[RBW] Re: I have questions

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hey, Leah, 
I don’t think you’ll have to worry about keeping up or pace for that 
particular 2-day ride. It’s flat (no real hills) and mostly a laid-back 
ride at your own pace. That said, some folks will be riding quicker than 
others and you will find folks to ride with at any pace. Will you have 
Michigan club rides starting up before June to try out the 48s with a 
faster pace group?

On the basket rack safety issue, you could possibly do a more permanent 
belt and suspenders approach with an extra set of 2 daruma bolts and 2 
extra stays attached to the mid-fork braze ons, which would replace the 
backup safety feature of the strap. That way you’d have attachment points 
at fork crown, mid fork eyelets and drop out eyelets. 

As to maybe the other question of are belts and suspenders really 
necessary?: it’s hard to answer for other people. Making sure bolts are 
tight and inspecting fork crown attachment for damage before big rides or 
on a maintenance schedule could help relieve some of those anxieties. I get 
rivs cautions about being thrown by jammed fenders or failing rack 
attachments: you’d never choose to have these things happen to you, so why 
not add some extra fail-safes. 
Best, 
Leif in Chicago 

On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 8:10:14 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I have had some of the same questions tumbling about in my brain as I wait 
> for the last of the parts for my Gravel & Travel Platy. I just got back 
> from a warm and delightful weekend of cycling in Philadelphia. I, a newly 
> minted Michigander, was happy to return to the shire, and for that, I was 
> welcomed with Second Winter. 
>
> Michigan is over here, doing me dirty. 
>
> I’m prevailing upon you to humor me and answer my questions, because a lot 
> of you are having spring and flowers and sunshine, so this is the least you 
> could do!
>
> I got the 50 cm Platy to take on trips. Will fit in the van better, will 
> fit on Amtrak, be easier to shove in elevators, that sort of thing. But the 
> tires I have on hand are 48 mm Gravel Kings. They are almost new. I’m 
> considering taking a train to a ride this summer, but that means no Racing 
> Platypus, only the purple one can fit. Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road 
> ride pace? I have 42 on all my other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is 
> a 2 day event, 100 miles total. I’d like to keep the tires if I could, 
> because they’re new and they are fat enough to also double as gravel tires, 
> should I decide to do a gravel ride again. But I do more road rides than 
> anything else, and if those 48s will cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. 
> What’s the consensus?
>
> Basket straps. I have the Nitto Basket Rack and even though I’ve disliked 
> it in the past, I figure it’s pretty and I already own it and I might need 
> a front rack for travel. But do I really have to put the ugly strap from 
> bar to basket? Is the Nitto Basket Rack safer than the Mark’s Rack? I know 
> Sergio was thrown when his Mark’s Rack loosened and hit the front tire and 
> he’s missing significant chunks of front teeth! What is everyone doing 
> about their front racks?
>
> Lights. I have an Edelux light. It’s not the right color for this build, 
> but it’s perfectly good. But sometimes I think, “wouldn’t it be nice to 
> have a light that would charge your phone?” The Sinewave Beacon 2 will do 
> just that, but it sounds like it’s not a great road light. What are people 
> using to charge phones on long rides away from home?
>
> I ordered my wheels today. This, because J at the Velocity booth in Philly 
> talked me into them when he heard about the theme of my build. Here’s a 
> sneak peek.
>
> And thanks for helping me out here! It’s good to hear people’s experiences 
> and points of view!
> Leah
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

[Leif Eckstrom]

That's great, Leah! 
I'm planning to camp. My wife will be riding for the first time and 
camping, too. 
I had a blast last year and fell in with a group that quickly became 
friends along the way. You and anyone else from this list would be most 
welcome to ride with us. 
Best,
Leif
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:44:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Leif, I just might have to do it! Are you planning to camp or sleep in a 
> hotel? Are you riding alone? If there was a group of us Riv Riders that 
> wanted to ride together I think it would be great. Leah
>
> On Feb 13, 2024, at 1:17 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Leah, Marc, Pam, et. al.,
> I'm loving the thought that I might just see a pack of Rivish Lone Wolf(s) 
> on Le Tour De Shore this June. 
> Registration is now open--with about 6 early-registration priced tickets 
> left as of this morning, Tuesday, Feb 13.
> https://www.bikereg.com/letourdeshore
> Please DM if you need any help with logistics or planning on the Chicago 
> side of the ride. 
> Best,
> Leif 
>
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> Amtrak has been working hard the past ten years to make affordable bike 
>> transport available and on all it's trains.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:22:07 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s unfortunate that this country never has, and never will embrace 
>>> multi-modal transportation. Just think of all the biking possibilities that 
>>> could be available to so many more of us, and not just those who live in 
>>> major metropolitan areas. 
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm 
>>> Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on 
>>> Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, 
>>> and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other 
>>> dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a 
>>> bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some 
>>> discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which 
>>> trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, 
>>> etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done 
>>> this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!
>>>> The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see 
>>>> it now.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Leah, 
>>>>
>>>>  The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken 
>>>> several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the 
>>>> overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and 
>>>> return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the 
>>>>> only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium 
>>>>> Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 
>>>>> miles 
>>>>> all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly 
>>>>> riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels 
>>>>> are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. 
>>>>> There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from 
>>>>> chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the 
>>&

