[RBW] Re: Betty Foy build
So can Yves join the flickr group too?? http://www.flickr.com/photos/54500043@N05/5477629930/ On Feb 25, 2:33 am, Marty wrote: > Betty deserves a Flickr Group of her very own. > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/bettyfoy/ > > Let's see 'em! > > On Feb 24, 1:16 pm, Bill wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 10:55 am, Minh wrote: > > ... > > > > only thing i'd consider is maybe a painted color-matched chain > > > guard. > > > > > > Even better: a chain guard made out of the same wood as the fenders, > > including the light double stripe. > > > It's certainly a fantastic build nonetheless. > > > Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Ride Report
Sorry I missed it. Sounds like a great group. Maybe next time I can make the trek across the pass to join in. Stayed on the dry-side this weekend (we even had a bit of rain too). Keely On Oct 10, 4:52 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > At exactly (or almost nearly) 10:10am on 10/10/10, a group of Riv-types met > up in Leschi on the Lake Washington side of Seattle to do a loop on a > prototypical Seattle rainy day. We waded our way across the I-90 floating > bridge and made a circuit of nearby Mercer Island. As far as I could tell, > everyone had a great time. Here's some bike pics to prove it. I was > assigned bike duty, so there are no people in my shots, save for Erin, the > lone VO rider. I'm sure others will fill in the blanks. I counted about 35 > miles for my ride from Maple Leaf, though I did get a bit of a hop back to > the UW with Alex after enjoying a post ride beer. Good times! Can't wait > for the next one... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/72157625011792143/ > > Brian > Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: This morning's ride.
Wow, Great that you were able to try them. I live in WA and tried to find one in Seattle to try, but sadly there were none at the time so I just trusted that it would be wonderful and it is. Weird about the 52, very counterintuitive. I am 5'3" also, making the 52 the largest bike I have ridden (my road bike - not even close to a Riv) is 49cm...and the 52 Betty/Yves feels large to me, especially at first. But its nice to know that the sizes are so versatile. It is tons of fun, and while a huge investment for me, is sooo worth it. You will love yours On Oct 5, 6:51 pm, grrlyrida wrote: > I know how you feel. I felt like a kid again on the Betty. I went to > the RBW in August to try one out. Surprisingly the 49 and 58 felt > great, while I felt uncomfortable on the 52 and I'm only 5'3. Go > figure. Grant also recommended the "go big" 58cm. > > Lucky girl. Congrats on your new bike, I hope to join you with a new > Betty in a few months. > > Ness > > On Oct 4, 10:38 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > Well it just sort of happened. From the get go I really liked the > > black color, but I did not like that it said "the international man's > > mixte" and I did not like that it cost $200 dollars more than the > > Betty Foyso the plan was for a Betty. I did like the blue too. > > But, I took s long in deciding to commit and order it that by the > > time I was ready to take the plunge RBW was out of Betty's in my size > > (52 cm), I probably could have fit at 49 cm Betty but I really wanted > > the 650 B wheels. They were expecting more Betty's in August but > > sadly no 52 cm's. And were unsure when they would get them in 52 > > cm. So I went for the Yves Gomez. And I am really happy with. I > > do like the black better (much better actually) and I can live with > > the slogan on the label - its really small and no one really sees > > it. > > > It is s much fun to ride I just can't stay off of it. I haven't > > felt like this about a bike, in well, forever. > > > Thanks for asking, > > > Keely > > > On Oct 4, 8:21 pm, grrlyrida wrote: > > > > Gorgeous scenery! > > > > Why did you decide on the Yves instead of the Betty? What was the > > > deciding factors? > > > > Ness > > > > On Oct 3, 12:37 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > Hey, Just wanted to thank everyone that gave me advice on 'upgrades' > > > > for a Betty Foy. I wound up not actually really upgrading > > > > anything. As much as I would have loved the Phil Wood hubs, I just > > > > couldn't justify it. > > > > > Anyways, the Betty Foy turned into an Yves Gomez which I ordered from > > > > RBW in July and it arrived in late August. I have been negligent in > > > > posting pics from my travels with Yves but thought I would throw up a > > > > few from this morning's ride. I woke up early while everyone else was > > > > still sleeping and snuck out of the house. It was fabulous. > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/54500...@n05/sets/72157625087671694/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: This morning's ride.
