>>>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.
>>>>> I wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on 
>>>>> a
>>>>> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a
>>>>> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, 
>>>>> they
>>>>> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them
>>>>> if you don't want bar end shifters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going
>>>>> to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's
>>>>> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like
>>>>> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the
>>>>> exact same geometry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy
>>>>> with broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal 
>>>>> grip
>>>>> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or 
>>>>> so
>>>>> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the
>>>>> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a
>>>>> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able
>>>>>> to track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real
>>>>>> thought and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to 
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> others thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to
>>>>>> switch out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you
>>>>>> set them up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and for reference, here they are:
>>>>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very 
interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy, 
> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on 
> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with 
> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I 
> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>
> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
>>> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
>>> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
>>> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
>>> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
>>> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>>>
>>> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going 
>>> to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
>>> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
>>> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
>>> exact same geometry.
>>>
>>> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
>>> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
>>> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
>>> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
>>> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
>>> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>>>
>>> Let us know what you think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
 track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real 
 thought 
 and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
 thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
 out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set 
 them 
 up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?

 Thanks all!

 Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
 https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifter Question

[Justin Kennedy]

Awesome, this is the answer I was hoping for. Thanks JJ!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:16 AM J J  wrote:

> Hi Justin. You can definitely mix and match. You can use pretty much any
> Shimano trigger shifter with any Shimano rear derailleur as long as the
> number of shifter speeds corresponds to the number of cassette gears. There
> are a few exceptions, like vintage Shimano or too low or too high number of
> speeds. But for the stuff Rivendell sells, the various shifters are
> compatible with the various derailleurs. They do not have to be part of the
> same group. The derailleurs themselves don't care about which mechanism is
> actuating the cable travel. Just be sure the number of speeds on the
> shifters matches the number of cassette sprockets: 8-speed shifter with
> 8-speed cassette, 9-speed shifter with 9-speed cassette, etc. for proper
> indexing. And if you happen to run the trigger shifter with a Rapid Rise
> derailleur, the numbers on the shifter indicators will be reversed relative
> to non-Rapid Rise (1 will be 9, 2 will be 8, etc.), but otherwise the
> shifting will function the same.
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:39:21 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I've always used friction shifters but am thinking about putting a
>> trigger shifter on a new cargo bike build. So apologies in advance if this
>> is a stupid question, but...Do you have to use the corresponding rear
>> derailleur/groupset for a particular shifter? Or can you mix and match?
>>
>> For instance, Riv sells 5-6 different shifters
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg> (Sora, Alivio, Acera,
>> Altus, Claris, etc.). If I buy, say, the Altus, can I only use it with an
>> Altus RD?
>>
>> Thanks in advance-
>>
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[RBW] Trigger Shifter Question

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've always used friction shifters but am thinking about putting a trigger 
shifter on a new cargo bike build. So apologies in advance if this is a 
stupid question, but...Do you have to use the corresponding rear 
derailleur/groupset for a particular shifter? Or can you mix and match? 

For instance, Riv sells 5-6 different shifters 
 (Sora, Alivio, Acera, 
Altus, Claris, etc.). If I buy, say, the Altus, can I only use it with an 
Altus RD? 

Thanks in advance-

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crust Harvey Mushman Bars?

[Justin Kennedy]

This is super helpful, thanks for sending! I would def prefer the
Crumbworks bar but as you mentioned they’re hard/impossible to find right
now. I’m second guessing myself on the Mushmans bc I want more backsweep.
These pics really helped thanks again!

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:36 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I put the 24 deg Mushmans on my latest build (Crust Wombat) which I've
> ridden only about 65 miles on so far, largely pavement but also some
> trails.  It's a great all-rounder bar if you want something that feels like
> a MTB bar but more comfortable.  I cut mine down to 740mm for reference.
>
> Another bar to look at is the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar.  It's got more
> sweep, 39 deg, a bit less rise but still a decent amount.  I think it's a
> bit hard to find at this moment but maybe it'll be restocked again soon?
>  Photo of each attached (KT on the green bike, if not entirely evident
> already).
>
> Both have a pretty good wrist feel for me, nothing bad to say about either
> bar.
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[RBW] Crust Harvey Mushman Bars?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm looking for some bars for a new cargo bike build (Surly Big Dummy) and 
was intrigued when I saw Will was using Crust's Harvey Mushman bars 
 on his new tandem 
. 