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

[Leif Eckstrom]

Leah, Marc, Pam, et. al.,
I'm loving the thought that I might just see a pack of Rivish Lone Wolf(s) 
on Le Tour De Shore this June. 
Registration is now open--with about 6 early-registration priced tickets 
left as of this morning, Tuesday, Feb 13.
https://www.bikereg.com/letourdeshore
Please DM if you need any help with logistics or planning on the Chicago 
side of the ride. 
Best,
Leif 

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:

> Amtrak has been working hard the past ten years to make affordable bike 
> transport available and on all it's trains.
>
> Marc
>
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:22:07 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It’s unfortunate that this country never has, and never will embrace 
>> multi-modal transportation. Just think of all the biking possibilities that 
>> could be available to so many more of us, and not just those who live in 
>> major metropolitan areas. 
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm 
>> Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on 
>> Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, 
>> and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other 
>> dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a 
>> bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>>
>> I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some 
>> discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which 
>> trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, 
>> etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done 
>> this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?
>>
>> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!
>>> The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see 
>>> it now.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah, 
>>>
>>>  The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken 
>>> several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the 
>>> overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and 
>>> return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the 
>>>> only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium 
>>>> Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles 
>>>> all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly 
>>>> riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels 
>>>> are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. 
>>>> There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. 
>>>> Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical 
>>>> headaches. 
>>>> I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new 
>>>> friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and 
>>>> moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago 
>>>> should you like. 
>>>>
>>>> More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763
>>>>
>>>> Best, 
>>>> Leif in Chicago
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading 
>>>>> about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and 
>>>>> difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great 
>>>>> thread to read in the dead of a Michig

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, 

There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park 
to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all 
told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most 
camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another 
option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. 
There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. 
Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical 
headaches. 
I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. 
Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks 
to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. 

More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763

Best, 
Leif in Chicago

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about 
> the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult 
> logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. 
>
> Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to 
> read in the dead of a Michigan winter.
> Leah
>
> On Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:
>
> If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they 
> haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be 
> nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  
>
>
> I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting 
> it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site 
> quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I 
> had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but 
> tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together 
> with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A 
> lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers 
> and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the 
> luggage service side of the trip.  
>
> However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with 
> strangers every evening.  
>
> One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off 
> of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  
>
> The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you 
> have a power bank available.  
>
> Good luck,
> Matt
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Who knows about Bike Film Festival? 
>>
>> I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money 
>> well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard 
>> of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure 
>> out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And 
>> I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene 
>> AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even 
>> know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!
>>
>> There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a 
>> “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state 
>> after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike 
>> in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with 
>> fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the 
>> others?
>>
>> Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of 
>> dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. 
>> This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many 
>> riders moving through tiny host towns.
>>
>> I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really 
>> is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s 
>> Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Searching for bike akin to Quickbeam

[Leif Eckstrom]

Brian,
That Trek/Crust conversion sounds awesome. Please post some pictures if 
you're able. Also, does the Spark fork offer clearance for 650b x 48mm, no 
fender? I believe the listing says something like perfect for 38-42mm 
tires. 
Thanks,
Leif in Chicago

