Re: [RBW] Repaired Susie and Intro post

[Keith P.]

That thing looks mean.
Tough looking dirt digger. Well done!

On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 1:04:00 PM UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> James, Iove the the rough look sans paint but I know you have to protect 
> the metal. An inspiring post all around. Doing your own frame rebuild and 
> making the effort to collect food scraps for compost. Kudos for your self 
> reliance.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 3:38:00 PM UTC-4 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>
>>
>> Ressurectio decals!
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2024, at 9:36 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:
>>
>> Was wondering what happened to this frame. The original poster never 
>> replied that I saw when I inquired about it way later. Your repair looks 
>> good. Nice to see it rolling. Should get some Protovelo decals from 
>> Rivendell and then paint it. There is that bike paint that Old Shovel uses, 
>> https://spraybike.us/ that may work. Strip down or partial strip then 
>> paint leaving the areas that have good paint still. Don't know if that 
>> would work. 
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:34:08 AM UTC-5 James ODonnell wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1 built.jpg]
>>> Introducing myself and my Susie W L that I picked up in the following 
>>> state from a list member (original thread 
>>> 
>>> ).
>>> [image: 2 brokenframe.jpeg]
>>>
>>> After aligning the fork and rear triangle, I did some practice brazes, 
>>> hand mitered some tubes, chucked it all in a basic fixture and did my best 
>>> to match the original geometry based on a chart Will @ Rivendell kindly 
>>> shared with me. To my surprise I managed to produce a frame that rides 
>>> straight and has held up to almost a year of riding. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Silver Hub sound

[Keith P.]

UPDATE:
I greased my Silver freehub and it is QUIET!
I expected a change, but with the normal road sounds of the world it is now 
virtually silent.
Very pleased with the result of a few youtube tutorials and some bravery.

- Keith

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:33:50 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Armand -
> Thank you for sharing this information. 
> I decided to buy some.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024, 11:01 AM Armand Kizirian  
> wrote:
>
>> No need to decide against an otherwise excellent hub due to a loud 
>> freehub. Apply this stuff generously to the pawls and it will silence it 
>> several fold. https://www.dumondetech.com/portfolio/pro-x-freehub-grease/ 
>>
>> Depending on how much you ride, you may need to reply it every few months 
>> or once a year to keep pawls silent. I use it on my mtb which has Industry 
>> Nine hubs with a billion engagement points so I can actually enjoy the 
>> sounds of nature. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:19:45 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I have one pair of wheels built onto Onyx hubs, and because the rear hub 
>>> uses a sprag clutch instead of pawls or a star ratchet like DT Swiss, they 
>>> are completely silent when freewheeling. I find it very nice that when I'm 
>>> stooging along out in the country and stop pedalling, I don't have any 
>>> mechanical noise other than that of the tyres on the road.
>>>
>>> I can't say that I really care for the look of their Vesper model hubs, 
>>> which have scalloped edges on the hub flanges between the spoke holes and 
>>> stepped diameters on the hub shell. I prefer the older "Classic" model I 
>>> have (still available) that has a smoother outline. They're also pretty 
>>> pricey - almost up in Chris King territory.
>>>
>>> Nick Payne
>>>
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[RBW] Re: San Francisco Randonneurs 200k ride report

[Keith P.]

Wow Toshi, congrats on what seems like a fantastic ride! Well done!
The pace and spirit of it sounded so fun.

When you wrote “rice bars” I mistakenly pictured freeze dried, mealy mouth 
cakes, but these are some onigiri type wonders.
Can’t wait to try them out.

What is the overall elevation gain in that race?
&
Any pictures from the day or just of your bike?

- K. In L.A. 

