[RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Michael Ullmer]

It's time to part ways with my Ram. It's been a great frame capable of lots 
of different build options, but overlaps too much with my Fitz Rando. 

It was sold to me as a 60, but the top tube measures 57, so it leads me to 
believe its a 58. Here's a link to the original catalog with geo chart at 
the 
end: 
https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf

Frame is in great shape, one small dent on the top tube presumably from the 
handlebar/shifter hitting it. I've tried to capture most of the paint 
scratches. This made a great 650bx42 conversion with fenders. I used Tektro 
R559 brakes to reach the lower rim brake surface. As a 700c build, I was 
able to do 32s with fenders.

Comes with an Ultegra Headset installed and cable stops.

I'll include an original Rambouillet catalog as well.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kVPXz1K3bdXdt4ax9

$750 plus shipping via ups ground.

Thanks!

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: Tosco Bars (to the rescue!)

[Michael Morrissey]

This looks fantastic. Trek certainly did something right with their old 
steel frames. I also have the 31.8 Tosco bars on my bike, and they're 
incredible.

Michael


On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 8:17:25 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Steve,
>
> This looks great. Always fun to build up a cheap but good bike for certain 
> errands, camping trips, etc.
> I actually just did a similar treatment to a 1997 Trek 720 Multitrack 
> (ostensibly for one of my sons...)
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> -Dave
>
> On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 11:21:02 AM UTC-4 Steve wrote:
>
>> I picked up a 1990 Trek 520 over the winter. The price was right and I 
>> had been scouting for a used bike I could pack into the back of my small 
>> pickup along with all the rest of the camping supplies -- and not worry 
>> about scuffing it up or having to pull the fenders off (versus my favored 
>> Platypus which had proven to be a bit too looong for the task).
>>
>> But how to make the 520 comfortable for my old bones?  I fitted a VO 1" 
>> quill x 80mm with 31.8 so I could mount a Ritchey Ergomax drop bar I had 
>> sitting in the parts bin - not bad, but the reach/stack was not quite what 
>> I needed. So, I turned to RBW for a Tosco in the 650mm x 31.8 flavor. 
>> TaDa!!!
>>
>> [image: 631DEC09-4FC6-4FFA-9BA5-A2CA50353FE4_1_201_a.jpeg]
>> [image: B85D603D-8A7C-4EC1-9BC4-ED9140B29ABC_1_201_a.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Nine is fine! 1x9 drivetrains in 2024. Who else is doing it?

[Michael Morrissey]

I think it was Bike Snob NYC who said that a lot of the fun of riding a 
Rivendell is combining components that aren't meant to go together and 
seeing if they work. On my Rivendell I have a 1x9 drivetrain. I use a SRAM 
GX 10 speed clutch derailleur, Silver 1 shifter on a thumbie, a narrow-wide 
Wolftooth chainring, a 9 speed Connex chain, and a 34 toothed 9 speed 
cassette. It all works great.

I was wondering what other 1x9 drivetrains people here are using, and if 
anyone has experience with any new 1x9 systems. Microshift, Shimano CUES, 
and Box components are all new options within the last few years. I'm also 
considering a SRAM GX Eagle crankset on my bike. Has anyone tried this with 
a 1x9?

I am also interested in any high-end 9 speed cassettes (like SRAM's PG990, 
with an aluminum spider). Anyone holding a NOS one? SRAM has 10 speed 
cassettes that are very high end still available, and I might switch to one 
of those because of availability. 

Thoughts?

Michael






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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr L Baba Fiets

[Michael Baquerizo]

Nice! If you don't have any experience with rear yepps, i'd spring for the 
frame mounted one. now that they've upgraded to the slimmer metal bars on 
the maxi, it makes the whole interface a lot less intrusive. i had a rack 
mounted one and it meant whenever i wasn't with my kid i had this ugly 
thing on my rear rack. 

yours looks a lot more spritely than mine, although once its moving i feel 
like it can really go. 

On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 10:31:14 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Nice looking Clem, Michael! I think the Clem is a perfect bike for toting 
> kids. I recently shipped my old 64cm Clem L from Brooklyn to Florida for a 
> kid-toting beach cruiser to keep at the in-laws'. Some pics here. Thinking 
> next time we're down, I'll switch to a rear-mounted Yepp Maxi. This one is 
> set up as a single-speed with a chain tensioner and a double up front but 
> no FD. I do the Will Keating trick and foot shift if I need to (or stop and 
> manually shift it with my keys). It's set up on a 42-26t Clipper crank with 
> a 16t cog. The only time I need to switch to the granny gear is if I'm in 
> loose sand at the beach. It's a fun ride to say the least. 
> [image: IMG_6207.jpg][image: IMG_6270.jpg][image: IMG_6297.jpg]
>
> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 10:34:53 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> For father's day (aka the day of excuses) I decided to build up a bike to 
>> take my kid around on in the city. 
>>
>> I actually began this journey a while ago, when I found this yepp budget 
>> on craigslist. as theyre not available in the states, i jumped on it. 
>>
>> a year + later, after my kid had sized out of a yepp maxi, I purchased 
>> this clem complete off of craigslist as well, and decked it out with some 
>> bits I had in the bin, as well as some parts needed to make it so we could 
>> both ride together. 
>>
>> now, complete with spoke guard, his own handle bars, and various other 
>> accoutrements i present the (almost done) baba (mandarin for dad and what 
>> my kid calls me) fiets. Obvious inspiration comes from dutch mama fiets.
>>
>> We have a week off together, where we'll mostly be getting around on bike 
>> - but we've also been riding it around since fathers day. 
>>
>> There are some issues. It's not perfect, but its still a great bike to 
>> ride. With his added weight its pretty flexy. The yepp seat comes with feet 
>> mounts that I can't get to stay in place. Will be trying some bar tape at 
>> the clamp area, as well as some loctite. 
>>
>> Yepp budgets aren't available here and I imagine its because whoever 
>> oversees these sorts of products hasnt deemed them safe for the bike 
>> infrastructure the US has. that said, my kids been on a back bike seat 
>> since he was legally allowed to so I have a level of trust in him. 
>>
>> The bars for him, were an amazon purchase, theyre terrible quality but 
>> they fit the application. I removed the grips, threw on some ESIs and taped 
>> them riv style. 
>>
>> There are a lot of pros - the clem really is the perfect platform. I 
>> bought one for my wife and like it more for country use than my appaloosa. 
>> Getting this second one was a no brainer. The microshift shifters are the 
>> best friction shifter i've used. Worlds better than silver, and marginally 
>> better than shimano's offering (i've used 10s and 9 s). The new (old, i 
>> know) grip kings ACTUALLY grip, unlike the old style which gets quite 
>> slippery, especially when wet. The bike came with a B17S and it's turning 
>> out to be a great saddle. I bought a sim works obento rack (instead of the 
>> riv basket rack I have on my Sam) It gets the job done, and I can easily 
>> transfer my bag between both bikes. I won't max it out quite like I do on 
>> the basket rack 
>>
>> The bike still needs some bits. I want a double kickstand on there 
>> because I dont like not having one, I REALLY want one of those Hebie 
>> Elastomer wheel stabilizes that Somafab sells, just waiting for a sale (or 
>> i'll order it from Europe), I want to get a Nalgene sized bottle cage to 
>> use as a reservoir for summer time hydration AND finally, I'd love to throw 
>> a dynamo + lights on there. Since I'm mostly riding during the day this is 
>> the least pressing, but it will happen...eventually. 
>>
>> Sorry for the single pic, although i've basically never had luck 
>> uploading multiple photos on the this platform, so the one will have to do.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1663.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Your Riv's Next Upgades / Parts Swaps

[Michael Baquerizo]

i'm sure you're aware they were made for use with a decauleur which i don't 
think you can use with either of your bags BUT - maybe with an irish strap 
from bar to tombstone theyd support a handlebar bag? i have no experience 
but the net says they can get bouncy with a heavier load. 



On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 11:32:09 AM UTC-4 Brian Forsee wrote:

> Michael (or anyone else),
>
> Have you tried one of those little dia compe racks? I'm aware of their 
> existence but am skeptical of their rigidity. I inevitably end up maxing 
> out/overloading racks.
>
> Brian
>
> On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 10:25:17 AM UTC-5 jonathon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> After picking up my first Riv, a Rosco I picked up less than a couple of 
>> weeks ago, I have realized that the Chocos do not have a long enough grip 
>> area to fit my SunTour ratchet thumbies and make use of the "hook" or the 
>> second, more stretched out hand position. Although I could try moving the 
>> shifters far down the bar past the hook. This'll make shifting even more of 
>> a conscious decision, but it would certainly buy me more grip area real 
>> estate. However, I'll be trying the wider and risier Wald 898 that has a 
>> long grip area as well. I'll also be doing a traditional Riv grip as 
>> the cheap Oury knock-offs are way too thin to offer anything in the way of 
>> comfort (this also puts the many scraps of handlebar tape and wrap I have 
>> lying around to good use). 
>>
>> John M.
>> Tucson, AZ (sweating it out!)
>>
>> On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 8:05:23 AM UTC-7 Nick A. wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty in love with how my Atlantis is currently riding, so there's 
>>> not much by way of cockpit changes or anything coming down the line. I do, 
>>> however, hem and haw about my wheels. I'm currently running a set of 36H 
>>> Velocity Cliffhangers with straight spokes that I picked up from Velomine 
>>> during the original build. I'm no weight weenie by any means, but they 
>>> weigh a ton. With that in mind, I've assembled parts for a new, lighter, 
>>> slightly more road-y wheelset (I've been riding paved trails about 90% of 
>>> the time):
>>>
>>> Sun CR18 32H polished rims
>>> Sapim Race DB spokes
>>> NOS Shimano RX100 front hub
>>> NOS Shimano Deore LX rear hub
>>>
>>> It should shave at least a couple pounds off, which would be nice.
>>>
>>> Nick in Falls Church VA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 12:50:23 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Quickbeam is pretty dialed. Enough that I’ve given away or sold 
>>>> spare wheelsets or built other bikes around them. 
>>>>
>>>> The bell is pretty terrible, though. It’s a Sogreni fancy-pants unit I 
>>>> got from a Riv garage sale for $5. Apparently someone there also found it 
>>>> hard to ring and dull sounding! When I ride I imagine ways I can hack 
>>>> it so it doesn’t suck, but I probably just need to replace it with a good 
>>>> bell that’s easy and satisfying to ring. 
>>>>
>>>> It’s my only Riv, and I’ve had it for 20 years, so it shouldn’t be too 
>>>> surprising that there’s not much left to tweak. 
>>>>
>>>> Philip
>>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 12:52:11 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When building up a bike sometimes you make do with what you have on 
>>>>> hand already, or is readily available, or affordable.  Though in the back 
>>>>> of your mind you've already identified a replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious as to what parts on your current builds have you slotted 
>>>>> for eventual replacement at some time in the future?  What will you be 
>>>>> replacing it with?  Any dream parts in there, or just more functional or 
>>>>> comfortable choices?
>>>>>
>>>>> On my Roadini I'm really happy with the touch-points: saddle and seat 
>>>>> post, bars and tape, pedals; one of my wheel sets (with the 43mm tires); 
>>>>> the cages; brake levers, callipers, and DT shifters. The chain and 
>>>>> cassette 
>>>>> are fine--and I want to stick with 11sp--but the crank and derailleurs 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> on my list of upgrades/swaps (partially for aesthetics...would like 
>>>>> silver, 
>>>>> partially for function as I would like a bit more great range on the low 
>>>>> end).  I would also like to replace the second wheel set that I use with 
>>>>> 30mm tires for road-only rides (to something lighter/faster).  I would 
>>>>> also 
>>>>> change the housing (aesthetics, maybe green or grey), and the saddle bag.
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Your Riv's Next Upgades / Parts Swaps

[Michael Baquerizo]

how about a dia compe (or perhaps others make) bag support ala 

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On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 11:02:09 AM UTC-4 Brian Forsee wrote:

> I grabbed my first riv, a waterford Homer about a year and half ago. Its 
> been a great bike with one exception, it's cargo carrying capacity. I much 
> prefer front-mounted bags/racks for light to medium loads, both in terms of 
> aesthetics and bike handling. The fork does not have any rack mounts, 
> something that I overlooked when purchasing, but it probably wouldn't have 
> stopped me. Between that and the centerpull brakes (diacomp 710) it came 
> with, I've been kind of SOL for carrying much of anything. I have a couple 
> of handlebar saddle bags (swift zeitgeist, fabs chest) I could run but the 
> exposed brake cable prevents their attachment at the head tube. SO, I am 
> considering going to a side pull brake to eliminate the brake cable issue 
> and allow me to run either of these two bags rackless. I think this will 
> drastically increase the milage I put on the Homer for a couple of reasons. 
> First, it will make it a viable commuter. Second, even on 'just' bike rides 
> I often find myself needing to carry some amount of stuff. 
>
> Brian
>
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 11:50:23 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> My Quickbeam is pretty dialed. Enough that I’ve given away or sold spare 
>> wheelsets or built other bikes around them. 
>>
>> The bell is pretty terrible, though. It’s a Sogreni fancy-pants unit I 
>> got from a Riv garage sale for $5. Apparently someone there also found it 
>> hard to ring and dull sounding! When I ride I imagine ways I can hack it 
>> so it doesn’t suck, but I probably just need to replace it with a good bell 
>> that’s easy and satisfying to ring. 
>>
>> It’s my only Riv, and I’ve had it for 20 years, so it shouldn’t be too 
>> surprising that there’s not much left to tweak. 
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 12:52:11 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>>
>>> When building up a bike sometimes you make do with what you have on hand 
>>> already, or is readily available, or affordable.  Though in the back of 
>>> your mind you've already identified a replacement.
>>>
>>> I'm curious as to what parts on your current builds have you slotted for 
>>> eventual replacement at some time in the future?  What will you be 
>>> replacing it with?  Any dream parts in there, or just more functional or 
>>> comfortable choices?
>>>
>>> On my Roadini I'm really happy with the touch-points: saddle and seat 
>>> post, bars and tape, pedals; one of my wheel sets (with the 43mm tires); 
>>> the cages; brake levers, callipers, and DT shifters. The chain and cassette 
>>> are fine--and I want to stick with 11sp--but the crank and derailleurs are 
>>> on my list of upgrades/swaps (partially for aesthetics...would like silver, 
>>> partially for function as I would like a bit more great range on the low 
>>> end).  I would also like to replace the second wheel set that I use with 
>>> 30mm tires for road-only rides (to something lighter/faster).  I would also 
>>> change the housing (aesthetics, maybe green or grey), and the saddle bag.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Your Riv's Next Upgades / Parts Swaps

[Michael Baquerizo]

for no reason other than deciding my appaloosa is my mountain bike, then 
finding an old xt mini group for it, i finally found an xt headset to go on 
it as well. deciding if i want to own a headset removal tool, or just have 
it installed at a shop.

on my clem, i really want one of those hebie elastomer fork stabilizers, 
and to somehow make my double kickstand work. the hebie is just far too 
expensive so i'm waiting for a sale. the kickstand, i think that will haunt 
me for all of my days.

On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 7:58:59 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> Jason F - I wish I had the confidence to switch between drops and swept 
> back.  I always wanted to try albatross or VO granola on my Salsa Fargo 
> (which I ride as a mountain bike on non technical trails, with lots of 
> paved connecting everything).  One day I may give it a shot.
>
> Steve - "obsessing", absolutely you're not alone.  "engaging avocation", 
> great phrase!  "core addiction", yes but a health one.  (P.S. sorry I think 
> I replied similar just to you...I do that too often and need to pay 
> attention before I click).
>
> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 1:24:46 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's reassuring, after perusing this thread, that I am not alone in 
>> obsessing over and  tinkering with my bike builds. 
>>
>> Is it just an engaging avocation --- or a hard core addiction?  
>>
>> No matter, it results in comfortable, good looking bikes that keep me in 
>> the saddle and moving. 
>> On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 10:59:44 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> My Hillborne is running Velocity A23 rims, on the second rear and the 
>>> front is nearing end-of-life, and I'd like to switch to Pacenti Brevet's 
>>> because they're just so darn good looking.  That's about it for 'permanent' 
>>> changes; I do like to switch between drops and albatross and also fenders + 
>>> slicks vs. knobbies on the Hillborne but those are more seasonal in nature. 
>>>
>>> The Bombadil is similarly dialed in; I do bounce around with what bar I 
>>> want to run and have a similar tire issue to Bill - I have four pairs for 
>>> the Bombadil I think, so even if I put a few thousand km on it per year I'm 
>>> set for a bunch of years. I'm glad to be at this stage where the bikes are 
>>> totally where I want them to be, but I also get fidgety... it's nice to 
>>> have something to look forward to!  
>>>
>>> On Monday 15 July 2024 at 16:28:41 UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>>>
 The Tange adjustable bottom bracket Riv sells was too much tempatation 
 for me. Wanted to install it on my Hillborne. Love the look, the feel and 
 I 
 like to experiment so this was right up my alley. Unfortunately the 118 
 spindle was a little too wide. No way to get a replacement spindle from 
 Riv 
 or other sources I've checked. I will likely put this up for sale and buy 
 another one but with a shorter spindle. 

