Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar to Albatross bar on 70’s Schwinn Paramount

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Bill,
A 58 Homer would have been a better fit for my PBH 89.   That’s an a little
closer but probably not enough. I’m going to check into it anyway for
grins. The Paramount is such a beautiful frame. Thanks for your
comments.
Regards,
Lyman

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 5:18 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A 61.5 current Homer is a big-big bike.  Like an XXL.  A 56cm 1970s
> Paramount is barely a medium-sized bike.  In Stack and Reach terms, a 61.5
> Homer has Stack of 671mm and I'd wager a 56cm 1970s Paramount is around
> 550mm, so you'd need a stem that is approximately 12cm TALLER on the
> Paramount to get the bars in the same neighborhood.  The reach is probably
> going to be closer but still it's probably between 30-50mm shorter on the
> Paramount, so your stem that is 12cm taller would also need an extension
> that's up to 5cm longer.  Generally speaking, that would be a bizarre
> looking stem and the bike will likely handle pretty oddly.
>
> If the 61.5cm Homer is remotely "correct", that Paramount is WAY too
> small.  Like, not even close.  If you fit a 54.5cm A. Homer Hilsen, then
> making a 56cm Paramount fit would be pretty straightforward. Take some
> photos of the bikes next to each other.  Take some objective measurements
> to see for yourself, or try it out if you are eager for the experiment.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 2:16:06 PM UTC-7 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I ride a 61.5 Homer with albatross bars. I’m considering installing
>> Albatross bars on a 56 cm vintage road bike so I can ride it too.  What
>> stem could I use to get the bars high enough?
>> Thanks.
>> Lyman in Austin
>>
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[RBW] Drop bar to Albatross bar on 70’s Schwinn Paramount

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Hello,
I ride a 61.5 Homer with albatross bars. I’m considering installing
Albatross bars on a 56 cm vintage road bike so I can ride it too.  What
stem could I use to get the bars high enough?
Thanks.
Lyman in Austin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Blue Lug Build Catalog

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thanks for sharing the link
Lyman in ATX

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 5:21 PM Jay  wrote:

> Before I purchased a Riv I spent some time on their site, and those
> builds; really well done.  I watched their videos, including those in
> Japanese, and they're very enjoyable.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:14:41 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If you're wondering "How do I tastefully build and specify a bike?" this
>> is the *perfect* place to start. They also do a great job with the
>> photographs, some of the best out there.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah, this is a gallery I have bookmarked. So many great builds and
>>> lots and lots of inspiration. They always nail it, great ideas abound!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:27:09 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Many of you may already be aware of this, but Blue Lug has a nice
 catalog of all it's Riv Builds for customers. In the even you want some
 inspiration for your next build, or just want to see some different takes
 on each frame, have a look:

 https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/

 If you click the dropdown in the top right corner and scroll down to
 the Riv section you can even filter for specific models. Been super helpful
 as I accrue the things needed for my upcoming 56cm 2TT Sam I scored from
 Abe on here.

 Hopefully helpful for folks looking to build out that next frame or
 rebuild your old favorite!

 - Drew

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B-17 Special S2-11006

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Kim
Thank you. I’ll give them a call.
Lyman

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 8:56 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Layman-
>
> You might want to consult Simon, who repairs Brooks saddles at Transport
> Cycles for his advice here in the United States.
> https://www.transportcycle.com/
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-7 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>> The pin and shackle fell off my Brooks B17 saddle recently.  The saddle
>> was purchased from Rivendell and is less than 3 years old.  I asked Riv for
>> guidance but have not heard back from them.
>> Has anyone in the group experienced this problem?  Any guidance
>> appreciated.
>> Thank you,
>> Lyman in ATX
>>
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[RBW] Brooks B-17 Special S2-11006

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Hello All,
The pin and shackle fell off my Brooks B17 saddle recently.  The saddle was
purchased from Rivendell and is less than 3 years old.  I asked Riv for
guidance but have not heard back from them.
Has anyone in the group experienced this problem?  Any guidance appreciated.
Thank you,
Lyman in ATX

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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

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I rode RAGBRAI for the first time last year.  It was crazy and fun.
Pork Belly Ventures is a premier service for Ragbrai riders.  Check out
their website.
Lyman ATX

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 11:03 AM Matt Beecher  wrote:

> If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they
> haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be
> nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.
>
> I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting
> it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site
> quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I
> had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but
> tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together
> with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A
> lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers
> and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the
> luggage service side of the trip.
>
> However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with
> strangers every evening.
>
> One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off
> of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.
>
> The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you
> have a power bank available.
>
> Good luck,
> Matt
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Who knows about Bike Film Festival?
>>
>> I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money
>> well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard
>> of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure
>> out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And
>> I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene
>> AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even
>> know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!
>>
>> There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a
>> “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state
>> after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike
>> in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with
>> fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the
>> others?
>>
>> Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of
>> dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on.
>> This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many
>> riders moving through tiny host towns.
>>
>> I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really
>> is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s
>> Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] RAGBRAI 2023 50th Anniversary Ride

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I rode for the first time on my Homer.  I recall seeing a Saluki, Homers,
 an Atlantis, a couple of Hillbornes, a Heron, a Rambouillet, and a Frank
Gomez (I think it was). I met a gentleman mid-week who recently retired
from Waterford. Fun week.
Lyman in ATX

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 3:01 PM R. Alexis  wrote:

> RBW List Members,
>
> I had a chance to ride the first day of RAGBRAI late last month. Things
> aligned that I had that weekend off and then discovered the first day of
> RAGBRAI was that Sunday and that it was the 50th anniversary of the ride.
> Found out that late Friday and thought about it. After thinking of doing a
> possible century that Saturday and not doing it I decided to jump in and do
> the first day of RAGBRAI that Sunday and also do a century by turning
> around at the second to last stop and going back. By my calculations doing
> so would have put me at the century mark. First day was 71 miles to the end
> city.
>
> I was on the Rivendell Mountain. Met some list RBW/iBOB members along the
> way. Names escape me. There was three of them, I think all from the Chicago
> area. One riding a 650B converted Trek stating he had just gotten an
> Appaloosa earlier in the week, another on a Sam Hillborne and the other on
> a Bridgestone RB-T or T 1000.
>
> I fell short of my goal. In doubling back I calculated I got to 64 miles.
> Should have just rode to the end and hitched a ride back. Still enjoyed
> doing the ride. If I do it again will definitely be more prepared.
>
> Reginald Alexis
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Re: [RBW] RAGBRAI L

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I plan to ride my Homer

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 2:51 PM Michael Moore, Jr. 
wrote:

> Not this year, but I hope to bring my Bleriot in 2024 or 2025. I hear
> great things. Have fun!
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> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 12:21 PM Rusty Click  wrote:
>
>> Anyone bringing their Riv to Iowa for RAGBRAI this year??
>> Every year, I see a few and have met a few (Hello Julian), and would like
>> to maybe meet over some "Church Lady" pie and a cold refreshment!
>>
>> Rusty
>> Pgh,PA
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Re: [RBW] Hattiesburg MS Riv Ride

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Hello
I cycled LongLeaf Trace last month in a loop that included backroads
 through Laurel. You might try Bandits BBQ in Sumrall on the trail.
Lyman

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:54 AM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> A couple of us unracers have hit upon 5/20/23 as the date for a relaxed
> pedal on the Longleaf Trace from Hattiesburg, MS. A coffee/etc stop will
> definitely be available somewhere along our way.  Company is certainly
> welcome. We haven't confirmed the start time, but will. If weather looks
> like an issue, we will discuss a re-schedule date.
>
> Tailwinds!
> Bruce
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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Fall Foliage Fotos 2022

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Beautiful.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:59 AM Takashi  wrote:

> Eric, yellow carpet beneath the gingko tree looks so heavenly!
>
> Bob's pictures of Rahway River are also great. I've never been into
> canoeing, but those pictures make me want to try it.
>
> Here are a few photos from a week ago and yesterday.
> It seemed like the last chance to enjoy fall foliage around here.
>
>
> Takashi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers and road touring

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Incremental and common sense approach to touring on a Homer. This is an
amazing group. Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful and diverse
feedback.
Lyman in Austin

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 11:28 PM Piaw Na(藍俊彪)  wrote:

> Not to mention since when you bought the Homer the chainstays have gotten
> longer. Also, a lot depends on your pedaling style. If you mash the pedals
> you put a lot more strain on the bike than if you sit and spin.
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 8:04 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
>> I have a Waterford Homer, 54 cm, and I weigh 150 lbs.  I put about 30 lbs
>> of groceries in panniers in the back and the bike felt great, and if I knew
>> what "planing" was, then I would say the bike was planing because it felt
>> springy when I was out of the saddle.  If I were 180 lbs and 30 lbs in the
>> back, then maybe it would get noodlely?
>>
>> Why not just load up the bike and see how it feels.  For me, I'm sure it
>> would work great...
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 3:25 PM Mike Godwin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a MUSA Homer years ago, 2005-ish or so. With a Nitto rear rack, my
>>> return trip from TJs with both panniers loaded displayed whippy behavior.
>>> OK for the short rides from the grocery store or TJs, but I would not like
>>> handling even for a S24H. Frame was 61 cm for your consideration.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>> On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:18:59 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Except that the OP is specifically asking about his Homer. Not to nit
 pick ...