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 3:45:09 PM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Toshi, congratulations on your ride. Thank you for the ride report and the 
> rice bar recipe. I'm impressed by your 18 minute total time stopped. That's 
> a page from Jan Heine's playbook. "Inspiring" for sure to quote your fellow 
> rando Mr. Lindsay.
>
> Looking forward to your report from the 300k.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> This should be inspiring to anybody who thinks they can't do a long ride 
>> just because they only do short rides.  If you ride several times a week 
>> and believe that your bike fits you, then you can do a long ride.  The only 
>> thing stopping you is you choosing not to do one.  Choosing not to ride a 
>> long ride is a perfectly logical choice, mind you.  Just Ride!
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 11:12:09 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> The Russian River 200k comes in at a little over 200k with 126 miles.  I 
>>> consider myself a lazy randonneur.  I prefer to train as little as 
>>> possible, while also trying to minimize the suffering on the event day as 
>>> much as possible.
>>>
>>> I'm not unfit because I commute to work on my bike (Cheviot). During the 
>>> school year, I drop my daughter off at school, park the car nearby and ride 
>>> my bike to work and back to the car after work.  It's about 5 miles and 
>>> ~600 ft of elevation gain.  My base is therefore 40-50 miles a week (4-5 
>>> commute days) and two weekends I did a 15 mile loop from my house.  It's 
>>> enough training to finish the 126-miler, but I wanted to ride without 
>>> suffering unduly.
>>>
>>> I drew on my experience:
>>>
>>> 1. I know what my body likes to eat on long rides.  
>>> My go to recipe: rice bars-I think of it as an elevated spam musubi
>>>
>>> https://www.skratchlabs.com/blogs/recipes/dr-lims-bacon-and-egg-rice-cakes
>>>
>>> I put in chicken apple sausage instead of bacon and skip the maple 
>>> sugar/brown syrup.  I wrap the rice/eggs/sausage in seaweed like a sushi 
>>> roll and plop it in a sandwich baggie.  I didn't have to stop for anything 
>>> yesterday except some water and a quick bathroom break.
>>>
>>> 2. I know that with my base of fitness, I need to stay within a very 
>>> narrow range of effort.  If I put in too much effort, then my body won't be 
>>> able to recover.
>>>
>>> --This means that I need to go slow out of the gate and not get caught 
>>> up in the excitement of the start, and I have to take it easy on the hills 
>>> and spin in my low gears.  If I follow this strategy, then I can maintain 
>>> energy until the end without struggling to the finish line. 
>>>
>>> (Conversely, a countless number of times, have I gone too hard at the 
>>> start and limped along to the end!)
>>>
>>> It was a chilly start and forecast for 38 degrees, which on a steep 
>>> downhill is practically ski weather, so I put on my ski gloves on top of my 
>>> fingerless gloves to start the day off.
>>>
>>> As expected, out of the gate it was fast.  I kept it slow.  I was riding 
>>> alone that day because my friend was just returning from Germany and was 
>>> jet lagged, so I went at my own pace.
>>>
>>> Soon, I was the last one of the 60 or so riders and the only people I 
>>> saw were the late starters who were passing me.  
>>>
>>> It was cold as expected, and it was also foggy with condensation on my 
>>> glasses, so visibility was poor for a while, but gradually the sun came out 
>>> and it was a beautiful day.  I met up with another Riv that day--a rider 
>>> with a beautiful A Homer Hilsen (I'm sorry I missed his name).  He caught a 
>>> nice picture as the sun started to come out and we had a beautiful view of 
>>> the rolling hills.  
>>>
>>> I made my way through the grazing cows and worked through the Russian 
>>> River valley over to the coast where it was a really beautiful day.  We 
>>> headed back down the coast and then back to the start at San Rafael.
>>>
>>> --In terms of time allowed for the ride, the minimum pace is roughly 10 
>>> miles per hour, including stops, giving about 12.6 hours to finish. 
>>>
>>> I exceeded my target goal of 10-11 hours and came in under 10 hours. I 
>>> only had 18 minutes of time stopped (a record low for me), including a 
>>> couple of construction 1-lane delays, so that helped me maintain a good 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> For the 300k, I'm going to add in some 28 mile training loops. I figure 
>>> if I go hard on the 28-milers, then it will be enough to finish modestly 
>>> well on the 300k.  
>>>
>>> Until next 

Re: [RBW] Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

[Keith P.]

Thanks for the kind words Christian! So glad you enjoyed it.

Bill & Patrick - I know the Omata One can be pretty elusive (and very 
pricy). 

I ran into the owner once in a coffee shop here in town and he mentioned 
that they were trying to iron out a new manufacturer and supply chain. 

I would guess that is the cause of their scarcity.

Your best bet would probably be finding one second hand on ebay, 
Craigslist, or offer up . I see them pop up 
from time to time.

k.
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:52:40 PM UTC-8 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for a wonderful read and great pics, Keith! The cheering crowds and 
> patient braggart were highlights, but can’t compare with that gorgeous Sam 
> build of yours. The last pic deserves a place on Leah’s “Style on the Bike” 
> thread. Kudos! 
>
> Christian
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 5:59:42 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> "Omata One: How does one buy one? I didn't see a "Buy Now" button or a 
>> link to a dealer network."
>>
>> Or even a price?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Two very interesting adaptations. The Racing Basket weighs the same as 
>>> the custom rear rack on my Matthews #1. And getting digital GPS into an 
>>> anaolgue readout is very appealing.
>>>
>>> Omata One: How does one buy one? I didn't see a "Buy Now" button or a 
>>> link to a dealer network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 2:03 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>>
 ... 

>>>
- The “Racing basket 
” is just a 
Wald basket that they cut down to half height. (I think they look cool)
- The odometer/speedometer is a digital bike computer built into 
analog guts. Omata One  is name. They are so 
rad. Measures speed, time, distance, and elevation gain, and then syncs 
with your phone to record the data. Picked this one up used. 



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[RBW] Re: Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

[Keith P.]

Part 2:

50 miles turned into 60, and 60 inched toward 70, and I knew if I got to 80 
I'd be too close to 100 to stop.


It was hoot. I felt good. Tired but not exhausted. Sore, but with none of 
the chaffing and agony I thought I might expect.

More a matter of not stopping than pushing through a wall.


[image: IMG_3390.jpg]

I was also surprised by how much of the distance was covered on dedicated 
bike paths along the way. They were numerous and well isolated for long 
stretches, and when they were non existent, they were most often connected 
by a frontage road.

I ate some bugs. I ate some almond croissants.

The coast gave way to foothills just before dropping down into Santa 
Barbara, and just as the mini van pulled up behind me. I sent them on ahead 
to meet up with me after the last 8 miles of the ride.

[image: IMG_3364.jpg]

[image: IMG_3393.jpg]

(That's 103 not 3)

[image: IMG_3408.jpg]

Here I am, proud of myself. I don't think I expected to go the full 
distance really.

Always feels good to accomplish something new.


[image: IMG_3435.GIF]

The cheering crowds were of course overwhelming.


No flats or slow leaks on the Snoqualmie Passes.

The Hillborne preformed like the absolute champ we know it to be.

