[RBW] Re: Pick your paint Hunq

[Lucero]

Greetings! Soon-to-be owner of the “Pick your paint Hunq” checking in. 
Here’s the story: 

I dropped by Rivendell HQ on Thursday afternoon (my birthday) to test ride 
an Appaloosa. I was curious to see how much of my Hunqapillar thirst could 
be quenched by a more reasonably-priced Appaloosa. Will fixed up a pair 46 
and 51 demo Appaloosas to fit my 80 PBH and sent me off for a few test 
rides. Everything you’ve read is true, the extra long stays/wheelbase 
really do make for a supremely stable (comfortable!) ride that would be 
perfect for long days in the saddle.

As the Appaloosa test rides came to an end, a giddy-lookin’ Will, who was 
now joined by a giddy-lookin’ Roman, welcomed me back into the showroom. 
The duo sensed that a Hunqa was what I was really after because of my 
growing penchant for dirt and, perhaps because it was my birthday, offered 
me first dibs on a warehouse find that was to become a Friday 
newsletter-announced web special: an unpainted (i.e. "Pick your paint"), 
48cm v1/Toyo Hunqapillar.

What luck! I was strongly considering the 51 cm Appaloosa, but a Hunq at 
"the nice price” (again, v1 Toyo Hunq) in a Rivendell-approved color of my 
choice was a serious no-brainer. Great birthday, I’d say. As for the paint, 
I have yet to finalize but I’m strongly considering giving it the Atlantis 
treatment...

Cheers,
Michael

On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> The Riv newsletter I received today alluded to this in the subject, but 
> there were no details in the newsletter. Anyone know the scoop? An AHH-blue 
> Hunqapillar (maybe with a top tube a few cm longer than stock) is my dream 
> Rivendell. 
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: A question for Soma San Marcos Owners (V2 in Tiburon blue)

[Lucero]

My 51 cm San Marcos splits the difference. 1st generation banana bend fork, 
2nd generation Tiburon blue paint, 2nd generation mid-fork eyelets. I'm 
running 42mm Compass Babyshoe Pass (actual 40-41mm) under my fenders.

On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 5:51:38 PM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I am considering a San Marcos frame before they are all gone specifically 
> a 54cm frame for 650b wheels and I have a few questions for anyone who 
> might own a version running 650b wheels a version 2 in 57cm or smaller or a 
> version 1 San Marcos in 51cm or smaller:
>
>
>- what model and size of tires are you running?
>- If you run fenders what type and what size tires do you run with 
>your fenders -the data says the max tire size is 38c but I am wondering if 
>that is with or without tires?
>- what do you like/dislike about this frame?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

While the previously mounted Schwalbe Marathons are tops in terms of 
durability and reliability (i.e. they're bomb-proof), the Compass tires 
easily outclass them in terms of pure ride quality. Between weighing 
roughly two lbs less per set and being constructed of much more supple 
casing, I am finding all the praise Compass tires get regarding speed and 
comfort to be justified. FYI for those interested, my calipers measure the 
week-old set at about 40.5 mm.

My only other tire comparison in 650b would be the Soma B-line, which is 
essentially a 38mm Pasela. The Marathons and B-lines would serve as great 
tires for many practical applications, but this new set of Babyshoe Pass 
tires has me simultaneously riding faster AND enjoying the ride much more.

Will report back on these tires after a few months of zipping around on 
mixed terrain...

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-7, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Any comment on the tires so far?

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders:

<http://i.imgur.com/BfAQxDo.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/lA5JuvB.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/JwFuXCY.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/NAk2gOl.jpg>



Awesome ride is now more awesome.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders. Awesome 
ride is now more awesome.

<http://i.imgur.com/BfAQxDo.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/lA5JuvB.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/JwFuXCY.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/NAk2gOl.jpg>






On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Swapped in Compass Babyshoe Pass tires under VO snakeskin fenders. Awesome 
ride now more awesome.

<http://i.imgur.com/lA5JuvB.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/JwFuXCY.jpg>


<http://i.imgur.com/NAk2gOl.jpg>




On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv's love child - new build

[lucero]

Good job with this build - hammered honjos are always a nice touch. Are you 
running new xpress or b-lines under them? How would you say the San Marcos 
compares to the Rambouillet? I'm four months in with my San Marcos and am 
not sure the honeymoon phase will ever end, banana bend fork and all. Enjoy!

Michael
SF / CA

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:01:34 AM UTC-7, se...@austin.utexas.edu wrote:
>
> Finally got my new San Marcos built up. Velocity Atlas, Suzue Classica, 
> Nitto, Honjo, IRD, Brooks, and Carradice/Sackville to hold my stuff. Just 
> need to add some King Iris cages and I'll be set. Took it out for a brief 
> shakedown over the weekend. As one would expect, it has that smooth ride 
> inherent in GP's design methodology. So glad to have the ride quality back 
> reminiscent of my former Rambouillet.
>
> Sean
> ATX
>
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[lucero]

Thanks!

I believe the fork styling was switched to a tight, low bend at some point 
in 2015. I bought my San Marcos frameset new in April 2015, so I must have 
gotten one of the last 2014 frames laying around. If I knew the fork change 
was coming I would have held off a few months, but the banana bend is 
aesthetically pleasing in its own right IMO.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 11:35:55 AM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
>
> Nice bikes, guys. I noticed that Phillip's fork has a more French-style 
> bend to it.
>

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[lucero]

Here's how this Amos looks after a few weeks of tinkering:

<http://i.imgur.com/8sAc8ww.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/rhtvlC0.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/t9OKxbK.jpg>

<http://i.imgur.com/k83yX01.jpg>

I raised the bars up nice and high and mounted Mark's rack with a medium 
Wald. In the original photoset you might have noticed a slight dip in the 
fender line below the fork crown. I opened up more front fender clearance 
by:

   - replacing the L-shaped fender mounting bracket with a fork crown daruma
   - swapping the Tektro R559 out for a Paul Racer

I'm happy with the results. Kudos to Box Dog Bikes for the help.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

[Lucero]

I bought a new San Marcos frame about 8 months ago. Must have been a 
'tweener, as it's the newer tiburon blue with mid-fork braze ons on the 
older banana bend fork: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY

On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 8:20:00 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> That new model San Marcos fork looks like it has more of a nice bend than 
> the earlier sky blue version. Did they change the fork style for the new 
> version? 
>

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[RBW] A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY

The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.

Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.

A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
equation.

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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[Lucero]

Thanks, everyone!

Philip, I definitely had to get creative to mount the front fender. At the 
time I was thinking I could use a Paul Racer or a Dia Compe Mod 750 up 
front. Glad to hear the Racer works for you. Beautiful bike!

Tim, feel free to drop those new photos into this thread if/when you snap 
them. Looks like an awesome build. I feel the understated Tiburon Blue 
suits me better, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think the original 
pearly blue was gorgeous. Sorry to hear about the front rack and pannier 
situation, sounds like you need a matching set.

Linda, it's there, but to be honest I never thought of or noticed it until 
you asked. Thanks to the 650b and the expanded geometry, toe overlap is 
minimal.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, Lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
>

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