 Ryan (retired software developer/current linguistics student...so you
 know where I'm coming from)

 On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:27:21 AM UTC-5 Greg J wrote:

> I would not hesitate to tour on the Sam, although I suppose it depends
> on what you're carrying and how long you're going for.  I've toured on a
> Rambouillet and a Road Standard with a full set of panniers on weeklong
> trips, and it was fine.  You say "road touring," so I assume you're not
> planning on carrying a week's worth of food, etc. With a reasonable load,
> the Sam should be fine - try it and report back!
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:22:03 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> The AHH uses Oversized (OS) tubing (1-1/8" TT & 1-1/4" DT), which is
>> more rigid than Standard (Std) tubing (1" TT & 1-1/8" DT) which most of 
>> the
>> frames discussed are.  The extra 1/8" increased diameter results in a OS
>> tube having about the same rigidity as a Std tube which is thicker by
>> 0.2mm.
>>
>> It seems the AHH uses OS tubes with butting of 0.8mm x 0.5mm x 0.8mm,
>> which is fairly thin tubing.   Grant never stated what tubing thickness 
>> he
>> uses.  This would be have the same rigidity as s Std tube of 1.0mm x 
>> 0.7mm
>> x 1.0mm.IF the AHH tubing is thicker than what I stated, THEN it the
>> equivalent rigid Std tube would be thicker
>>
>>   My 1988 Schwinn Voyaguer (a full touring frame) uses Std Columbus
>> Tenax tubing which by everything I can find has a 1" TT of 0.9mm x 0.7mm 
>> x
>> 0.9mm and a 1-1/8" DT of 1.0mm x 0.7mm x 1.0mm.   So a AHH has tubing 
>> which
>> is as rigid as the 88 Voyageur which was sold as full touring bike.  If 
>> the
>> AHH tube is thicker than 8-5-8, then it is even more rigid than the 88
>> Voyaguer.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:12:05 PM UTC-4 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question or the group.  I ride a Homer and considering
>>> using it for road touring.  Since its not by definition a touring
>>> Rivendell, is loaded touring pushing the envelope for this bike?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Lyman ATX
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[RBW] Homers and road touring

[Lyman Labry]

I have a question or the group.  I ride a Homer and considering using it
for road touring.  Since its not by definition a touring Rivendell, is
loaded touring pushing the envelope for this bike?

thanks,
Lyman ATX

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[RBW] Re: FS Stem: Nitto Fillet FacePlater -Quill - 25.4 (CR60-3F) 60mm

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Hello all,
Deleting this posting.
Thanks

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:56 PM Lyman Labry  wrote:

> I goofed ordering this sexy Nitto stem without really thinking the process
> through.  It just arrived from Rivendell and is in un-opened plastic
> sleeve. I can’t use it.  Maybe it can be returned but maybe someone is in
> need of this beautiful example of Nitto craftsmanship?  Thanks,
> Lyman in ATX
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[RBW] Re: FS Stem: Nitto Fillet FacePlater -Quill - 25.4 (CR60-3F) 60mm

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$148.00

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:56 PM Lyman Labry  wrote:

> I goofed ordering this sexy Nitto stem without really thinking the process
> through.  It just arrived from Rivendell and is in un-opened plastic
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> need of this beautiful example of Nitto craftsmanship?  Thanks,
> Lyman in ATX
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[RBW] FS Stem: Nitto Fillet FacePlater -Quill - 25.4 (CR60-3F) 60mm

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I goofed ordering this sexy Nitto stem without really thinking the process
through.  It just arrived from Rivendell and is in un-opened plastic
sleeve. I can’t use it.  Maybe it can be returned but maybe someone is in
need of this beautiful example of Nitto craftsmanship?  Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

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Seems like a good enough bike for the job to me for most bike-packing
touring. Front rack braze ons would be a plus for me.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:04 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :)
>
> mike
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for
>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having no
>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar
>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed as
>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others
>> might be doing?
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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pants, knickers, shorts coming back

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I’ve worn the Musa shorts for several years.  I dislike the elastic belt
and the seams on the rear pockets did not hold for long….other than than,
great durable shorts for cycling.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 3:45 PM Peter Adler  wrote:

> Although a pair of pants (or maybe knickers) sound appealing, I don't
> expect to buy the new ones.
>
> I own an earlier generation of the grey/blue pants, with Velcro leg
> straps. The material is fine, for what it is. My two primary beefs are the
> elastic belt and the silly-low rise, which combine to produce visible
> buttcrack while riding, or at least visible underpants. It's meant that I
> hardly ever wear them on a bike at all, as I do not wish to impose that
> scenery on riders behind me.
>
> As I recall, the rise is low by design, because Grant doesn't like loose
> fabric on his butt. I do, especially if it means that the waistband stays
> covered by my shirt/jersey/sweater/jacket. Perhaps it's the difference
> between riding drop bars and uprights, which I'm not going to do
>
> As with other Rivendell products, Grant designs products that work for
> Grant. If what works for Grant doesn't work for you, you're going to have
> to go elsewhere.
>
> Peter Adler
>  who gets exposed buttcrack with MUSA pants+Nitto Technomic+Noodles, so
> either Grant's beta-testing is not comprehensive or he doesn't care about
> buttcrack exposure
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:15:02 AM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> I agree with Frank about the belt. I put a non elastic web belt in both
>> of my pairs of shorts.
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:56 AM Frank Brose  wrote:
>>
>>> Had a pair on yesterday. I think I have 4 or 5 pairs and  the only
>>> complaint I have would be the belt. If they had a web belt they would be
>>> the best shorts I've ever owned. Probably still are. I'll buy more.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost

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Hello,
I am also want to buy this seat-post.  Size 27.2mm for a Homer.
Thanks
Lyman in Austin

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 3:12 PM Robert Dowtin 
wrote:

> I got what I needed! Thanks everyone for the speedy replies and stellar
> results.
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:48:59 AM UTC-5 jmanw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What post size?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:12 PM Robert Dowtin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally understand that this is a long shot and I apologize for the
>>> cross posting with Riv and the subsequent forcing of your reading this
>>> twice.
>>>
>>> I desire a Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost. Does anyone have one that they
>>> might be graciously willing to come up off of? I promise to put it on a
>>> beautiful bike!
>>>
>>> ~Rob in NW Ar
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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Nitto B352 Aluminum Albatross Bars & Tallux Stem

[Lyman Labry]

Hi all,

I’m looking for a Nitto aluminum Albatross handlebar 55cm and a Tallux stem
11cm, 25.4 mm clamp.  I’m changing out an Albastache and Tallux 5cm.

Thanks,
Lyman in Austin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do the Clem Smith Junior stepthrough bicycles have a used value?

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Hi,  What size?  More photos would be great.  Thanks
Lyman ATX


On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:33 AM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't speak about my man Craig like that! Craigslist has come through for
> me so many times on good deals - my car, motorcycle, a job, a Spot single
> speed bicycle, my Lambretta (TV175 - holy grail of scooters).
>
> You need a full list of bike parts to get your price. You need to have the
> size listed there. I think Clems and most Rivendells have a high resale
> value.
>
> Also do contact The Pro's Closet. Their office is like a mountain bike
> museum. They have the most amazing collection of vintage mountain bikes and
> have sold Rivendells before. I think they'd be into it.
>
> I am passively looking for a Clem Smith Jr. in the 45 cm / 26 inch size
> for my S.O. on the East Coast.
>
> Good luck! Your bike is nice and it will sell.
>
> Michael
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 10:34:49 PM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I am surprised that in a month of listing my Clem for sale that I have
>> not had one serious look or offer.  Does that mean that this bicycle has no
>> market value?  It is the good bicycle that we all know and love, well made
>> and superbly designed.  Apparently while is is a good bicycle to have it is
>> not a good one to sell.
>>
>> I've added over $1,000 of upgrades and paid $1,600 to purchase.  It has
>> treated handlebars, Cork grips, upgraded Shimano pedals, Nitto racks in
>> front and back, a large Wald basket, Brooks seat, double kick stand, and a
>> generator hub and light system.  I have asked for $1,500 thinking all the
>> upgrades for free would be attractive.
>>
>> So what suggestions do you have for finding new homes for your used
>> Rivendells"  Mine was new last October (2020).  Craigslist only works with
>> an 80% discount on the purchase replacement value,  same with local ads.
>> Pro's Closet is looking for fancy road bikes so not an option for this
>> transaction.  I've considered returning it to Rivendell so they could find
>> someone who would appreciate it.  I know I can give it to a bike collective
>> or charity and that might be the best option.  I have done that in the
>> past. Ive given bicycles to Bike East Bay and Silicon Valley Bike
>> Coalition.  Trying to show repect to the bicycle and the waiting time to
>> find one of these.
>>
>> Just wondering.
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Re: [RBW] Austin Snowpocalypse 2021

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Wonderful.  Sounds like perfect bike for conditions.