Does anyone have experience with these bars, particularly the 24 degree 
backsweep version? I think I would want to cut them down to 680-ish rather 
than the stock 800mm as that seems entirely too wide for urban riding. I'm 
also concerned about getting enough backsweep. Assuming I"ll use a stubby 
stem (50mm or shorter). 

Would love to hear your thoughts if you've used these bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'll give a mildly enthusiastic recommendation for the Blue Lug/Fairweather 
poncho. I use it anytime I need to ride in the rain and it does a pretty 
good job. It's not great for windy rain conditions, but I doubt any poncho 
would be. Someone above mentioned they're low vis colors, which is true, 
but you can spruce it up with some reflective material/tape without doing 
damage to the waterproof fabric. 

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:48:13 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I have the Grundens poncho and fishing hat. I looked on the Grundens 
> website and could not find the poncho, but they still have the hat. I also 
> have the MUSA splats. I was ready to order the gaiters, but they never 
> reappeared on the Rive website (this was a few years ago).
> The poncho works great on the bicycle (with fenders) - I love the thumb 
> loops and visibility of the yellow. I have also worn the poncho and hat at 
> an outdoor rain or shine concert sitting in a big folding chair - the 
> poncho was big enough to keep the chair dry as well.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:07:46 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Not to rub it in, but yes, the Riv Grundens poncho is the best ever. So 
>> sorry they do not have them any more. Maybe they need to do  another run, 
>> but I am sure then they would be $$$.
>>
>> I have the Grundens, but also have a Vaude Valdipino 
>>  
>> that is very easy to stash somewhere (I keep one at work) in case something 
>> comes up.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:41:16 PM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>>> Love my cleverhood.  It stays in the bottom of the Wald on my Hunq and 
>>> is there when I need it.  Highly recommended, and they have sales often.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:59:04 PM UTC-6 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Oh wow, the Blue Lug poncho is designed to be draped over handlebars or 
 even a front basket, while still keeping the hands free to (maybe) signal.

 https://youtu.be/fLS69h0YwZA?t=194



 On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
 wrote:

> Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
> carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to 
>> sell. They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
>> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
>> beat. 
>>
>> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said 
>> he'd see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. 
>> I 
>> assume not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if 
>> something 
>> happens to it though!
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>>
>>> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I 
>>> use a rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles 
>>> link 
>>> below).  I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers 
>>> them? Sadly the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ 
>>> years 
>>> out of them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>>>
>>> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I 
 forgot about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 
 (
 https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
  
 It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my 
 friends 
 were amazed that I had good things to say.

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:

> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>
> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice 
> waxed canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish 
> they 
> came in high viz colors/designs. 
> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>
>
>
> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>
> [image: yehuda.gif]
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I can assure you that 

[RBW] Re: WTB Albatross Bar, NYC area

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Sounds like the Albatrosses currently housed on a Clem, so not available at 
the moment. Let me know if you change your mind about the Boscos!

J. 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:36:53 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> JS - Yeah, Mass would be a stretch and I figured shipping would cost more 
> than its worth for used bars. Thanks for reaching out.
>
> Justin - Hey that'd be great if the albatross end up being available. 
> There's someone else local checking their parts bin today for me. I'm a bit 
> dead set on going albatross, bosco's would sweep back a little too much I 
> think and id miss that little forward bend of the albas.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:54:34 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> I'm in Brooklyn and may have a pair. But i think I loaned them to a 
>> friend. Let me see if he's still using them. If not, they're yours. 
>>
>> I def have a pair of CroMo Boscos that are the same width (55cm), just a 
>> little more rise and uprightedness. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen, I an in Massachusetts so a bit far.  I have the cro mo version 
>>> I am no longer using.  Shipping is a bit high on a box to fit (if I could 
>>> find one). 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been wanting to switch to less wide bar for city riding, anybody local 
>>>> have one they might like to sell? Thought Id check before I eventually end 
>>>> up ordering from riv.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for lookin!
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Albatross Bar, NYC area

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Hi Stephen,

I'm in Brooklyn and may have a pair. But i think I loaned them to a friend. 
Let me see if he's still using them. If not, they're yours. 