I have insoles in my vans, but could feel how a stiffer soled shoe would 
help on long trips like this one.


Overall a fantastic Southern California ride.


Keith Paugh

Los Angeles, CA
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:26:56 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:

> 1.27.24
>
> Perhaps excepting an invitation to a Century ride was overly optimistic. I 
> haven’t ridden more than 35 miles at once in recent memory - Maybe the 
> proposition should have given me pause, but a foolhardy challenge is just 
> what we need to feel slightly nervous about from time to time.
>
> The plan was to ride from our homes here in Los Angeles to Santa Barbara 
> on a route exactly 100 miles away. A “Pier to Pier” ride, from the Santa 
> Monica Ferris Wheel to Stearns Wharf on the other end.
>
> Hugging the coast, we would follow a “mostly” flat course, with about 
> 2,900 ft of elevation gain over the entire distance. 
>
> Not without any climbing, but predominantly gradual climbing, of short, 
> and rolling hills along the Pacific Coast Highway.
>
> It was fun to think about what food to bring for an average of 200 - 300 
> calories per hour of riding. 
>
> I tried out Tailwind, a hydration drink mix "with electrolytes and 
> calories."
>
> I had two bottles, one with water, and one with Tailwind in them at any 
> given time. I definitely think it helped to mix “drinking” calories as well 
> as eating them.
>
> Laying everything out the night before my kids were impressed with the 
> proposed undertaking. I had to manage expectations and tell them my goal 
> was reaching half the distance.
>
> The group met at 4:45 in the morning so we could be on the road by 5:00. 
> Most of my cycling friends are younger, more frequent and thus stronger 
> riders than I am, and several announced they were now planning to not only 
> ride the 100 miles to Santa Barbara, but now also ride back. They laid 
> out a brisk pace with brief stops to get them to the finish with ample time 
> for their return trip.
>
> [image: IMG_3372.jpg]
>
> Riding early by bike light is always a treat. Devoid of its usual measure 
> of traffic, Los Angeles is a different town in the dark, and your required 
> level of city-riding spatial vigilance can relax to a pleasant degree. 
>
> It was cool out but not cold, and I took off my riding jacket early on.
>
> I had hemmed and hawed about cutting the zip ties on my racing basket and 
> leaving it behind... In the end, I recognized whatever loss in aerodynamics 
> was going to be negligible for me, and having a place to shed layers and 
> plastic bags of dry roasted peanuts was a welcome convenience.
>
> The stretch of PCH in Santa Monica is one of the few that doesn’t have an 
> ample shoulder for bikes to stay out of the right lane. We rode in a 
> column, pulling each other along in a stream till we reached the hills at 
> Pepperdine University.
>
> I’ve learned I can climb most things if I gear down to where I can keep my 
> legs loose, put my head down and not watch how far off the top is. This 
> also requires not trying to “keep up,” so I tried to convince my friends 
> not to wait and to go on ahead.
>
> They were reluctant, but eventually yielded.
>
> A relief in some ways. I love to chug along and stop whenever I want to 
> take pictures or take a break.
>
> [image: IMG_3379.jpg]
>
> Here is where I misread the layout of some concrete barriers and ended up 
> having brunch with a steam shovel.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3384.jpg]
>
> Here is my stop at mile 50 - First goa

[RBW] Re: Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

[Keith P.]

Part 2:

50 miles turned into 60, and 60 inched toward 70, and I knew if I got to 80 
I'd be too close to 100 to stop.

It was hoot. I felt good. Tired but not exhausted. Sore, but with none of 
the chaffing and agony I thought I might expect.

More a matter of not stopping than pushing through a wall.


[image: IMG_3390.jpg]

I was also surprised by how much of the distance was covered on dedicated 
bike paths along the way. They were numerous and well isolated for long 
stretches, and when they were non existent, they were most often connected 
by a frontage road.

I ate some bugs. I ate some almond croissants.

The coast gave way to foothills just before dropping down into Santa 
Barbara, and just as the mini van pulled up behind me. I sent them on ahead 
to meet up with me after the last 8 miles of the ride.

[image: IMG_3364.jpg]

[image: IMG_3393.jpg]

(That's 103 not 3)

[image: IMG_3408.jpg]

Here I am, proud of myself. I don't think I expected to go the full 
distance really.

Always feels good to accomplish something new.


[image: IMG_3435.GIF]

The cheering crowds were of course overwhelming.


No flats or slow leaks on the Snoqualmie Passes.

The Hillborne preformed like the absolute champ we know it to be.

I have insoles in my vans, but could feel how a stiffer soled shoe would 
help on long trips like this one.


Overall a fantastic Southern California ride.