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> When building up a bike sometimes you make do with what you have on 
> hand already, or is readily available, or affordable.  Though in the back 
> of your mind you've already identified a replacement.
>
> I'm curious as to what parts on your current builds have you slotted 
> for eventual replacement at some time in the future?  What will you be 
> replacing it with?  Any dream parts in there, or just more functional or 
> comfortable choices?
>
> On my Roadini I'm really happy with the touch-points: saddle and seat 
> post, bars and tape, pedals; one of my wheel sets (with the 43mm tires); 
> the cages; brake levers, callipers, and DT shifters. The chain and 
> cassette 
> are fine--and I want to stick with 11sp--but the crank and derailleurs 
> are 
> on my list of upgrades/swaps (partially for aesthetics...would like 
> silver, 
> partially for function as I would like a bit more great range on the low 
> end).  I would also like to replace the second wheel set that I use with 
> 30mm tires for road-only rides (to something lighter/faster).  I would 
> also 
> change the housing (aesthetics, maybe green or grey), and the saddle bag.
>


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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville bikeaback bags (panniers) + Sackville handlebar bag

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I believe the bags are actually sackville hub area bags custom designed to fit Nitto Marks Hub area rack, not the more traditional recent Rivendell backabike bags/panniers… which feature buckles, and hooks…Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2024, at 5:04 PM, dylan green  wrote:Hey Everyone - Selling some very lightly used bags from years back. I am funding a larger purchase and selling off some items that I'm not using (nor have I really used much at all!) Prices are all net to me - shipping is extra, or pickup in the LA area is welcome. Sackville bikeaback - a pair in khaki. These were an impulse buy a few years back and haven't used them much. I wish I needed them! $225 I believe I paid upwards of 350 when tax/shipping was included.Sackville handlebar bag. I don't remember the name of this model, but I call it a handlebar bag since that's what Will let me borrow when I was out on various test rides. $60 (or 40 if you want all the bags)here is a link to photos: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11lj2FAM7cRl-0pkmpoA9kkcTI1GtWU_R?usp=sharing



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Re: [RBW] Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Michael Baquerizo]

others mileage may vary, but i recently started using a set of microshift 
thumbies on a new to me bike.

i also have shimano on another bike (as you have) and silver! on another. 
all set up friction.

of the three, the microshift has felt the best. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124833117848?epid=9024683600=01J1V7F30B9KENRB255JF84DAW=item1d10a23698:g:X2EAAOSwk8pmO9yC=enc%3AAQAJ4NcfUZomssn1t7VI%2Fpf%2BBKOv24CsVKs3Fj%2FzcrSCP3qzd2wrvDOpTNYN4ZDRwgW1oCvrMn7UYZ%2FNJWI2Sq8Hoe6IUuCa5s1b3mxiqab38P7ZICw30vNdRH%2FpGEKJbFfYPVfModc%2Fztu9pUge5ErDdmyqFKcAZa4e3D3cbUm%2Flyewy4IFcgSZ%2F8WjV%2Bw1M6Zit%2Bb61dPHzd1spElNNX6ubNhEPf2ZWqfNmA5xAohvxNwAd%2Fj91TZe1fM7JApHtpIHj9fac7AY5e1B2CYWtS1Q4PvTZJSnxbr88vUvZg5jH45p%7Ctkp%3ABFBMjrG8545k

at their price, it would be cheaper to just get a set of them, and retire 
your shimano, or switch those to another bike (if necessary) or just parts 
bin them.

not what you asked, but owning paul thumb mounts, i would rather just buy 
these. they look pretty too. 

On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:43:21 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> What a great group. Sally, love the purple and the Platy. I have a Platy 
> too. 
>
> Thanks for the note on the Riv mounts. I’ll ask bike shop to look at them 
> too. 
>
> Yes, I’m just looking to move the placement not change the friction 
> shifting.   
>
> I’ll be retiring soon and have been wanting to do this for a while.   I 
> might as well do it now.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:24:11 PM UTC-4 dros...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the Paul thing is just the pod to which your mount the shifter. It 
>> doesn’t include the actual shift mechanism. I swapped the pod on my Uno 
>> shifter and it was easy but I had to modify it a bit to make it work. I 
>> think you’re looking for a part that you can have mounted at a bike shop. 
>> I’m unaware of a pod other than the Paul component pod. They make great 
>> stuff if you can stomach the price. If not, I’d go with something like this:
>>
>> https://www.microshift.com/us/models/sl-t09/
>>
>> Can you post a photo of your shifters? 
>>
>> If you have the Rivendell silver shifters, Rivendell sells a bar mount 
>> conversion  
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk
>>
>>
>> Send a pic and I’ll be able to give you a better idea. 
>>
>> Unless they’re Dura Ace thumb shifters, it’s probably not with spending 
>> that much to mount them to the bars versus just replacing the whole 
>> shifter. 
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:25 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> Dross,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the speedie reply.
>>>
>>> 8 speed? 9?  Dunno.  I'm not looking to replace the shifters, just move 
>>> them to a thumbie mount.  Do you think they meant replacing the shifters?  
>>> This is the web page they sent me:  
>>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/shimanothumbies/
>>>   
>>> Would moving the shifters to a thumbie mount change their fantastic and 
>>> smooth as butta' shifting?
>>>
>>> I'm sorta like Leah, bicycle bell ding ding...  I just like to get on 
>>> and ride. I know to pump air in my tires and lube the chain.   I just know 
>>> I don't like the placement of the current shifter.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 7:08:07 PM UTC-4 dros...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 What speed are you running? The problem with the Paul mount is that you 
 can get a new shifter for less money. I have one of the blingy Uno 
 shifters 
 but I also have two bikes with Microshift and it works just as well. There 
 isn’t too much you can do to engineer a significantly better friction 
 shifter which is one of the great things about friction shifters. 

 On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:04 PM Roberta  wrote:

> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that 
> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because 
> of 
> me knocking them out of gear with my knee, hand, ooops bike just leaned 
> on 
> a wall ...  So I asked my much loved and trusted bike shop, Keystone 
> Bikes, 
> for options and received this response:  "...The only drawback is that 
> the 
> part is pricy. The Paul Thumbie 
> 
>  
> is the tool for the job, but $127. The Velo Orange Equivalent 
> is 
> cheaper but unavailable.  Installation would be recabling the both 
> shifters 
> and setting the thumb mounts up."
>
> I'm not against paying the $$, but before I do, I wanted to get some 
> opinions on this mount, setup, placement, suggestions,  things I don't 
> know 
> to ask about,  "gotchas."  I know Paul components are high quality and 
> I'm 
> at a point in my life that I want to do things right and do it just once. 
>  
>
> Thanks for the input. 
>
> Roberta
>
>
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[RBW] Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Michael Moote]

Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a few 
messages from different folks before my post got taken down but tenere 
had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted to 
check in here to see if anyone knew them? 

email address tenere...@gmail.com

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Michael Connors]

Mine also had a bottom bracket installed

On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:33:38 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>
> I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
> recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
> I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
> sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.
>
>
> 51cm Sam just arrived, it is 2637 grams for the frame (including headset 
> cups, water bottle bolts, and seat post binder bolt) and 844 grams for the 
> fork (including crown race).
>
> That's a chunky 792 grams heavier than my Waterford ST-22, 719 grams 
> heavier than my Riv Road, but the fork is 38 grams _lighter_ than the fork 
> on my ST-22, and only 23 grams heavier than the fork on my Riv Road.
>
> I'm sure most of that extra weight is in the kickstand plate ;-)
>
> Oh, and internet pictures don't do justice to the Periwinkle color. It's 
> magnificent.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King and Nitto Parts

[Michael Ullmer]

Wheelset is now sold.

I have one more R-14 for sale if anyone is interested. Price is $90 plus 
shipping. Pics here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XLZ6zY7hf4X7DKVm7

Thanks all!

On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 9:59:33 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> All that remains is the wheelset. Price drop to 325 and I'll split shipping
>
> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Both king Headsets are now sold.
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> If I didn't have such a stock of parts, I'd be all about buying.  For 
>>> anyone on the fence, there are knock off Chris King 2-Nut conversion kits 
>>> available on eBay for 1" headsets.  Come to think of it, I might take a 
>>> look at whether the FSA Duron nuts would work when I get home. Hmmm.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:36:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Offloading some nice King parts and a Nitto R14. Prices don't include 
>>>> shipping.
>>>>
>>>> 1) 1" Chris King Nothreadset - $75
>>>> --Missing the King stem cap but will include a black 1" FSA cap. I also 
>>>> have a 1" starnut I can include if you need it.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Chris King 1 1/8" Headset Nothreadset Black - $90
>>>> --All pieces included except starnut. 
>>>>
>>>> 3) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>>> --Nitto R14, all hardware included. This is the verison with the 
>>>> tombstone, fits a Rivendell Sackville bag great!
>>>>
>>>> 4) 26" Chris King 135/100 QR Wheelset. - $350
>>>> --The front hub is a Disc Go Tech hub that can take a disc rotor, or 
>>>> you can remove the adapter and just run it with a rim brake. I had these 
>>>> for my older 26er Curtlo that had a disc suspension fork. The freehub 
>>>> body on the rear is in great shape.
>>>> Mavic X517 Grey Front Rim 32h Mavic X517 Silver Rear Rim 32h Silver 
>>>> King Hubs front/rear 135/100 QR Pics here: 
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/myeQRHdx99VP7dit7
>>>>
>>>> PM off-list
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[Michael Connors]

Blue Lug did a discussion on youtube. Watch the Appaloosa and Platypus 
segments
https://youtu.be/Yx83uMhIgKA?t=3179

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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[Michael Connors]

https://youtu.be/Yx83uMhIgKA?t=3179



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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King and Nitto Parts

[Michael Ullmer]

All that remains is the wheelset. Price drop to 325 and I'll split shipping

On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Both king Headsets are now sold.
>
> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> If I didn't have such a stock of parts, I'd be all about buying.  For 
>> anyone on the fence, there are knock off Chris King 2-Nut conversion kits 
>> available on eBay for 1" headsets.  Come to think of it, I might take a 
>> look at whether the FSA Duron nuts would work when I get home. Hmmm.
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:36:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Offloading some nice King parts and a Nitto R14. Prices don't include 
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> 1) 1" Chris King Nothreadset - $75
>>> --Missing the King stem cap but will include a black 1" FSA cap. I also 
>>> have a 1" starnut I can include if you need it.
>>>
>>> 2) Chris King 1 1/8" Headset Nothreadset Black - $90
>>> --All pieces included except starnut. 
>>>
>>> 3) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>> --Nitto R14, all hardware included. This is the verison with the 
>>> tombstone, fits a Rivendell Sackville bag great!
>>>
>>> 4) 26" Chris King 135/100 QR Wheelset. - $350
>>> --The front hub is a Disc Go Tech hub that can take a disc rotor, or you 
>>> can remove the adapter and just run it with a rim brake. I had these for my 
>>> older 26er Curtlo that had a disc suspension fork. The freehub body on 
>>> the rear is in great shape.
>>> Mavic X517 Grey Front Rim 32h Mavic X517 Silver Rear Rim 32h Silver King 
>>> Hubs front/rear 135/100 QR Pics here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/myeQRHdx99VP7dit7
>>>
>>> PM off-list
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King and Nitto Parts

[Michael Ullmer]

Both king Headsets are now sold.

On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> If I didn't have such a stock of parts, I'd be all about buying.  For 
> anyone on the fence, there are knock off Chris King 2-Nut conversion kits 
> available on eBay for 1" headsets.  Come to think of it, I might take a 
> look at whether the FSA Duron nuts would work when I get home. Hmmm.
>
> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:36:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Offloading some nice King parts and a Nitto R14. Prices don't include 
>> shipping.
>>
>> 1) 1" Chris King Nothreadset - $75
>> --Missing the King stem cap but will include a black 1" FSA cap. I also 
>> have a 1" starnut I can include if you need it.
>>
>> 2) Chris King 1 1/8" Headset Nothreadset Black - $90
>> --All pieces included except starnut. 
>>
>> 3) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>> --Nitto R14, all hardware included. This is the verison with the 
>> tombstone, fits a Rivendell Sackville bag great!
>>
>> 4) 26" Chris King 135/100 QR Wheelset. - $350
>> --The front hub is a Disc Go Tech hub that can take a disc rotor, or you 
>> can remove the adapter and just run it with a rim brake. I had these for my 
>> older 26er Curtlo that had a disc suspension fork. The freehub body on 
>> the rear is in great shape.
>> Mavic X517 Grey Front Rim 32h Mavic X517 Silver Rear Rim 32h Silver King 
>> Hubs front/rear 135/100 QR Pics here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/myeQRHdx99VP7dit7
>>
>> PM off-list
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Chris King and Nitto Parts

[Michael Ullmer]

Offloading some nice King parts and a Nitto R14. Prices don't include 
shipping.

1) 1" Chris King Nothreadset - $75
--Missing the King stem cap but will include a black 1" FSA cap. I also 
have a 1" starnut I can include if you need it.

2) Chris King 1 1/8" Headset Nothreadset Black - $90
--All pieces included except starnut. 

3) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
--Nitto R14, all hardware included. This is the verison with the tombstone, 
fits a Rivendell Sackville bag great!

4) 26" Chris King 135/100 QR Wheelset. - $350
--The front hub is a Disc Go Tech hub that can take a disc rotor, or you 
can remove the adapter and just run it with a rim brake. I had these for my 
older 26er Curtlo that had a disc suspension fork. The freehub body on the 
rear is in great shape.
Mavic X517 Grey Front Rim 32h Mavic X517 Silver Rear Rim 32h Silver King 
Hubs front/rear 135/100 QR Pics here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/myeQRHdx99VP7dit7

PM off-list

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Re: [RBW] The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

[Michael Connors]

>From the 4/26 email newsletter-
The Roaduno colors that *will* be available are: *Silver, Purple, and 
Mustard*. Silver will sell out first, but blessed be the flexible who get 
whichever is available in their size; they all look good, and keep in mind 
that our photos never do the colors justice. Mustard is the most toned down 
but it has a little sparkle in the sun and looks fantastic once it's dusty 
and well used. It would be nuts to expect everybody to like Purple, but if 
you could see it in person I'm sure we could convince everybody who's on or 
even near the fence to get one.


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[RBW] Re: revisted topic: plestcher double leg kickstands (not) fitting on rivs

[Michael Baquerizo]

Thank you for that info! Direct from the source at that. Kind of annoying 
Blue Lug is putting incompatible products on their builds, and so many of 
them, as it led me to believe there was a real solution. 

Kickstand won't be for mounting and dismounting the kid, he's actually 5 so 
im hoping with a quick boost he'll get on on his own. I'm using the Yepp 
Budget which is a version of the next seat after the Yepp Maxi like you 
have on there. I just like a kickstand and prefer a double. If necessary 
i'll get a big boy and donate this one to another bike. 

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:26:25 AM UTC-4 Frakern wrote:

> Blue Lug put a double stand on our Clem Smith Jr when we bought it through 
> them. After a while it would rub on the tires when we had fatter tires on 
> it. As I recall when I took it back to Blue Lug and they adjusted it by 
> rotating it slightly and tightening down the bolts. But they said it would 
> eventually shift back and start rubbing again so this would need to be done 
> every once in a while. In the end I filed down the legs a bit with a metal 
> file where it was rubbing to try to give it more clearance. 
>
> Be aware though that if you're having a child carrier on the back rack the 
> bike won't be stable even with the plestcher double. At least for us, the 
> balance of the bike was such that with a child on the back seat the bike 
> would lean on the back wheel with the front wheel in the air and be 
> unstable. Without a child on the back seat the bike rests with the front 
> wheel down and the back wheel up. We ended up getting a different stand 
> that I can't recall the name of at the moment that was much larger and 
> folded out more in a v shape towards the front of the bike that made it 
> more stable. But as our son got older and heavier, the stand mount on the 
> bike started to bend and wear out. So be careful. 
>
> [image: PXL_20231130_045249926.jpg]
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 2:44:25 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> I tried this sometime a year or two ago. 
>>
>> I am very close to finishing up a clem L that will be a dedicated kid 
>> carrier (think mamafiet) with spoke protector, yepp budget seat, etc.
>>
>> i had a spare plestcher kickstand hanging around and wanted to get it on 
>> the bike. i KNOW blue lug does this, and it really doesn't matter the size 
>> tire. mine are not even close to maxed out on the bike and im still getting 
>> the dreaded rub (got the same on my country appaloosa) 
>>
>> does anyone have any experience wit this? has anyone asked blue lug how 
>> they do it? I am not a huge fan of single leggers and i don't really wan to 
>> spend money on a different kickstand ( but i will) 
>>
>> i'd love to get the one i have working. but am curious as to a sure fire 
>> way to do so. before anyone suggests, i've aready reached out to riv. they 
>> don't have any real solutions. but i know one exists. im determined.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> michael
>>
>

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[RBW] revisted topic: plestcher double leg kickstands (not) fitting on rivs

[Michael Baquerizo]

I tried this sometime a year or two ago. 