I def have a pair of CroMo Boscos that are the same width (55cm), just a 
little more rise and uprightedness. 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Stephen, I an in Massachusetts so a bit far.  I have the cro mo version I 
> am no longer using.  Shipping is a bit high on a box to fit (if I could 
> find one). 
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Been wanting to switch to less wide bar for city riding, anybody local 
>> have one they might like to sell? Thought Id check before I eventually end 
>> up ordering from riv.
>>
>> Thanks for lookin!
>>
>> Stephen
>>
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[RBW] WTT: my Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge for your Teravail Sparwood (29 x 2.2)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Looking to trade my Rene Herse tan sidewall Fleecer Ridge (29 x 2.2 aka 
700c x 55) for a pair of all black Teravail Sparwood 29 x 2.2 Durable black 
casing. Casing on the Herses is "Endurance Plus (Dark Tan)". Low mileage 
and in great condition. Would expect the same on the trade.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700c-x-55-fleecer-ridge/

https://teravail.com/products/sparwood-tire?variant=39350966091827

A specific request, I know! I'm also willing to sell the Renes if I don't 
get any trade offers. Currently mounted tubeless on a pair of Velocity 
Cliffhangers with a Shimano dynamo (also possibly for sale if price is 
right for local NYC pickup only). 

Cheers!


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[RBW] WTB - Shimano Rapid Rise RD

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm more curious than anything, so I don't want to spend a ton of money on 
it. But when I was at Riv a few months ago, I rode one of Will's bikes with 
a Rapid Rise RD and really enjoyed it. Does anyone have one for sale by 
chance?

Thanks-

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Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I got it mounted properly and the ambient humidity has dropped considerably 
here over the last two days. Still moisture inside the light and it's not 
work at all. But I may take it off the bike and try to submerge in a bag of 
rice or silica gel. Not high hopes for it, though. 

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:37:45 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Or, mount it correctly and sit it out in the sun for a while (keeping 
> close watch over the bike, since you *are* in Brooklyn). See what the 
> moisture situation looks like after it’s had a day to dry out.
>
>
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>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:12 AM, 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> In addition to mounting it properly, I would remove and submerge it in 
> some silica gel/rice/etc to try and draw out as much moisture as possible.
>  
>
> To my mind, continuing to use it w/internal moisture increases the odds of 
> a short and/or more significant damage.
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:12:56 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
>> guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
>> this helps. Thanks guys!
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
>>> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
>>> Peter Whites site:
>>>
>>> [image: B]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>>>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>>>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try 
>>>> to 
>>>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>>>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when 
>>>> the 
>>>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>>>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
this helps. Thanks guys!

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
> Peter Whites site:
>
> [image: B]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>
>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've had good experience with several budget Shimano hubs (never any 
issues) as well as the Panasonic hub, which I have on a cargo bike that 
sits outside year-round in rain/snow/heat/humidity. You can get them from 
Peter White and maybe some other places, too. 

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/panahub.php

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 9:09:10 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have Velogical dynamo on my Sam Hillborne.  Love its elegance and the 
> fact that I didn't have to change my front wheel and hub when I wanted to 
> add dynamo lighting.  One other con to consider is the potential for 
> slipping when riding in wet conditions.  The  Velogical has provided 
> adequate light even when wet however.  Tim Petersen
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:19:02 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Jason:
>>
>> You’ll hear many opinions—good luck sifting through the advice you will 
>> get!
>>
>> I have both SON and Shutter Precision hubs and have not had any issues 
>> with either. My SONs have ranged from the old-style type with flanges 
>> pressed onto a center piece to the modern (and very pretty) type. I have 
>> several variations of the SP hubs on various bikes.
>>
>> If money is no object, definitely go with SON, if only because they’re so 
>> darn pretty. SP will perform just as well—I have not experienced the 
>> “roughness” that one other respondent reported.
>>
>> Based on what I’ve read about SON and their weather sealing, the biggest 
>> advantage that I know of is that they are pressure compensated; SP hubs are 
>> not. That means that if you go from a warm, dry environment directly into a 
>> cold and dry one, the SON hubs won’t draw in moisture as the air inside the 
>> hub cools. SP hubs might, but for this to be a problem, you would have to 
>> roll right out into a cold downpour. That’s an edge case for me and 
>> something that has never been a problem.
>>
>> Finally … Have you considered the Velogical dynamo? I have one on an Alex 
>> Singer, and it’s great. Pros: Cheaper than a dyno hub and wheel, very low 
>> draw, ZERO drag in the “off” position, great German engineering, works with 
>> any wheel. Cons: Sits outside on the frame, where it might be subject to 
>> damage (not a problem for me in several years of use), makes a quiet 
>> whirring noise when running, requires a small clamp to attach to the frame.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 11:59 PM, Jason Glenn  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> I've never had a bike with a dyno hub but rode one a few months back -- 
>> thanks, Max! -- and have decided to build up a wheel -- my first wheel 
>> build, too -- with one for an Atlantis.  I know the Son 28 is the go to, 
>> and I could be convinced to use one, but I'm working on a limited budget 
>> and am wondering what people think about the alternatives out there.  My 
>> main use for the Atlantis, at least at the moment, will be commuting, 
>> running erands, etc., but I'm trying to bike as my principle form of 
>> transportation (in Los Angeles) and will be riding in the evenings and 
>> early mornings with some regularity.  Down the road, I would like to do 
>> some touring on it.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm interested in any and all suggestions/perspectives.  
>>
>> Thanks, in advance,
>> jason
>>
>> P.s. While I'm at it, happy to hear about favorite rims and spokes for 
>> the build...
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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy]