Keith Paugh

Los Angeles, CA


On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:26:56 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:

> 1.27.24
>
> Perhaps excepting an invitation to a Century ride was overly optimistic. I 
> haven’t ridden more than 35 miles at once in recent memory - Maybe the 
> proposition should have given me pause, but a foolhardy challenge is just 
> what we need to feel slightly nervous about from time to time.
>
> The plan was to ride from our homes here in Los Angeles to Santa Barbara 
> on a route exactly 100 miles away. A “Pier to Pier” ride, from the Santa 
> Monica Ferris Wheel to Stearns Wharf on the other end.
>
> Hugging the coast, we would follow a “mostly” flat course, with about 
> 2,900 ft of elevation gain over the entire distance. 
>
> Not without any climbing, but predominantly gradual climbing, of short, 
> and rolling hills along the Pacific Coast Highway.
>
> It was fun to think about what food to bring for an average of 200 - 300 
> calories per hour of riding. 
>
> I tried out Tailwind, a hydration drink mix "with electrolytes and 
> calories."
>
> I had two bottles, one with water, and one with Tailwind in them at any 
> given time. I definitely think it helped to mix “drinking” calories as well 
> as eating them.
>
> Laying everything out the night before my kids were impressed with the 
> proposed undertaking. I had to manage expectations and tell them my goal 
> was reaching half the distance.
>
> The group met at 4:45 in the morning so we could be on the road by 5:00. 
> Most of my cycling friends are younger, more frequent and thus stronger 
> riders than I am, and several announced they were now planning to not only 
> ride the 100 miles to Santa Barbara, but now also ride back. They laid 
> out a brisk pace with brief stops to get them to the finish with ample time 
> for their return trip.
>
> [image: IMG_3372.jpg]
>
> Riding early by bike light is always a treat. Devoid of its usual measure 
> of traffic, Los Angeles is a different town in the dark, and your required 
> level of city-riding spatial vigilance can relax to a pleasant degree. 
>
> It was cool out but not cold, and I took off my riding jacket early on.
>
> I had hemmed and hawed about cutting the zip ties on my racing basket and 
> leaving it behind... In the end, I recognized whatever loss in aerodynamics 
> was going to be negligible for me, and having a place to shed layers and 
> plastic bags of dry roasted peanuts was a welcome convenience.
>
> The stretch of PCH in Santa Monica is one of the few that doesn’t have an 
> ample shoulder for bikes to stay out of the right lane. We rode in a 
> column, pulling each other along in a stream till we reached the hills at 
> Pepperdine University.
>
> I’ve learned I can climb most things if I gear down to where I can keep my 
> legs loose, put my head down and not watch how far off the top is. This 
> also requires not trying to “keep up,” so I tried to convince my friends 
> not to wait and to go on ahead.
>
> They were reluctant, but eventually yielded.
>
> A relief in some ways. I love to chug along and stop whenever I want to 
> take pictures or take a break.
>
> [image: IMG_3379.jpg]
>
> Here is where I misread the layout of some concrete barriers and ended up 
> having brunch with a steam shovel.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3384.jpg]
>
> Here is my stop at mile 50 - First goa

[RBW] Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

[Keith P.]

1.27.24

Perhaps excepting an invitation to a Century ride was overly optimistic. I 
haven’t ridden more than 35 miles at once in recent memory - Maybe the 
proposition should have given me pause, but a foolhardy challenge is just 
what we need to feel slightly nervous about from time to time.

The plan was to ride from our homes here in Los Angeles to Santa Barbara on 
a route exactly 100 miles away. A “Pier to Pier” ride, from the Santa 
Monica Ferris Wheel to Stearns Wharf on the other end.

Hugging the coast, we would follow a “mostly” flat course, with about 2,900 
ft of elevation gain over the entire distance. 

Not without any climbing, but predominantly gradual climbing, of short, and 
rolling hills along the Pacific Coast Highway.

It was fun to think about what food to bring for an average of 200 - 300 
calories per hour of riding. 

I tried out Tailwind, a hydration drink mix "with electrolytes and 
calories."

I had two bottles, one with water, and one with Tailwind in them at any 
given time. I definitely think it helped to mix “drinking” calories as well 
as eating them.

Laying everything out the night before my kids were impressed with the 
proposed undertaking. I had to manage expectations and tell them my goal 
was reaching half the distance.

The group met at 4:45 in the morning so we could be on the road by 5:00. 
Most of my cycling friends are younger, more frequent and thus stronger 
riders than I am, and several announced they were now planning to not only 
ride the 100 miles to Santa Barbara, but now also ride back. They laid out 
a brisk pace with brief stops to get them to the finish with ample time for 
their return trip.

[image: IMG_3372.jpg]

Riding early by bike light is always a treat. Devoid of its usual measure 
of traffic, Los Angeles is a different town in the dark, and your required 
level of city-riding spatial vigilance can relax to a pleasant degree. 

It was cool out but not cold, and I took off my riding jacket early on.

I had hemmed and hawed about cutting the zip ties on my racing basket and 
leaving it behind... In the end, I recognized whatever loss in aerodynamics 
was going to be negligible for me, and having a place to shed layers and 
plastic bags of dry roasted peanuts was a welcome convenience.

The stretch of PCH in Santa Monica is one of the few that doesn’t have an 
ample shoulder for bikes to stay out of the right lane. We rode in a 
column, pulling each other along in a stream till we reached the hills at 
Pepperdine University.

I’ve learned I can climb most things if I gear down to where I can keep my 
legs loose, put my head down and not watch how far off the top is. This 
also requires not trying to “keep up,” so I tried to convince my friends 
not to wait and to go on ahead.

They were reluctant, but eventually yielded.

A relief in some ways. I love to chug along and stop whenever I want to 
take pictures or take a break.

[image: IMG_3379.jpg]

Here is where I misread the layout of some concrete barriers and ended up 
having brunch with a steam shovel.


[image: IMG_3384.jpg]

Here is my stop at mile 50 - First goal achieved.


 [image: IMG_3387.jpg]

This patient braggart thought he was going to get some of my granola bar.

He did not. 