Well it just sort of happened. From the get go I really liked the black color, but I did not like that it said "the international man's mixte" and I did not like that it cost $200 dollars more than the Betty Foyso the plan was for a Betty. I did like the blue too. But, I took s long in deciding to commit and order it that by the time I was ready to take the plunge RBW was out of Betty's in my size (52 cm), I probably could have fit at 49 cm Betty but I really wanted the 650 B wheels. They were expecting more Betty's in August but sadly no 52 cm's. And were unsure when they would get them in 52 cm.So I went for the Yves Gomez. And I am really happy with. I do like the black better (much better actually) and I can live with the slogan on the label - its really small and no one really sees it. It is s much fun to ride I just can't stay off of it. I haven't felt like this about a bike, in well, forever. Thanks for asking, Keely On Oct 4, 8:21 pm, grrlyrida wrote: > Gorgeous scenery! > > Why did you decide on the Yves instead of the Betty? What was the > deciding factors? > > Ness > > On Oct 3, 12:37 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > Hey, Just wanted to thank everyone that gave me advice on 'upgrades' > > for a Betty Foy. I wound up not actually really upgrading > > anything. As much as I would have loved the Phil Wood hubs, I just > > couldn't justify it. > > > Anyways, the Betty Foy turned into an Yves Gomez which I ordered from > > RBW in July and it arrived in late August. I have been negligent in > > posting pics from my travels with Yves but thought I would throw up a > > few from this morning's ride. I woke up early while everyone else was > > still sleeping and snuck out of the house. It was fabulous. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/54500...@n05/sets/72157625087671694/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sneaker Pedals
Hey thanks. I will pick up some grease and give it a go. K On Oct 3, 11:42 pm, Ian Dickson wrote: > I would take Ryan's advice and overhaul the pedals. Several times > I've had MKS pedals start clicking on me after not too many miles. > Your own grease/adjustment job will last a lot longer than the factory > job. Also, it's an easy, low-risk maintenance project that's worth > doing just to know how. > > Don't worry too much about the kind of grease or how much. Just put a > bunch of grease in there. > > On Oct 3, 9:02 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > Okay. Great thanks. I will check and see if I can tighten the pedal > > and if that helps...If not I will give greasing the bearings a go. > > How much grease do you put in there ? > > > Keely > > > On Oct 3, 9:12 pm, Philip Williamson > > wrote: > > > > Buy some grease. Get into the pedal and put a lot of grease on the > > > bearings. Put it back together. There's a little bit of a learning > > > curve on 'how tight is too tight,' but if you go 'hey, that's too > > > tight,' just back it off a bit. > > > > Fai Mao is correct, though - clicking usually indicates looseness. > > > Squeeking is a sign of no lubrication. Do both -tighten up the pedals > > > and grease them. You might make sure the cranks are on tight, too. > > > > Greasing the pedals usually takes a small socket wrench, and maybe a > > > screwdriver to pop off a dustcap. > > > Tightening them takes either a pedal wrench or a hex wrench, depending > > > on the design. > > > Tightening the cranks might take a socket (14mm?) or a hex wrench > > > (large), again, depending on the design. > > > > Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com > > > > On Oct 3, 12:55 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > So I am a bike maintenance novicealthough I am committed to > > > > learning to do it myself. I have been riding for 25+ years and have > > > > logged thousands of miles, but I am embarrassed to say that the most > > > > I have ever done to my bike is change the tires/tubes/rim tape, clean > > > > the chain, replace the chain (though that didn't work out very well > > > > for me) and lube the chain. Everything else I have left to the > > > > professionals. > > > > > But I am turning over a new leaf and intend to figure it out. Which > > > > brings me to my sneaker pedals. They are very new (i.e. less than > > > > 300 miles). But on a trip through the B.C's Gulf Islands last month, > > > > I rode through three days of continuous rain. I live in a dry climate > > > > and am also a newbie at crappy weather. > > > > > After that trip, every-time I ride the left sneaker pedal had > > > > developed a super annoying clicking noise, and the more pressure I put > > > > on the pedal the more it clicks (probably twice a revolution). I am > > > > thinking that maybe dirt/grime/whatever got in during the rain. Not > > > > sure what to do about this, can I take it apart and lubricate? Can you > > > > tell me how? > > > > > Keely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sneaker Pedals