LymanATX

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:38 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> We're having some unusual weather in Austin this week. Clem plowed through
> the ~6" of accumulation in the park without too much trouble. No slo-mo
> power slide, sorry, I wasn't brave enough to try that.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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Thanks for getting back to me. I agree. 61 cm is preferred based on what I
know about it. A really sweet bike.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:48 AM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> Depends on how you like your bike to fit and whether you think GP's sizing
> method works for you, I suppose. According to the Riv sizing method, 61cm
> may be more appropriate for your PBH. My PBH is 85.5 and while the
> standover is fine, the reach is a little too far for me.
> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 7:32:23 AM UTC-8 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Do you think the 59cm frame size is good fit for 89PBH?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:47 AM Eric G@rs  wrote:
>>
>>> That is mine. It is listed at $1600 to cover the listing cost. Will sell
>>> for $1400 + shipping to anyone here that is interested.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Menlo Park
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:50:20 PM UTC-8 Jason D wrote:
>>>
 A nice looking Roadeo frameset on eBay -
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/353364415765

 On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 1:24:26 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> There is a 52cm Betty across the hall on the IBOB list.  I have no
> affiliation with the seller.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt  in Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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Hi
Do you think the 59cm frame size is good fit for 89PBH?
Thanks!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:47 AM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> That is mine. It is listed at $1600 to cover the listing cost. Will sell
> for $1400 + shipping to anyone here that is interested.
>
> Eric
> Menlo Park
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:50:20 PM UTC-8 Jason D wrote:
>
>> A nice looking Roadeo frameset on eBay -
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/353364415765
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 1:24:26 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 52cm Betty across the hall on the IBOB list.  I have no
>>> affiliation with the seller.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt  in Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Derailleur for Riv Silver 34/24 cranks?

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Riv set up a Homer for me this spring using a FD-CX70 with the Silver 34-24
x 9spd and non-indexed shifters. Works fine.
Lyman in Austin

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 4:20 AM brendonoid  wrote:

>
> I currently have a FD-CX70 (that riv used to sell) running indexed with a
> 3x LX trigger shifter from the 90s. Works great but like others said you
> have to have a big gap. Align it with an imaginary 3rd ring in the crank
> and you'll be fine. If you aren't trying to index just about any old
> derailleur can be made to work.
>
> Love this crank for its Hillibiking competence. and the steel chainrings
> are super strong to boot.
> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 16:46:07 UTC+8 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>Yes to what DougP has stated. Relax the FD gap !   I have a seeming
>> large gap also on my Bombadil 24/36/44 crank with a road FD, whose radius
>> doesn't really match at all.  On top of that the flat regular 44t ring is
>> reversed, as 44t rings are designed for middle/small use. So in "theory"
>> it's just all messed up, but reality isn't a theory. I use a little more
>> finesse to shift to the big ring, and it just works. That's the beauty of
>> all this manual shifting stuff, it's very fluid and adaptable and friendly.
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: NOS CYPRESS Grand Bois 650bx32

[Lyman Labry]

Great.  Thanks!

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 2:28 PM Jan O.  wrote:

> New Old Stock.
>
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 12:12:41 PM UTC-7, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>> What does acronym NOS mean?  Could not find it.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:12 PM Joel  wrote:
>>
>>> 2 NOS CYPRESS Grand Bois 650bx32 in original package, stored in dark
>>> basement, not humid, not dry.
>>>
>>> $70 shipped or best offer if this seems high.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: NOS CYPRESS Grand Bois 650bx32

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What does acronym NOS mean?  Could not find it.
Thanks!

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:12 PM Joel  wrote:

> 2 NOS CYPRESS Grand Bois 650bx32 in original package, stored in dark
> basement, not humid, not dry.
>
> $70 shipped or best offer if this seems high.
>
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Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

[Lyman Labry]

Hi,
I highly recommended mirrors.  Ive always used the German one mounted on
drop bars. However, with my new Albatasche  bars, i have not found a way to
mount them without interfering with hand grip.  Any help there would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Lyman

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:21 AM Matthew Williams <
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm thinking about getting a small, bar-mounted rearview mirror. For the
> past forty-five years I've ridden without one and I'm in the habit of
> constantly checking my surroundings, but after riding in traffic for
> several months I'm thinking a mirror might be a good idea.
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> gadget that isn't a substitute for turning your head? What are your
> recommendations for rearview mirrors?
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 63cm Roadeo

[Lyman Labry]

Hi
Please let me know if it’s not sold.  I’d be interested to know more about
the bike.
Thanks
Lyman

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:41 AM tdusky  wrote:

> Hi Scott
> Not sure if you have found what you are looking for yet.
> I have a 63cm Rivendell custom Long Low built in 2001 by Joe Stark, I
> would be willing to sell.
> I am not sure how to compare the models, but mine is the deep red they
> used for the customs at the time.
> The max tire size you can run is a true 32mm tire.
> I am in the Detroit area, let me know if you are interested.
> Thanks
> Tom
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 12:56:29 AM UTC-4 MCT wrote:
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>> Scott,
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>> I sent you a PM. Let me know if you didn’t get it.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Lyman Labry]

A couple of questions. I’m fairly new to Rivendell.  Wondering if you could
comment.
How different would this ride feel compared to the latest version of AHH?
Top tube is level or so it appears?
Stem is short.  5cm?
What is PBH range for this frame?
While Riv bike owners are not weight conscious, still, I’d like to know
what this bike weighs.  It matters if I’m schlepping it in a suitcase in
taxis and airports.
Thanks
Lyman in ATX


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> She would look good on you Tirebiter! Thanks for the reply Robert!
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
> On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:40:24 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
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>> Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  wrote:
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>>> The top tube & seat tube lengths are equal.
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
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>>> Couplers
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>>> Hi
>>> Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames.
>>> What is meant by that?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:
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 Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road
 frame that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!

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> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
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> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but
> can pack and ship for cost.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

[Lyman Labry]

Thanks. I’ll need to read up on that.  I like the coupler option.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:51 AM Robert Tilley  wrote:

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> Hi
> Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames.
> What is meant by that?
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:
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>> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame
>> that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!
>>
>> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>>
>>> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
>>> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
>>> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
>>> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
>>>
>>> Would like $2000 to me. Would LOVE local pickup, or a road trip... but
>>> can pack and ship for cost.
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>>> Nashville, TN
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Square Rivendell Road with S Couplers

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Hi
Nice bike. I’m not familiar with the term “square” in  Bicycle frames. What
is meant by that?
Thanks

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:18 PM Karl  wrote:

> Maybe I am off... hmmm, what if I throw in a second Rivendell Road frame
> that is a 58 square and would be a great spandex machine!
>
> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-5 Karl wrote:
>
>> Thinning a bit. This one is collecting too much dust. XT Rear, Chorus
>> front, Phil Wood wheels, S Couplers. Saddle can be included or will take
>> $25 off without. Saddle bag not included. I bought this, but soon after
>> bought a different Rivendell with S's. Pictures at
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B16GDdyTvGSqI5R
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Re: [RBW] Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

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Hi,
I sold my Cross-Check this past spring and bought a Homer.  The ride and
the fit is superior. The staff at Rivbike were awesome dialing in my
measurements and expectations.  The Hillborne is similar to the Homer. I
believe you will be pleased with the results.
Lyman in Austin

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:49 AM Jeffrey Sincich 
wrote:

> Hi all! I am considering finally upgrading from my Surly Cross-Check to a
> Sam Hillborne. Has anyone done this, and if so, what are the improvements?
> Were you happy you did so? I currently ride a 54cm Corss-Check. I mainly
> commute to work, but some short bike tours are in the future. Thanks in
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Re: [RBW] Pre-owned Roadeos - expected cost - complete

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Roger that.  You have first right of refusal!

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 10:06 AM Scott Calhoun  wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Pre-owned Roadeos - expected cost - complete

[Lyman Labry]

I saw someone was WTB a  63cm Roadeo recently.  I am also interested in
scoping one out in that size if there is another one out there.  Thanks

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> I think I sold my Roadeo frame set her for a grand, maybe a little more.
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[RBW] Pre-owned Roadeos - expected cost - complete

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Hello,
Curious to know what a complete Roadeo is expected to cost.
Thanks
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Re: [RBW] FS 62 cm Custom Riv f/f by Joe Starck - ’98

[Lyman Labry]

Hi
Nice looking frame. Besides the size of wheels question, is the top tube
level horizontally?  Presuming a road bike frame.
Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody regret their Cheviot sweater?

[Lyman Labry]

Hi all, if there’s a Medium Size cheviot sweater In good condition
available out there, I’d be interested.  Thanks,
Lyman

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:48 AM MTR  wrote:

> how much to big? i'm interested in buying it
>
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> On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 2:52:54 PM UTC-7, Mike Packard wrote:
>>
>> I ordered an XXL (5-11, 230) and it seems too big. Only wore it a couple
>> times. I'd trade mine for an XL or sell it if no one wants to trade. It is
>> a great sweater.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 7:11:52 PM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:
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>>> I saw that Rivendell offered a sweater vest recently, but as someone
>>> with unusually long arms, I regretted not buying one of the sleeved variety
>>> last year. I have such a hard time finding long enough sleeves that I never
>>> expected the Riv sweater to fit.
>>>
>>> What did people think of them? Does anyone regret their purchase?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an XL available? I might also consider a L.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe recommendations for wet fall

[Lyman Labry]

I can vouch for the Blundstones.  Rode in them on tour in rainy Scotland
last year and all was good.  Did not know about the shearling footbed.
Sounds great.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:18 PM Nathan F  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Blundstones perform better than they have any right to while riding. Get
> some wool socks (and if it's really cold, their shearling footbed) and
> you'll be all set!
>
> Plus they're trendy right now and are worth +15 on any Instagram post you
> make : )
>
> Nathan
>
> On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:36:34 UTC-7, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>> *TL;DR: Looking for a shoe that'll last a long time during the rainy
>> seasons or when water in your shoes is inevitable. *
>>
>> My rides usually include a couple creek crossings and come the rainy
>> seasons, I'm guaranteed to get wet feet.
>>
>> Summer's covered with bedrock sandals. Winter's covered in that I avoid
>> getting wet on top of cold at all cost. But does anyone have any
>> recommendations for spring/fall wet-condition riding shoes?
>>
>> I usually ride sambas but man does water quickly wreck them...not to
>> mention the god-awful squishy feeling when water's down in there that
>> simply doesn't go away. Other thoughts are some sort of camp moc. Might
>> still be squishy but my hunch is the leather will last a lot longer than
>> typical synthetic shoe materials. Or heck are water shoes a thing among
>> cyclists?
>>
>> Happy to hear any recommendations, and if it's simply a 'deal with it'
>> situation, that's fine too.
>>
>> - Andrew
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody regret their Cheviot sweater?