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-5 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I'm currently working on a 1983 Trek 640 fixed 650b conversion. I'm using 
> the Crust Spark fork and Velocity Atlas rims, and 42mm Paselas. I had the 
> Quickbeam in mind with this build, but the low trail fork kinda makes it 
> not-Quickbeam-ish, but the canti bosses and rock mounts adds Riv-ish 
> versatility. 
>
> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 3:00:18 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry, I didn't see that lugged was a requirement. At least all of 
>> these have a lugged fork!
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 2:58 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> For new, the Surly Cross Check is probably the closest competitor, but 
>>> it's up to $700 for the frameset now, or $950 complete.
>>>
>>> The BMC Monstercross is like a CC with 0.1mm thinner tubing and worse 
>>> cable routing. It's a few hundred more for the frameset.
>>>
>>> I've had both of these frame, and a QB, and put some comparison thoughts 
>>> here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2019/05/rivendell-quickbeam-vs-surly-cross.html
>>>
>>> I may try a Handsome Devil next. Almost down to your price range ($550 
>>> or so), with a bit quicker handling than anything listed above.
>>>
>>> I've looked at a couple of used Le Tours, but the top tubes seemed very 
>>> short on these. Maybe 57cm for a 25" frame? Anyway, something to check.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 9:46 AM James  wrote:
>>>
 I have wanted a quick beam for a while now but the cost of a 3rd 
 rivendell is holding me back, so I'm looking for a similar frame.  Anyone 
 have any suggestions on a steel, lugged, horizontal dropout (front or rear 
 facing), fairly large wheel diameter bike?  One I could get for $500 max?? 
  
 I have my eyes on a Schinn LeTour III and the only thing causing me pause 
 is tire clearance (35mm) .  Thanks for any suggestions.  (I have a 92cm 
 PBH 
 for anyone between NC and RI) 

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[RBW] Silver2 thumbies ARE NOT compatible with VO thumb shifter mounts

[Leif Eckstrom]

Thanks for checking, Joe! And thanks to you, too, Doug for the reminder about 
the Paul mount working but only as a temporary bodge. 
I’ll keep waiting for the full RIV set up. 
Best, 
Leif

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[RBW] Silver2 thumbies ARE NOT compatible with VO thumb shifter mounts

[Leif Eckstrom]

Thanks for the correction and the photo. 

Does anyone know if the XOXO RIV 2.0 shifters might fit on old Suntour XCPRO 
thumb mounts? I also can’t remember if the RIV designed thumb shifter mounts 
arrived and sold out, or if they’re still in transit. I’ve searched blug n 
blahg but haven’t been able to locate any updates. 
Thanks, 
Leif in Chicago

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[RBW] Was Riv brakes, Now help for the ham-fisted

[Leif Eckstrom]

Bill, thanks for bringing up the tendency among home mechanics to over-tighten 
fittings on bikes. I suspect I fall into this group at times, and I’m wondering 
if you or other experienced mechanics might offer some other examples like this 
one of the grub screw that are frequently found to be too tight on bikes set up 
by the autodidact set.  

I realize that hand feel, as well as material strength and design, are tough to 
describe textually or comprehensively, but if you have any other tips I’d 
appreciate it. 

I appreciated learning, for instance, the trick of tightening quick release 
levers on wheels so that they make a slight indent on your palm when closing. 
One can also check that the quick release isn’t so tight that it stops the hub 
from oscillating back and forth after spinning away it’s momentum in the stand. 

What about quill stem bolts? I’ve read it’s preferable that brake levers are 
not so tight that they can’t rotate and break if the bike crashes or falls 
over. Is the same true with stem bolts? Not so tight that the wedge damages the 
steerer tube, but just tight enough that handlebar doesn’t rotate in clamp or 
stem within steerer tube? Certain vintage seat post bolts can break if over 
tightened. That’s an object lesson you hope you only have to learn once. 

Any other examples that spring to mind? 

Thanks, 
Leif in Chicago

P.S. In a previous thread about a Tektro straddle cable that features two grub 
screws, Bill Lindsay wrote: “Given most home mechanics' tendency to radically 
overtighten everything, I worry about people damaging their straddle cable by 
overtightening these unnecessary grub screws.”

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose threadless, Rivet, cantis, derailers, uplift

[Leif Eckstrom]

As a long-time admirer of Joe’s bike and bike-jewelry redistribution scheme, 
I’m happy to say this Mavic derailleur will shift a TA double, however 
anachronistically and gloriously, on a 1973 Jack Taylor Tour of Britain with 
French aspirations. 
Thanks for the munificence, Joe. 
Best, 
Leif in Chicago

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[RBW] Re: White Industries 650B front wheel

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hi, 
I’ll take this front wheel if still available. Please PM with payment details. 
I’m in Chicago, 60660. 
Thanks, 
Leif

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> Nearly New front wheel. White Industries T11 front hub, Velocity A23 tubeless 
> ready rim. 32 spoke double-butted, taped and ready for tubeless setup. $100 
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[RBW] Re: Frustrated by RBW lack of inventory

[Leif Eckstrom]

I was glad to see the heavier crane bell spring was back in stock. I know some 
people were waiting for that. I ordered a pair, along with 4 rolls of newbaums 
in teal. For those interested, there are new colors of newbaums in stock. 
Best, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] WTB: 1 5mm Brass Ferrule

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hi Conway, 
I just ordered a bag from Rivendell this morning. Happy to give you one once it 
arrives. Might also have one tucked away in a bike part box if you need one 
sooner. 
Best, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] People and places and thoughts...