I am very close to finishing up a clem L that will be a dedicated kid 
carrier (think mamafiet) with spoke protector, yepp budget seat, etc.

i had a spare plestcher kickstand hanging around and wanted to get it on 
the bike. i KNOW blue lug does this, and it really doesn't matter the size 
tire. mine are not even close to maxed out on the bike and im still getting 
the dreaded rub (got the same on my country appaloosa) 

does anyone have any experience wit this? has anyone asked blue lug how 
they do it? I am not a huge fan of single leggers and i don't really wan to 
spend money on a different kickstand ( but i will) 

i'd love to get the one i have working. but am curious as to a sure fire 
way to do so. before anyone suggests, i've aready reached out to riv. they 
don't have any real solutions. but i know one exists. im determined.

thanks

michael

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Clem L for 26 inch wheels

[Michael Baquerizo]

some of the clem's on this page are for sure 26" 

https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works-clem-smith-jr/page/2/

looks like there's a blue and silver, at least.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 4:43:40 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Doug,
> Sounds about right. Thanks for the info!
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 4:27:21 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I know the original L 45 had 26 wheels. Not sure about the current 
>> iteration.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 4:21:15 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure when this model was sold, but I'm looking for the biggest 
>>> clem L that fit 26 inch wheels. It's for my significant other who is around 
>>> 5'4. I think any color is fine except for olive green. I believe there were 
>>> orange, silver, and dark green, but I'd need a fact check on that. I'd 
>>> prefer to pick up on the northeast; NYC metropolitan area would be idea. 
>>> Pics would be great from owners who aren't planning to sell as well.  Thank 
>>> you!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> NYCbikeguy
>>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Small parts - Velo Orange, Salsa, Shimano, All City, Tektro

[Michael Ullmer]

Cross-posted from the i-bob list. Prices don't include shipping


1) Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer - $10 (pending)

 

2) Salsa Front Black Flip-off Skewer - $5

 

3) Shimano 600 Tri-Color Brake Levers - SOLD

 

4) Shimano Deore XT "Deer Head" Brake Levers BL-M700 - $25

 

5) 17t All City Track Cog 1/8" Black - $15 (pending)

 

6) Tektro Short Reach Brake Calipers - $30


8) Deckas 110bcd Chainrings 50t, 44t, 40t, 36t - $40

--These rings came with some cranks that I bought, but I don't have a use 
for them. Only the 40t ring was used and for about 50 miles. The rest are 
brand new.


Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nkXonp3e5x2PUb1j7


Very open to offers, just want this stuff out of my bin.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear

[Michael Baquerizo]

I forgot to add, and it looks like it exists on at least one of your grips, 
but getting twine on there extra tight will also help keep them on / 
together. glad you didn't have to cement them in. makes bar swaps and 
general adjustments that much easier. 

On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 3:43:10 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's input.  I decided to go w 3 coats of the clear 
> shellac, just what I was looking for.  And also, put some electrical tape 
> underneath and slid the cork grips in w rubbing alcohol, now snug.
> [image: cork-grips.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:43:07 AM UTC-7 mwill...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]Cork grips installed with gorilla glue (gel) and two 
>> coats of amber shellac.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 29, 2024, at 9:38 AM, Josh C  wrote:
>>
>> I've only got amber shellac, so everything gets amber. I've done cork 
>> grips with it and they look great. One can of shellac has lasted me maybe 5 
>> years or so and still going strong. I prefer the amber for hemp twine and 
>> cloth bar tape, so if you only want to buy a single can, I'd vote for 
>> amber. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 9:20:12 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> rivendell has always suggest some sort of contact cement or glue to get 
>>> the grips on there. the idea that i'd pay the premium price for cork only 
>>> to have them be useless once off never sat well with me, so i've found that 
>>> a mix of various tapes (cotton tape, tubeless rim tape) are perfect for 
>>> making up the slight variance in OD / ID between the two. 
>>>
>>> as for shellac, i vote clear. amber works if you're trying to change the 
>>> color of something (like bar tape) but clear just adds a nice and classy 
>>> sheen. the cork is already brown...any browner to me comes off as old 
>>> fashioned instead of classy. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:25:34 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for the pro tip before I go and mess up some raw cork grips. 
>>>>  Is the move to do amber shellac or clear? Also, they spin on the bar and 
>>>> I 
>>>> could of course put some hair spray in there but the aftermath of stuck 
>>>> cork might suck... incase there is yet another pro tip.  appreciate it.
>>>> Tommy
>>>>
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[RBW] Photos

[Michael Connors]

Here are a couple of links to photo galleries
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/index.html
https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/

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Re: [RBW] Ebike Clem

[Michael Baquerizo]

Perhaps things have changed since your order / model but it looks like 
swytch can mount in many places, from front to back. A shame about the 
battery. I would love to electrify my clem

On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 12:11:43 PM UTC-4 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Thanks, Stephen! That’s unfortunate. Although I was thinking of going with 
> a GO+ model. The Betty has a front basket so I’ll have the battery pack in 
> the basket. This should give a bit more range. We don’t ride long. 10-20 
> miles or so. 
> I’m hoping the ebike (whether Swytch or a dedicated ebike) will get her 
> fitness up enough to eventually ween her off of it. 
>
> On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 9:52:00 AM UTC-6 Stephen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Hoch,
>>
>> To be honest, it hasn't been the best. Even though he hasn't been riding 
>> that much since getting it, the times he does ride it still tends to be his 
>> REI ebike. The downsides of the swytch kit are the limited battery range 
>> and being forced to have the battery mounted to the handlebar. Its a fair 
>> bit of weight to have up on the quill stem, and I think it puts the bike 
>> into flexy noodle territory. I imagine a betty foy would be affected 
>> similarly, and again it just doesn't go that far. I think it lasts maybe 45 
>> minutesish.
>>
>>  I think the better option is to try and riv-ify an ebike rather than 
>> ebike-ify a rivendell.
>> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 8:33:13 PM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> This is an old topic. But curious how your dad has liked the Swytch kit. 
>>>
>>> I was originally thinking of getting my wife a Specialized ebike. As she 
>>> has troubles riding the hills around here. But she loves her Betty. I 
>>> figure if this Swytch will work, that would be great for her. Hopefully 
>>> they make a 650b kit. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:10:06 AM UTC-6 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Joe,

 I can see why you feel that way. If a bike is designed from the ground 
 up to be electric it can't help but work better as a complete system than 
 a 
 converted bike, and theres been so much work done in the field in the last 
 few years. In the future, I could see myself being interested in some type 
 of cargo electric bike.

 Patrick,

 So I did another test ride yesterday and rode till the battery was 
 pretty much completely drained. Heres a link to the rwgps recording:
 https://ridewithgps.com/trips/128471987

 It appears the handlebar indicator is the more accurate indication of 
 battery level. On the flats and downhills I rode on the lowest power 
 setting, 1/5, and on the uphills would goose it up to 3/5. I tried to keep 
 it so I was pedaling very conservatively to try and imitate what my 
 father's fitness level may be. That said, with this set up I think I 
 should 
 put a bigger front chainring on the bike as I would too quickly top out of 
 my gears on any downslope. Right around mile marker 12 is where the 
 battery 
 first started to give out on me, which is consistent with the company 
 stated range of 15k(they also have an optional bigger battery pack listed 
 at 30k). 

 As the battery got low on power, the motor would quit pushing and the 
 indicator would flash, and then it would kick back in for a while before 
 doing so again. How quickly depended on how hard you were pushing the 
 motor. After the first shut off I kept the power level to 1/5. When the 
 motor would shut off the sensation was similar to riding in sand or some 
 other resistant surface on a normal bicycle. You get used to the motor 
 assistance and when it disappears you get the illusion of riding through 
 some sort of resistance. 

 Charging time took approximately 3 hrs, potentially less. Put it on 
 around 7pm, checked around 9 wasn't done, remembered again at 10:30.

 Another note on handling, it is a significant weight to have hanging 
 off of your handlebars. I flipped the battery mount around to have the 
 weight more centered over the steerer which was helpful, but I'd say it 
 still loosened up the feel of the bike though not in any seriously 
 detrimental way. And I imagine the exaggerated length of the clem 
 contributes to that feeling. For extra reference I'm 6'2 170 lbs and its a 
 59cm clem (also a liter of water on there).

 [image: IMG_5918.jpg]

 On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-4 James Valiensi wrote:

> Hi,
> I had our Clem converted to an Ebike with the Bafabg mid motor kit. 
> 750W system. We got the rack mounted battery. I did it for my 85 year old 
> dad, who only rides ebikes now. He found it too hard to get on and off 
> the 
> Clem and stuck with his small-wheeled ebike.
> I’ve ridden it several times.
> 1. The added weight does not affect the bike handling.
> 2. I generally pedal faster than the motor on 

[RBW] Re: FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13

[Michael Ullmer]

And sold

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my too 
> large for me size 13s.
>
> I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In 
> good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's a 
> faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are in 
> great shape.
>
> $100 shipped in USA
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13

[Michael Ullmer]

I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my too 
large for me size 13s.

I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In 
good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's a 
faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are in 
great shape.

$100 shipped in USA

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Michael]

Thanks for the input everyone! While I agree that building the bike would 
be much more rewarding and I am confident in my ability to learn, I also I 
want to make sure this bike reaches its full potential so think I am going 
to go ahead and let Riv build this one up.  I wasn't aware of their labor 
cost but from the sounds of it, it will probably be more economical having 
them do it anyway. Thanks again!!

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-4 mwill...@gmail.com wrote:

> I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section of 
> Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars 
> worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or 
> there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just 
> know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For 
> instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur 
> hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and 
> horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t.  If you choose not 
> to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They 
> would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed 
> chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once 
> about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they 
> seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some 
> videos, and did it myself. Turned out great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle 
> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike 
> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically 
> inclined. 
>
> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a 
> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been 
> wiser to just order it complete? 
>
> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something 
> stupid!
>
> Thanks,
>
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[RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear

[Michael Baquerizo]

rivendell has always suggest some sort of contact cement or glue to get the 
grips on there. the idea that i'd pay the premium price for cork only to 
have them be useless once off never sat well with me, so i've found that a 
mix of various tapes (cotton tape, tubeless rim tape) are perfect for 
making up the slight variance in OD / ID between the two. 

as for shellac, i vote clear. amber works if you're trying to change the 
color of something (like bar tape) but clear just adds a nice and classy 
sheen. the cork is already brown...any browner to me comes off as old 
fashioned instead of classy. 


On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:25:34 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for the pro tip before I go and mess up some raw cork grips.  Is 
> the move to do amber shellac or clear? Also, they spin on the bar and I 
> could of course put some hair spray in there but the aftermath of stuck 
> cork might suck... incase there is yet another pro tip.  appreciate it.
> Tommy
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Large Sackville and Nitto Noodles

[Michael Ullmer]

Noodles are sold as well.

On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 12:30:38 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Sackville is off to a new home.
>
> Noodles still available.
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 10:37:15 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Got two Rivy items I'm looking to pass on. Shipping is not included:
>>
>> 1) Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack Large Olive with Kangaroo Pouch - $175
>> -- Original version of the Large Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack with the 
>> Kangaroo Pouch. Great shape, I was saving this as a backup to the one I 
>> already have. This is the version that also has a cutout in the back to fit 
>> with a Nitto R-14 Rack. If you need an R-14, I can also include one for an 
>> additional $100.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Noodle 48cm Drop Bars - $60
>> --Some tape residue, but otherwise good shape.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XUhbRsYrjGzedxLU7
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Michael]

Hi all, 
Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle 
building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike 
before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically 
inclined. 

Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a 
beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been 
wiser to just order it complete? 

Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid!

Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: FS: Large Sackville and Nitto Noodles

[Michael Ullmer]

Sackville is off to a new home.

Noodles still available.

On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 10:37:15 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Got two Rivy items I'm looking to pass on. Shipping is not included:
>
> 1) Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack Large Olive with Kangaroo Pouch - $175
> -- Original version of the Large Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack with the 
> Kangaroo Pouch. Great shape, I was saving this as a backup to the one I 
> already have. This is the version that also has a cutout in the back to fit 
> with a Nitto R-14 Rack. If you need an R-14, I can also include one for an 
> additional $100.
>
> 2) Nitto Noodle 48cm Drop Bars - $60
> --Some tape residue, but otherwise good shape.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XUhbRsYrjGzedxLU7
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Large Sackville and Nitto Noodles

[Michael Ullmer]

Got two Rivy items I'm looking to pass on. Shipping is not included:

1) Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack Large Olive with Kangaroo Pouch - $175
-- Original version of the Large Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack with the 
Kangaroo Pouch. Great shape, I was saving this as a backup to the one I 
already have. This is the version that also has a cutout in the back to fit 
with a Nitto R-14 Rack. If you need an R-14, I can also include one for an 
additional $100.

2) Nitto Noodle 48cm Drop Bars - $60
--Some tape residue, but otherwise good shape.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XUhbRsYrjGzedxLU7

Mike in Minneapolis


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[RBW] Re: Is an Atlantis Worth It?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi! To answer your second question, no you cannot make an 80s bike into a 
Rivendell. I have an 80s Mountain Bike and an Appaloosa. The Appaloosa is 
great, and it fits me a lot better than the 80s mountain bike. The 80s 
mountain bike is 80% of a Rivendell, but it's that diminishing return, that 
difference that makes it a Rivendell. I commute on the Appaloosa and yes, 
it is overkill. It's heavy (Rivendell is the only bike company that doesn't 
publish what their frames weigh, AFAIK) and I'm slow but I like it anyway. 
Please consider what bike will fit you best. I wanted a 29er 80s mountain 
bike, and that is essentially what the Appaloosa is. I bought mine in 2016. 
Since then, there are a lot more options for "gravel" bikes and bikes that 
are similar to the Appaloosa. 

If you've got the money, go for it. If you're in NYC I'll let you take my 
Appaloosa for a ride to test it. 

M


On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 11:44:35 AM UTC-4 max.c@gmail.com wrote:

> First: I realize I am asking this to an entirely biased group of people 
> and I'm okay with that!
>
> For years I have casually dreamed of owning an Atlantis. I commute 4 miles 
> each way by bike, ditched my car a few years ago, and love riding, but I do 
> it pretty casually. I'm not racing or doing endurance rides. I just like 
> riding my bike and I do it whenever I can. 
>
> I don't need the nicest bike in the world and have been fairly satisfied 
> with my 1988 Schwinn Cimarron that I've made a fair approximation of a poor 
> man's rivendell (somewhat out of date pic below!). However, I've always had 
> the itch to upgrade.
>
> Recently, I received an unexpected influx of cash and want to spend it on 
> something fun. I'm wondering: how much will I noticeably appreciate the 
> difference an Atlantis would bring if I were to spend the money? I'm 
> especially interested in the input from those who have gone from the 80s 
> era rigid MTB with swept back bars that approximate a Riv (and Grant's 
> ethos from Bridgestone) to the real deal. Was it worth the money? Do you 
> think you could have gotten by on that 80s frame?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Max
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

[Michael Morrissey]

Very very cool! I especially like the flat blue on the Paul brakes! 





On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 11:43:11 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Finally. New. Bike. Day.
>
> This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November 
> (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts 
> to arrive.
>
> Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes with 
> most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors. 
>
> The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My 
> Little Platy. 
>
> The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be taken on 
> Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings cannot do. I put 
> fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel Platy.
>
> I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had rainbow 
> hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL the colors? 
> I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I had my 
> Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for grips, I 
> found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil slick 
> everywhere I could get it. 
>
> Because oil slick has ALL the colors.
>
> All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen. 
> They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild, 
> saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was 
> going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. You 
> can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket. 
> She understood the assignment. 
>
> I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of approval. 
> The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my adoration of 
> this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to my simple, 
> happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl (most of your 
> were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could choose from her 
> lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you just came out 
> WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.
>
> Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite 
> Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for making 
> this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to 
> Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.
>
> Please find my video link below.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=
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[RBW] Re: FS : Silver Bits, Black Bits, Riv Adjacent, Not so Rivvy -

[Michael Baquerizo]

UPDATES (based on words, still havent been paid for anything yet, but I 
also just sent out confirmation emails)
'

Nitto S65 27.2 $40

This post was purchased at a discount knowing i didn't need all of it to 
show. The first ~2.75" after the clamp portion is in good condition. 