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Mike,
I read you could shrink sweater.  I think by putting in the dryer rather
than letting hang dry?  Don’t know how you could control though.
Lyman

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:53 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I ordered an XXL (5-11, 230) and it seems too big. Only wore it a couple
> times. I'd trade mine for an XL or sell it if no one wants to trade. It is
> a great sweater.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 7:11:52 PM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I saw that Rivendell offered a sweater vest recently, but as someone with
>> unusually long arms, I regretted not buying one of the sleeved variety last
>> year. I have such a hard time finding long enough sleeves that I never
>> expected the Riv sweater to fit.
>>
>> What did people think of them? Does anyone regret their purchase?
>>
>> Does anyone have an XL available? I might also consider a L.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt B
>> Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] Two Bike Fridays for Sale

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You can google “how to measure Bike Fridays”.  A video will demonstrate.
Thanks!

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:32 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> That's correct. On a regular sloping-toptube or step-thru bike you would
> measure straight across from the seatpost through the headtube. You mimic
> that on a Bike Friday by measuring straight across from about the midpoint
> of the seat- and bar-mast.
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Re: [RBW] Two Bike Fridays for Sale

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Nice bikes. The NWT is of interest to me. It must be a Large (58cm) at
least?  BF measures size from the center of stem riser to the center of
seat mast using a level.
Thanks!

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:19 PM Julian Westerhout 
wrote:

> For Sale — Two Bike Fridays. I am selling these on behalf of the owners —
> a couple of friends of mine who had plans to do lots of riding on these,
> but life intervened, and so they’ve mostly sat unused, and are pristine and
> loaded, ready to go make other riders very happy. Take a look at the photos
> — these bikes look brand new — I think they have at most a few hundred
> miles of use.
>
>
> Bike #1:  New World Tourist — red, owner is 6’2” — bike will fit those
> from about 5’10 to about 6’3” with minimal to no adjustment.  Drivetrain is
> SRAM Dual drive 3 x 9. This is a 3-speed internal hub and a 9-speed rear
> derailleur setup that provides a very wide gearing range with a single
> front chainring. Note that the frame has a braze-on for a front derailleur,
> so if someone really wanted to they could make this a double or triple up
> front, too!   :)   Shimano Ultegra crankset with chainguard, Ultegra rear
> derailleur,  Deore XT V-brakes, Shimano dual-side pedals — platform on one
> side, SPD on the other. Chris King Headset, BF Split H handlebars. Two
> water bottle cages.  It has a Thomsen seat post with a Selle Anatomico
> Titanico saddle, a Detours rear back that clicks on and off of the seat
> post, a nylon carry bag for use on a bus or car, plus the suitcase that
> converts into a trailer — a really fantastic system.
>
>
> Bike # 2: Crusoe — blue — owner is 5’7”,  bike will fit those from about
> 5’4” to about 5’10” with minimal to no adjustment. Equipped almost
> identically to the NWT, but with a Terry butterfly saddle — plus a spare
> Schwalbe marathon tire. It has a Bike Planet cyclometer mounted, but the
> batteries are dead. One water bottle cage, with room for another. It also
> comes with a nylon carry bag as well as the suitcase system with trailer
> transformation ability.
>
>
> Photos of both bikes are at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPyEavb
>
>
> Asking $1600 each net plus shipping. Buy one or buy both! My friends want
> these to be used and loved. Let me know if you have any questions.
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
> Bloomington, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hot Waxing Chains

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This is interesting thread.  My new riv bike received May 5th must have
some type of wax treatment on it.  I’ve ridden it daily and drivetrain
still looks clean. Do you know who riv folks use on their bikes?  Also,
wondering what they clean drivetrain with before treating.  Thanks!

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:42 PM Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> So.  To come back to this.  I ordered a bottle of Nix Frix Shun NFX, and
> have been using it on my two bikes, my wife's bike and our tandem this
> summer.  The results have been excellent.  I don't know how much is this
> particular lube or is application method, including wiping the outside
>  chain after every ride; but I'm sold.  We ride predominantly on dirt roads
> and gravel bike paths and my chains have remained clean and quiet since
> late May.  Actually, I found after three or four rides I really didn't need
> to wipe the chain.  A big thank you to the people who recommended it.
>
> Michael
>
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 7:18:22 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, one and all.  It has been a long time, at least a few years,
>> since my last post and I am just assuming my membership is still active.
>>
>> At 75+, I still ride regularly, although not the distances I used to.  I
>> live in a small town in far northern VT, which has mostly dirt roads. I
>> just ride; I don't desire new stuff nor do anything heroic worth writing
>> about.  I have a Ramboulliet, a Trek 620, An early Saluki (my goto ride),
>> and a custom Bilenky touring tandem.  My wife rides a Betty Foy and my
>> daughter a Cheviot.   All but the Trek have fenders but that's still a lot
>> of chains out on dirty roads and a lot of messy time cleaning them.
>>
>> Can you teach an old dog new tricks?  Well maybe.   I clean the chains,
>> rings and cogs with mineral spirits and citrosol.  I use a standard oil
>> lube and wipe them down as best I can.  The process of wiping down the
>> chains inevitably contaminates the rings and cogs with oil and the first
>> ride bleeds oil from the inside to the outside of the chain.  The oil
>> collects dirt, which wears down rings and cogs.  (I just ordered three new
>> rings today, so I'm focused).  Every time I go through this process of
>> cleaning 9 chains, I watch a youtube video on chain waxing but get put off
>> by the initial effort and purchase of a crock pot, ultrasonic cleaner, etc;
>> and wonder if it would really improve this process ; keep the chain cleaner
>> and reduce wear?
>>
>> Your experience, appreciated.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Early All Rounder

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Me too.  That makes it easy.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Seller says 56.5cm. I'm out!
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Early All Rounder

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Riv folks, Is this a good value?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:48 PM Brendan Willard  wrote:

> Ahh yes... correct Rivendell Road, NOT All Rounder
>
> -Brendan Willard
> Owner/Winemaker
> Phantômé Cellars
> phantomecellars.com
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:39 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Lots of nifty Suntour Superbe Pro bits, I remember when that stuff was
>> available in the Readers in the very early days. That's a nice bike of
>> indeterminate size.
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Re: [RBW] Bike frame suggestions for longish distance 95% road comfort

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Not being familiar with the Rambouillet, I went searching for info.  One
reviewer thought the Rambo was the early equivalent of today’s Roadeo.  Do
you think this is the case?
Thanks!

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 5:16 AM Surlyprof  wrote:

> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/pb0nSlJHVn0
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> Would you fit a 60 Rambouillet?  John’s looks like a great deal.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

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Cool. Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:57 PM Drw  wrote:

> I have a waterford 56 650b atlantis. I think my pbh is 86-87.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:27:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis
>> for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done
>> business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU
>>
>> Frank
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Re: [RBW] 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

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Would you know off hand the PBH range?  Thanks

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Frank Brose  wrote:

> Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis
> for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done
> business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

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Watching ronsbikes video was a hoot.  Clever end run on racks.  But, you
can’t remove the sack without dismantling, no?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:37 AM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> While this is also pretty expensive for what it is, it's still cheaper
> than a rack, or you could DIY something similar for a few bucks less.
> https://ronsbikes.com/products/not-a-rack
>
> I'm using one now on a Carradice Camper Long Flap that I modded with 3
> leather, essentially, belt loops to the bottom for the horizontal rod to
> run through. Works great!
>
> - Andrew
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:56:46 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Patrick, and all,
>> The Rivendell designs don't really have any stiffness to the front of the
>> bag (closest to the seat post and SQR) so their bags will collapse around
>> the SQR rack. I took my Homer out to RBWHQ in late 2018 to try out a
>> BaggaBond (and HappiSack) to see what the additional height of the SQR
>> system would do. It works, but not optimally.
>> We also tried hoisting the BBond up with the string to the bottom loops
>> of the daisy chain trick. My saddle to tire distance is too small. And, I
>> don't use anything bigger than the old Medium SaddleSack, now.
>> See attached photos.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:41:46 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> More about the Carradice SQR system: I works well to hold regular (and
>>> not just the purpose-designed Super C Slim) transverse saddlebags higher
>>> than the rear of the saddle (tho' your have to be aware that you'll need to
>>> lift your leg higher when you swing it over the saddle, in case that is a
>>> problem). I'd guess you get up to 3" of additional lift over the tire
>>> compared to strapping it to Brooks slots -- note of course that the
>>> bag-holding device is far more vertical than that built in to the Super C
>>> Slim. I've used it with the Camper and the Nelson and the Junior to hold
>>> the top of the bag above the rear of the saddle. However, I'm not sure if
>>> it works well with the flatter, more horizontal Rivendell design. Perhaps
>>> others can address this?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

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I can vouch for the Homer being luxurious.  I was considering a Roadini or
a custom 90’s Rivendell bike for sale on their website.  Grant recommended
the Homer instead.  It’s been an awesome ride.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:29 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> The XO-1 is a very cool collector item, but I'll come right out and say
> it: it is overpriced for its ride quality, due to its collector status. For
> a Sunday driver I think it's a great bike but for an everyday, long
> distance road bike, the Roadini has another 30 years of Grant's experience
> built into it despite the modest TIG welds.  I would also consider the
> Homer, if you don't mind giving up a little bit of speed for a whole lot of
> luxury.
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