[Leif Eckstrom]

I had a similar thought recently. I miss posts by pondero and Mark Reimer (?) 
and others who might no longer own Rivs. No doubt they’re still riding with 
plenty of Riv spirit and gusto. While riv ownership is not required to 
participate in the group, I imagine ride reports on other bikes might seem 
off-topic. Hopefully, they’re still reading along with us. 
Best, 
Leif in Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr. Build - Ready to ride, if not complete

[Leif Eckstrom]

Gorgeous. What are those interrupter levers? Modern guidonet levers of some 
kind? Look awesome. Would love to hear about functionality of those levers once 
you get some miles in on this bike. 
Thanks, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones brake choices

[Leif Eckstrom]

Cool. Standard reach gran Compe centerpulls are rare enough. I had no idea 
there was a long reach version. Is it something like 55-70 mm reach? Looks 
fantastic 

Thanks, 
Leif
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[RBW] Re: 57 cm Blue Frank Jones Sr

[Leif Eckstrom]

Love those beautiful pedals, cranks, and hubs/wheels!
Lil drillium, lil French love. What a cool build, Laing. 
Thanks for the photos. 
Leif
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[RBW] MAFAC brake DIY light mount article?

[Leif Eckstrom]

I remember it as a Weinmann or a dia-compe centerpull arm. I also remember 
Anton T. having a photo of this on his Flickr account. Hopefully those two 
leads will help your search. 
Best, 
Leif
Chicago. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[Leif Eckstrom]

Thanks, Garth, this is helpful. I have the same levers as you, the RX 4.1 
for road diameter bar ends. Your response confirms that all of the brake 
calipers I tried these with levers were likely a poor fit and that the 
fault of the misfit likely resides with the caliper and not the lever, or 
with my setup of the calipers, perhaps. I used the tiny Diacompe cantilever 
(model number escapes me, but 80s production, and inferior to the design of 
all the cantilevers you mentioned, i.e., not the good 986 diacompe or the 
NGC cantilevers), universal side pulls (I've now read that these calipers 
required a good deal of lever pull even by vintage standards), and dura ace 
center pulls with these levers and had mediocre results. I do like how 
little real estate they occupy, however, and didn't really want to give up 
on them for future builds.
Best,
Leif 
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[Leif Eckstrom]

Garth, I like what you're saying about bar end brake levers, but are there good 
levers to buy?
 I've tried the tektro 3.2x or whatever they're called, but I ran out of lever 
pull with cantis, side pulls, and centerpulls. NB, these were all vintage 
calipers, so perhaps these Tektro bar end brake levers are designed for modern 
dual pivot side pulls. 
I'd like to hear more about specific lever and brake caliper pairings and 
performance if possible. I'd love for BEBL to be a real build option in the 
future but I've largely written off the tektro levers for underwhelming 
performance. 
Thanks, 
Leif
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[RBW] WTT: Bar End Pods for Thumbie Mounts

[Leif Eckstrom]

I missed out on Tim's recent trade request and was hoping someone else might 
have thumbie mounts (black or silver fine) and need bar end pods. I've got a 
new set of the silver brand pods to offer in trade, or the used Suntour 
bar-ends if that's more enticing. Private message if possible. 
Thanks, 
Leif in Chicago

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT Bar End Pods/Thumbie Mounts

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hey Tim!
I'd love to make this trade. 
Thanks,
Leif in Chicago

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 1:42:23 PM UTC-5, Timothy Orr wrote:
>
> Hey! 
>
> I'm hoping to swap my IRD/Silver thumbies for some bar end pods. Anyone 
> interested in a trade? I'd also be willing to buy some bar end pods. The 
> Riv site won't have them back in until after a mini-tour I have planned. 
>
> Thanks to everyone who reached out from my previous post! 
> Tim O. 
> Portland, OR
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Re: [RBW] iBert with drops - workable?

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+1, drops might work, but an albatross with positive rise will give more 
clearance for kid's knees and shoes. Important when kid grows. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Leif Eckstrom]

Thanks, Glen. Love the Vice pedal. They have black and silver colors for 
$30. I picked up a silver pair.