Brooks Swift $SOLD

Hardly used, but has some shop wear in the form of a nick in the leather. 
Not broken in, despite my trying.

Campagnolo Record 10 Speed FD $40

White Industries Chain Rings 50 and 34. Just rings, no hardware. happy to 
split up

Big $90
Small $50

Gran Compe 610 Brakeset with Salmon pads $105

These are used, but hardly. Purchased from another list member. Didn't end 
up using them for a build 

MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals $20

Shimano PDA 530 Black or Silver $10 (but ideally would be purchased in 
conjunction with another item) (Note I have both pairs, not trying to sell 
these 'Panda Style'

Fairweather Nitto 1" Cable Hanger Front $SOLD

Nitto Cable Hanger Rear (Long) $SOLD

Nitto Noodle 44 $40

Axiom Streamliner Disc (works for both) DLX Rack $40 

This was mounted but never used - didn't work for my intended purpose. Has 
some superficial marks on the rack top.

Swift Industries Paloma XPAC Front Handlebar bag Coyote $70

Klickfix $20

Campagnolo Record 10 Speed Shifters $175
NOT pictured (https://www.ebay.com/itm/276454343094)

This is my auction 

On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 7:49:50 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> PM sent for the Fairweather Nitto 1" Cable Hanger Front 
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 12:53:58 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> All prices do not include shipping from 11372 (or local NYC pickup). I 
>> believe this is my first post of items for sale, Happy to receive money 
>> with buyer protection but the price still has to the amounts shown. That's 
>> math i'm happy for you to do. 
>>
>> see link for photos:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/75mXMevHbJDYbMyV9
>>
>> Feel free to reach out with any questions
>>
>> Nitto S65 27.2 $40
>>
>> This post was purchased at a discount knowing i didn't need all of it to 
>> show. The first ~2.75" after the clamp portion is in good condition. 
>>
>> Brooks Swift $50
>>
>> Hardly used, but has some shop wear in the form of a nick in the leather. 
>> Not broken in, despite my trying.
>>
>> Campagnolo Record 10 Speed FD $40
>>
>> White Industries Chain Rings 50 and 34. Just rings, no hardware. happy to 
>> split up
>>
>> Big $90
>> Small $50
>>
>> Gran Compe 610 Brakeset with Salmon pads $105
>>
>> These are used, but hardly. Purchased from another list member. Didn't 
>> end up using them for a build 
>>
>> MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals $20
>>
>> Shimano PDA 530 Black or Silver $10 (but ideally would be purchased in 
>> conjunction with another item) (Note I have both pairs, not trying to sell 
>> these 'Panda Style'
>>
>> Fairweather Nitto 1" Cable Hanger Front $35
>>
>> Nitto Cable Hanger Rear (Long) $20
>>
>> Nitto Noodle 44 $40
>>
>> Axiom Streamliner Disc (works for both) DLX Rack $40 
>>
>> This was mounted but never used - didn't work for my intended purpose. 
>> Has some superficial marks on the rack top.
>>
>> Swift Paloma XPAC Front Handlebar bag Coyote $70
>>
>> Klickfix $20
>>
>> Campagnolo Record 10 Speed Shifters $175
>> NOT pictured (https://www.ebay.com/itm/276454343094)
>>
>> This is my auction 
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS : Silver Bits, Black Bits, Riv Adjacent, Not so Rivvy -

[Michael Baquerizo]

All prices do not include shipping from 11372 (or local NYC pickup). I 
believe this is my first post of items for sale, Happy to receive money 
with buyer protection but the price still has to the amounts shown. That's 
math i'm happy for you to do. 

see link for photos:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/75mXMevHbJDYbMyV9

Feel free to reach out with any questions

Nitto S65 27.2 $40

This post was purchased at a discount knowing i didn't need all of it to 
show. The first ~2.75" after the clamp portion is in good condition. 

Brooks Swift $50

Hardly used, but has some shop wear in the form of a nick in the leather. 
Not broken in, despite my trying.

Campagnolo Record 10 Speed FD $40

White Industries Chain Rings 50 and 34. Just rings, no hardware. happy to 
split up

Big $90
Small $50

Gran Compe 610 Brakeset with Salmon pads $105

These are used, but hardly. Purchased from another list member. Didn't end 
up using them for a build 

MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals $20

Shimano PDA 530 Black or Silver $10 (but ideally would be purchased in 
conjunction with another item) (Note I have both pairs, not trying to sell 
these 'Panda Style'

Fairweather Nitto 1" Cable Hanger Front $35

Nitto Cable Hanger Rear (Long) $20

Nitto Noodle 44 $40

Axiom Streamliner Disc (works for both) DLX Rack $40 

This was mounted but never used - didn't work for my intended purpose. Has 
some superficial marks on the rack top.

Swift Paloma XPAC Front Handlebar bag Coyote $70

Klickfix $20

Campagnolo Record 10 Speed Shifters $175
NOT pictured (https://www.ebay.com/itm/276454343094)

This is my auction 

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Re: [RBW] A. Homer Hilsen Photo Thread

[Michael]

Beautiful Bike. What year? 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 11:43:22 AM UTC-4 David Hays wrote:

> My A Homer Hilsen on a ride today at Dann Lake.
>
>
> David Hays
> Buffalo, New York
>
> [image: A-Homer-Hilsen-at-Dann-Lake.jpg]
>
> On May 9, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
>
> best bike in the world!!!  the longer i ride it, the deeper my 
> conviction.  yours is lookin' great tim--so glad you joined the homer club!
>
> and as long as we're on the subject, i've been poring over the 2008 
> catalog that's currently available on the site for $1 (!) and would just 
> like to shout into the void that i would love to get my hands on one of 
> these homer caps.  or heck maybe enough of us aficionados could pool 
> resources and do a small custom run of the same design!  
>
> best bike in the world!!!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Michael Baquerizo]

Thanks Paul - the red is a custom color. I wanted something as similar to 
'Rad Red' that Richard Sachs was using a few years ago. There was supposed 
to be a hint of pink that didn't really come through, but i'm happy with it 
nonetheless. 

It was the result of buying a blem frame from Rivendell and deciding I was 
going to make it my own. I think it started it's life as an orange bike 
originally. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 9:31:26 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Michael, 
> I don't think I ever saw a red Hillborne. Quite stunning. A custom color 
> or maybe the red which was used on a select few Atlanti?
> I have a good friend who owns a couple of Bob Jacksons and a couple of 
> Rivendells. So, that will be a question (his preference between them) I 
> will have to pose to him.
> Paul
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 02:13:26 PM EDT, Michael Baquerizo <
> mbaqu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> my guy after an extremely long over due wash.
>
> i recently put together a bob jackson audax, trying to scratch the itch of 
> a rambouillet like frame. i hated it almost immediately and it made me 
> appreciate my Sam that much more. 
>
> Obviously missing a chain, missing a Campee rear rack as well. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_1284.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 1:31:49 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I would love to have both a fenderless Sam set up with RH knobbies (or 
> similar) and a fendered, rando-type build like mine. It's that good of a 
> bike that I want two :D 
>
> Mine, yesterday on a 100km chill pace, many stops ride with a few friends
>
> [image: PXL_20240520_165707807.jpg]
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 7:18 AM Pancake  wrote:
>
> That is one FINE looking Sam! 
> I miss it already but sure happy you’re giving it a nice rebuild and 
> really riding it!
> Abe 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I finally got around to snapping a photo of my 56cm 2TT Sam that I snagged 
> from Abe here on the group. Exploring some of the unfinished Beltline here 
> in Atlanta.
>
> Highlights include a Paul Racers/levers/moon units, a Son Edelux & Dynamo 
> wheel from Rich, Rene Herse 44cm Manastash Ridge , Marks/Campee Nitto 
> racks, Deore XT Rapid Rise, Silver Shifters and Lots of Blue Lug 
> adornments(Frame pad, safety triangle, chain guard). Also, some bags I 
> already had(and match stupidly well) from The Spindle 
> <https://www.thespindleatl.com/> here in ATL. The Saddle is a Green B17 
> Special, though it looks black here. 
>
> Absolutely loving this bike, and really happy to have found the biggest 
> straight top tube frame I can stand over(834mm).
>
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[RBW] Re: ORtlieb backroller panniers & carryon.

[Michael Morrissey]

I've brought 2 Ortliebs as luggage to Europe in 2019. There was no issue. 
Maybe bring a big pillowcase or plastic bags as backup (you could put the 
whole bag in a pillowcase) in case they give you trouble about the outside 
latches. Worst case scenario, they might have you check the bags. 

Go for it. 

M


On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 9:21:14 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

> Would any of you share your experience in using an Ortlieb backroller 
> panniers as airline  carry on luggage,.
>  
> That is of course without getting kicked out by TSA.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Bernard 
>  
>  
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[RBW] Surly Rear Rack? Silver? Black?

[Michael Baquerizo]

I have been putting together a kid bike out of a Clem L and mistakenly 
purchased a rear rack that's not compatible with my bike seat. 

I have decided that this rack is the best option for my use case and am 
trying to get a deal. I'm based in NYC and understand that shipping a rack 
can be cost prohibitive/ make it just as expensive as buying new.

Not super concerned with condition, just nothing that's ever been repaired. 
While silver is preferred, i can settle for black.

Anyone?

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[RBW] Re: Adventures in (Re) building my Saluki

[Michael Hechmer]

Well Bill, you are probably right but  I turn 80 this year and find 
that every day I have less and less urge to buy anything (excluding red 
meat & red wine).  Most of my tool budget, such as it it, goes into wood 
working tools.  This rebuild included only one new item - a brake cable.  I 
did decide to buy a new front rack but haven't actually done it.  Every 
time I buy something I ask myself three questions - Is this the last time 
I'll make this purchase, e.g. shoes, car, cassette...; where am I going to 
store this item when it's not in use but still findable if I want it;  how 
am I going to get rid of it, when I have to?

Alas, both of my children, despite being quite well off, are minamailist. 
 Small houses, small cars... so not interested in my stuff.

BTW,  About the same time I bought the Saluki frame, 20 years ago, from 
someone on this list, I also bought a blue Specialized Sequoia frame, also 
on this list, which my wife rode for many years until I bought her the last 
Betty Foy, which she now rides.  The Sequoia hung in the basement for a few 
years, then got converted to 650B and given to my son-in -law.  This year 
he bought his "dream bike" and gave the Sequoia to our grandson.  That's a 
pretty good run even for a steel frame.

Michael

On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:18:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Michael
>
> I'm not picking on you, but I strongly believe that anybody with the 
> mechanical confidence to build a bike from the frame up should own a proper 
> small tap-handle ($10), plus an M5x0.8mm tap ($5), an M6x1.0mm tap ($6), 
> and a M10x1.0mm tap ($8).  That tiny tool kit would have saved you two 
> trips and would get re-used innumerable times.  My recommendation to 
> anybody who puts wrenches on bicycles to go buy those items today.  There 
> are exactly three good reasons not to do that...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 5:50:41 PM UTC-7 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You may remember my previous post after retrieving my Saluki ( Serial 
>> #007) from the powder coating shop in White River Jct Vt.   I thought the 
>> rebuild would be simple and straight forward.  What could go wrong?!!
>>
>> First, I discovered that the threads in the BB shell needed to be 
>> re-chased.  This required 25 miles of driving (rt) to the Village Bicycle 
>> Shop in Richmond, Vt.  Home again things went well until I tried to. 
>> remount the rear fender.  Now realizing that all the eyelits also needed to 
>> be re-chased .  Another 25 miles of driving, only to discover  that a 
>> family emergency  had lead to an unscheduled closing.  Tried again the next 
>> day..  Along the way I recognized that the stem would not tighten down.  I 
>> figured out that the wedge shaped nut was disconnected from the long stem 
>> bolt, and jammed in the head tube..  This required removing the stem, HB, 
>> brakes,  fenders and fork in order drive the now deformed nut out of the 
>> head tube.  Had another in my spare parts bin.   OK.  Now with everything 
>> (almost) tightened down, I set out on a shakedown  ride. 
>>
>> What a joy!  I didn't buy any new parts for this rebuild but am still 
>> leaning toward a new front rack.  Contrary to GPs opinions I really 
>> appreciate hi end Paul's breaks, TA rings, and Campy derailleurs and smooth 
>> shifting..  I rode along grooving on the sweet, neutral handling of the 
>> Saluki; the easy & comfy rolling of the PariMoto 45 mm tires.  No break 
>> squeak from my Pauls Neo Retros.  Then, about 6 miles from home all hell 
>> broke loose! 
>>
>> Actually what broke was one tiny bolt holding the rear deraileur cage 
>> together.  That left me  without a pulley or functioning rear derailer. 
>>  Fortunately I was uphill from home so could coast  half the way home, 
>> where I discovered the remaining half of the deraileur (Campy Centaur) was 
>> wedged  between cogs in the cassette.  It turned out I had another Campy 
>> Centaur deraileur to use. Yea.
>>
>> To deliver the coup, either in the process of wedging itself or my effort 
>> to free the derairller managed to damage the threads in the dropout and 
>> neither derailleur would rethread into the frame..  Another trip to a bike 
>> shop.
>>
>> It turned out that the replacement derailleur also had a broken part, 
>> which is probably why it was in a box of random parts.  After some some 
>> despair, (and a drink) I found a way to combine the two broken derailleurs 
>> into one functioning part!
>>
>> Tomorrow will try another ride.  It looks good.
>>
>> Some pics: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oGGXqixGEaeNt
>>
>> I guess we all ha

[RBW] Adventures in (Re) building my Saluki

[Michael Hechmer]

You may remember my previous post after retrieving my Saluki ( Serial #007) 
from the powder coating shop in White River Jct Vt.   I thought the rebuild 
would be simple and straight forward.  What could go wrong?!!

First, I discovered that the threads in the BB shell needed to be 
re-chased.  This required 25 miles of driving (rt) to the Village Bicycle 
Shop in Richmond, Vt.  Home again things went well until I tried to. 
remount the rear fender.  Now realizing that all the eyelits also needed to 
be re-chased .  Another 25 miles of driving, only to discover  that a 
family emergency  had lead to an unscheduled closing.  Tried again the next 
day..  Along the way I recognized that the stem would not tighten down.  I 
figured out that the wedge shaped nut was disconnected from the long stem 
bolt, and jammed in the head tube..  This required removing the stem, HB, 
brakes,  fenders and fork in order drive the now deformed nut out of the 
head tube.  Had another in my spare parts bin.   OK.  Now with everything 
(almost) tightened down, I set out on a shakedown  ride. 

What a joy!  I didn't buy any new parts for this rebuild but am still 
leaning toward a new front rack.  Contrary to GPs opinions I really 
appreciate hi end Paul's breaks, TA rings, and Campy derailleurs and smooth 
shifting..  I rode along grooving on the sweet, neutral handling of the 
Saluki; the easy & comfy rolling of the PariMoto 45 mm tires.  No break 
squeak from my Pauls Neo Retros.  Then, about 6 miles from home all hell 
broke loose! 

Actually what broke was one tiny bolt holding the rear deraileur cage 
together.  That left me  without a pulley or functioning rear derailer. 
 Fortunately I was uphill from home so could coast  half the way home, 
where I discovered the remaining half of the deraileur (Campy Centaur) was 
wedged  between cogs in the cassette.  It turned out I had another Campy 
Centaur deraileur to use. Yea.

To deliver the coup, either in the process of wedging itself or my effort 
to free the derairller managed to damage the threads in the dropout and 
neither derailleur would rethread into the frame..  Another trip to a bike 
shop.

It turned out that the replacement derailleur also had a broken part, which 
is probably why it was in a box of random parts.  After some some despair, 
(and a drink) I found a way to combine the two broken derailleurs into one 
functioning part!

Tomorrow will try another ride.  It looks good.

Some pics: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oGGXqixGEaeNt

I guess we all have days/weeks like this.
Michael

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Michael]

57 Green here

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

>
> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll 
> consider letting it go. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

[Michael]

Thank you for the response! Thinking the 57 should work for me. Enjoy your 
Clem!

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Michael
>
> If it helps, I had a 60cm (double top tube) Sam, and sold it because I 
> thought it was just a bit big *for my* 89cm pbh. While I regret selling 
> now, I know I'd have preferred the then optional 58cm Sam. 
>
> Now that I'm riding more off-road, and appreciate the clearance, I'd 
> likely go for the 57cm size (and am so tempted to, if I wasn't just 
> finishing building a Clem L). 
>
> The new Sams are so nice. Enjoy!
>
> - Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:28:30 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
>
>> New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
>> albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
>> and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
>> Thank you! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

[Michael]

New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
Thank you! 