The family wasn't scheduled to leave home and collect me for some time, so 
I figured I would, as casually as I pleased, keep covering ground until 
they did.

I took a wrong turn in Oxnard, ran out of water, and ran into a headwind 
that almost did me in for the day.

[image: IMG_3389.jpg]

Eventually I found a gas station and a tailwind, and after a breakfast 
burrito for lunch, thought I would ride at least as far as the wind was 
willing to push me. With swept back bars it's easy to sit tall, or stand 
and turn yourself into a sail. I was quickly back on track with little loss 
of time and marginal additional distance.

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[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Keith P.]

I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
Has he seen this yet?

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
> Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool to do 
> the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or a 
> Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace with 
> a cafe stop or two thrown in. 
>
> I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my LA 
> daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread with 
> interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
> Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of climbing! 
> But it's beautiful and fun.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA) 
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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

What length Voile strap do you find you end up using the most?
I'll probably get a variety pack, but thought I'd ask the gang.

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:12:30 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your suggestions! 
> Looking into them now.
> Sounds like having a few a Voile straps would be worth having around.
>
> Luke: Yeah, I have the Captain Hook net too. By far the best cargo/basket 
> net I've seen out there. I love the hooks and the gauge of the cord, just 
> don't like the color I have.
> Tried to dye it last night. Didn't work.
>
> k.
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:56:35 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> If you want the fancy stuff: 
>> https://austeremanufacturing.com/collections/all-products these are 
>> gorgeous but I agree that voile straps get the job done
>> Max
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> +whatever for Voile straps. The itty bitty ones are great for attaching 
>>> bags to bars and saddles, and the long ones are great for just about 
>>> anything.
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:50:32 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>>
>>>> John's straps are the same as the classic Arno straps. If you don't 
>>>> need the rainbow version, you can get them in black for cheap by the pair 
>>>> at scamazon or wherever. I used to be able to get them at my Ace Hardware. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.coghlans.com/arno-straps-24-7-2-pack-8424
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:05:51 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use Rok Straps a lot on my cargo bike to secure loads. They stretch 
>>>>> nicely and cinch down securely. I’ve never had one slip. They come in a 
>>>>> variety of sizes and are relatively cheap. You can get them with 
>>>>> reflective 
>>>>> thread which is nice at night.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe they were developed for motorcycle use so perfect on a 
>>>>> bicycle as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 
>>>>> 61eyLz1m9EL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFIVE,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA1%2C263,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> ROK Straps ROK-10358 Black/Reflective 12" - 42" Pack Adjustable 
>>>>> Stretch Strap 
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>>> amazon.com 
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Tilley
>>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance 
>>>>> and securing cargo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, 
>>>>> I would love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

Thanks everyone for your suggestions! 
Looking into them now.
Sounds like having a few a Voile straps would be worth having around.

Luke: Yeah, I have the Captain Hook net too. By far the best cargo/basket 
net I've seen out there. I love the hooks and the gauge of the cord, just 
don't like the color I have.
Tried to dye it last night. Didn't work.

k.
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:56:35 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> If you want the fancy stuff: 
> https://austeremanufacturing.com/collections/all-products these are 
> gorgeous but I agree that voile straps get the job done
> Max
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +whatever for Voile straps. The itty bitty ones are great for attaching 
>> bags to bars and saddles, and the long ones are great for just about 
>> anything.
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:50:32 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>
>>> John's straps are the same as the classic Arno straps. If you don't need 
>>> the rainbow version, you can get them in black for cheap by the pair at 
>>> scamazon or wherever. I used to be able to get them at my Ace Hardware. 
>>>
>>> https://www.coghlans.com/arno-straps-24-7-2-pack-8424
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:05:51 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use Rok Straps a lot on my cargo bike to secure loads. They stretch 
>>>> nicely and cinch down securely. I’ve never had one slip. They come in a 
>>>> variety of sizes and are relatively cheap. You can get them with 
>>>> reflective 
>>>> thread which is nice at night.
>>>>
>>>> I believe they were developed for motorcycle use so perfect on a 
>>>> bicycle as well.
>>>>
>>>> [image: 
>>>> 61eyLz1m9EL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFIVE,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA1%2C263,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> ROK Straps ROK-10358 Black/Reflective 12" - 42" Pack Adjustable Stretch 
>>>> Strap 
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>> amazon.com 
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/ROK-Straps-ROK-10358-Black-Reflective/dp/B00JVAJJNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=EVH8CSA0719A=rok+straps=1679375066=rok+s%2Caps%2C279=8-3>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert Tilley
>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
>>>> securing cargo.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?
>>>>
>>>> I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 
>>>>
>>>> Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, 
>>>> I would love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> K.
>>>>
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[RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

Hey gang,

I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
securing cargo.

Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?

I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 

Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, I 
would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!
K.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Keith P.]

Another lovely bike and another beautiful video, Eric.  
I've watched it a couple of times now. (The kids will come in and groan 
"oh, the bike guy again,"  but then stay and watch the whole thing.) 
I know how much thought and work and effort goes into all that coverage. I 
really appreciate how much love you put into them.

Looks like you found some round-headed brass bolts for your bottle mounts. 
Nice find.

Paul, that Trek is a treat. What a color!

k.