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Yes. The Baggabond may be too large for the Erlen and maybe too heavy for
what its designed for.  Just a thought.
Back to the stick.  It’s kind of an “on the fly” approach.  But maybe a
piece of black bamboo and contrasting cord would be more elegant and appear
more purposeful.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:58 PM Max Diener  wrote:

> @tirebiter - yes, I've seen the same thing re: a stick, though I have had
> a hard time conceptualizing what that would look like in practice. Seeing
> Paul's pic helps me to envision it. I do wonder if it would prematurely
> stretch the bag out if done regularly...
>
> Regarding the Erlen rack, maybe you can help me understand something. If
> I'm reading their product info correctly, it allows for a bag of up to 7"
> to rest on it before that bag would be hitting the seat. How would you fit
> the Baggabond in there without seat interference?
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-6, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>> I think I’ve seen somewhere in their blog that you could use a stick and
>> strap arrangement to help support the bag.  On the other hand, the Erlen
>> rack is a more elegant solution.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM Paul Richardson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> just measured.  got 15".
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

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Really beautiful bike and set up!  Curious, have you weighed the bike?
Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jim Plaugher 
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> Hi folks! I'd like to properly introduce myself and tell the story of my
> first Rivendell, a 58 Roadini.
>  I have been a long time listener to this group, but for many years,
> bicycling has meant commutng year round in the midwest, on my modified Fuji
> MTB, a bike I used think had a long wheelbase! As a Rivendell member in the
> days when the "Reader" was on paper, I enjoyed  Grant's writings
> celebrating the practicalness of bikes, usefulness of saddlebags and his
> encouragement to prioritize comfort. I enjoy reading all of Grant's
> writings and I enjoy reading the posts to this group. You are all so
> expressive with words! I hope it rubs off on me, as I would like to be
> better at writing.
> For the last year I have been living in North East Iowa on top of a bluff
> with 2.5 miles of a steep gravel road before I hit the scenic paved highway
> along the Mississippi River. So the Roadini in the picture is nice and
> clean as it is not my first choice when I head out the door. 26X2.00 feels
> safer to me than 700X35C on the gravel. But the Leo is really nice to ride,
> once on the highway!
> I am sentimental about some bike components and often remember the history
> of parts I have traded. This bike has a Phil Wood front hub my family gave
> me for Christmas.The rear is a 40H first generation Phil freewheel hub with
> radial lacing on the none-drive side. It came from trading parts from a
> Peugeot PX1O. I gave up the sewup wheels in favor of parts,I considered to
> be more practical. The  noodle bars and the Shimano 600 cranks also came
> from the Peugeot. So now I have a bike with a frame from Rivendell, not
> just various parts. I enjoy experiencing the Rivendell design through
> riding, and not just reading! I hope to contrbute to conversations in the
> future.
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

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I think I’ve seen somewhere in their blog that you could use a stick and
strap arrangement to help support the bag.  On the other hand, the Erlen
rack is a more elegant solution.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM Paul Richardson 
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> just measured.  got 15".
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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My Crosscheck was about 25 lbs and when stripped down, was fairly swift.
I’m guessing, weight wise, that might be a valid comparison with 25lb
Roadini. That gives me something to think about.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 4:47 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I believe the Roadini has 130 mm rear spacing vs most (all?) other Rivs
> have 135, if that matters.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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That’s good information.
Thanks!

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> I had a 53cm Roadini, 25 lbs. with a basic non-superlight wheelset sounds
> about right.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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I inquired about the 61cm Roadini.  Needs wheels. Can anyone tecommend a
light wheel set? Owner said bike weighs 25+ lbs.  That seemed heavier than
I would have thought. But I don’t know.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:03 PM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> I went to test ride that 58cm quickbeam today. It is in great shape, but
> the IGH needs some adjustment. I don't have enough experience with them to
> know exactly what that entails, but I'm sure it's probably easily achieved.
> 1500$ seems a little too steep to me so I decided against it.
>
> Eric
> SF
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7, Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites
>> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This
>> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are
>> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!"
>> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>
>> 61cm Roadini
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>
>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>
>> 52cm Clementine
>>
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>> 65cm Redwood
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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Roadini in my size!  Hm

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jim Bronson  wrote:

> As an owner of a Redwood, I liked the description of the Redwood for sale.
>
> "the owner got it from HER brother"
>
> That's one tall woman!
>
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>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites
>> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This
>> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are
>> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!"
>> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>
>> 61cm Roadini
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>
>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>
>> 52cm Clementine
>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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This is great. Thanks for pulling this together.
Lyman in Austin

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:11 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
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> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

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Paul, Thanks.  I’m currently running Albastache on my new Homer and
considering a change.  I have 3 hand positions but find myself more and
more liking the upright position.  I can do that with Albastache but need
to reach long for the brakes. I want the brakes closer to the bar end.

Lyman in Austin

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:24 PM True Golden  wrote:

> The handlebar on my friends Homer is a Nitto Billie Bar.
>
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Re: [RBW] Roadini sizing question

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I was in that situation with the Roadini. My pbh is 89. Rivendell
recommended the larger size at 61 cm.  This was before bars were discussed.
I ultimately passed on the Roadini for other reasons and bought a Homer.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:14 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I think it depends what bars you want to run. I'm your height and bought a
> 54 to run reach-back bars, which frankly was a bit silly..I had no toptube
> clearance at all. For drops or moustache - which it was designed for - I'd
> get a 51.
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Re: [RBW] Travel bikes

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I own a 2013 Llama.  It’s been an amazing versatile bike for me.  On and
off road touring and bike camping.
Lyman in Austin

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 7:43 PM Drw  wrote:

> Well this thread now has me going to check out a bike Friday llama (not
> diamond) off Craigslist tomorrow. I think it’s maybe a 2014. Is there
> anything in particular I should be looking at/for?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

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Oh man.  I agree.  Wish I’d had beeswax for a similar experience.

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> Hands down, Craig wins.
> There’s nothing else to see here.
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Re: [RBW] Travel bikes

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I’ll second Kent’s comments especially the one that “more bikes get messed
up in a suitcase than messed up on the road”.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:42 PM Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon <
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> OK, bias alert. I work in the service department of Bike Friday. I've
> logged a hell of a lot of miles on New World Tourists and I've seen what
> people manage to bust on tours.
>
> I'd like to point out one contradiction in your inclinations: You want to
> avoid proprietary parts but you are leaning towards a a Rohloff hub. The
> Rohloff is a lovely piece of work that rarely fails, but can fail. It has a
> proprietary shifter with proprietary cables.
>
> Many of our customers who get Rohloffs or Alfines also get Gates belt
> drives. Again, proprietary. If you bend a Gates cog, good luck finding one
> at a local bike shop.
>
> If I was building a bike for myself for your use case scenario, I'd go
> with either a New World Tourist or a Pocket Llama. With a conventional
> derailler drivetrain. When I pack it in the suitcase, I'd unbolt the rear
> derailler. More bikes get messed up in the suitcase than get messed up on
> the road.
>
> Anyway, that's my $.02
>
> BTW, Bike Friday is running a skeleton crew under partial COVID lockdown &
> deliveries across our supply chains are shot to hell. Delivery times for
> new bikes are out into the fall right now.
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Re: [RBW] Travel bikes

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In my experience, the rotors may be bent when the suitcase is roughly
handled by airlines. I solved that by removing and packing them separately.
But that’s time consuming.
Also: Heavy and I don’t think they’re necessary. I found I was spending a
lot of time tweaking after transport.  Often in an airport. Drag.

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> Why would you avoid discs? Just curious
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Re: [RBW] Travel bikes

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I own two Bike Fridays.  Pocket LLama and a Pocket Rocket Pro.  I’ve used
both for touring in Europe, North America, and UK.   On road and off road
with Llama.  Was preparing for Vietnam when Covid struck.
Standard chain ring and derailleur setup.  Easy to repair anywhere.  I’d
avoid disc brakes. Super comfortable bikes for multi mile days. The PRP
uses 20” 451 tires so maybe not ideal if taking abroad in out of the way
places.  I pack a foldable spare though. The NWT is probably your best
friend.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> There's the BF Pakit. It's a 16-inch-wheeler like Brompton and folds down
> almost as compact, but lighter and uses less propietary parts. I haven't
> seen one with a Rohloff but I'm sure it can be done, they sell one with an
> Alfine IGH.
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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

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Beautiful!
Lyman in Austin

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jim M.  wrote:

> In the foothills of Mt. Diablo:
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> *Now I re-examine philosophies and religions,*
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> *  They may prove well in lecture-rooms, yet not prove at all under the*
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> *  spacious clouds and along the landscape and flowing currents.*
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> Excerpt from “Song of the Open Road”, Walt Whitman
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> jim m
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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Lyman Labry]

Black for my money.  Elegant.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:39 PM Reid Echols  wrote:

> The black and cream, for my money :) I’d love a grilver one too, though.
>
> Reid in Austin
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

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Awesome! Wishing it were 61cm!