Late notice but a few folks are meeting at Grand Army Plaza at 1p today to
pedal around the park and then get tacos and beer. Meet behind the farmers
market near the entrance to the park. HMU - 347-325-2640.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:06 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No tandemming with Justin for Father's day = Bummer
> Probably better as I'm an iffy captain at best... (Tandem is on the sale
> block anyhows (know anybody?))
> And Hello Todd of Ditmas!
> I still hope there can be a big ride, but Father's day has put a damper on
> my ability to step away from the fam for a few hours on Sunday. Father's
> day, and a huge slice through the tread and sidewall of my new 33's on the
> Ram, and the Rosco in pieces on the floor, and and and...  excuses I know.
> I still want to have that brazing party in my yard, the one where we add
> weird bits to odd spots on your bikes while drinking beers and
> trampolining.
> Let's party!
> -Kai
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 10:57:50 PM UTC-4 Todd Ferguson wrote:
>
>> Hi folks-
>>
>> I'm Todd from Ditmas Park. I commute daily to midtown along Kent on my
>> Atlantis but would love to cruise around with like minded folks on some
>> weekend mornings. I did have the pleasure of bumping into Kai once on his
>> Mountain Mixte and riding down first avenue with him. Would love to meet
>> the rest of you!
>>
>> -Todd
>>
>> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 8:54:25 PM UTC-4 Brendan McLaughlin wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Minh and the rest of the gang!
>>>
>>> I'm in South Slope with a Clem H and would love to meet up for a ride
>>> some time! I'm out of town 6/18 and 6/19 but would love to do a ride on
>>> another weekend this Summer. Thanks for getting this going!
>>>
>>> -Brendan
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:57:55 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>
>>>> oof Justin, good catch.  Saturday is out for me too, but i could do
>>>> Sunday and prefer on the early-ish side, hopefull that leaves things open
>>>> enough for other activities later in the day.  I'll leave that option up
>>>> for further discussion over the next week or so and we can try and lock it
>>>> in next week?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 1:19:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just realized that Sunday is Father's Day, so probably no go for
>>>>> me
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a
>>>>>> long shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
>>>>>> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger,
>>>>>> music performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open though!
>>>>>> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to
>>>>>> their frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if
>>>>>>> I can make it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patch
>>>>>>>> E. Wburg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy
>>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to
>>>>>>>>> you guys. Later preferable for me too, Kai.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7
>>>>>>>>>> <—ft. Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti
>>>>>>>>>> That’s an always f

[RBW] WTB: 26.0 Quill Stem for Ron's Ortho Bars

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Does anyone have a spare/extra 26.0 clamp quill stem with decent reach 
(~90-110mm)? Preferably Nitto Tallux or Technomic. This is for a temporary 
bar set up with some Ron's Ortho Bars, so I don't necessarily want to buy a 
brand  new stem. Thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy]