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Another vote for Jen Green’s fine work. She did a head badge, made from 
> nickel, for me several years ago.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 9:39 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> JohnS — Let us know how it turns out!
>>
>> Rich — Thanks for the thumbs, Rich. I put a little more effort into the 
>> still photo documentation this time around, my iPhone 8 just couldn't 
>> render the metal surface and details. 
>>
>> Paul — Thank you! I hadn't seen Jen Green's work, thanks for the link. 
>> The Bontrager is rad! Looks like you put a lot of labor and love into it. A 
>> proper headbadge always beats a decal!
>>
>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 10:20:00 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>> I finally got to view your superb YouTube video - wonderfully relaxing! 
>>> (As well as informative, of course.)
>>> I loved all the attention you put into the headbadge, too. You may 
>>> already know, but a gal in Philly, Jen Green, does custom head badges and 
>>> does a great job. (She works in bronze too, but maybe not brass.)  
>>> Revolution Cycle Jewelry: 
>>> https://www.headbadges.com/store/c2/Headbadges.html
>>> I had her make a Bontrager badge a few years ago for my CX bike that I 
>>> had Keith Bontrager build for me in 1989. 
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/48051561606/in/dateposted-public/
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/7215770445842
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]

 Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
 have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg

 [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]

 I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
 for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
 over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
 and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss 
 to 
 the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
 stripped the frame to raw steel. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]

 Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
 patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and 
 wax. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]

 It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
 De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
 RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
 Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
 Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 

 [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]

 I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
 which I shaped and finished. 

 [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]

 Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
 M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
 my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
 Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 

 Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
 them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 

 • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
 • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
 • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
 • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
 • Kasai 32H front hub
 • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
 • Busch + Müller light mount
 • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
 • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
 • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
 • Suntour Superbe levers
 • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
 • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
 • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
 • Dia Compe yoke hangers
 • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
 • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
 • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
 • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
 • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
 • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
 • MKS XC-III pedals
 • Suntour AR front derailer
 • Shimano XTR 

[RBW] Riv Silver Rear Hubs

[Keith P.]

I couldn’t find a thread where these had been talked about.
Has anyone tried the Silver rear hubs & have opinions about them they’d 
like to share?

Starting to build up my new Sam and am looking into such things.

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Re: [RBW] New Fork Paint Options!

[Keith P.]

It just looks dynamite Matthew!
What a fantastic color.

I can't wait to see it built up.

I'm on the edge of my chromatic seat though. Which did you end up going 
with?! 126 or 7558?
(My guess is the latter)

k.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 3:59:00 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
>
> I just got my fork back from Rick, at D Cycles. After a lot of color 
> explorations, I decided to paint the fork to match the frame--I like the 
> butterscotch/mustard/antique gold color more than I realized!
>
> I gave Rick the frame and a Pantone chip so he could match the color. I 
> found four possible Pantone matches: 126, 132, 7557, and 7558. Of the four, 
> PMS 126 and 7558 appear to be the closest match in both shade and 
> direct sunlight, despite my iPhone camera’s claim to the contrary.
>
> Rick did a fantastic job. Rick absolutely nailed the color, he gave me 
> some leftover paint for touch-ups, and Rivendell picked up the tab. 
> Thanks to Vince & crew at Rivendell, and thanks to Rick for the terrific 
> work.
>
> I’ll rebuild her over the winter so she’s ready to ride in the spring.
>
>
> [image: comparison_4682.jpg][image: forkcrown_4661.jpg][image: 
> forks_4660.jpg][image: forks_4663.jpg][image: pantone_4677.jpg][image: 
> touchup_4664.jpg]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Sharing Your Fall Foliage Fotos 2022

[Keith P.]

Glorious! All around. 
Keep 'em coming for those of us that live in less colorful climes.
k.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 4:25:17 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm enjoying these pics!
>
> Here's a sugar maple from this afternoon. 
>
> [image: IMG_3358.JPG]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 4:50:34 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: 95E954D2-C473-4F61-8899-5846BD8D16C1.jpeg]
>>
>> I didn’t spend time to get a better shot because my daughter was in 
>> desperate need to get home for a nap. The colors are beautiful right now 
>> though!
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 6:59:08 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 6:46:41 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to Leah for sharing those nice fall Platy pics. I thought it'd 
 be fun if we all had a place to share some nice fall pics. Here are a few 
 of mine from this weekend. 
>>>
>>>
>>> We're having a glorious autumn in SE Wisconsin. Lots of moisture in the 
>>> ground and the colors are spectacular. Alas, I didn't ride one of my 
>>> Rivendell bikes for this ride, so you'll have to excuse the intrusion of a 
>>> Breadwinner G-Road, which I think of as the love child of my Riv ATB and my 
>>> Bleriot.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0770.jpeg] 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Keith P.]

My son kind of has the worst ride to middle school possible here in Los 
Angeles.
On a main commute artery, over a Freeway, up one steep hill, down the other 
side, starting and stopping shoulder lanes... all during rush hour traffic 
with no alternate routes. 
It's fun, but less than ideal, and far from idyllic.
We are honked at in the street every so often, and wave back as though they 
are saying hello. These are kids folks!

People's impatience and entitlement are vast and unfortunate, but what are 
you going to do? Try and be safe and respectful while sharing the road I 
guess.

I've never been hit or had a serious altercation with a car, but I haven't 
ridden a proper road bike on proper "road bike" roads in decades because of 
the horror stories. 

I used to go on long rides around the city at night when traffic would die 
down to a fraction of its daytime density.
That was really fun and much less stressful in spite of the visibility 
wrinkle of it being dark out. 