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[RBW] Re: Electric Air Pump recommendations

[Michael Morrissey]

I have one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/EPAuto-Portable-Compressor-Digital-Inflator/dp/B01L9WSTEG?th=1

along with one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Zeiboat-Presta-Compressor-Replacement-Silver/dp/B0BN152D7V/ref=sr_1_9?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f2oWbO6ELah2uWz9I_fPhta6if5zkQAI8GiE_cXFNX28gXbR-xu4oUfYkjdvNmYDerbl2ERBZ5-P77bFxJzI2V2fkZzD-Ggk-tzz-Vlv5J9tIakptrR-D9z7DN4pjRyXgVB06dMnbA_CIZJPpZXrMOLcNxuiwTq1yax5Z3Zdow_j1wIVbbF9N9BRbFBPzCncx07ldZA0AB6z7acGpvSd_vzu7lRuYZtT5kHSHpujsPl79b_GwR4svFW7g1vzPMMG2g5Q83Vj-hoFLhj1NbT1PLMGQszytG4H8hMrb6YwFn0.dCOgn1phNDrt8ybH2ag2WaJQtEKJPb2ovheQdaE4984_tag=se=silca+chuck+presta=1715706482=8-9

Works great and cheap. Plus you can set the air pressure to a precise PSI 
and the air pump stops.

M


On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Electric air pumps for what use-case?  Is she carrying this pump with her 
> on her rides to pump up the tire after she fixes a flat road-side?  -OR- is 
> this pump replacing a proper floor pump for inflating the tires pre-ride? 
>  For the former use-case, I have no recs.  For the latter, I think the 
> standard recommendation is a Harbor Freight compressor.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 7:36:38 AM UTC-7 Addison wrote:
>
>> My mom, who is still rocking her Riv AR at the age of 78, was asking me 
>> about electric air pumps for her tires.  Her arthritis makes a regular pump 
>> hard at this point.  I don't have any experience with electric pumps so I 
>> thought I'd reach out to the collective wisdom here.  She mentioned she was 
>> looking at an "expensive" Bosch but that's about all I know.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> Addison
>> Reno
>>
>> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>>
>> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>>  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Riv-rafting

[Michael Morrissey]

That looks incredible. More pictures and details please! It's the exact 
opposite of my normal bike rides (urban NYC).

M
 

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 9:52:37 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> I’ve got a slow-developing project to create a bike raft out of a $40 
> “inflatable camp lounger”. If I can raft 30 feet across an irrigation 
> ditch, I can swap gravel country roads for 12 miles of commuting alongside 
> interstate 80. I’ll let you know if it works.
> -Wes
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:11 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Got it; again, sounds very interesting. I see that Alpacka boats retail 
>> basically for the price of an entry-level Clem.
>>
>> I should probably buy an entry level Clem first, though.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 4:27 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Patrick. No trailer needed as, you guessed it, the raft rolls into 
>>> a tidy little 5lb burrito and fits very nicely on the rack. In addition to 
>>> the photos of the raft with the bike, I should have taken a photo of the 
>>> bike with the raft on it!
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:05:53 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 That looks very tempting. I can't make out a trailer; does the boat 
 fold up small enought to be carried on a rack?

 I'm 1/4 mile crow-directly west through bosque scrub from the Rio 
 Grande and it's an easy and pleasant ride north on a paved recreation 
 trail 
 to various possible insertion points. In fact, my next door neighbors have 
 a couple of inflatable canoes which they generally drive north to entry 
 points, float back south, then drive the other car to pick up the first 
 one; tho' husband Chris some years ago did drive north, float south, then 
 rode his bike back north to get his car.

 On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Hey Sue, 
>
> I haven't tried my boat without a bike yet, but I did paddle one a few 
> years back *sans bicyclette *and I remember it being like any other 
> raft without a keel- kind of squirreley. 
> With the bike, however, it handles very nicely indeed. Alpacka makes 
> other such rafts for use without a bicycle, and I imagine these track 
> much 
> better. 
>
> Yes, the bicycle is attached at 4 lashing points with Voile-type 
> straps, and the wheels with bungee cords. It's all very solid and stable. 
> If there was a chance that my bike would end up at the bottom of the 
> river, 
> I'd think twice. 
>
> Maybe this photo shows it a bit better:
> [image: IMG_3267 (1).jpeg]
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 8:13:40 AM UTC-7 Sue J wrote:
>
>> John, I am curious to know how this craft behaves if there is no bike 
>> in the bow. Did you give that a try?
>> Also, do you secure the bike in the bow, or if you capsize would it 
>> sink to the bottom of the waterway?
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:19:46 AM UTC-7 Curtis wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a great adventure.  Enjoy.
>>>
>>> Curtis
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2024, 7:18 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>>>
 After several months in a box, I finally took my pack raft for its 
 maiden voyage down the Salt River. 
 [image: IMG_3282.jpeg]
 I rode 20k out to the put-in, and in about 30 minutes was ready to 
 shove off. The Alpacka raft is a fine design that has exceeded my 
 expectations for comfort, stability, and maneuverability. My tall bike 
 and 
 body fit just fine. It's a super fun boat!
 [image: IMG_3271.jpeg]
 If you love riding and rivers, this is the way to go!

 [image: IMG_3308.jpeg]
 Cheers, John

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[RBW] Re: Snake-in-a-bike

[Michael Morrissey]

That is very cool and unusual! 

On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 1:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Wow! Very vivid snake. Amazed it got in and out without injury. Awesome 
> photos. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 9:29:45 AM UTC-6 RichS wrote:
>
>> Good story Allan! Grant would appreciate this. He occasionally posts 
>> snake pictures in his BLAHG.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 9:36:41 AM UTC-4 Allan McLane wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a tale from the “Well, I never thought I’d see that” department… 
>>>
>>> This afternoon I was out on the Yvez Gomez, exercising the dog, when we 
>>> encountered a smooth green snake (Opheodrys vernalis), sunning itself in 
>>> the middle of the road. I stopped next to the snake to maneuver it to the 
>>> side but it decided to climb up my back wheel spokes and inspect the 
>>> interior of the cassette instead. After several failed attempts to nudge it 
>>> along, it exited the cassette, went forward along the chainstay, and 
>>> completely entered the fender, going up. 
>>>
>>> To extract it from the inside of the fender I slowly rolled the bike 
>>> backwards until the snake popped out the rear and onto the ground. At this 
>>> point it had gotten the message well and slithered off into the stone wall. 
>>>
>>> For the curious, full photo documentation here:
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBpqQB
>>> 
>>>
>>> Allan in Marlboro, Vt
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

Post is gone now too, thanks all!

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 7:15:38 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> White Industries cranks are gone.
>
> Any takers on the Nitto Lugged Seatpost for $100 plus shipping?
>
> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Last bump before these go to Ebay:
>>
>> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
>> $135
>>
>> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $105
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:52:13 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and price drop:
>>>
>>> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring 
>>> - $140
>>>
>>> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $110
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I've been looking at a Stronglight Delta and not having seen one 
>>>> on a bike or in person I'm a little worried it may be the worst looking 
>>>> headset around
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:11:05 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561
>>>>>
>>>>> It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the 
>>>>> handling too much either. Not as pretty though
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing 
>>>>>> from the parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say 
>>>>>> nice and I'd also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that 
>>>>>> qualification
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Snake-in-a-bike

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Great images! Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 6:36 AM, Allan McLane  wrote:Here's a tale from the “Well, I never thought I’d see that” department… This afternoon I was out on the Yvez Gomez, exercising the dog, when we encountered a smooth green snake (Opheodrys vernalis), sunning itself in the middle of the road. I stopped next to the snake to maneuver it to the side but it decided to climb up my back wheel spokes and inspect the interior of the cassette instead. After several failed attempts to nudge it along, it exited the cassette, went forward along the chainstay, and completely entered the fender, going up. To extract it from the inside of the fender I slowly rolled the bike backwards until the snake popped out the rear and onto the ground. At this point it had gotten the message well and slithered off into the stone wall. For the curious, full photo documentation here:https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBpqQBAllan in Marlboro, Vt



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[RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

[Michael Morrissey]

What motorcycle are you going to buy?



On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:16:12 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Oh Joe...you waited so long for that bike. I do hope you don't regret 
> selling it. I'm sure it'll make someone happy. ...hmm might be a good bike 
> for Leah...54 cm MIGHT work for her
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 12:35:51 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> $5k + shipping 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 10:25:24 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Divorce from reality forces sale, I've convinced myself I want a 
>>> motorcycle again. Details and geometry in Craigslist ad, I need to take new 
>>> pics with current drivetrain, will post that album soon. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/clearlake-park-rivendell-custom-54cm/7744497816.html
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> joeremi62 gmail com
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Mike!

What did you think of the Five Boro Bike Tour? Did you have fun? 

This was my first time on the ride and I had a great time. For me, I’ve 
biked a lot in NYC and a lot of the streets are very familiar. But, I would 
highly recommend it to anyone visiting New York! We did the ride with 
plenty of stops and at a slow pace, finishing in 5 hours.

I was there on my Appaloosa and saw a few other Rivendells: 
Pretty sure I saw a blue Rambouillet first thing in the morning in wave 1.
Pretty sure I saw an Atlantis first thing in the morning in wave 1.
Was passed by a woman on a grey Clem Smith! 
Saw a Bleriot at the finish fest!

Unfortunately it was way too crowded and I was too busy hanging out with my 
wife that I didn’t get to say hi to any Rivendell owners. 

I loved that it was a mix of people and bikes. I saw a few people riding 
department store bikes like Huffys and Nexts but also Moots and Gary 
Fishers. I didn’t take any pictures because I was too busy enjoying the 
ride and trying to stay warm (I underestimated how cold and rainy it would 
be).

Michael

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 2:36:58 AM UTC-4 bcu...@cullensfoods.com wrote:

> Pam you made riding from the airport sound so simple, I had to streetview 
> it. Now I have to try it! 
>
> The tour is on my bucket list as well. 
>
> Ben from Guelph
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:18:47 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>>
>> NYC is great to ride.  I just got back from being there 9 days.  Here are 
>> my routes <https://ridewithgps.com/collections/2372121>.  I flew into 
>> LGA and unboxed my bike in baggage claim and rode from there.  Exit 
>> Terminal B and turn L down the sidewalk towards the parking deck and then 
>> cross the street to 96th.  I rode through Queens across the Queensborogh 
>> Bridge to Manhattan.  I didn't go to the Bronx or Staten Island but I rode 
>> the other 3 boroughs solo.  Have a blast!   Photo is at Central Park.  
>> [image: 
>> centralpark1.jpg]
>> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:48:54 AM UTC-4 Brady Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I used to live in Fort Lee, and it was the prospect of commuting across 
>>> the GWB down to Chelsea and back each day that got me into cycling. 
>>>
>>> We moved to Utah mid-pandemic and went back to NYC for the first time 
>>> last week. I rented a road bike from Bicycle Habitat and did the classic 
>>> Bear Mountain route. It was all great, but I'd forgotten how much I loved 
>>> exploring Manhattan on a bike. I never did the Five Boro tour, but it looks 
>>> like a blast. 
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Brady in SLC
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 11:51:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed 
>>>> an extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
>>>> colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
>>>> be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
>>>> Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben Weiss: 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>>>>
>>>> Say hi if you see us! 
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and 
>>>>> I decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
>>>>> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
>>>>> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
>>>>> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
>>>>> won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
>>>>> there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
>>>>> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations 
>>>>> on where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

White Industries cranks are gone.

Any takers on the Nitto Lugged Seatpost for $100 plus shipping?

On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Last bump before these go to Ebay:
>
> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
> $135
>
> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $105
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:52:13 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and price drop:
>>
>> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
>> $140
>>
>> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $110
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I've been looking at a Stronglight Delta and not having seen one 
>>> on a bike or in person I'm a little worried it may be the worst looking 
>>> headset around
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:11:05 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561
>>>>
>>>> It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the 
>>>> handling too much either. Not as pretty though
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing from 
>>>>> the parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say nice 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> I'd also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that qualification
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

Last bump before these go to Ebay:

2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
$135

4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $105

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:52:13 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump and price drop:
>
> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
> $140
>
> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $110
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I've been looking at a Stronglight Delta and not having seen one on 
>> a bike or in person I'm a little worried it may be the worst looking 
>> headset around
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:11:05 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561
>>>
>>> It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the 
>>> handling too much either. Not as pretty though
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>>
>>>> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing from 
>>>> the parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say nice 
>>>> and 
>>>> I'd also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that qualification
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and price drop:

2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
$140

4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $110

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:

> Yeah, I've been looking at a Stronglight Delta and not having seen one on 
> a bike or in person I'm a little worried it may be the worst looking 
> headset around
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:11:05 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561
>>
>> It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the handling 
>> too much either. Not as pretty though
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>
>>> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing from 
>>> the parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say nice and 
>>> I'd also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that qualification
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561

It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the handling 
too much either. Not as pretty though

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:

> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing from the 
> parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say nice and I'd 
> also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that qualification
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

Buyer backed out for WI Cranks, they're back on the market along with the 
Nitto SP

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> King HS is sold and WI Cranks and Outershell Camera strap are pending. 
> Only the Lugged Seatpost remains. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 10:29:45 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> A couple more items for sale, prices don't include shipping.
>>
>> 1) Chris King 1" Threaded 2nut Headset - $135
>> --This was on my Rando Fitz, but I ended up using a needle bearing 
>> headset to calm some shimmying.
>>
>> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
>> $150
>> --Arms show some wear. Would also trade the arms for a set of 175mm ENO 
>> Crankarms.I have a BB-un72 122mm bottom bracket I can include as well.
>>
>> 3) Outershell Adventure Camera Strap - $25
>> I bought this new a few years ago, but no longer have a camera
>>
>> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $120
>> --Was saving this for a future Riv build, but need to free up some bike 
>> funds.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NRNsL7bvWyWkrte97
>>
>> Will ship with Pirateship.
>>
>> PM off-list. 
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

King HS is sold and WI Cranks and Outershell Camera strap are pending. Only 
the Lugged Seatpost remains. 

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 10:29:45 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> A couple more items for sale, prices don't include shipping.
>
> 1) Chris King 1" Threaded 2nut Headset - $135
> --This was on my Rando Fitz, but I ended up using a needle bearing headset 
> to calm some shimmying.
>
> 2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
> $150
> --Arms show some wear. Would also trade the arms for a set of 175mm ENO 
> Crankarms.I have a BB-un72 122mm bottom bracket I can include as well.
>
> 3) Outershell Adventure Camera Strap - $25
> I bought this new a few years ago, but no longer have a camera
>
> 4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $120
> --Was saving this for a future Riv build, but need to free up some bike 
> funds.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NRNsL7bvWyWkrte97
>
> Will ship with Pirateship.
>
> PM off-list. 
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

[Michael]

Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike paths/paved/gravel/dirt 
roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. Will suggest the Sam 
Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I would build it with drops 
for the long rides but I recently fell in love with albatross bars for 
upright lazy bike path rides. 
Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
inevitable? 
Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a good 
combo or is that too much overlap? 

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[RBW] FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

A couple more items for sale, prices don't include shipping.

1) Chris King 1" Threaded 2nut Headset - $135
--This was on my Rando Fitz, but I ended up using a needle bearing headset 
to calm some shimmying.

2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
$150
--Arms show some wear. Would also trade the arms for a set of 175mm ENO 
Crankarms.I have a BB-un72 122mm bottom bracket I can include as well.

3) Outershell Adventure Camera Strap - $25
I bought this new a few years ago, but no longer have a camera

4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $120
--Was saving this for a future Riv build, but need to free up some bike 
funds.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NRNsL7bvWyWkrte97

Will ship with Pirateship.

PM off-list. 