Just realized that Sunday is Father's Day, so probably no go for me

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a long
> shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, music
> performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open though!
> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to their
> frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:
>
>> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I can
>> make it.
>>
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> E. Wburg
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you
>>>> guys. Later preferable for me too, Kai.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft.
>>>>> Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti
>>>>> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to
>>>>> do a later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to 
>>>>> see
>>>>> out there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that
>>>>>> ride!
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th,
>>>>>> so proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to 
>>>>>> join?
>>>>>> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.
>>>>>>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be
>>>>>>> willing to go higher depending on the space, how many other people join,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project,
>>>>>>>> mentioned above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought
>>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have
>>>>>>>> something specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how 
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> they would be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in 
>>>>>>>> limiting
>>>>>>>> the options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no 
>>>>>>>> obligations at
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V.
>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base
>>>>>>>>> feel that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenh

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy]

I could probably do Sunday. Kai, can we ride your tandem? ;-)

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a long
> shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, music
> performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open though!
> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to their
> frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:
>
>> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I can
>> make it.
>>
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> E. Wburg
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you
>>>> guys. Later preferable for me too, Kai.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft.
>>>>> Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti
>>>>> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to
>>>>> do a later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to 
>>>>> see
>>>>> out there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that
>>>>>> ride!
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th,
>>>>>> so proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to 
>>>>>> join?
>>>>>> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.
>>>>>>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be
>>>>>>> willing to go higher depending on the space, how many other people join,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project,
>>>>>>>> mentioned above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought
>>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have
>>>>>>>> something specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how 
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> they would be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in 
>>>>>>>> limiting
>>>>>>>> the options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no 
>>>>>>>> obligations at
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V.
>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base
>>>>>>>>> feel that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love
>>&g

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy]

I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you guys.
Later preferable for me too, Kai.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft.
> Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti
> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to do a
> later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to see out
> there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that ride!
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>
>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>>
>> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, so
>> proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to join?
>> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.
>>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing to
>>> go higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned
>>>> above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have something
>>>> specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much they would
>>>> be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in limiting the
>>>> options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations at all.
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel
>>>>> that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that
>>>>>> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
>>>>>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space
>>>>>> to set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff.
>>>>>> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike.
>>>>>> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh),
>>>>>> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a
>>>>>> nap, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  (sorry if this is a double send).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent
>>>>>>> number!   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this
>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>>>>>>> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can 
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form
>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM U

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

gt;>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 
>>>>>>>>> years ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact 
>>>>>>>>> I’ve 
>>>>>>>>> bought and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask 
>>>>>>>>> names! 
>>>>>>>>> We could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or 
>>>>>>>>> sell, 
>>>>>>>>> could be fun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming 
>>>>>>>>> from Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>>>>>>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was 
>>>>>>>>> there on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my 
>>>>>>>>> new old 
>>>>>>>>> Ram rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>>>>>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>>>>>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it 
>>>>>>>>>> next week or another day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stephen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>>>>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, 
>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Williamsburg yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was 
>>>>>>>>>>> on an 
>>>>>>>>>>> orange Cheviot headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped 
>>>>>>>>>>> chatting, 
>>>>>>>>>>> someone on an orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone 
>>>>>>>>>>> else in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs 
>>>>>>>>>>> around NYC. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenha

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

 NY <
>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>>>>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>>>>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was 
>>>>>>> there on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new 
>>>>>>> old 
>>>>>>> Ram rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>>>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>>>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next 
>>>>>>>> week or another day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>>>>>>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange 
>>>>>>>>> Cheviot 
>>>>>>>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on 
>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the 
>>>>>>>>> Google 
>>>>>>>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>>>>>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bay 
>>>>>>>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bridge. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else could.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer 
>>>>>>>>>>>> garden in Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>&

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I could probably do next Wednesday. Alan, let me know if you need a 
wheelset for the new Chev. I have a fairly new Alex Adventurer 2 set with a 
Shimano dynamo up front and Deore on the rear. Currently just sitting in 
the closet. Handbuilt by Honey Wheels in Brooklyn. 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, 
> I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and 
> sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could 
> each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be 
> fun.
>
> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
> Alan
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
>> or another day.
>>
>> stephen
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, got it.
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>>>>>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>>>>>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>>>>>> your helmet inside :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>>>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>>>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>>>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>>>>>> e.g. 
>>>>>> "riding to b

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.

Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
> Say 4 or 5ish?
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>
>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>> everyone else could.
>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> UWS
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>
>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
>>> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
>>> helmet inside :)
>>>
>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>
>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>
>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
>>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>>>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>>
>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>>>>>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>>>>>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>>>>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
&g

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 

Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
> everyone else could.
> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>
> Alan
> UWS
>
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
> helmet inside :)
>
> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
> ft tilden into town.
>
> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
> and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>
> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
> light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>
>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>
>>> -stephen
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>>>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
>>>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>>>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
>>>>>>> rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
>>>>>>> organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
>>>>>>> keep 
>>>>>>> connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
>>>>>>> way 
>>>>>>> back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest 
>>>>>>> park 
>>>>>>> yesterday while the weather was nice. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>>>>>>>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. 
>>>>>>>> Ram’s in the spa)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sl

[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
biking in the Gunks this weekend. 

One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. 
> who else is up for it?
>
> -stephen
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.

 Michael


 On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
> rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
> organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
> keep 
> connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
> way 
> back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park 
> yesterday while the weather was nice. 
>
> -stephen
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s 
>> in the spa)
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the 
>>> list of 
>>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>>>
>>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>>> Alan / UWS /
>>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>>
>>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As 
>>> far 
>>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>>
>>> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to 
>>> jump in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a 
>>> smaller thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>>>
>>> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring 
>>> that new Ram!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!

 On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 
 chase@gmail.com wrote:

> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I 
> am in Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
>
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing 
>> that I live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group 
>> comes 
>> over to the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's 
>> always 
>> nice meeting like minded people.
>>
>> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade 
>> weaved basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>
>>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two 
>>> kids and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river 
>>> to Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. 
>>> From 
>>> there we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then 
>>> weave 
>>> our way down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge 

[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem L complete

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Sweet bike! Just noticed your state/zip code - I'm born & raised in 
Abingdon but haven't lived there since heading off for college. Maybe I can 
take it for a spin next time I'm in town. 

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-5 psc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still have the Clem!   
>
> Also open to parting out to make frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket/ seat 
> post available as well! 
>
> Offers welcome!  
>
> psc...@gmail.com 
>
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brass Bits?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Yes, absolutely. 

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The more important message regarding Blue Lug and other "distant" online 
> sellers, is to remind yourself to add all the fun little bits whenever you 
> are buying the bigger bits.  Absolutely every time I order something from 
> Rivendell, I try hard to remind myself what tiny things that may have 
> caught my eye: silver shifter plastic washers, brass ferrules, a roll of 
> newbaums, a hillibike sticker, etc.  Blue Lug has TONS of really great 
> stuff, just remember to add brass bits next time it's worth the effort.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 9:01:14 AM UTC-8 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I love the look of the brass dust crank cap on Antonio's Susie build 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/antonios-susie>, which got me 
>> searching for where to source it. I see Velo Orange used to stock these but 
>> are currently sold out. And I know Blue Lug 
>> <https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-brass-crank-cap.html> has them in 
>> stock but it seems kinda crazy to order such a small part from Japan. 
>>
>> Does anyone know of other sources? What other similar brass bits elevate 
>> a bike?
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Brass Bits?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I love the look of the brass dust crank cap on Antonio's Susie build 
, which got me searching 
for where to source it. I see Velo Orange used to stock these but are 
currently sold out. And I know Blue Lug 
 has them in 
stock but it seems kinda crazy to order such a small part from Japan. 

Does anyone know of other sources? What other similar brass bits elevate a 
bike?


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[RBW] Front Derailleur Recommendation for 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a specific front derailleur for my 
64 Clem. I took it to a local bike shop and they weren't entirely sure what 
FD to install/order b/c of the granny gear. I have a Silver 38/24 wide/low 
double with 9 Speed 12-36t on the rear. I'd prefer something simple, cheap, 
and easy, of course. Thanks in advance! 

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Thunder Burt // 29 x 2.1" // Pair // New/Never Used // $70 shipped

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I got a good deal on these, but meant to order the 2.25" version. Brand 
new, never unfolded or mounted. Folding bead, tubeless ready, etc. Compound 
is "TLR PaceStar." 

$70 shipped for the pair or $65 local pickup NYC. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Canti Levers // Black // Pair // $110 shipped

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

SOLD. Thanks

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:43:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Lightly used, a couple small scratches. $110 shipped (USPS Priority Mail) 
> or $100 local pickup NYC. 
>
> [image: FullSizeRender.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Front Derailleur Clamp Size for 64 cm Clem L

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone know what front derailleur clamp size I would need  to get for a 
64cm Clem L? Thanks-

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

FYI I was able to find a set of Toscos on here via a very generous seller. 
Thanks, Gill!