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[RBW] WTB: Tektro R559 brakes, nutted bolt version, 55-73mm

[Leif Eckstrom]

Anybody have a used pair of these? I feel like I should give them a shot on 
at least one vintage 650b conversion. "Silver" brand would be just fine as 
well. Silver color preferred. Nutted bolt (vs. recessed) needed. 

Thanks and please respond off-list if possible at leifeckstrom "at" gmail 
"dot" com,
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[RBW] Re: FT: TRP EuroX cantilever brakes for Albatross bar

[Leif Eckstrom]

Forgot to add that I'd also be interested in trading for Tektro R559 (55-73 
mm drop) calipers with the nutted bolts for older, non-recessed frames. 

Thanks,
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[RBW] FT: TRP EuroX cantilever brakes for Albatross bar

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hi Folks,

I picked these up recently at a bike swap, and neglected to notice that a 
straddle cable carrier and barrel adjusting hardware for one brake was 
missing. This is easily rectifiable, but will cost you some extra money. 
The needed parts are available on Amazon for about $25-32 shipped, or you 
might have some of it already, like the ubiquitous tektro yoke or another 
brand/style that will work instead. 
(https://www.amazon.com/TRP-EuroX-Barrel-Adjuster-Kit/dp/B009IJBJFY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8=1486739802=8-1-fkmr0=trp%2Beurox%2Bhardware=1)

Since I don't have an immediate use for these brakes, I'm hoping someone 
would like to trade for an aluminum albatross bar or ahearne + map bar. I'd 
really like to try the Albatross bar, and I want to use MTN Levers on a 
commuter build. I'd also consider the Jitensha bar or maybe a VO bar, 
porteur or postino in 22.2 (mtn. bar diameter). 

About the brakes: New Take Offs. No marks that I can see; still have 
factory grease and loctite on the hardware. *Caveat*: One brake needs 
additional parts (see above).

Gun Metal Grey. Be like Mark, who has these on his Custom Cross with Spooky 
hardware: Rt4FrPuQRJuYg2M2lpwO 

(or: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/marks-staff-bikes)

Photo link for brakes I'm 
trading: https://www.flickr.com/photos/9015075@N02/albums/72157678371422671

Thanks. Private message if possible (leifeckstrom "at" gmail "dot" com). 
I'm in Chicago (Andersonville, north side) if you'd like to meet up.
Best,
Leif


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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

[Leif Eckstrom]

Ah, very nice looking. Thanks! Will have to try that myself. Love the look. 
Does the shellac make the cork sticky or does it dry and feel similar to 
shellac on cloth tape? 
Hope you're loving the new digs. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

[Leif Eckstrom]

David, 
What's the material on the grips of the Clem in the second photo? Leather 
wrapped over cork? Looks great!
Thanks, 
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hi, I might be wrong here, but are the Ergon grips set up so the wedge supports 
your palm? In the photo it looks like the widest part is facing down rather 
than horizontal to support the lower part of your hand. I haven't used ergons 
but I thought they were designed for wider, horizontal support. Great build!

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[RBW] Re: FS: TA Specialites, PAUL, Merino Jersey, Nitto, VO, Tektro, Jagwire

[Leif Eckstrom]

Quick update:

Sold/sold pending funds: PAUL levers, VO decaleur, the Jagwire tandem 
cables and the Jagwire Road Pro Complete Set. These items will be priority 
shipped tomorrow, Thursday. 


What remains:
Prices do not include shipping, but they have been lowered slightly, and I 
will ship at cheapest cost. Figure Max $10 CONUS for Priority Mail from 
Chicago. Combined shipping and local pickup heartily approved.

 

1. Giro New Road Merino (89% merino, 11% nylon) Crew Neck T-Shirt – retro 
jersey vibe, but not too PRO-school.

Grey heather with oatmeal colored panel. Sewn in California.

Short Sleeves, 1 T-shirt-style front pocket, 3 pockets in back for le bidon 
collé, tubes, and/or encased meats.

*$60*, New, Size Large (slim fitting, but not lycra-slim): bottom of pit to 
bottom of pit across the front, 22 inches; front length, down the center, 
23 inches; back length, down the center, 27 ¾”.

 

2. T.A. Specialites Alize Crank Arms

165 mm length, 130 BCD

*$70*, Used, some small, shallow scratches in anodizing; threads look good.

Silver anodizing on the arms are just a bit brighter than that on Nitto 
pearl or deluxe stems.

*+$8*, a used 9/10-speed T.A. Alize Chainring, 53T, with ramps and pins. 
(No chain ring bolts or crank bolts.)