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: Bilenkey Tandem 4 Sale

[Michael Hechmer]

I'm not sure how to answer your three questions.  I am 6'+ and set my 
saddle at 81cm  above the BB.  Does that help?  The stoker stem telescopes 
over a pretty wide range and I don't currently have saddles on the bike. 
 The stoker top tube is 760mm; my wife is 5'6"  and switched out of drop 
bars a few years ago to the albatross bars.  Anything else you would like 
to know?
Michael

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4 fl...@duck.com wrote:

> How tall and what inseam was the captain.
> And what 8is the cockpit length for the stoker position (tip of stoker 
> saddle to centre of bars at shoulder width?
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:35:07 AM UTC-6 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> *The Basics:*
>>
>>- Custom, Large, Coupled, Touring Tandem
>>- Brazed Steel, Powder Coated English Racing Green
>>- Dimensions:
>>   - Head Tube - 10.5” / 26.5 C
>>   - Top Tubes - 22.5/57 & 30.5/77.5
>>   - Seat Tubes - 22.75 / 58  & 17.75/45.5
>>- Wheels - White Ind. Hubs & DaVinci V22 Rims  26” with 36 spokes
>>- Crank - DaVinci with TA Zypher rings; 48/38/26
>>- Casette 9 speed - Shimano Ultegra 12 -32
>>- Deraillers - IRD Alpina & Shimano Ultegra
>>- Shifters - Shimano Bar End Indexed/Friction
>>- Brakes - Paul’s Neo-Retro with Tectro Levers, braise-ons for drum 
>>brake
>>- Head Set - Chris King, Stem - Nitto
>>- Bars - Nitto Noodle & Nitto Albatross
>>- Seat Posts Nitto & Cane Creek Thudbuster
>>- Tires Panaracer
>>- Chains - Connex
>>- Kick Stand - Two legs
>>- Front & Rear Touring Racks - Nitto, powder coated to match the 
>>frame.
>>- Fenders - Velo Orange 
>>- Saddle & Pedals not included
>>
>>
>> *Also Available*
>>
>>- Two Hard Shell Suitcases
>>- Yakima Sidewinder car top carrier
>>
>>
>> *The Pictures*
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oG7HOIlGKhAR1
>>
>>
>> *The Performance:*
>>
>> This is a large touring tandem built for strength and stability under 
>> weight.  It rides beautifully with or without load and is comfortable on 
>> both dirt and paved surfaces  It is outfitted with top flight equipment 
>> that will not fail you.  The rear top tube is quite long which affords the 
>> stoker a more spacious cockpit.  The stays are long enough to accomodate 
>> large paniers without interfering with the stoker’s heels.  The design 
>> point was for 2”tires with fenders but currently fitted with 1.75 (1.5 
>> actual) tires, which is all we could get the last time we replaced them.  
>> The cranks have three pedal drillings to accomodate a range of leg lengths.
>>
>>
>> *The Deal:*
>>
>> $2500 picked up at our home in Westford, VT.  or shipped at cost
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>

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[RBW] Bilenkey Tandem 4 Sale

[Michael Hechmer]

*The Basics:*

   - Custom, Large, Coupled, Touring Tandem
   - Brazed Steel, Powder Coated English Racing Green
   - Dimensions:
  - Head Tube - 10.5” / 26.5 C
  - Top Tubes - 22.5/57 & 30.5/77.5
  - Seat Tubes - 22.75 / 58  & 17.75/45.5
   - Wheels - White Ind. Hubs & DaVinci V22 Rims  26” with 36 spokes
   - Crank - DaVinci with TA Zypher rings; 48/38/26
   - Casette 9 speed - Shimano Ultegra 12 -32
   - Deraillers - IRD Alpina & Shimano Ultegra
   - Shifters - Shimano Bar End Indexed/Friction
   - Brakes - Paul’s Neo-Retro with Tectro Levers, braise-ons for drum brake
   - Head Set - Chris King, Stem - Nitto
   - Bars - Nitto Noodle & Nitto Albatross
   - Seat Posts Nitto & Cane Creek Thudbuster
   - Tires Panaracer
   - Chains - Connex
   - Kick Stand - Two legs
   - Front & Rear Touring Racks - Nitto, powder coated to match the frame.
   - Fenders - Velo Orange 
   - Saddle & Pedals not included


*Also Available*

   - Two Hard Shell Suitcases
   - Yakima Sidewinder car top carrier


*The Pictures*

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oG7HOIlGKhAR1


*The Performance:*

This is a large touring tandem built for strength and stability under 
weight.  It rides beautifully with or without load and is comfortable on 
both dirt and paved surfaces  It is outfitted with top flight equipment 
that will not fail you.  The rear top tube is quite long which affords the 
stoker a more spacious cockpit.  The stays are long enough to accomodate 
large paniers without interfering with the stoker’s heels.  The design 
point was for 2”tires with fenders but currently fitted with 1.75 (1.5 
actual) tires, which is all we could get the last time we replaced them.  
The cranks have three pedal drillings to accomodate a range of leg lengths.


*The Deal:*

$2500 picked up at our home in Westford, VT.  or shipped at cost


Michael

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very interesting indeed. About a year after Rivendell built up my orange 60cm Appaloosa, I was on a “Bike Around the Buttes” ride in Northern California and my seat post began gradually slipping down. I tightened it a bit more at a mid-ride rest stop, and it broke in two…. without much torque at all. I was amazed…..Luckily, I was able to “borrow” a less essential but same size bolt from my pannier rack, and everything has been fine the last few years. Is it possible that Rivendell received a bad batch of bolts? Odd….Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 16, 2024, at 9:10 PM, Diana H  wrote:I also snapped the seat binder bolt on my new Platypus. No amount of tightening would keep my post from sliding. I posted about this on Reddit and somebody told me that I needed to grease the threads. When I tried to remove the bolt it snapped. I replaced with a random bolt from a hardware store and used grease. Hasn't slipped again.On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 8:50:54 AM UTC-7 Greg Kagay wrote:My greased Roadini binder failed almost immediately with very little torque applied. Seems it was slightly too short for the job. Replaced with this bolt and this nut. The new bolt is ever so slightly long for the application but it works great. The blackish nut is not my preference but I live in the country and was eager to source a robust solution. (And not much of it shows as most of it is hidden inside the seat lug.) Delivered, this was a $30 resolution (which makes me feel foolish); Rivendell could do so much better here.On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:20:01 AM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:I have never snapped a binder bolt but FWIW when I had some slipping on my Atlantis post, my LBS spun the inside of the seat tube with a flex hone attachment on their drill and that helped a lot. mike in atx On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:08:28 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:I have a bad habit of snapping the original binder bolt when making adjustments for fit. I just keep a bunch spares around and stash one with the tools/spare tube for when I ride.--Ed C.Redondo Beach, CAOn Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:53:22 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Joseph -Thank-you. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:@Joseph -I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?Kim Hetzel.On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:@Joseph -Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.Kim Hetzel.On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. Joe Bernard On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. Stronger but no galling..On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Danny -Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. Kim HetzelOn Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.This is from a Riv newsletter last year:Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not tighten down enough unless they're greased up.-DannyOn Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 



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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi,

My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben 
Weiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A

Say hi if you see us! 

Michael


On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>
> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I won't 
> be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be there for 
> a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>
> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>
> Mike M
>

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Michael Morrissey]

I ride an Appaloosa but if I had to pick another Rivendell I would just 
call it a day and buy a Clem. 

In the car world, people joke that Miata is always the answer, and I feel 
here a Clem is always the answer. 

On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-4 Bud Suttree wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Been enjoying these forums for a while now, with my first post I’d like to 
> lean on the immense collective wisdom here and get some help with picking 
> out the right Rivendell model. I’ve done quite a lot of personal research 
> and spoken to Riv at least once but would like to open things up to the 
> group for general discussion. 
>
>
> Short sketch of my problem: I love bicycles, but haven’t enjoyed riding 
> them in a long time. I have quite a few, and they all are unpleasant to 
> ride for one reason or another. My priorities are, in descending order: 
> comfort, performance (perceived), utility, price/aesthetics (tie), 
> performance (actual), and at the end would be the ability to do any 
> outer-boundary/end-of-spectrum type activity, riding across the country or 
> racing crits, etc. My ideal bike would be something that could ride 15-20 
> miles to the trail and then 10-15 more on the trail. And also manage 
> chipotle, beer, and post office runs. 
>
>
> Every time I browse the Riv offerings I become convinced I need a 
> different model. I’m thinking maybe the Atlantis would suit me, but I don’t 
> necessarily love the double top tube, and I’d probably be between the 57 
> and 59. The Appaloosa seems pretty similar, but I’m not crazy about either 
> of the current colors. Can’t say I can tell the difference between that one 
> and the Sam, but I like the Sam aesthetic better. I’m also tempted by the 
> gold Susie/Wolbis, but since I’ll be riding mostly around town, worry that 
> it might not feel as agile as the bikes I’m use to riding do.
>
>
> That’s the short version — would welcome any takes or opinions. 
>
>
> Longer story:
>
>
> Like the rest of you, I love bicycles. A substantial amount of my 
> attention is given to them, day after day, in one way or another. 
> Unfortunately, lately this has not translated into actually riding them 
> very often. It’s a paradoxical state, induced by having too many (project) 
> bikes, none of which I can tolerate to ride for more than half an hour. 
> It’s mostly a comfort issue. FWIW, I am a not unhealthy late 20something 
> male with probably poorish posture from desk-jockeying. I rode an aluminum 
> Cannondale road bike daily for five years, crashed, broke some bones and 
> swore it off for two, then entered this present cycle. 
>
>
> Economic realities necessitate the need to flip bikes and parts to fund 
> the passion. Maybe you think that’s a dirty trade; most are. I’ve had the 
> good fortune to pick up an outrageously rare old school BMX bike for 
> essentially nothing that should cover a very nice Rivendell build, and 
> hopefully obviate the need to engage in as much cycling commerce. 
>
>
> Along the way, I’ve acquired an interesting stable:
>
>- 93 Bridgestone RB-1 and MB-2 
>- Custom 90s Ciocc w/ Columbus EL and Chorus 
>- 93ish lugged Trek 990 
>- 1985 Trek 620 
>
> and a cache of interesting parts, so it’s not been for nothing, but I 
> don’t like riding any of those bikes. Had (still have?) big dreams for the 
> RB-1, but cannot tolerate the reach. Have tried a bunch of stem/saddle 
> options, no luck. Currently building it up w/ a Soma Highway bar and zero 
> setback post, preliminary fit check not promising. Found a crack in the 
> MB’s fork when I was tearing it down and don’t think I want to invest in it 
> without the biplane fork. The Ciocc’s max tire clearance for Corsas is 23 
> rear/25 front. The 990 might be all right, and the 620 too, but both need a 
> ton of work. 
>
>
> I’m tired of projects. Wrenching is fun but riding is better, and it was 
> never my goal to be a collector of anything. So, instead of trying to make 
> all these old bikes “like” the bike that I want, I’m just going to actually 
> go and get what I want and then be done with it for awhile. 
>
>
> Some considerations: 
>
>
> I miss running errands on my bike. I don’t have as much free time as I’d 
> like, but everyone has to go to the grocery store. I also miss long weekend 
> adventure rides and casual group rides. I WFH, so don’t need an actual 
> commuter. I like the idea of an overnight trip, and have most of the gear 
> I’d need to do it. 
>
>
> I have two really great handlebar options: the Soma Highway Ones and Ron’s 
> Orthos. I’ve never spent much of any time on bars that weren’t drops, but 
> think I’m leaning towards the orthos for this project. That said, it would 
> be cool if I could use both. 
>
>
> I want lots of gears. Live in a somewhat hilly town (Nashville) with steep 
> climbs on most of my routes. Getting nearly anywhere usually requires at 
> least some riding on busy streets w/o cycling lanes. 
>
>
> No local Riv dealer 

[RBW] Re: Selling Betty Foy and Ives Gomez

[Michael Baquerizo]

can i ask how tall you are / your PBH? That Yves looks as low as it could 
go, wondering if it would work for me.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 2:41:28 PM UTC-4 wpes...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: IMG_0268.jpeg]Betty found a new home but my Ives Gomez is still 
> available. It’s on a 60 cm frame with top of the line component upgrades 
> including White Industry hubs and bottom bracket, Pal center pull brakes, 
> Bull Moose handle bar, Shimano Ultegra Derailleurs, Nitto front and rear 
> racks. The bike is in very good condition with only minor wear marks. I 
> also have a new spare rim which comes with the bike. If interested please 
> send me a note for more pics and details. 
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 11:37:16 AM UTC-5 walter peseckas wrote:
>
>> I am selling both bikes which we purchased in 2013. We hate to sell but 
>> in our age biking is no longer possible. The 60 cm Ives Gomez has top of 
>> the line components upgrades including White Industries hubs and bottom 
>> bracket, Paul center pull brakes, Nitto front and rear racks, Bull Moose 
>> handle bar, Shimano Ultegra Derailleurs. The bike is in very good condition 
>> with only very minor paint scratches. The 55cm Betty Foy is in superb as 
>> new condition with a spare set of fenders. If anyone is interested please 
>> let me know. I can send pictures. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

And the Fitz is sold and headed to a new home in CO

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 8:44:42 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I loved it too and if it was about 2cm bigger in both ST and TT I'd be 
> keeping it :-)
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 4:23:08 PM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I love this bike and just cannot fathom why it hasn't sold. Handmade 
>> frame, light tubing and disc brakes are a hard combination to find. Anyone 
>> on the fence should not hesitate. 
>>
>>
>> IanA (being careful not to take his own advice) in Kitimat BC.
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:19:19 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Weekend bump with a couple sale options:
>>>
>>> $1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
>>> $1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
>>> $1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>>>>
>>>> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>>>>
>>>> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>>>>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey <
>>>>> michaelg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>>>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing 
>>>>>>>>>> is 135mm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael 
>>>>>>>>>> Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along 
>>>>>>>>>>> this frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the fam 
>>>>>>>>>>> down to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be 
>>>>>>>>>>> replaced 
>>>>>>>>>>> with a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> bought t

Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

I loved it too and if it was about 2cm bigger in both ST and TT I'd be 
keeping it :-)

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 4:23:08 PM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:

> I love this bike and just cannot fathom why it hasn't sold. Handmade 
> frame, light tubing and disc brakes are a hard combination to find. Anyone 
> on the fence should not hesitate. 
>
>
> IanA (being careful not to take his own advice) in Kitimat BC.
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:19:19 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Weekend bump with a couple sale options:
>>
>> $1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
>> $1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
>> $1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems
>>
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>>>
>>> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>>>
>>> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>>>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
>>>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though 
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey <
>>>> michaelg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that 
>>>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing 
>>>>>>>>> is 135mm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael 
>>>>>>>>> Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along 
>>>>>>>>>> this frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for 
>>>>>>>>>> the fam 
>>>>>>>>>> down to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be 
>>>>>>>>>> replaced 
>>>>>>>>>> with a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I 
>>>>>>>>>> bought this 
>>>>>>>>>> from John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original 
>>>>>>>>>> color/build (
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was 
>>>>>>>>>> on this 
>>>>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork avail

Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Weekend bump with a couple sale options:

$1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
$1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
$1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems

On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>
> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>
> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though :-)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that 
>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>>>>> 135mm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> from John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original 
>>>>>>>> color/build (
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>>>>> guides
>>>>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Vincent,

That Clem is beautiful, but your shifting issue sounds frustrating. Are you 
running a 9-speed cassette in the back? I had the indexing Sunrace thumbie 
on my Rivendell and performance felt just ok. My vintage Suntour thumb 
shifters from 1983 were better, and now I have a Riv silver thumbie on and 
it's also better. I suggest you buy one Riv silver thumbie and try that 
out. I clearly remember the PDF saying the stock shifters clicked but did 
not index. 

Also, consider that the Altus rear derailleur is a $13 part. Maybe it's 
just not up for your rough rides on the train tracks? I have a silver 
thumbie with the SRAM GX 10 speed rear derailleur shifting a 9-speed 
cassette, and it works perfectly. I highly recommend it. It has a clutch on 
it so you can forget about chain slap and dropped chains. It's available 
for nice prices because the trend in mountain bikes is now 12 speeds. (A 
matching 10 speed click shifter is also available for cheap, but I haven't 
tried it.)

I also have a narrow-wide chainring on the front. Perhaps you should 
consider one. How often are you using the biggest chainring? For me it's 
never (I took it off) because live in a city and commute so I rarely get up 
to speed for longer than 4 minutes. Are you regularly cruising above 15 
MPH? If not, go lower with your gearing. Wolf-Tooth and Stridsland both 
have excellent narrow-wide chainrings that will fit your cranks. Fewer 
moving parts is a nice thing for your bike. 

I hope this helps. Happy riding. 