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Yikes!! I didn't look at shipping. Yeah that would take it out of the 
> running for me too. Good luck!
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Just calculated shipping and it's $55 minimum. So that's $78 + $55 =. 
>> almost 2x more than it would be new from Riv including shipping. I think 
>> I'll wait and see if someone responds here with a use set or wait for Riv 
>> to restock. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:55:50 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I just looked and yes it was CL Cycle. Two people bought Billie bars 
>>> there with no issues.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:54:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that might be the place were some folks bought Billie bars. I 
>>>> know they got them from Canada.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers 
>>>>> selling these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they 
>>>>> legit? 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
>>>>>> price. 
>>>>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to 
>>>>>>> part with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without 
>>>>>>> buying a new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Just calculated shipping and it's $55 minimum. So that's $78 + $55 =. 
almost 2x more than it would be new from Riv including shipping. I think 
I'll wait and see if someone responds here with a use set or wait for Riv 
to restock. 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:55:50 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I just looked and yes it was CL Cycle. Two people bought Billie bars there 
> with no issues.
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:54:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think that might be the place were some folks bought Billie bars. I 
>> know they got them from Canada.
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers 
>>> selling these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they legit? 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
>>>> price. 
>>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to 
>>>>> part with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without 
>>>>> buying a new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers selling 
these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they legit? 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
> price. 
> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to part 
>> with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without buying a 
>> new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. Thanks!
>
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[RBW] WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to part 
with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without buying a 
new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Clem L frames live 3et 8/12/21

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Andrew, what parts were you hoarding for it? I snagged a 64 Lime Olive and 
have pretty much everything I need but might want some different bars than 
I had in mind (was gonna use the Wavies from my Cheviot but something with 
a little more backsweep might be better). Also have a friend looking for a 
bunch of parts. LMK!

On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> I immediately called Riv in shock. I was to the second and I just can't 
> believe the cart doesn't hold an item for 20 seconds to finalize. I also 
> called some dealers and was told that no dealer has any. I would love to be 
> proved wrong. The second issue is it seems dealers only will sell if you do 
> a build thru them. Since I already have a ton of parts i've bought, it 
> wouldn't make financial sense. 
> COVID sucks big time
>
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 3:40:35 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Andrew, call the dealers!!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Huston  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Truly unbelievable. Gone in less than a minute I think. I so badly 
>> wanted a lime olive and had it in cart to the last button click, then poof. 
>> Gone. 
>>
>> If anyone is sourcing parts I have a nice heap that seem to be useless 
>> now. 
>> Really hoping for a miracle. Let me know if you bought one and change 
>> your mind. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:07:10 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I fell in love with my blue Clem all over again when I took it on 
>>> vacation and rode it all over the north. It’s just such a good bike. So 
>>> comfortable and stretched out. I do love a Platypus, that’s for sure, but 
>>> the Clem is just special in its own right. I hope the changes made were 
>>> good ones (they will be) and that the people who most want these bikes and 
>>> will ride them are the ones who will a Clem on the day of the sale.
>>>
>>> The recent edition of Calling In Sick, Clem L edition really makes a 
>>> person extra glad to own a Clem. 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:34:43 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>>>
 I have the following rim braked 650B Rivendells: 

 1. Custom,  
 2. small Hubbuhubbuh,  
 3. 52 Bombadil,  
 4. 52 Clementine,  
 5. Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte,  
 6. medium Rosco Baby  
 7. Keven's Cargo Bike. 

 They use a mix of VO, Velocity Quill, Velocity Atlas, Velocity 
 Cliffhanger, and Alex rims. 36, 40 and 48 hole

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Maybe eventually, but there's a ton of Riv models running them and 
> they sell the wheels. My custom and Susie are rim-brake 650B. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 5:13:23 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> That’s a weird choice. Rim brake 650b wheels are pretty tough to 
>> find. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Get em! The 45cm is 650B now and that LimeOlive is sweet! 
>>>
>>> Joe "don't need, still want" Bernard
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[RBW] Re: Upcoming Frame Colors for Clems

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Thanks, Johnny. That lime/olive is what I was hoping for... 