  

3. Tektro RL-340, new, black hoods and silver levers

*$13*, new

 

4. Tektro RL-340, used, black hoods and silver levers

*$10*, used minimally.

 

5. Nitto Technomic, 50mm extension, 25.4mm clamp diameter

*$18*, Used, the high and tight of stems: not pretty but gets the job done.


6. Finally, it seems the would-be Titanium King Cage was but a usurper of 
origins unknown. I don't have a digital scale accurate enough to measure 
its true weight, so its value as a titanium cage is also rather unknown. 
Probably best to remove it from the sales table. It's certainly nice enough 
for me. 


Photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9015075@N02/albums/72157671995275214/with/30524040696/

 

Additional photos/information upon request. Please correspond off-list 
whenever possible; kindly email me at leifeckst...@gmail.com ; Paypal 
friends & family preferred, but fees aren’t a dealbreaker. Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB: 650b front wheel and MAP + Ahearne Bars

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hello,

I need a front wheel for a 650b conversion for a rim-braked commuter. I've 
got a Velocity dyad for the rear in silver, so a 32h or 36h dyad or a23 
silver front wheel would be ideal. 
I'd also be interested in a pacenti rimmed front wheel in 32 or 36h, or 
possibly a wheelset if the rear is 120, 126, or 130 and the price is right. 
Please let me know what you've got.

I've seen the ZAC19 wheelset that's super cheap on eBay through the uglyrhm 
seller, but hoping someone here has something that they're not using. If 
not, uglyrhm is my fall back plan.

I'd also like to try the wider 61.5 cm Ahearne + Map bars. Off-list 
messages welcomed. 

Thank you!
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Silver DT shifters on Simplex band braze ons?

[Leif Eckstrom]

PS: seller on eBay has the retrofit huret bands for simplex shifters. 

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[RBW] Re: Silver DT shifters on Simplex band braze ons?

[Leif Eckstrom]

>From what I understand the lower end simplex bands could be either ISO 
>standard M5x0.8 thread or a now little used/seldom found batard/ coarse 
>thread. Not sure where prestige line would land.  If ISO, then the length 
>should be about 20 mm, and a button head socket screw in rounded profile 
>should be easy to find in stainless. I assume if you have braze on mounts they 
>would be threaded to ISO. 

On Flickr, verktyg gives great details about these shifters, And the bands they 
came with and can be retrofitted to. 

Here's one direct link: https://flic.kr/p/a2py7V
Read around in that album. Also, there's a guy selling old huret bands tapped 
to iso for either downtube shifters or sti stops. Around $15. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hah. Yeah, those pants. Electric salmon or something. 

Thanks for the shield suggestions. Early planning included the idea for 
chloroplast shields zip tied to bike and rack struts, but nicer weather 
prevailed. I've got some old cannondale panniers I can add behind the pegs. 
I had her try to put her foot in the spokes (without the wheel moving, of 
course) and the various struts and her leg length do a good job of 
preventing that (at least in theory). The accident reports remind us that 
weird stuff does still happen and I should make more of an effort to 
protect from the worst. 

Consensus seems to be that behind peg is the area to shield? I see Edwin 
says between struts. The panniers would handle both rear of rack struts and 
between but not in front. Edwin's lacing idea sounds really effective too. 
Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. 

I'll follow up with another picture once I mount the panniers. 

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[RBW] Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hello listers,


I wanted to share this kid-hauling project that was inspired by ideas and 
goods presented on this list, the blug, and such. I'm really happy with how 
it turned out. It's very comfortable, surprisingly steady, and heartily 
kid-approved. I think this set-up would only be improved on a bike with 
actual riv-designed features: Looong top tube and longer wheelbase, for 
starters. My seat is set low to compensate for small amount of clearance 
behind the kid in front. Not really much of an imposition though; this is 
easily my best minivan yet. Nevertheless, the stretched Clems and 
Appaloosas would be even better, I imagine. 


Anyway, if you're interested in what's what:

Front carrier: iBert, also recommend the Tot toter, if just carrying one.

Rear: steel tandem stoker stem bought from list-member Sean (thanks 
again!); old riser bars cut down for aero tucks; Newbaums in kid A's 
favorite color (eggplant); (bar-ends have been appropriately corked by the 
by; twine to be applied soon); swim noodle and zip ties--totally stolen 
from Grant P or whoever thought of those ideas in the bar wrap vid--but in 
celeste, the fastest color; older Portland Design Works Payload rack with 
steel tubes and a nicely oversize, half-circle of extra tubing near the 
bottom--designed for bungee or pannier attachment but here holds the fender 
washers, bolt, and drilled n cut down hand rail segments, making the new 
old-school foot pegs. Naturally, the pegs were shellacked. I think that's 
it. Thanks for all the inspiration, ideas, and parts swapping over the 
years. 