Okay. Great thanks. I will check and see if I can tighten the pedal and if that helps...If not I will give greasing the bearings a go. How much grease do you put in there ? Keely On Oct 3, 9:12 pm, Philip Williamson wrote: > Buy some grease. Get into the pedal and put a lot of grease on the > bearings. Put it back together. There's a little bit of a learning > curve on 'how tight is too tight,' but if you go 'hey, that's too > tight,' just back it off a bit. > > Fai Mao is correct, though - clicking usually indicates looseness. > Squeeking is a sign of no lubrication. Do both -tighten up the pedals > and grease them. You might make sure the cranks are on tight, too. > > Greasing the pedals usually takes a small socket wrench, and maybe a > screwdriver to pop off a dustcap. > Tightening them takes either a pedal wrench or a hex wrench, depending > on the design. > Tightening the cranks might take a socket (14mm?) or a hex wrench > (large), again, depending on the design. > > Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com > > On Oct 3, 12:55 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > So I am a bike maintenance novicealthough I am committed to > > learning to do it myself. I have been riding for 25+ years and have > > logged thousands of miles, but I am embarrassed to say that the most > > I have ever done to my bike is change the tires/tubes/rim tape, clean > > the chain, replace the chain (though that didn't work out very well > > for me) and lube the chain. Everything else I have left to the > > professionals. > > > But I am turning over a new leaf and intend to figure it out. Which > > brings me to my sneaker pedals. They are very new (i.e. less than > > 300 miles). But on a trip through the B.C's Gulf Islands last month, > > I rode through three days of continuous rain. I live in a dry climate > > and am also a newbie at crappy weather. > > > After that trip, every-time I ride the left sneaker pedal had > > developed a super annoying clicking noise, and the more pressure I put > > on the pedal the more it clicks (probably twice a revolution). I am > > thinking that maybe dirt/grime/whatever got in during the rain. Not > > sure what to do about this, can I take it apart and lubricate? Can you > > tell me how? > > > Keely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] This morning's ride.
Hey, Just wanted to thank everyone that gave me advice on 'upgrades' for a Betty Foy. I wound up not actually really upgrading anything. As much as I would have loved the Phil Wood hubs, I just couldn't justify it. Anyways, the Betty Foy turned into an Yves Gomez which I ordered from RBW in July and it arrived in late August. I have been negligent in posting pics from my travels with Yves but thought I would throw up a few from this morning's ride. I woke up early while everyone else was still sleeping and snuck out of the house. It was fabulous. http://www.flickr.com/photos/54500...@n05/sets/72157625087671694/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sneaker Pedals
So I am a bike maintenance novicealthough I am committed to learning to do it myself. I have been riding for 25+ years and have logged thousands of miles, but I am embarrassed to say that the most I have ever done to my bike is change the tires/tubes/rim tape, clean the chain, replace the chain (though that didn't work out very well for me) and lube the chain. Everything else I have left to the professionals. But I am turning over a new leaf and intend to figure it out. Which brings me to my sneaker pedals. They are very new (i.e. less than 300 miles). But on a trip through the B.C's Gulf Islands last month, I rode through three days of continuous rain. I live in a dry climate and am also a newbie at crappy weather. After that trip, every-time I ride the left sneaker pedal had developed a super annoying clicking noise, and the more pressure I put on the pedal the more it clicks (probably twice a revolution). I am thinking that maybe dirt/grime/whatever got in during the rain. Not sure what to do about this, can I take it apart and lubricate? Can you tell me how? Keely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Back to the Friction
I am using a 9 speed cassette with the Silvers. No problems here, and I love them!!! On Oct 3, 1:49 pm, Garth wrote: > No worry at all. They'll shift as many cogs as you want. Go ahead and > order them. > > If a friction shifter doesn't hold a gear, it means you don't have it > tightened enough. What makes the SunTour power ratchet so nice is you > get a nice balance between tight enough that it won't lose a gear, but > loose enough that it has a light action. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I finished an Yves Gomez for my wife
That's awesome. I love it. I actually have a Yves Gomez on order from Riv and hope to see it on my doorstep within the month. So this was kind of like a sneak peek of what is to come. Glad to know I will not be the only female riding the 'international mans mixte' Keely On Aug 20, 12:31 pm, William wrote: > I've finished setting up my wife's mixte. It's turned out quite > nicely. 52cm Yves Gomez. She's adjusting to the Albatross bars, but > so far so good. She wanted a black and tan looking bike and has no > qualms about having her decals say "International Mens Mixte". The > rack that we use with the Burley Piccolo is also powder coated black > so it looks right at home. In fact, I've been thinking of setting up > a 58cm mixte for myself and I prefer the baby blue. > > Anyway, shots in my flickr: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4910562571/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
So for those of you who are using IRD freewheels with your PW hubs, what are your thoughts on the QC issues that IRD has had. The folks at Rivendell seem to think the problems are over but reading various online forums, I am not so sure. Keely On Jul 18, 10:26 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. > > philip > 97128 > > On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 > wrote: > > > > > I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs > > (Cassette). > > I agree with all I've seen here. > > For me, the most practical difference has been the "service after the > > sale." > > On two occasions I've had slight "problems" with PW gear and a quick > > phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, > > one time for free. > > Specifically, the issues were: > > *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the > > back of the car. "Grit" got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW > > replaced the BB. (for free!) > > *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a > > 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a > > very small fee. > > > UPGRADE IDEA for you: > > For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the > > "Schmidt Dynohub" for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least > > 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is "like new." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