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:53 PM Damien  wrote:

> $1,400 - any interest???
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Re: [RBW] Re: arnulfo Platypus

[Lyman Labry]

Andy,
Thanks for the explanation. Good to know what people used to deal with 100
years ago. We take so much for granted health wise today.
Lyman Labry
Austin

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:54 PM ascpgh  wrote:

> Lack of full extension of the second joint of toes.
>
> He had scarlet fever at 12 years (untreated strep infection: penicillin
> went to the war) presumably this was one of the outcomes of his bedrest
> duration.
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> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 11:18:53 AM UTC-4, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
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>> What are hammer toes?
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> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
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>> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 6:30 AM ascpgh  wrote:
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> I do abhor the direction the Wagner family took when asked to respect his
>>> name on a bike of great utility and they chose dollar signs over his legacy
>>> and what it could mean in contemporary use.
>>>
>>> Honus played for the Pittsburgh Pirates. They trained pre-season in Hot
>>> Springs, Arkansas (the town where I grew up) alongside many other pro
>>> teams. He was very taken by the town, the natural hot springs and the
>>> people, returning after the baseball seasons often.
>>>
>>> He organized and coached the first basketball team there at the high
>>> school and bought the uniforms himself. What colors? Black and gold, still
>>> the school colors to this day. [image:
>>> AB27CD01-28A1-4B77-8FF4-0794ECB8C609.JPG]
>>> A sign from the Baseball Trail in Hot Springs, AR. The white tower to
>>> the right is the old Army-Navy Rehab hospital, where my dad went by train
>>> from Memphis for his West Point physical. Screened out for hammer toes, he
>>> went on to Vanderbilt.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
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>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:15:25 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a thought formulating before I saw Grant's response: we can blame
>>>> the estate of Honus Wagner for the preponderance of made-up names and
>>>> anagrams. The thing about names is, most of the time, in the end, the name
>>>> becomes the thing, the thing becomes the name.
>>>>
>>>> When auto manufacturers use names from the animal kingdom, they often
>>>> choose ones that evoke speed and sleekness--Mustang, Impala, Cougar, Pinto.
>>>> Okay, pinto is actually a bean. And also a horse with a patched coat, not
>>>> unlike an Appaloosa. It was also a car from the Ford Motor Company known
>>>> for exploding. Here's an idea for a Rivendell bicycle name, an anagram made
>>>> from "Edsel B. Ford."
>>>>
>>>> My first thought about Platypus was, great name for a bike!. One that
>>>> looks like this:
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>>>> [image: platypus bike.jpg]
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>>>> But seriously, naming a bicycle "Platypus" is playful and also has
>>>> perhaps an element of thumbing the nose at the bike industry, and marketing
>>>> tenets in general. Back to what I was saying about the thing becoming the
>>>> name and vice versa, there is the perhaps apocryphal story of Picasso's
>>>> reaction to someone pointing out that the portrait he painted of Getrude
>>>> Stein doesn't actually look like Stein. In the first version, Picasso
>>>> replies, "It will." In the second version, he replies, "In a hundred years,
>>>> nobody will care what Gertrude looked like, but they will still be looking
>>>> at my painting."
>>>>
>>>> Gertrude Stein wrote the poem "Sacred Emily", and it has this somewhat
>>>> famous line (if lines from poetry can any longer be considered famous in
>>>> these times):
>>>>
>>>> Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose
>>>> Loveliness extreme.
>>>> Extra gaiters,
>>>> Loveliness extreme.
>>>> Sweetest ice-cream.
>>>> Pages ages page ages page ages.
>>>>
>>>> A Rivendell by any other name smells as sweet.  - *Willy "shaking my
>>>> spear" Shakespeare*
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and here is the image that comes to mind when I conjure a
>>>> Winthrop-Charlene bike (Stein, coincidentally, bears a passing resemblance
>>>> to Miss Almira Gutch:
>>>>
>>>> [image: winthrop charlene.gif]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 3:18:18 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been 

Re: [RBW] Wheelset - 700c - Velocity-Built Riv Standard Atlas – Rivendell Bicycle Works

[Lyman Labry]

Hi.  Thanks. That answers my question.  They’re on my Homer but are paired
with extra lite tubes and Shokiro 700 x 42 tires.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:26 PM Sofia Torres  wrote:

> No, it will be solid and dependable and built for bikes that carry some
> stuff, but not considered “light”
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> I’m guessing there’s another question behind your question though because
> with context “light” and “heavy” don’t mean much.
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[RBW] Wheelset - 700c - Velocity-Built Riv Standard Atlas – Rivendell Bicycle Works

[Lyman Labry]

Hello Everyone!

A general question to the group. Is the 36 spoke wheel set spec’d by
Rivendell considered a “light” wheel set or maybe on the “lighter side”?
Thanks!

https://www.rivbike.com/products/700c-velocity-built-riv-standard-wheel-kit

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

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Pretty cool!

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:04 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> And now..this.
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
> >
> > It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them.
> Check it out, it's pretty!
> >
> > Joe Bernard
> > Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] Unidentified parts

[Lyman Labry]

Great!  Thank you!

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:40 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You would use those to attach the shift levers to brazed-on mounts on the
> frame. You don’t need them for your Homer, which does not have braze-on
> shifter mounts.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
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> On May 5, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Lyman Labry  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> I’m officially a Riv bike owner with arrival of AHH today.  After putting
> bike together, there were two small parts left over.  I don’t know where
> they belong on the bike.  Any suggestions welcome!
> 
> They are marked left and right but don’t seem to have anything to do with
> the Monarch pedals. Thanks!  Lyman in Austin TX
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Re: [RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

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Tom
That was my experience as well. I wanted to give the new one a run but
delays were frustrating. It’s not uncommon. And SA was great about it.  But
I switched order back to H2 leather and happier for it.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:37 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I was on the pre-order list for the R2, but after they blew a couple of
> delivery deadlines I switched my order to an H2.  SA communicated really
> well during the process.  They essentially switched my order to an H2
> without an upcharge and shipped it 2 day.   I've been very happy with my SA
> saddle. I'm 190lbs and the H2 leather seems to be the right level of
> suppleness. My experience was mainly with VO and Geyes saddles in the
> past.
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> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

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I’ve been using SA for years. They’re great. I prefer leather so I didn’t
take them up on the plastic version.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:23 PM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> Looks like SA finally caught up to Brooks and produced a rubber saddle.
> Has anyone had the chance to try it out? My leather SA saddle is the most
> comfortable saddle I've used so I am curious about the new rubber one. I
> might order one just to give it a shot.
> https://selleanatomica.com/products/r2
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> SF
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

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I like the look of the fancy Cheviot.  The swoopy seat stay is graceful.
It continues the line of the top tube through the seat post to the rear
hub.  To me, it looks like a design derivative of the Gus Boots Wilson.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Looks wonderful.
>
> I'm curious as to the design decision in moving to 700C/622 BSD for the
> 55cm model. Thoughts?
>
> With the move to canti/V-posts, I'm guessing that there's clearance for
> wider tires. Perhaps the recommended PBH would be moved higher for the
> models?
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them.
>> Check it out, it's pretty!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] Re: He Ain't Heavy, He's My Clem Smith L('il Missy)

[Lyman Labry]

Beautiful.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:

> Very nice Clem build Mark! I love my Clem. I hope you enjoy yours as well.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 10:36:17 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> After much procrastination, my Clem L had a proper shakedown spin today.
>> No Easter parade I'm afraid, but we made do. I'll keep it clear of
>> luggage--back o bike bags and a front bag--for a day or two of tweaking.
>> But it's still a bit on the light side, so I'm looking forward to throwing
>> that extra weight on there to settle it down a bit!;^) *More photos here*:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qc6rMfoke1P8X9Dj7
>>
>> [image: IMG_20200412_095005021.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_20200412_125139417.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Anyone running a Sackville Saddlebag as Handlebar Bag

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Mike
I haven’t thought of that configuration yet. But sure. Why not? I’ll give
it a shot.
Thanks!
Lyman
ATX

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 5:12 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> It looks a little funky but works great
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BcK78UQhtA4/?igshid=1djmw4afagdt4
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> Mike
> Austin Tx
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Re: [RBW] In Praise of the Roadini

[Lyman Labry]

Nice. Looking forward to photo!

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:56 PM Dave Grossman  wrote:

> I bought a Roadini frameset a over a year ago and finally got around to
> building it up during the crisis.  As a father of small children, my time
> to ride outside of family rides and commuting is limited, so I was hesitant
> to put money into a road bike.  I couldn't be more glad that I did.
>
> The bike is the most unaggressive-aggressive bike I have owned.  It has a
> terrific riding position (I have a 90 pbh and bought the 61 to be on a
> "bigger" bike and it was a good choice), and I feel like I am in the bike
> as opposed to feeling like a rock in a slingshot.  It does everything a
> road bike should do, and I don't get off feeling beaten by the road.
> Anyhow, thanks to Grant for making a bike unlike any other bike brand
> today.  I'm proud to be a two Riv garage (I have a Hunq also).
>
> Build:
> Nitto Ui-12 31.8 Stem
> Salsa Woodchipper Bars 46cm
> Dura Ace 7400 Cranks (49/39)
> Dura Ace 7700 Bar Ends
> Sram 11-34 9 speed Cassette
> Deore 9 RD
> Sora FD
> Mavic CXP 33s Laced To CK Classics
> Schwalbe One 28s
> Berthoud Saddle
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> I'll get a pic up soon.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L 3-speed traily camper van

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Beautiful!