Glad most of these stories have ended "safely."
k.
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 10:11:51 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> Thanks for starting this thread, Eric. 
>
> As far as biking vs. motorists go, I’ve weirdly come to feel nostalgic 
> about the first few months of pandemic lockdowns, which showed how pleasant 
> urban biking life could be with cities devoid of motor traffic. It was calm 
> and easy; bikers and pedestrians basically owned the streets. It’s 
> horrible that it took an extraordinary global pandemic to show us how 
> cities can be if they are not dominated by car traffic, but I’m afraid we 
> haven’t absorbed the lessons.  
>
> As life has inched back to “normalcy”, riding on DC streets feels more 
> treacherous than ever. Traffic and aggressive drivers have returned with a 
> vengeance. Just yesterday I was talking to folks in my little riding group 
> about how the 10 mins of negotiating unruly street traffic to reach any 
> number of great trails in DC is the most exhausting part of an all-day 
> ride. 
>
> I try to communicate with drivers as much as possible, making eye contact, 
> signaling, pointing, gesticulating, thanking them verbally and with a nod 
> and a wave. Most want to be good road citizens. 
>
> But there are plenty of bad apples who are either just obnoxious, 
> distracted, in too much of a hurry, oblivious, or intoxicated. It’s common 
> around these parts to smell weed wafting out of cars.
>
> A couple of weeks ago I was riding solo toward Rock Creek Park, going down 
> a big hill on a road with a bike lane that ends abruptly. I claimed the 
> middle of the road lane, and I saw a car in the mirror approaching way too 
> fast. The driver hit the horn, startled the bejesus out of me, and a 
> passenger stuck her head out of the window shouting, “Get out of our way!! 
> Move your ass to the sidewalk!” 
>
> At the next block we stopped at a red light and the car pulled beside me. 
> The passengers were mouthing off at me. I said matter of factly, “FYI DC 
> law allows bikes to use full lanes. And in this part of DC it is illegal 
> for adults to ride on sidewalks.” Perhaps it was stupid of me to even 
> engage.
>
> The woman said, “Of course you can ride the sidewalk, you are not in a 
> motor vehicle!! You’re blocking traffic, mother fxxker!”
>
> The light turned green, I said “Whatever”, pedaled on my way, and veered 
> off the main road. The car turned around and followed me, drove within two 
> feet of my side, and another passenger made like he was going to punch me 
> while shouting obscenities at me. The charming woman in the back seat spit 
> at me. At this point adrenaline took over and I turned again onto a side 
> street and made it up a steep incline faster than I ever would have thought 
> possible. I had to get away. It felt like lunacy. 
>
> Not long before that I was riding on a painted bike lane (physical 
> barriers are not common in DC) and a woman drove into my lane, clipping me. 
> My left brake lever scraped the length of her car. Somehow I maintained 
> control of the bike with my right hand and pounded on the car with my left 
> as I shouted at her. It happened so quickly, I was only reacting, not 
> thinking. I managed to stop without crashing, I felt my heart pounding out 
> of my chest, then the driver stopped her car, got out, and began yelling at 
> me to watch where I’m going. She threatened to call the police because her 
> car got scratched. It was absurd. I’m grateful that neither I nor my riding 
> companion was hurt. 
>
> So 99 percent of the time sharing the streets with motorists is fine. It’s 
> the 1 percent that is worrying. My anecdotal sense that aggressive and 
> distracted driving has increased is supported by data that shows that motor 
> vehicles accidents that cause injuries and fatalities have been increasing 
> since spring 2020, despite fewer overall miles driven, reversing years of 
> decline. There’s a lot of speculation as to why the trend has shifted.  
>

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Keith P.]

Great report.
Every time I see your photos of Virginia I can't figure out why *everyone* 
doesn't live there.
Is it the humidity? Ticks? 
Beautiful stuff!


On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks a bunch, Chris. Encouraging anyone to get out and ride is quite the 
> compliment!
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:08:49 PM UTC-4 chris@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh wow, great report, Eric! Thanks for sharing it. I'm with everyone else 
>> when I say it made me want to hop on the bike and go for a long one.
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that 
>>> morning :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and non-hooded), 
 and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to be one of the 
 best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever owned. That said, 
 I 
 cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for very long... even 
 in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes unbearable. To 
 me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking warmth layer for 
 general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. Usually that over 
 a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I always have 
 one with me on outdoor activities October through April (Kentucky 
 weather), 
 but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.

 On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have 
> stopped to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to 
> share 
> with the group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from 
> stopping. 
>
> J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping 
> you warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment 
> I'm 
> now reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state 
>> over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a 
>> ride. 
>> I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not 
>> great for physical activities. 
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Ridge ramble
>>> 23 September 2022
>>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>>
>>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras 
>>> riddled with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been 
>>> looking 
>>> for a way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. 
>>> Unfortunately getting out to the mountains relative to where I live 
>>> requires at least three hours of driving. That creates enough friction 
>>> that 
>>> I can’t manage it every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape 
>>> I’d 
>>> be in with easy mountain access. 
>>>
>>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps 
>>> looking for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding 
>>> highways and roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any 
>>> confirmation 
>>> that certain roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike 
>>> I 
>>> felt confident enough to try and make a loop. My original charted 
>>> course 
>>> was 125 miles, combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 
>>>
>>> It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and 
>>> we’ve had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, 
>>> others 
>>> in the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride 
>>> predicted a 
>>> low of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. 
>>> This 
>>> might sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but 
>>> there was some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts 
>>> up to 
>>> 28mph I would later find myself freezing. 
>>>
>>> I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of 
>>> what to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the 
>>> route 
>>> but I didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I 
>>> brought 
>>> along more than I needed. 
>>>
>>> I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 
>>>
>>> For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate 
>>> bar; a blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut 
>>> butter, 
>>> honey, coconut, salt and banana sandwich 

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Keith P.]