It true...I do need racks and bagsfenders...etc. On Jul 17, 9:06 am, jamison brosseau wrote: > i would get a non budget shimano wheelset. those hubs last a long > time, and with the money you save, you can afford to outfit your bike > with all the racks and bags you will need. > jamison > > On Jul 17, 11:30 am, rperks wrote: > > > > > I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I > > think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that > > will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. > > If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added > > strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for > > me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels > > hit a sweet spot for me. > > > Plus they look really cool > > > Rob > > > On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's > > > online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before > > > her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have > > > huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am > > > thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but > > > get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and > > > not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. > > > > I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the > > > longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries > > > or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this > > > purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). > > > > Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important > > > thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood > > > hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely > > > intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs > > > that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my > > > only bike has a cassette. > > > > What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Thanks for all the replies.The PW 'Rivy' hubs probably would not break the bank while the PW cassette hubs would. But I was a little unsure about the freewheel but it sounds like maybe that should not be so much of a concern. Anything else you would recommend upgrading?? On Jul 17, 8:30 am, rperks wrote: > I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I > think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that > will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. > If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added > strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for > me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels > hit a sweet spot for me. > > Plus they look really cool > > Rob > > On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > > > > > I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's > > online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before > > her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have > > huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am > > thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but > > get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and > > not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. > > > I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the > > longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries > > or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this > > purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). > > > Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important > > thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood > > hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely > > intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs > > that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my > > only bike has a cassette. > > > What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maximum Honjo fender size compatible with Silver Sidepull and/or Paul Racer brakes
So I am planning to purchase a betty foy and wanted to put Hetres on it. Did you find a problem with brake clearance and fenders large enough to accommodate the hetres? On Jun 24, 1:45 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'm getting a Betty Foy for my daughters to ride (and me to use as well...), > but the frame arrival is still 3+ weeks away... > > I decided to order red Hetre tires and their corresponding Honjo fenders, > which upon arrival, happen to have a label that states they are 60mm (sold > by BQ). > > It dawned on my, after talking with Keven, that the frame clearance wasn't > going to be the issue, but the brake clearance. I'm going to measure the > clearance that my Racer brakes have on my AHH, and I also have a spare set > of Silver brakes that originally came with the AHH. Knowing that what I'll > measure may not necessarily correlate to real-life use, I'm wondering if > anyone here has had any experience with what the maximum clearance for Honjo > fenders with these brakes will be. > > I know I'll be able to use the tires fenderless, and Keven thinks that the > SKS fenders will probably fit as well. I was set on the Honjos, and the > version BQ sells is very beautiful. I'd hate not to be able to use them. > > Thanks for any feedback! > > René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.