Michael 


On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 11:40:52 PM UTC-4 Vincent Tamer wrote:

> I have an on going issue with my friction shifting setup on my 2016 
> complete Clem.
>
> I believe this will be my third cassette replacement now. Each time the 
> two smallest cogs are damaged/stripped for some reason, so that when I 
> pedal there is some crunching & ghost shifting. I cannot pedal with full 
> force on the first two gears.
>
> I’ve had issues with this since day one and I have a feeling it is due to 
> the 2016 complete clem’s shifting setup even though I’ve had it adjusted 
> and have explained to two different bike technicians.
>
> The shifter setup is odd, Riv even commented on how it was a little 
> strange in the Clem intro Pdf that was floating around for the longest time 
> (cannot find it now). I'm hoping someone knows what I'm talking about!
>
> These suntour shifters are set up in a reverse position and that they have 
> some kind of ratcheting mech in them. The clicks don’t always coincide with 
> a shift and maybe that has created some bad friction shifting form on my 
> part. Outside of that I’m at a loss for why I am having issues with 
> stripped cogs. 
>
> I’m considering switching to an indexed set up even though I don’t want to 
> but before I do, does any one have any wisdom they can shed on this 
> situation? Thank you!
>
> Pics are attached, of the whole bike (for fun) and of the shifter. I'll 
> grab some shots of the gears as well when I can.[image: 
> DSCF7718_sml.jpg][image: 
> shifter.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

[Michael Monti]

As a huge fan of the old Ritchey force stems, I'm going to say that it is 
very likely that the stems pictured here are designed to accommodate 
cantilever brakes, aka with cable stops.  The clamp diameter being 25.4.  
Also, I have found these stems hold handlebars very well.  The issue with 
these stems is not scratching the bars during install because the steel 
sleeve (the 25.4 part) is a longer length than most single bolt stems 
making it difficult to install anything other than a flat bar.  So, my 
trick for this is to take out the bolt and put it in backwards, starting it 
through the threaded side on the bottom of the sleeve and placing a penny 
in front of the unthreaded side covering it and threading the bolt into the 
penny and with minimal torque the clamp diameter opens up helping to 
prevent any damage to your handlebars during install.  The downside to this 
single bolt stem vs. the faceplater stem is deciding you want to change 
your stem and having to undo one side your beautifully wrapped bars.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

>
> Are those stems with the cable stops 26mm clamp?
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-7 Jordan Rosenblum wrote:
>
>> Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a 
>> longer stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars. Another option that I 
>> think sits somewhere between a face-plater and other single bolt stems are 
>> the Ritchey Force made by Nitto stems of the 90's, which you can 
>> occasionally find in even longer lengths. They are steel with a single 
>> bolt—and very pretty. The downside is that they don't have a ton of rise. 
>> As the poster above mentions, I have successfully used a Ritchey 25.4 clamp 
>> diameter stem with the 26.0 Ortho's, which were very secure—though I don't 
>> presume any knowledge of whether this is long-term safe. 
>>
>> I saw this post just as I was prepping a for-sale post of similar stems 
>> on another forum. If Chris or other folks are interested, the following are 
>> up for grabs, I am going to create a new post so that I don't derail the 
>> thread. These include a 120mm 25.4 faceplate stem, Ritchey 25.4 stems in 
>> 150 and 170mm(),  and a Ritchey 135mm, 26.0 (might be what you're 
>> looking for). Regardless, if you don't need a long steering column, I 
>> highly recommend the Ritchey Force stems if you can scrounge up the size 
>> that would work for you.
>>
>> Jordan in Portland, Oregon
>>
>> [image: IMG_6005.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_6011.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:39:02 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> For what it is worth Ron used 25.4 clamp size stems and claims & claims 
>>> they work great. Got to spread that clamp I guess.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:09 PM, El Sapo  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp 
>>> prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No megusta.The pics posted by iamKeith 
>>> don’t show that his hair, beard, and hip vibe are much greater riding the 
>>> bike with ortho bars.
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>>
 Thank you all for the pics and advice! Very helpful.

 I'm putting these bars on a 1985 Trek 870. As Riv says on their 
 cardboard geo charts "don't obsess", but geometrically this old frame is 
 not terribly far off some Riv models, setting aside, of course, bb drop 
 and 
 stack (1985 Trek 870: 21.8" frame, 71º hta, 71.5º sta, 58.0 tt, 48.5 cs, 
 5.0 drop, 52.7 stack, 40.6 reach).

 My current set-up is Choco bars and an 8cm Dirt Drop. The height feels 
 fine, just slightly above saddle height, and the reach isn't bad either 
 but 
 could be ~1" longer. I'm fairly upright but can lean in and grip forward 
 as 
 needed. I just like the idea of more width and more flare.

 Are these details helpful? I'm maybe leaning toward the 135mm 
 Faceplater based on your replies, but that does seem long!
 On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:

> [image: IMG_9267.jpeg]I’ve got these bars lined up for my Appaloosa 
> build. 
> My local bike shop had a NOS Velo Orange Grand Cru stem in 120mm that 
> looks pretty perfect. It’s 26.0, and having no rise should be slightly 
> longer in reality than its length number suggests. I’m hoping that the 
> wider clamp section will help it to grip the bars well too, despite the 
> single bolt. 
>
>
> On Monday 11 March 2024 at 03:33:24 UTC+10:30 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem 
>> advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame 
>> factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are 
>> generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>>
>> - Faceplater 110mm
>> - 

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Michael Morrissey]

Heron Touring 
55cm
$7000
Walled Lake, Michigan
Rare rare rare parts like Titanium Chris King headset, Nitto racks, and 
full Campagnolo...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/176156925449?itmmeta=01HRQFP37XW2ZW9W57MX91XV8H=item2903c55e09:g:1-QAAOSwlT9le1Vr=enc%3AAQAI4A7jbJYmJLb0qhGidg8sdvoie5vcUpIvYrS%2BSMvrLJLvPiSDvKpjMsaHlJTCd1soc%2BS7lyI3DhBCJIMPjYbsw%2Bz2jx3FF1A8HaYOsrSGCGDojnJMNqrJC9m0GJvRkaVV7ejS4wIjNmkGPkl5PLpOEQlbXY8ub8%2FhPJelndP333HN%2B5YXfIBsGZBcK%2BedK1MLmQWY7kHqX4c4AzxDVzG%2B1rJVrllsTotNUBw2pKEhm%2BQDzzEV4sTfCquOQ0jScQhSElZQaXk3KjAGccNhRMGhT54kCgPjyFiebEPpJtvqbTfN%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4C02O_FYw

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Roadini
> 57cm
> 2000
> Emeryville, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Revisiting the Nitto 52f Basket Rack

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Leah,

Your Platypus is going to be amazing. I advocate that you get the Velo 
Orange steering damper.

However, to install it you are going to need to reroute your cables on the 
downtube. Here's what you need for that, which allows you to run full 
length outer housing. I have these for my rear brake on my Rivendell and 
they work great. As a bonus, you can get cool cable outers in a contrasting 
color (try Sim Works or Velo Orange for these): 
https://www.amazon.com/ZYAMY-Bicycle-Hydraulic-Housing-Clamps/dp/B095P4GPQZ

The steerstopper is a cool farkle (fancy accessory really kewl likely 
expensive), but it's a $100 solution to a $10 problem. Try one of these on 
your front brake lever first as a parking brake:
https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Assorted/dp/B00SHBNE8E/ref=asc_df_B00SHBNE8E/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=19807628==g=15513276014631186794c===9067609=pla-318105899700=1=CjwKCAjw17qvBhBrEiwA1rU9w2QBemfat-bZ6llmXU4aAVZxoNtAa1OXdctlHdbXqGK7DcyUwTEkvxoC9MkQAvD_BwE

Michael
On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:22:42 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Tom,
> Thank-you for your information. I appreciate it.  
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:52:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Horton wrote:
>
>> kim, re the steerstopper on a clem L, I've had one on a clem L 64 for a 
>> few years and works fineI don't load the front basket with bricks or 
>> anything ultra heavy, but load of groceries, books, etc...no 
>> problemsthe steerstopper guy wasn't sure it would work and even offered 
>> to make a custom, longer version of the steerstopper; but the regular one 
>> has been fine for me. you need to snug the receiver part up tight (but 
>> beware, you can strip the threads if you get too exuberant).  I'd recommend 
>> it for a clem L; also have them on a few other front basketed rivs, all 
>> good.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 12:34:26 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_5598.jpeg][image: IMG_5582.jpeg]Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> I’ve had a Nitto Basket Rack from Rivendell for a few years. I think it 
>>> looks awesome, it’s dead useful, but it annoyed me that it was heavy and 
>>> made my bars swing around on my mermaid Platy. But as I plan the build for 
>>> my 50 cm purple Platy (which is taking a million years) I am considering 
>>> putting the basket rack back into service. It pains me to see it sitting, 
>>> and it’s so pretty and unique that I just want to give it another try. 
>>> Maybe the 650b wheels will be less floppy with this rack? Maybe the 
>>> smaller, lighter bike won’t seem as penalized by the heft of this rack? It 
>>> would be such an easy experiment if it wasn’t for the dyno light/wiring 
>>> that is affected by the decision. It’s not a matter of simply pulling the 
>>> rack, because wire length, light mount, etc are affected and will not be an 
>>> easy switch. My shop hates soldering and I certainly can’t do it. 
>>>
>>> I had started a thread long ago about this and a lot of people reported 
>>> similar experiences. Now that some more years have gone by, I’m curious if 
>>> opinions have changed, or if more people have these racks and would offer 
>>> their opinions. There isn’t much in the way of reviews to read online. 
>>> Maybe some here would offer theirs. If more folks are trying and loving 
>>> their Nitto Basket Racks, I’ll be likely to install mine. 
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, this beautiful Platypus sits in my living room on the shelf, 
>>> waiting for its parts to return from the anodizer. And, there’s fresh snow 
>>> on the ground. But talking bikes will get me through!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

A few nibbles, but no takers.

Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.

Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh

On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though :-)
>
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove green 
>> is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that is in 
>> the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>
>> Michael
>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>>>> 135mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this 
>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on 
>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>>>> guides
>>>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>>>>> mounts, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm 
&

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

The rims are DT Swiss X430 Disc. The hubs are SRAM (later Salsas came with 
anodized Formula hubs stock!) and the tires are 26" x 1" Ritchey Tom Slicks.

M


On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 9:43:10 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm positive those were DT mtb rims.  I don't believe DT (or anyone?) ever 
> made a rim for disc road application.  With the move to wide rims, though, 
> "vintage" DT mtb rims like these look like modern "road" rims.
>
> Will
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:09 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Nice bike! Curious about the rims: I see that they're DTs but I can't 
>> read the model. I do see that they are made for disc brakes. Are these 
>> mountain bike rims or road rims? I'm tickled to see that the Tom Slick is 
>> still available, but then those DT rims must be pretty narrow and therefore 
>> -- ? -- 26" road rims ...?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who rides 26" road wheels even tho' he also rides a 
>> theoretical level tt 60 c-c frame.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:57 PM Michael Morrissey  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_8082.JPG]
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-03-06 at 2.39.47 PM.png]
>>> Thanks again to everyone on this list for helping me pick out a bike for 
>>> my wife! This is what I came up with thanks to Coal Bee Rye Anne's 
>>> suggestion (I had no idea they made a 26" version)! I bought a 2012 
>>> Salsa Vaya 50cm with 26" wheels. It fits her great. Not only was she 
>>> completely surprised, but she did that thing where someone test rides a 
>>> bike and they disappear long enough for you to seriously worry. She went 
>>> around the block. She has never had drop bars, disc brakes or a steel 
>>> frame. She reported that it was quicker and smoother riding off pavement 
>>> than she expected. This bike is so nice. I also looked at the Bike Insights 
>>> page and the geometry isn't far off of the 26" 46cm small Appaloosa. I 
>>> didn't get the best bargain price, but I found it at The Pro's Closet and 
>>> they had great service, packed up the bike nicely, and even through in a 
>>> little torque wrench. The listing is still up if you want to see the specs 
>>> and how much I paid. 
>>>
>>> The contrarian in me also appreciates that this bike has no Shimano 
>>> parts. It has a full SRAM kit, and since it is from 2012 I consider it 
>>> adequately modern but not annoyingly so. I might convert it to 1x10 for 
>>> simplicity's sake. She wanted a blue bike, so I got blue pedals and I might 
>>> get some more blue parts (anyone holding blue Chris King disc hubs?) for 
>>> some added flair. 
>>>
>>> Long live the 26" wheel,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:07:42 AM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown 
>>>> away by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank 
>>>> you 
>>>> so much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! 
>>>> I got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
>>>> give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
>>>> when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
>>>> softens her up to let me buy more bikes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it 
>>>>> up…..vintage 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b 
>>>>> wheels; built it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 
>>>>> places, but now back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but 
>>>>> mostly we’re tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right 
>>>>> now 
>>>>> it’s a 1x9 with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on 
>>>>> it. 
>>>>> I; will post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> late to the party
>>>>>
>>>>> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and 
>>>>>

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Oops I meant they THREW in a little torque wrench. LOL. 

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> [image: IMG_8082.JPG]
> [image: Screenshot 2024-03-06 at 2.39.47 PM.png]
> Thanks again to everyone on this list for helping me pick out a bike for 
> my wife! This is what I came up with thanks to Coal Bee Rye Anne's 
> suggestion (I had no idea they made a 26" version)! I bought a 2012 Salsa 
> Vaya 50cm with 26" wheels. It fits her great. Not only was she completely 
> surprised, but she did that thing where someone test rides a bike and they 
> disappear long enough for you to seriously worry. She went around the 
> block. She has never had drop bars, disc brakes or a steel frame. She 
> reported that it was quicker and smoother riding off pavement than she 
> expected. This bike is so nice. I also looked at the Bike Insights page and 
> the geometry isn't far off of the 26" 46cm small Appaloosa. I didn't get 
> the best bargain price, but I found it at The Pro's Closet and they had 
> great service, packed up the bike nicely, and even through in a little 
> torque wrench. The listing is still up if you want to see the specs and how 
> much I paid. 
>
> The contrarian in me also appreciates that this bike has no Shimano parts. 
> It has a full SRAM kit, and since it is from 2012 I consider it adequately 
> modern but not annoyingly so. I might convert it to 1x10 for simplicity's 
> sake. She wanted a blue bike, so I got blue pedals and I might get some 
> more blue parts (anyone holding blue Chris King disc hubs?) for some added 
> flair. 
>
> Long live the 26" wheel,
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:07:42 AM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown 
>> away by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank you 
>> so much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! 
>> I got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
>> give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
>> when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
>> softens her up to let me buy more bikes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it up…..vintage 
>>> 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b wheels; built 
>>> it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 places, but now 
>>> back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but mostly we’re 
>>> tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right now it’s a 1x9 
>>> with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on it. I; will 
>>> post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing this late to 
>>> the party
>>>
>>> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and 
>>> it was a light fast road experience. 
>>>
>>> They’re both fit my wife who is short of leg…we call it, ‘well endowed 
>>> in the torso’. 
>>>
>>> Ron in Western Mass 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
>>>> Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
>>>> right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
>>>> small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
>>>> wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
>>>> proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.
>>>>
>>>> I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. 
>>>> I especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
>>>> parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
>>>> roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
>>>> her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
>>>> and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 
>>>>
>>>> I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
>>>> extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 
>>>>
&

[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Morrissey]

I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove green 
is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that is in 
the last picture of the Google Photos folder?

Michael
On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>
>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>
>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>> 135mm.
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>> down 
>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>> with 
>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this 
>>>>> from 
>>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>> guides
>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>
>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>>> mounts, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm 
>>>>> rotors front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires 
>>>>> easily. I never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just 
>>>>> fine. 
>>>>> I've used this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket 
>>>>> cruiser 
>>>>> with Nitto Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big 
>>>>> saddlebag (I used a large Sackville). 
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wheels:
>>>>>
>>>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat 
>>>>> Trap 
>>>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but 
>>>>> treads 
>>>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, 
>>>>> centerlock 
>>>>> rear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>
>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>
>> Nitto Marks Rack
>> 58cm Atlantis
>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>> 135mm.
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>> with 
>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>
>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from 
>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>> guides
>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>>>> color)
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>
>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>> mounts, 
>>>>
>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>>>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. 
>>>> I 
>>>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>>>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with 
>>>> Nitto 
>>>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I 
>>>> used 
>>>> a large Sackville). 
>>>>
>>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the 
>>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> Wheels:
>>>>
>>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but 
>>>> treads 
>>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, 
>>>> centerlock 
>>>> rear.
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Michael Ullmer]

Sorry to hear it's been discontinued! A list member came through and I'm 
all set. I see that Ben's Cycle is all sold out now too. Such a bummer for 
a well functioning piece by Nitto. There doesn't seem to be any equivalent 
either. One of the nice things about this too is that it can lower the 
attachment point for the bag (which I need on my Ram).

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 2:20:14 PM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:

> Will stated recently that the R50 is discontinued, so grab one while you 
> can if you want one. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 4:39:31 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ben's got it at a very good price. 
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
>>> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
>>> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
>>> stock...
>>>
>>> Anyone holding?
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Experience with North Street Bags backpack panniers?

[Michael Ullmer]

Hi Robert,

I used the North St Backpack Pannier for a few years and really liked the 
design and versatility. If I was ever going to go back to a 
pannier/backpack setup, this would be first on my list of bags to use. 
Highly recommended!