Great report.
Every time I see your photos of Virginia I can figure out why *everyone* 
doesn't live there.
Is it the humidity? Ticks? 
Beautiful stuff!

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks a bunch, Chris. Encouraging anyone to get out and ride is quite the 
> compliment!
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:08:49 PM UTC-4 chris@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh wow, great report, Eric! Thanks for sharing it. I'm with everyone else 
>> when I say it made me want to hop on the bike and go for a long one.
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that 
>>> morning :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and non-hooded), 
 and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to be one of the 
 best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever owned. That said, 
 I 
 cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for very long... even 
 in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes unbearable. To 
 me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking warmth layer for 
 general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. Usually that over 
 a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I always have 
 one with me on outdoor activities October through April (Kentucky 
 weather), 
 but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.

 On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have 
> stopped to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to 
> share 
> with the group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from 
> stopping. 
>
> J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping 
> you warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment 
> I'm 
> now reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state 
>> over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a 
>> ride. 
>> I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not 
>> great for physical activities. 
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Ridge ramble
>>> 23 September 2022
>>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>>
>>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras 
>>> riddled with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been 
>>> looking 
>>> for a way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. 
>>> Unfortunately getting out to the mountains relative to where I live 
>>> requires at least three hours of driving. That creates enough friction 
>>> that 
>>> I can’t manage it every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape 
>>> I’d 
>>> be in with easy mountain access. 
>>>
>>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps 
>>> looking for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding 
>>> highways and roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any 
>>> confirmation 
>>> that certain roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike 
>>> I 
>>> felt confident enough to try and make a loop. My original charted 
>>> course 
>>> was 125 miles, combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 
>>>
>>> It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and 
>>> we’ve had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, 
>>> others 
>>> in the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride 
>>> predicted a 
>>> low of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. 
>>> This 
>>> might sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but 
>>> there was some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts 
>>> up to 
>>> 28mph I would later find myself freezing. 
>>>
>>> I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of 
>>> what to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the 
>>> route 
>>> but I didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I 
>>> brought 
>>> along more than I needed. 
>>>
>>> I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 
>>>
>>> For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate 
>>> bar; a blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut 
>>> butter, 
>>> honey, coconut, salt and banana sandwich with 

[RBW] Re: All Time Best Paint Color

[Keith P.]

Leah: No purchase yet, but he was making a good case for one riding around 
in the parking lot.

Franklyn: Both of those Blues! Outstanding.

k.

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:48:46 AM UTC-7 sin...@msn.com wrote:

> I still think the original Romulus color is one of the best there was! 
> Here is one example when I owned it: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/324768705/in/album-72157600050554321/
>
> I also got it repainted at one point and it turned out really well, though 
> obviously it wasn't a stock paint job (though it was by the designated 
> painter for Riv at the time): 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/447923553/in/album-72157600050554321/
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 4:08:42 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>>
>> I've been going down the archive rabbit hole and am curious of the 
>> bunch's thoughts (opinions).
>>
>> *What is the best factory Rivendell paint color to date?*
>>
>> Give me your hot takes - and photos if you've got 'em.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Time Best Paint Color

[Keith P.]

These are beauties.
Thanks for sharing your pictures!
k.
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:37:50 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> My color-of-first-choice is not a Riv-offered color, but it is the color 
> of my last remaining (out of 5) Rivendells: Ford Blue, no damned cream 
> accents. I had a nice powdercoat done to the 1999 (about which you've heard 
> far more than you want to hear) after C Matthews's alterations, to replace 
> the original Top Drawer metallic Navy with Cream Joe Bell job. Me, for 
> blue, there's no blue like Ford Blue, and the duller finish compared to the 
> sparkly Navy + clearcoat actually, IMO, makes the shade look even better. 
> The powdercoater IIRC was a local who has done much good bicycle finishing; 
> recall the "liquid" effect of the pale blue powdercoat of the 1958 Herse; 
> the shade came close to the original but faded Herse blue but looked, IMO, 
> better by far.
>
> But, shoot, C Matthews's last powdercoat vendor is not nearly as good as 
> the earlier one; the otherwise very pretty sage green powdercoat (I vote 
> this Color #2) on the 2020 AM-hub road bike is lumpy in places. 
>
> I'll spare you another photo.
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne build video

[Keith P.]

Fun to see the photos on here too!

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-7 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:

> Lovely bicycle-- you could do just about any sort of ride with that set-up 
> excluding technical single track!
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my 
>> first Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that I 
>> totally overhauled. 
>>
>> I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
>> . 
>>
>> And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
>> look ✌️
>>
>> [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: 
>> Hillborne Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne 
>> Sm_06.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]
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[RBW] All Time Best Paint Color

[Keith P.]

I've been going down the archive rabbit hole and am curious of the bunch's 
thoughts (opinions).

*What is the best factory Rivendell paint color to date?*

Give me your hot takes - and photos if you've got 'em.

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