Best,

Leif

Chicago









 



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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[Leif Eckstrom]

Yes, totally agree that this looks fantastic--well done! Do you mind 
sharing more details about how you painted the head tube? materials and 
techniques, esp. over powder coat, I presume. Thanks again for sharing (and 
restoring)!
--leif

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 1:19:53 PM UTC-5, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Wow! Beautiful color. Beautiful head tube. Beautiful everything.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Tubus Vega Evo rack in Silver

[Leif Eckstrom]

Sold, pending payment. Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Tubus Vega Evo rack in Silver

[Leif Eckstrom]

Bump with price drop: Silver Tubus Vega Evo rack, $95 plus shipping through 
bike flights.
This rack seems ideal for the appaloosas about to be released. 

Thank you! 
Leif in Chicago, IL

Details and photos repeated below:


I have a new silver Tubus rack that I bought for a vintage, Riv-inspired 
> commuter, not realizing that Tubus carriers are designed for modern dropout 
> spacings of 130 OLN or greater. 
>
> The minimalist Vega Evo rack offers generous clearances for 65 mm wide 
> fenders or 60 mm tires (designed to fit 26" to 700c frames) and an 
> exceptional carrying capacity (55 pounds) for a rack that weighs about 560 
> grams. Tubus provides dimensional drawings if you have questions about the 
> fit or design. See: 
> http://www.tubus.com/documents/1391438739_Vega_evo_9120149_BM.pdf
>
> The rack attaching hardware is included and comes in the white tube 
> photographed below. 
>
> The rack was scuffed slightly in shipping. I've tried to photograph that. 
> More photos available in this flickr album. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/9015075@N02/albums/72157662110781224  
> Will take more photos if necessary.
>
> I'm looking for $95 plus actual shipping (probably about $20 CONUS), and 
> happy to try out bikeflights.com, which other listers have recommended 
> for service and price. Local pickup in Chicago would be great too. Paypal 
> friends and family please. 
>
> As for trades, I'm looking for a pair of the recently closed-out, sold-out 
> Pacenti SL23 x 32h in 650b. Unlikely, I know, but magic frequently happens 
> on this list, so I have to ask. I'm looking for black but would take silver 
> SL23 or polished PL23 in the 2014 extrusion. I'm one of many, no doubt, who 
> foolishly thought he had more time to buy a pair of these rims when Pacenti 
> was closing them out at $40/rim. 
>
> If possible, please respond off-list to leifeckstrom at gee mail dot com. 
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Leif Eckstrom
> Chicago, IL 60660
>
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[RBW] FS/FT: Tubus Vega Evo rack in Silver

[Leif Eckstrom]

Hello,

I have a new silver Tubus rack that I bought for a vintage, Riv-inspired 
commuter, not realizing that Tubus carriers are designed for modern dropout 
spacings of 130 OLN or greater. 

The minimalist Vega Evo rack offers generous clearances for 65 mm wide 
fenders or 60 mm tires (designed to fit 26" to 700c frames) and an 
exceptional carrying capacity (55 pounds) for a rack that weighs about 560 
grams. Tubus provides dimensional drawings if you have questions about the 
fit or design. 
See: http://www.tubus.com/documents/1391438739_Vega_evo_9120149_BM.pdf

The rack attaching hardware is included and comes in the white tube 
photographed below. 

The rack was scuffed slightly in shipping. I've tried to photograph that. 
More photos available in this flickr album. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/9015075@N02/albums/72157662110781224  
Will take more photos if necessary.

I'm looking for $105 plus actual shipping (probably about $20 CONUS), and 
happy to try out bikeflights.com, which other listers have recommended for 
service and price. Local pickup in Chicago would be great too. Paypal 
friends and family or I'll split Paypal fee with buyer. 

As for trades, I'm looking for a pair of the recently closed-out, sold-out 
Pacenti SL23 x 32h in 650b. Unlikely, I know, but magic frequently happens 
on this list, so I have to ask. I'm looking for black but would take silver 
SL23 or polished PL23 in the 2014 extrusion. I'm one of many, no doubt, who 
foolishly thought he had more time to buy a pair of these rims when Pacenti 
was closing them out at $40/rim. 

If possible, please respond off-list to leifeckstrom at gee mail dot com. 