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 8:12:34 AM UTC-6 matthew...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> PS - I'm happy to provide some photos later if you'd like a reference on 
> them.
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of their panniers as well as a trunk bag and a hip pack 
>> from them. I daily wear the hip pack and it's pretty worse for wear after 
>> one year but I beat the ever living crap out of it (it's their ecopak 
>> material.) I've had two of the Route Panniers 24L bags for probably 2-3 
>> years now for commuting to work and they've been great, made of cordura. I 
>> can't attest to their durability on a grueling tour but I really like them 
>> and haven't had any excessive wear or leaks. Their customer service is also 
>> fantastic and very responsive. 
>>
>> On another note: Last year they sent out a 3rd party survey and I decided 
>> to fill it out on a whim. At the end of it, it asked if I had anything else 
>> I'd like to mention. I told them I was in the market for a nice trunk bag 
>> with a roll top closure and to my surprise, I got a return email direct 
>> from them (less than two days later) letting me know they had some old 
>> stock I could buy or I could order a custom bag from them. I went with the 
>> custom and the turn around was VERY fast. 
>>
>> Are they the best bags out there? I can't say. Are they good quality? 
>> Absolutely and they seem to be some great folks in my experience.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 12:07:25 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>
>>> I used the Arkel Bug backpack pannier for years and I really liked it. I 
>>> would use it an a pannier on my morning commute and then use it as a 
>>> backpack for riding the trails on my way home.
>>>
>>> It worked great as a pannier which is a given since the Arkel mounting 
>>> system is really well done. It also was very comfortable as a backpack. 
>>> Mine did not have a sternum strap but that proved to not be an issue.
>>>
>>> I used it pretty roughly and it is still as good as new. It looks to be 
>>> 25L which may be too small for what you need.
>>>
>>> [image: bike-convertible-pannier-bug-arkel-grey.jpg]
>>>
>>> Bug - Pannier Backpack 
>>> arkel.ca 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2024, at 4:14 PM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Greetings everyone,
>>> I am going to cycle the Zuiderzee bicycle route in the Netherlands in 
>>> April (400km) and am trying to figure out the best way to go straight from 
>>> the airport to the bike rental place without dragging a suitcase and all 
>>> the hassle entailed with that. I am definitely packing in a minimalist 
>>> fashion and am interested in the various offerings of backpack panniers. It 
>>> will be a three week trip and the 32 liter North St. Bags Woodward 
>>> backpack pannier seems like one of the better options out there for having 
>>> a carry-on that can transition straight from the airport to a bicycle rear 
>>> rack. Does anyone have any experience with this bag or similar products? 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Robert Blunt 
>>> Pennington, NJ
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Michael Ullmer]

Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my cargo 
upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear saddlebag 
train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of stock...

Anyone holding?

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold, thanks all.

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 6:18:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> All sold except the Nitto R-14
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:43:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Update with sold items and price drops:
>>>
>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>
>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>>>
>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>
>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>> BB - $50
>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>
>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>> for measurements.
>>>
>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>
>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>>>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 
>>>> Clamp. Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>>>
>>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>>> BB - $60
>>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>>
>>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>>> for measurements.
>>>>
>>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue 
>>>> color 
>>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>>
>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>>>
>>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold except the Nitto R-14

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:43:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Update with sold items and price drops:
>>
>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>>
>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>
>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>> BB - $50
>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>
>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>> for measurements.
>>
>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>> with yellow/red striping.
>>
>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>>
>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>
>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>>
>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>
>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>> BB - $60
>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>
>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>> for measurements.
>>>
>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>
>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Update with sold items and price drops:
>
> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
> though. Still buttery smooth.
>
> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>
> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>
> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
> - $50
> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>
> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
> for measurements.
>
> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
> with yellow/red striping.
>
> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>
>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>
>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>> BB - $60
>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>
>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>> for measurements.
>>
>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>> with yellow/red striping.
>>
>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

Update with sold items and price drops:

1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
--Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
though. Still buttery smooth.

2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
--Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.

3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
--Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 10cm. 
I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light and 
needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.

4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
- $50
--This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 

5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
--100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
for measurements.

6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
--60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a couple 
of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color with 
yellow/red striping.

7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
--Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> PM sent on bottom bracket.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>
> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
> though. Still buttery smooth.
>
> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>
> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>
> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
> - $60
> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>
> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
> for measurements.
>
> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
> with yellow/red striping.
>
> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>
> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>
> Nitto Marks Rack
> 58cm Atlantis
> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
>>> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
>>> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>
>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>>> color)
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>
>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>> mounts, 
>>>
>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
>>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
>>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
>>> a large Sackville). 
>>>
>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the 
>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>
>>> Wheels:
>>>
>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
>>> rear.
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>
>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>
>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Michael Ullmer]

Love that you opted for cantis on this frame. The mix of silver and black 
components is spot on. 

Did you get the tubing specs from Riv/Mark as well? Curious what was spec'd 
for this.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 5:50:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Agreeing with others, very elegant, and like the cantilever brake choice 
> and the dt shifters. 
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:40 AM brendonoid  
> wrote:
>
>> This is such a wonderful build sir, congratulations.
>>
>> This is the bike missing from the Riv line-up. A light rando frame with 
>> canti posts. So perfect.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Michael Ullmer]

Very classy build, Bill! I love the boldness of the pink and the contrast 
with the cream.

Do you know what your max tire size will be with/without fenders? And I 
assume its built for a 700c wheel?

Can't wait to see it with fenders!

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-6 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and 
> have some more content to share with the group. 
>
> Enjoy the new ride Bill!
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
>> other people's bikes.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I 
>>> too recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had 
>>> to do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you 
 went above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, 
> though. 
> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not 
> entirely 
> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's 
>> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my 
>> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle 
>> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
>> pounds, 
>> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>
>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like 
>>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>>> inaugural 
>>> ride take you?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
 tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have 
 enumerated 
 Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
 just 
 states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully 
 and 
 deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
 have 
 the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
 one of 
 the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
 Meditating 
 on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
 saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  

 I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
 machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed 
 grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed 
 down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
 about 
 this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
 which 
 was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse 
 cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
 nuances.  
 I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
 The 
 Flickr album has more shots in it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
> wrote:
>
>> SMH
>>
>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>>
>>> 

[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.

Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:

Nitto Marks Rack
58cm Atlantis
700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>
>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
>> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
>> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>
>> 1) Frame/Fork
>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>> color)
>>
>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>
>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>> SS - 17mm true temper
>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>> mounts, 
>>
>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
>> a large Sackville). 
>>
>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
>> crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
>> drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
>> rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
>> away, but overall pretty good.
>>
>> Wheels:
>>
>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
>> rear.
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>
>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>
>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>
> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached out 
> to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, but 
> instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>
> 1) Frame/Fork
> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
> color)
>
> Frame/Fork Details:
>
> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
> SS - 17mm true temper
> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
> Paragon Dropouts front and back
> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three bottle 
> bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack mounts, 
>
> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
> a large Sackville). 
>
> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
> crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
> drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
> rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
> away, but overall pretty good.
>
> Wheels:
>
> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
> rear.
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>
> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>
> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day - 2002 Size 60 Rambouillet

[Michael Ullmer]

Long overdue update to this post. The Ram has taken on a new configuration 
as of a couple weeks back, thanks in part to a counter-bored WI inner ring 
from one our very own Bill Lindsay.

I switched the wheels on here from 700c to 650b with the help of Tektro 
Long-Reach brakes. After a brief experiment with 48mm Switchback Hill tires 
which DID fit (sans fenders), I've settled on 42mm Pumpkin Ridge tires with 
SKS Fenders. Thanks to the counter-bored inner WI ring, I was able to use a 
narrow 108mm WI Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket. It currently has 48mm 
Noodles, though I may go to Albastache in the near future. Gearing is SRAM 
10speed with bar end shifters. As always, I'm continually impressed with 
the versatility of this bike. With my former camper/basket 26" Fitz up for 
sale, I'm planning on fitting this out with a rear saddlebag and front 
basket to see how it handles commuting duty. Long-term, if I can acquire a 
Riv more suited to the job, this will go back to a rackless adventure bike.

Pics of the current build: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8w5UH3xDhYzCj7ey5

On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Those 2 Orange Rams make me nostalgic for my blue one from some 10 years 
> ago; yes a very nice bike for aimless afternoon rides and with just enough 
> room for 32s and fenders. I rode mine with 1.35" Kojaks; it would have been 
> transformed with extralight RH tires. Actually, it *was* transformed with 
> Paris Roubaix open tubulars. Please (both of you) show more photos and 
> describe the feel of the bike after you ride it more.
>
> Also, I'll be interested to hear more of others' opinions on the Ram (and 
> Roadeo, Roadini, RoadUno, Quickbeam, Simpleone, Road Standard, and Longlow) 
> versus Legolas.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:47 AM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Beautiful, enjoy it, these older Rivendell bikes are my preferred models. 
>>
>

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[RBW] WTT: Nitto R-14 for Marks Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm planning on converting my Ram to a basket bike now that my Fitz is on 
the chopping block. I have two of these R-14s and hoping to trade one for a 
Marks Rack.

Anyone holding?

Or if anyone has a Marks Rack minus all the hardware, I'd be happy to just 
buy that outright and use my R-14 hardware on it.

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.

This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached out 
to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, but 
instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:

1) Frame/Fork
2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
color)

Frame/Fork Details:

TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
SS - 17mm true temper
BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
Paragon Dropouts front and back
Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three bottle 
bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack mounts, 

Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
a large Sackville). 

Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
away, but overall pretty good.

Wheels:

26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
rear.

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
Bikeflights/Pirateship

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping

Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping

Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A

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[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Everyone,

I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown away 
by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank you so 
much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! I 
got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
softens her up to let me buy more bikes.

Thanks!

Michael




On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it up…..vintage 
> 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b wheels; built 
> it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 places, but now 
> back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but mostly we’re 
> tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right now it’s a 1x9 
> with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on it. I; will 
> post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing this late to 
> the party
>
> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and it 
> was a light fast road experience. 
>
> They’re both fit my wife who is short of leg…we call it, ‘well endowed in 
> the torso’. 
>
> Ron in Western Mass 
>
> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
>> Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
>> right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
>> small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
>> wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
>> proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.
>>
>> I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. I 
>> especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
>> parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
>> roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
>> her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
>> and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 
>>
>> I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
>> extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has experience (or ones they will get rid of 
>> cheap) with the smallest of touring bikes: 
>> Joe Appaloosa in 46cm
>> Atlantis in 47cm?
>> Surly Long Haul Trucker or Disc Trucker in 42cm
>> Clem Smith / Clementine in 45cm 
>> Buy another old Gary Fisher and add drop bars and call it a day? 
>> Others???
>>
>> I'd even consider a 24" wheeled bike for her. Crust bikes made a 
>> Romanceur in 24". Salsa makes a 24" gravel bike that looks really nice too.
>>
>> If anyone has one we could try, we are in NYC.
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> Michael 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobby tires and fenders

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Another data point…..I’m running 700 X50mm (actual measurement is 48/49mm width) SOMA Cazaderos with VO fluted 63mm fenders on my 60cm Appaloosa. All is fine clearance wise as long as I don’t mud up…☺️Mike in Fair Oaks, CASent from my iPhoneOn Jan 30, 2024, at 7:41 AM, Steve  wrote:Not a direct comparison, but I can share that I've run 42mm Knobbies (WTB Resolutes) with both 52mm VO Zeppelins and 58mm Tanaka smooth fenders. I also ran a pair of 40mm Continental Terra Speeds (low profile knobs) under the Tanakas. Each of those combinations would occasionally kick leaves and small  sticks up into the front fender when riding gated fire roads, sometimes necessitating a stop to clear the debris. My turf, however, is woodsy Appalachian national forest -- a bit different from Patrick's high desert.  This past autumn when the leaves began to fall I pulled the fenders off my 'dirt bike' and mounted the largest tires the bike would accommodate; 48mm RH Oracle Ridge knobbies. I've been delighted with the bigger tires. The fenders have been safely stored away, waiting for the day when I decide to mount some 38mm RH Barlow Passes on it, swap the upright bars for drops and take it on the road.Steve in AshevilleOn Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 3:56:47 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:I'm not sure if this answers the question but perhaps it will help. I run 63mm VO Fluted fenders on my Platypus.  The stated max tire size is 48mm with fenders.  I have the smooth RH Hatcher Pass (48mm) on Velocity Dyads (so they measure closer to 45mm but greater diameter). I switched to knobby Oracle Ridge tires of the same size, and my fenders rubbed on my rear light mounting bolt (inside the fender). So they do require greater clearance for the tire only. I just had to make a very slight rear stay adjustment (2mm) to keep the tires from rubbing.In general though I prefer at least 10mm of clearance for non-knobby tires. I mostly just do the fender width minus the stated tire width instead of dealing with measuring the gaps everywhere.  So 63mm-48mm is 15mm of stated clearance.TomOn Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 2:16:38 AM UTC+1 ascpgh wrote:Seems like a similar question to the fenders off road (with smooth tires) question and maxims.I've got no knobby tires as of yet. I've ridden both my Rambouillet and Coast rando off road and only find the front mudflap an issue. I use two small bulldog binder clips  to affix the flaps (with their handle bales removed once mounted) and take them off when surface conditions are such that I'm picking things up at a rate higher than a low grade nuisance. I'm not riding at speeds high enough to cause any drama worth posting on social media. If my conditions and riding reach the point of requiring greater traction I would be all over the appropriate sized RH knobs for having dimensions that match those of the slick (file tread) tires for easy clearance consideration instead of beta testing all that myself with others' inputs. After Bill's brevet report I'm eagerly anticipating a long ride down the GAP which ihas n the past included some snowpack near the divide and plenty of recently unfrozen limestone dust trail surface that gets a bit spongy and slightly wheel spinny if trying to push yourself. They have a very nice uniform low height to width knob profile so they don't wobble under pedal or steering input. I learned about that with OG Specialized Hardpack 26" x 2.2"  riding trails off the Continental Divide in south central Colorado, 1988. Flexy knobs, taller on the sides, will let you down. Abruptly. Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 4:36:55 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:I am thinking of getting a second wheelset for the 2016 Chauncey Matthews "road bike for dirt" to supplement the very nice, very all-rounder-type 48 mm labeled/50 actual Soma Supple Vitesse SL wheelset. The second wheelset would have knobbies for sand, since the Somas just don't have the float and directional stability that I need for our sandy trails.Riv content: I told Chauncey to measure my 2 (at the time) custom Riv Roads and make the new bike handle as much l like those as possible. (And with the Somas it does, wonderful; the 60 mm Big Ones wallowed and wandered --- not horrible, just not Rivendell-like -- tho' they floated well over sand.)I am thinking of using RH knobbies -- since the reportedly once superlatively light and fast Thunder Burt has gained oz and stiffness compared to its first edition. (730 grams for the 700C X 2.35!! The 2.35 Big Ones are a digitally true 450 grams, and the F Freds that the TBs replaced were a true 360 at a true 50 mm.)The 55 mm Fleecer Ridges (per specs ELs would probably measure very close to 60 tubeless on my 27 mm IW rims) for max float; but this would mean removing the Kelpie fenders. I like fenders. I live in the high desert with an average 9" of rain a year but we have a lot of dust and full fenders keep a great deal of it off my legs and off of the bike. Also, the Matthews was 

[RBW] Re: WTB/T Nitto Tallux 5cm Stem

[Michael Connors]

Crust has 5cm x 250 Technomic stems for $55
https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-technomic-stem
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:59:06 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> Gonna bump this 'cause I'm still hoping someone's holding. Cheers. 
>
> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> Looking to shorten my reach a bit, and I'm wondering if one of you might 
>> be holding a Nitto Tallux 5 or 6cm stem (25.4, 225mm). I'm happy to 
>> purchase or I have an 8cm, 26.0 for trade.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
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[RBW] Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Everyone,

I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.

I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. I 
especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 

I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 

I was wondering if anyone has experience (or ones they will get rid of 
cheap) with the smallest of touring bikes: 
Joe Appaloosa in 46cm
Atlantis in 47cm?
Surly Long Haul Trucker or Disc Trucker in 42cm
Clem Smith / Clementine in 45cm 
Buy another old Gary Fisher and add drop bars and call it a day? 
Others???

I'd even consider a 24" wheeled bike for her. Crust bikes made a Romanceur 
in 24". Salsa makes a 24" gravel bike that looks really nice too.

If anyone has one we could try, we are in NYC.

Thanks! 

Michael 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Woolywarm Sweater Vest and/or Cardigan

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump on this and clarifying that a Large is what'll fit. I've had a couple 
folks reach out with an XL and XXL, and both are too large based on 
measurements. Thanks all!

On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I just picked up a Woolywarm Cheviot Sweater over the holidays and have 
> been loving it and would like to add a vest or Cardigan to the collection. 
> I expect a large or XL will fit. If you have anything give a shout!
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] Re: WTPF - Nitto Noodle, Albastache, and 70mm Tallux stem

[Michael Baquerizo]

would be happy to cover shipping on the talkux  please let me know if avail 
On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 7:06:30 PM UTC-5 J Imler wrote:

> I’m open to the drops and stem is available.
>
> On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 2:17:00 PM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> (WTPF = Want To Pay Forward)
>>
>> In this case - the people here have been so kind and helpful I'd like to 
>> give back. 
>>
>> I have as spare parts 2 Nitto handlebars - a Noodle and and Albastache - 
>> plus a 70mm Tallux stem. They're free for the asking; I just ask you cover 
>> shipping. 
>>
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