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 11:58:08 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The previously available blue and a lime/olive that is supposed to be 
> similar to the platypus
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Will's email from Friday renewed my interest in getting a Clem L. Does 
>> anyone have intel on what the colors for the imminent frame drop and 
>> subsequent completes will be? Would be amazing if they brought back the 
>> mustard but I know that's highly unlikely
>
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[RBW] Upcoming Frame Colors for Clems

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Will's email from Friday renewed my interest in getting a Clem L. Does 
anyone have intel on what the colors for the imminent frame drop and 
subsequent completes will be? Would be amazing if they brought back the 
mustard but I know that's highly unlikely

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar/Stem pouch for Wine

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Jason - should have shown you this on Friday when I saw you but another 
option is the Tunitas Stowaway. Just got one for my Chev and can confirm 
it's strong and big enough for transporting a wine bottle.

https://www.tunitascarryall.com/product-page/stowaway



On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 7:45:13 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Thanks for all these suggestions , Outer Shell and Randi Jo specifically 
> look up to the task
> Also , from searching the iBob group... the King Iris Cage does a good job 
> of holding a 750 securely and I can attest to this after riding 50 miles 
> with a wine bottle in mine this week.  It is snug enough to mar up the 
> label but it's super solid.
>
> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 7:45:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason -- The Outer Shell 
>>  stem caddy 
>> easily fits a 750. Their product listing even shows a wine bottle. Image 
>> below of my bag plus wine. 
>>
>> I haven't used them but I think these bags would also work: 
>> Randi Jo Bartender Plus 
>> 
>> Road Runner Auto Pilot  
>> 
>>
>> Any of the stem bags that list they can carry a Nalgene should also fit a 
>> wine bottle. All three linked here are made in the USA. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_5296.jpg]
>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 10:26:54 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> If you could use your top tube:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Repurposed-Bicycle-Handmade-Hide-Drink/dp/B015JMQIFO/
>>> Otherwise you might strap on one of these:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/TOURBON-Canvas-Leather-Bicycle-Carrier/dp/B07JVQW85W/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: brake location Cheviot vs Platypus

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

>
>
> Side pulls vs V brakes perhaps?
>

I think it's that exactly. Not sure if you could mount a V-brake on the 
mid-stay, or how you would  route the cables. I first thought the S bend on 
the Clem, Gus, Susie, etc was weird but have gotten used to it.

>  
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone know what tire clearance is on a 55cm Yves/Betty? According to this, 
the larger frame can take 700x50, assuming a 650b would have a little 
more...

http://type2-clydesdale.blogspot.com/2013/09/rivendell-yves-gomez-mixte-betty-foy.html



On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Yves Gomez (Betty Foy)
> 55cm
> $1975
> Suffield, CT
>
> https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-yves-gomez/7353643236.html
>
> Romulus F/F/Hs/brakes
> 63cm
> $600
> San Francisco, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-63-cm-rivendell-romulus/7351906116.html

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Turns our the seller backed out anyway, so it's moot at this point. Thanks 
for feedback, though. I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-)

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 11:28:53 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless *before *a worldwide frames/parts 
> shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can 
> possibly justify the price, *buy it. *
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that 
>> in if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup 
>> (ie no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
>> price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
>> standards! 
>>
>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
>>> optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
>>> I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
>>> costs. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
>>>> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
>>>> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
>>>> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
>>>> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
>>>> some of the sting out?
>>>>
>>>> --Ed C.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>>> NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
>>>>> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/crank-silver-external-low-low-double-steel-34x24-with-guard>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking 
>>>>> at 
>>>>> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
>>>>> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
>>>>> do you think? 
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
.
 
It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
do you think? 

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[RBW] Re: Upcoming Riv Frames

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

There it is. Thank you!

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> https://www.instagram.com/p/CNLHnTLnyWW/
>
> On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I recall seeing, either from one of Will's weekly updates or a post from 
>> Grant, a rough outline of upcoming frame deliveries. I know those 
>> timeframes are often way, way off, but does anyone know where I can find 
>> that?
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
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[RBW] Upcoming Riv Frames

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I recall seeing, either from one of Will's weekly updates or a post from 
Grant, a rough outline of upcoming frame deliveries. I know those 
timeframes are often way, way off, but does anyone know where I can find 
that?

Thanks-

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