Many thanks,

Leif Eckstrom
Chicago, IL 60660

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[RBW] Re: VO Constructeur Front Rack on a Ram - HELP

[Leif Eckstrom]

I'll echo what Bill says about how long it takes to mount this rack, and I 
likewise found myself wishing for double eyelets, however I'm glad I 
persevered since I like how it turned out and I learned a few things about 
working with stainless steel and mounting racks that I'm glad to know now. 

Background: I mounted this rack to a 700c 1979 Trek 930 with a Mafac 
Competition centerpull brake. The clearances were tight--likely similar or 
tighter than your Ram along with a similar fork rake. One possible 
difference in our set-ups: I don't know how easy it is to disassemble the 
PAUL centerpulls. Near the end of the project I found it useful to take off 
the Mafac brake arms while keeping the brake's backing plate and brake 
bolts and nuts assembled. I also didn't plan on mounting fenders with this 
rack given the tight front and rear clearances. I'm thinking of converting 
this bike to 650b at some point and would try fenders then. 

Mounting the rack: I tried two different approaches or mounting locations. 
Most online photos show folks mounting the tang to the brake bolt in front 
of the crown. While the Mafac centerpulls should make this an easier 
mounting choice, I found it difficult to make consecutive, tight bends in 
the stainless steel tang. What happened was that I would make a strong bend 
with the bench vise and try to hold other bends and angles stable with 
C-Clamps, but they would inevitably lose their necessary shape and assume a 
lesser angle. This didn't work well enough for me to make this a viable 
option. You also need to do some rough measuring and cutting of the rack 
tangs before you can begin to really get any precise idea of fit and this 
tends to make you commit to a mounting point around the brake before you 
really know if it's viable or not. So I eventually chose to mount the rack 
as VO recommends (and as I would now recommend) with a daruma bolt under 
the fork crown. The supplied VO daruma bolt was too long for me, but the 
MAFAC daruma bolts that hold the brake pads to the arms worked for my 
application and might work for yours too. If you mount it this way, the 
factory bend is pretty accurate, but the tang is too long, so you need to 
cut it before you can begin to see where you should drill a hole for the 
daruma bolt to connect to the rack. Another option that I would try is to 
cut off the tang altogether and use the Surly rear rack upper mounting kit. 
Someone did this recently with the VO porteur rack and I was thinking you 
could mount the rack to the PAUL or MAFAC brake arm bolts. See tenth photo 
down: 
http://www.nolifelikethislife.com/fairdaleweekender-tylerscaife-weekenderporteur/

In my case I cut the brake mounting tang shorter than would be ideal, but 
it worked out in the end--thanks, no doubt, to the ease with which Mafacs 
disassemble. Anyway, here are some photos and additional tips. Oh, I would 
recommend getting the rack mounted before adding the fourth mounting 
challenge of the fender. All of these mounting points (and a very limited 
adjustability for those mounting points) make this a time-consuming 
project. 
 
Tips: use bolt cutters for cutting tangs; realize that multiple or 
consecutive bends and angles on stainless steel tang are very difficult to 
execute. I bought the steel Tubus rack mounting extension kit for dropout 
eyelets hoping this would compensate for bad angles of bottom eyelets at 
drop-outs. Didn't work for this application.  
Tools used: 
For bending tangs: bench vice and c-clamps and various pliers
For cutting stays and tang: bolt cutters
For drilling tang: center punch or spring loaded punch, series of drill 
bits--start with smaller bits and work up to 7/32 inch or 1/4 inch bit, 
 deburr with circular and flat files, cobalt tipped drill bits recommended 
for drilling stainless. 

Photos of my 
install: https://www.flickr.com/photos/9015075@N02/albums/72157662306907219
Best,
Leif
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Love my S1...

[Leif Eckstrom]

Bobby, 

How are the Guidonnet levers working with the canti brakes? Is that a pull 
adjuster you've added to both brake lines? I'd like to improve the performance 
of some tektro inverse levers that have had inadequate pull with both 
centerpulls and old universal calipers. Want to try them with 80s diacompe 
cantilevers before giving up on them. Was curious if I Might need what you've 
got here, tho maybe those are leftover from when you were running V-brakes.
Thanks, 
Leif

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Leif Eckstrom]

Jim and Tim--would you mind commenting about possible  customs or taxes charged 
for those parts you ordered from Germany? Did you keep orders under $200 to 
avoid this? 

I'm looking for tips and experiences ordering parts from Europe or Japan to 
u.s., if others have any information to share. I'm trying to help a neighbor 
build a touring bike from an 80s mtn bike frame, so the exchange rate could be 
a windfall for his project. 
Thanks!
Leif

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