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:15 PM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Very cool!
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I've been riding this a lot lately after finishing up the build over the
>> winter ...and it's feeling very good
>> 59cm Clem L , new batch
>> 44/34/24 Silver Crankset with an 18t cog in the back and a Paul Melvin
>> tensioner.
>> I'm usually in the 34 ring and will push into the 44 when moving along on
>> flats.   The low 24/18 combo is pretty good for climbing , but I have't
>> tested it out on a long climb with full saddleback.  That's the older large
>> version btw.
>> I'm loving riding on 29x2.35's (Thanks Adam) ...still need to wire up the
>> tail light and I'm envisioning a Nitto basket rack with my large Wald up
>> front .
>> Here's to hoping the New York State opens up those campgrounds before the
>> summer is over
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

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Hello,
 I’m new to Rivendell family and enjoying this discussion on ways to
lighten your bike through wheel sets.
Can anyone comment on the Rivendell 700c Velocity built Standard Atlas
wheel set in terms of lightness and comparison to other possibilities?
Thanks,
Lyman ATX

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9:41 AM ted  wrote:

> James wrote "If I could convince her to go tubeless, we'd save another
> 200+ grams...  "
>
> James would you mind breaking that down, and detailing what you are
> including in each alternative?
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:57:03 AM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles
> wrote:
>>
>> The wheels we're building and tire change on Roberta's bike alone save
>> 3lbs.  The 1x conversion will save even more.  I told her to ditch her
>> kickstand, because you can lean your bike or use a curb / pedal kickstand
>> easily.   The bike will never be light, but lighter wheels will make it
>> feel very light, and if we save 5 lbs, she can heft it easier onto the
>> train.   If I could convince her to go tubeless, we'd save another 200+
>> grams...
>>
>> -James / Analog Cycles / Get Enlightened.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:02:00 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding
>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble
>>> because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each
>>> other’s ideas and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with
>>> light parts. But that bike is a long way off, months, in fact. Meanwhile,
>>> Roberta is giving her beloved Appaloosa a makeover and it is getting lots
>>> of new parts and she’s having all the fun. And since we’re #Rivsisters and
>>> I’m like that little sister who wants what her sister has, I want to
>>> explore what it would take to lighten up my Clem L, which is my only bike
>>> at present, and which is quite heavy. You’ll have heard me mention this in
>>> Joe’s What Is A Cheviot thread. If my Clem could lose a little weight it
>>> would be the most perfect bike anyone could dream up. A Susie version of
>>> Clems would be just so ideal - someone should tell Riv.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if I got aluminum Bosco bars, and new wheels (don’t ask me what
>>> kind, how would I know?) would this make my bike feel considerably lighter?
>>> I don’t think I can give up my front derailleur because I use it for Killer
>>> Hill. And what if I wanted to add dyno while I was at it? Would that negate
>>> my weight savings? Also, I’m keeping my racks; I can’t part with those.
>>> Maybe I’m not the best candidate for this...
>>>
>>> Has anyone built a Clem up with lighter parts? Does it make a big
>>> difference? As in, is it worth the money?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clempocalypse Build

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Beautiful!
Lyman ATX

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:56 PM RichS  wrote:

> That's a really attractive Clem. Well done!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 6:50:54 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>>
>> Here are pics of my Clem Build during quarantine.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1--3phVlc_eNAlqM8O_9-eI8rkvt_rTb6
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Re: [RBW] Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

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Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:06 AM Karl Worley  wrote:

> Toyo is the builder Rivendell used in Japan.
>
> Karl
>
> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Lyman Labry  wrote:
>
> What does Toyo mean?
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:48 AM Karl Worley  wrote:
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>> Ahh I was doing ok until I saw you were selling a 650b Atlantis!! I have
>> been converted with a 650b Bombadil I bought a few months back. To the
>> point I ordered a Saluki in December from Rivendell!! The 700c Atlantis is
>> amazing. I rode one before I bought the frame. I have an 84pbh, and bought
>> a 56cm Toyo long ago. It always felt small to me. The extra 2cm plus the
>> larger tires felt great. I am glad she arrived safely! I forget where I got
>> the box, but it is pretty cool the way they rigged it up!
>>
>> K
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Matthew P 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 58 cm Toyo Atlantis received!
>> Bottom bracket stamped ATO819.  I think it arrived well.  I stuck in the
>> fork and two wheels (700c x 2") and stood over it and the fit feels great.
>> I look forward to building it up.  I'm looking for a 2x system to put on
>> it.
>> And I think I'll be selling my 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis (from Brencho).
>> Thank you Karl.
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 9:10:28 AM UTC-7, SurlyProf wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice to see those wheel mounts selling.  It's a clever design by one of
>>> my past Industrial Design students who picked up cycling right after he
>>> graduated.  Love seeing how entrepreneurial these kids are.
>>>
>>> John
>>> Niles, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:00:42 PM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Took me a minute!
>>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/409839826/offset-bicycle-wheel-storage
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

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What does Toyo mean?
Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:48 AM Karl Worley  wrote:

> Ahh I was doing ok until I saw you were selling a 650b Atlantis!! I have
> been converted with a 650b Bombadil I bought a few months back. To the
> point I ordered a Saluki in December from Rivendell!! The 700c Atlantis is
> amazing. I rode one before I bought the frame. I have an 84pbh, and bought
> a 56cm Toyo long ago. It always felt small to me. The extra 2cm plus the
> larger tires felt great. I am glad she arrived safely! I forget where I got
> the box, but it is pretty cool the way they rigged it up!
>
> K
>
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Matthew P 
> wrote:
>
> 58 cm Toyo Atlantis received!
> Bottom bracket stamped ATO819.  I think it arrived well.  I stuck in the
> fork and two wheels (700c x 2") and stood over it and the fit feels great.
> I look forward to building it up.  I'm looking for a 2x system to put on
> it.
> And I think I'll be selling my 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis (from Brencho).
> Thank you Karl.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 9:10:28 AM UTC-7, SurlyProf wrote:
>>
>> Nice to see those wheel mounts selling.  It's a clever design by one of
>> my past Industrial Design students who picked up cycling right after he
>> graduated.  Love seeing how entrepreneurial these kids are.
>>
>> John
>> Niles, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:00:42 PM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>>>
>>> Took me a minute!
>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/409839826/offset-bicycle-wheel-storage
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What Is a Cheviot?

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Everyone, great discussion on the Cheviot attributes and capabilities. I’m
new to Riv family. Thanks.
Lyman
ATX

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:19 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> I hope they do a Blug post on the new Cheviot soon, Ann. Then we shall
> know all these vital details! And if they would like to put me on their
> Cheviot Design Committee, I nominate myself. 
>
> Ann, what made you decide you wanted a mixte? What bikes do you currently
> ride?
>
> Fun!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
> 
>
>  I decided my next bike will be a mixte and am very interested in the next
> batch of Cheviots.  Does anyone have information on the colors?  We haven't
> seen a red yet for Rivendell's and that would be nice (GP: hint, hint,
> hint).
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Cool.  I like the green color.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM twowheeledtexan  wrote:

> Here’s my Cheviot on a run to the library. Such a comfy bike.
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Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

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I’ve seen people try to do it your way Roberta, it looks cool but kind of
awkward.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:47 AM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> A big part of that problem is your starting-off style.  If instead of
> trying to do a "cowboy mount" you stood with both feet on the ground
> straddling the frame (I leave it to your own devices how best to get into
> that position) raised one pedal to just past top dead center and then
> transfered your weight, stepping onto the raised pedal, all you'd have to
> do when the bike was rolling was sit yourself down and put the off-side
> foot onto its pedal.
>
>
> On 3/28/20 10:32 AM, Roberta wrote:
>
> "Unfortunately the step through is really step over."
>
> The first time I tried the mixte She Devil, my left foot was on the pedal, I 
> pushed off with my right foot and rather than swinging my leg over the saddle 
> (a big reason I wanted a mixte is to not have to do that) while in motion, I 
> tried putting it over the top tube.  I nearly fell over as my foot caught the 
> top of the sloping top bar.
>
> That is why I now call mixtes "trip throughs."
>
> Roberta
>
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Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

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Hello,

Nice feedback. Can any owners attest to the ride quality of the Cheviot?
I’ve heard it described as silky smooth and dreamy.  Riv site talks about
Cheviut could become your favorite go to bike.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:39 AM Howard Hatten  wrote:

> I currently have a Waterford Atlantis & a Cheviot. I consider the Cheviot
> my around town errand bike. If I know I’m riding over 20 miles I take the
> Atlantis. I had a Hillborne, early version with canti’s. I bought the
> Cheviot to replace the Hillborne  because I was looking for the step
> through convenience when loaded on a shopping run. Unfortunately the step
> through is really step over.
> The Cheviot is a nice bike but I really miss that Hillborne. I also
> briefly owned a Wilbury
> Knowing what I know now, if I had only one Rivendell it would be a
> Hillborne. Hopefully the next batch that comes in has canti’s and isn’t
> stretched out in the back end. Im planning on buying one and moving the
> Cheviot down the road.
>
> Howard
> Livonia Mi.
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

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Yes indeed. Cheviut easier on/off with grocery loads and kid hauling.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:30 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> I have both bikes and set up the Cheviot as the around town
> shopper/commuter with basket and Albastache bars.  I set up the Homer with
> drop bars and can do more sprightly riding with it. This is a great two
> bike combo.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 7:52 AM Tirebiter ATX 
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>> Could these two country bikes actually complement the other?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

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Reid,
Thanks for comments.
Also in Austin,
Lyman

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:19 AM Reid Echols  wrote:

> I don't know about each other, but they'll both certainly draw a lot of
> compliments from bystanders (even from 6+ feet away)!
>
> In seriousness, yes; provided they're set up differently enough from each
> other. Cheviot as a commuter with racks and swept-back bars, Homer with
> drops, for example. Rivs have the bug/feature of being versatile enough
> that you can make them very similar to each other, or very different.
>
> If you want more "spread", sub one of those for a Riv that'll take 50+mm
> tires and cantilevers.
>
> My thoughts from quarantine,
> Reid in Austin
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 9:52:50 AM UTC-5, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>> Could these two country bikes actually complement the other?
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Re: [RBW] Samurai Bar Tape

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This is awesome.  Thank you for sharing

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 12:18 PM Lynne Fitz  wrote:

> (Note: while it is not difficult to weave, you can buy it on Etsy - look
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

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Awesome. Thanks

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:21 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> 藍藍藍 What kind of tomfoolery was this?!? The ‘70s must have really been
> something.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> >
> > Tangential to my last story and not really a crash story but there is
> one at the end, but mostly because I've never had a reason to tell this one
> before:
> >
> > One time as a kid in Long Beach, CA. I was out on my bike early evening.
> I came up on this commotion in an alley way and - I could not believe my
> eyes - there were 2 or 3 cars lined up side by side; a huge ramp on one
> ended, a shorter one on the other. There were big spotlights strung up like
> this was some kind of "event", but no TV cameras. Presently I discovered
> there was a rider on some sort of BMX-looking bike with an HUGE front
> chainring. Ok, this fool is going to jump these cars in this alley under
> these lights, and I just happened to discover it. None of this makes sense!
> >
> > The next thing that didn't make sense is there was a big telephone pole
> set on the edge of the alley, right down the way a few yards from the
> landing ramp. No problem, I wouldn't even worry about it.
> >
> > Whelp, he got to cranking on those cranks and hit the big ramp with the
> quickness..and dontcha know he completely overshot the other one, the bike
> bounced a couple times and tossed him right into that pole! Broken arm, and
> now I remember there was even an ambulance there for him to get into. With
> his cute girlfriend attending, because this scene wouldn't be complete
> without our hero having a worried cute girlfriend on the other side of this
> ridiculous stunt.
> >
> > I swear all of this is true. The '70s were... different.
> >
> > Joe "I was there" Bernard
> > Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] WTB

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It is indeed. Thanks.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 4:02 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Oh I wouldn't know. It's a custom touring bike so I can't compare it to a
> Roadini, Will or Grant should be able to help with that.
>
> The bottom line for me is if I was looking for a Riv road bike and this
> fit and I had the cash..no brainer, I'd buy it. Great color, great price,
> it's all good.
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Re: [RBW] WTB

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Thanks.  Similar ride?

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Holler at w...@rivbike.com. He's kinda cooped up and answering emails
> this week/weekend, he'll give you the straight dope on that bike. I saw it
> live in color a few months ago at the shop and it's spectacular. Buy it,
> ride it!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

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Video was hilarious.  Thanks.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:36 AM Leah Peterson 
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> I have loved this thread; it really has been so instructive and also -
> please don’t take offense - entertaining.
>
> I now have a name for those yellow things in the road (“road turtles”) and
> know that I should never get near them in the rain. I will never, ever race
> my best friend lest she turn her bike in front of me and send me flying. I
> will certainly never attempt a wheelie.
>
> In all seriousness, these stories as well as the COVID pandemic have made
> me more careful - now is not a good time to need a hospital. I usually ride
> helmet-free but I’ve been wearing one more often just as an extra layer of
> safety. Helmets come with certain annoyances, particularly for women, and
> because I can’t ever just be serious, I catalogued it in the video below.
>
> I don’t have a crash story to contribute, but what I have I give to you.
> Also, don’t we just need to laugh these days?
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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, SurlyProf  wrote:
>
> 
> Reading about all of these injuries and browsing X-rays makes me realize
> how lucky I've been in my 45-50 years of riding a bike.  In all that time,
> I've only been in 3 crashes (all, of course, involving cars with clueless
> drivers).
>
> In the '80's, I bought my first really nice "Italian" bike at a sidewalk
> sale in Huntington Beach (1/2 price!).  I'd been out of college for a year
> or so and hadn't owned a bike since my last one was stolen freshman year.
> It was an '86 Bertoni Corsa Mondiale in metallic lavender (in Italian they
> called it, "God-awful purple").  Loved that bike but thought it might have
> been cursed.  Within a month or two I had two crashes in the same weekend!
> The first happened as I was riding down in the Newport/Balboa area.  I was
> probably cruising at 25+ mph when I was passed by a van.  The van barely
> went another city block when it took a right turn in front of me.  I hit
> the brakes and slid the bike sideways like I was doing a hockey stop.  I
> must have hit the side of that van at 10 mph.  The whole incident seemed to
> happen in slow motion.  I even remember the fear in the elderly woman's
> face as I slammed into the van right next to her.  Looked like a couple
> driving their in-laws around the area.  I'm sure this incident made an
> impression as I did given the huge Wile E. Coyote-shaped dent I put in
> their side.  They slowed and saw that I was still on the bike and, I guess,
> assumed I was OK and drove off.  I quickly unclipped and put a foot down
> and then heard the lunchtime host at the restaurant on the corner where it
> happen say (in a fantastic Jeff Spicolli voice), "Du-u-u-de... I can't
> believe you stayed on the bike!"
>
> The next day I went out for an easy ride to loosen up my severely bruised
> hip and shoulder and was right-hooked by a pick up truck.  That time, I was
> not so lucky.  I flew over the handlebars onto the pavement as I heard the
> squealing of tires as they tore off.  My rear wheel was completely taco-ed
> which I didn't bother repairing for at least a month since I thought the
> bike was cursed.  Fortunately, because of the previous day's accident, I
> was wearing a helmet that second day.  Could've been a lot worse.
>
> I loved that bike and kept it for another 25+ years.  Wish I'd held on to
> it for riding Eroica.  Still had all the original Shimano 600 gruppo
> (obligatory bike-geek statement).
>
> John
> Niles, CA
>
> On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 3:40:10 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>>
>> On a recent thread, we veered off topic things that might cause crashes.
>> Stories began pouring in, and they were fascinating and useful. I think we
>> should have a new thread here where you can contribute your experiences and
>> the rest of us can learn a thing or two. For instance, I didn’t know a
>> fender unsecured at the seat stay could cause a crash and now I do. I’ll be
>> fixing mine forthwith!
>>
>> I feel fortunate not to have any stories to contribute here, but please
>> share yours with us. Some of them might even be funny. (We’ll be laughing
>> WITH you.)
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] WTB

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Seriously.
 I want to know more.  This might could work for me.  Thanks

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:09 PM Tirebiter ATX  wrote:

> Sure. Whatever.  It;s cool.  I had a friend named Steve.  He died on tour
> with me in Cuba in 2013.  We once paraded as doctors for preferred seating
> at Mosca’s outside of New Orleans in 1983.  Does that count for a discount?
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 8:36:50 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Ah, that's because the seattube sizing on Roadinis is short (sloping
>> toptube) relative to the effective toptube..it's probably sized like a
>> normal 65cm frame.
>>
>> Perhaps I can interest you in a lovely 60.5cm (normal style) custom!
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/the-doc-steve-custom-special
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Re: [RBW] Learning to Ride

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I’ve noticed same interaction of families and friends getting out on bikes
and walks together here in Austin.  Neighbors hanging outside actually
visiting.  Physically distancing but still very much fulfilling the social
need.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:39 PM DHans  wrote:

> I was out walking my pup in the neighborhood today and noticed more
> people, especially more children, out and about riding bicycles and just
> playing in general. I also couldn’t help but notice that fewer cars were
> zipping around on this beautiful Saturday evening. Spring has sprung!  Many
> of the local restaurants are closed except for takeout, the parks are
> mostly closed including tennis courts and soccer fields. So, it seems folks
> are staying home and finding ways to bide the time. If there is a positive
> side to this pandemic it is that, at least here in Watkinsville, Ga people
> are seeming to realize you can enjoy time at home with family and even get
> outdoors and enjoy the warm refreshing air.
>
> As I was walking I noticed a dad teaching his daughter to ride her bike.
> It was so much fun to watch and made me think back to when I learned to
> ride. My dad would push me while holding me up and running along with me.
> I asked how do I stop dad? He said just pedal backwards and you’ll stop
> (remember pedal brakes?). I tried several times but fell each time. He knew
> I could do it and told me so ...and I could..the problem is I didn’t know
> it yet. After the first fall I was mad at him for encouraging me to ride.
> The second fall left me mad at that stupid bicycle. After the third fall I
> was just mad that I fell and became resolved to do it. And, I did!! Of
> course I fell again because as soon as I felt a little out of control I
> pulled my feet off of the pedals. Goodbye brakes, hello ground. After that
> I was riding everyday for hours on end. Riding meant freedom and I was all
> in!
> As the dad in my neighborhood pushed his daughter along he would let go
> without her knowing and she would glide along for a bit and then pull her
> feet off the pedals and come to a stop. He knew she could do it but she
> didn’t know she could do it...yet. Two boys stopped by on their own
> bicycles to give encouragement. You can do it, they told her. And, she did
> after a few more tries. Now the freedom and fun is all hers.
> This all makes me appreciate riding like I did as a child. I am thankful
> for riding my bike and for the joy of life, even in these difficult days.
> This too shall pass
>
> Cheers,
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] WTB

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Thank you.  After seeing that posting, 61cm seems too large for me. My PBH
is 89 which is lowest end of Riv sizing.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Here's one in Santa Rosa, CA. Which you will see on this forum if I ever
> get through moderation..
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/santa-rosa-rivendell-roadini-frameset-xl/7096653502.html
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