[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Rob Kristoff]

If anybody in this discussion would like to continue discussing bicycles, 
riding, and spirituality (of all types) "off list," I'd be happy to host 
such a thing in the comments section of my blog: 
https://robkristoffwriting.blogspot.com/2022/02/on-bicycles-and-spirituality-of-all.html
 if 
that helps. Hope to meet some of you there.

Rob



On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 12:05:06 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I agree, John. And I think there is something in particular about 
> Rivendell bicycles, that encourage it, for me. Some people may find it 
> freeriding machine built flow trails, but, here, what we all have in common 
> is a an appreciation of the ineffable ride quality and a connection to the 
> aesthetic experience of owning and riding Rivendell bicycles. For me at 
> least, the thing that makes a particular bike good for Just Riding is 
> probably what makes it good as part of an "activity that does not require 
> much discursive thought," as Watts put it.
>
> Thanks for sharing the talk.
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:24:07 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> I hear you on the 'consistent practice' notion, Paul. This is why I find 
>> cycling such a wonderful medium. I enjoy it, it's something I don't really 
>> need to motivate myself to do, and I do it every day. As long as I'm 
>> sitting on the bike, I might as well breathe and enjoy my surroundings. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:12:21 AM UTC+9 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Joe, Your point is well received, and I do appreciate that we all 
>>> ride in our own ways and for our own reasons. I'm delighted to have a forum 
>>> like this to learn about how others do so. 
>>>
>>> Perhaps a better title for this post would have been: 'Breathing, 
>>> attention and other practices that enhance your ride' 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:58:12 AM UTC+9 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, 
 I'll add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform 
 Thich Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, 
 Calm/Ease, Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never 
 been 
 big on listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of 
 formal practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who 
 enjoyed talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up 
 having some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path 
 of the Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different 
 experiences 
 have led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - 
 along with love and drugs.

 But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
 practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
 exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
 matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
 intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
 year for a real bicycle day blowout.

 Paul in AR

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at 
> local book shops for a couple different titles.
>
> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>
> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
> , 
> this compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with 
> ease, including your saddlebag.
>
> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a 
> copy around.
>
> Best,
> Jared
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>>
>> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough 
>> about the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting 
>> this thread. 
>>
>> Rob K. in MA
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on 
>>> the most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have 
>>> this 
>>> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop 
 before my posts get pulled!"

 Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to 
 unexpected plac

[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Rob Kristoff]

Erik,
+1 on thanks for your thorough response. 

We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
thread. 

Rob K. in MA

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>> posts get pulled!"
>>
>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
>> places. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
>>> people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
>>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
>>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>>
>>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
>>> years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
>>> writer and teacher.  
>>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
>>> original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great reflection 
>>> of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing these 
>>> lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
>>> in my head.  :)
>>>
>>> If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
>>> because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
>>> Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
>>> speech at Stanford in 2014.  
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs
>>>
>>> And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>>> posts get pulled!
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
 Ride" for Zen?

 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what 
> you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share 
> something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
> approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 
>
> My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City in 
> the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during this 
> time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
> view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the 
> same 
> energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
> morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home again 
> were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.
>
> Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
> experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing 
> as 
> a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough hill, 
> frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
> stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
> mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to 
> the 
> moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
> 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>
>> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with Zen practice for a 
>> long time.  I'm fortunate to live the greater Bay Area, one of the 
>> places 
>> where Soto Zen first took root in America back in the 1950s and 60s as 
>> the 
>> Beat generation started attending services at local Japanese temples in 
>> pursuit of new experiences.  Between San Francisco Zen Center and all of 
>> the other temples and practices centers that branched off over the years 
>> around here, we have a lot of teachers and places to practice.  I've 
>> been a 
>> student at Sonoma Mountain Zen Center for many years now and have spent 
>> a 
>> lot of time sitting on a cushion and staring at the wall inside the 
>> zendo. 
>>
>>
>> A fundamental concept in Zen practic

[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

[Rob Kristoff]

Hi Johnny,
Bike shops are out of a lot of things, but I can't imagine they don't have 
brake mounting bolts at any local shop. (But then, there's a lot of things 
about this latest bike boom I thought I'd never see, so...) I guess it 
depends how particular you are about the bolts you get. I'm sure the OEM 
bolts Shimano supplies 
(https://cambriabike.com/products/shimano-xt-m750-739-v-brake-mounting-bolt) 
could be a little rarer, but if you just need to mount the brakes, it 
should be pretty simple. (These Shimano bolts may be what Garth's link 
refers to, but I can't seem to get it to connect).

Rob

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. The 
> length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I suppose. 
>
>
> https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized 
>> that I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an 
>> easy to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say 
>> works and doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will 
>> work?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Removing Paul studs

[Rob Kristoff]

Samuel, my two cents is to just call Paul. I'm sure they'll be able to tell 
you the exact procedure. They're very friendly that way.

RK




On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 7:55:19 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> Hi all, 
> What’s the correct way to remove the Paul cantilever boss pivots. I’ve not 
> yet exhausted my options but I’d like to error on the side of caution and 
> preserve the smooth surface.
>
> Thanks!
> Samuel 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The scariest Rivendell - Halloween Special - Pumpkin QuickBeam and Carbon

[Rob Kristoff]

I like it. Are those hubs from a Vanilla/Speedvagen? Looks sort of like 
their paintwork.

RK

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 8:59:20 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Is that a garmin mount at the rear?  Is it for their radar/rear light?  
> Where did you get it...or did you fabricate it?  
>
> Best regards,
> Matt Beecher
> Oswego, IL
>
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 7:50:37 AM UTC-5 Max S wrote:
>
>> Don't let Grant and the Riv gang see this, okay?.. 
>>
>> - Max "Well, don't say I didn't warn ya in the subject line..." in A2 
>>
>> [image: QuickBeam - Enve 67 carbon wheels - drive side.jpeg]
>> [image: QuickBeam - carbon wheels - threequarter.jpg]
>> [image: QuickBeam - Enve Endless Bike DT Swiss White Ind drivetrain.jpeg]
>> [image: QuickBeam - carbon wheels - chainline.jpg]
>> [image: QuickBeam - carbon Ti - seat cluster.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] A not-so-riv-ish Riv

[Rob Kristoff]

Beautiful. Love it all, including the Campagnolo.

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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[Rob Kristoff]

Brett, am I decoding your message correctly that Will is JFK, jr? ;) 

Rob

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[RBW] The Quickbeam Rides Again!

[Rob Kristoff]

Looks wonderful. As someone else said, better than new!

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[RBW] Weird handlebar idea

[Rob Kristoff]

but not the riv/nitto noodle? do you want it wider? Maybe the crust towel rack? 

RK 

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[RBW] RBW Business Model

[Rob Kristoff]

I appreciate the light-hearted post. But we've been down the road of 
second-guessing Grant, Will, and Co.'s business dealings before. Instead, let's 
discuss that beautiful Saluki! 

RK (now @bike.writing on insta)

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Re: [RBW] This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Rob Kristoff]

Am I seeing a second saddle rail? If so, wouldnt that require a special 
clamping mechanism? (See Brooks B66 on their page).

I have no experience with sprung saddles like this, but it looks like it would 
put a lot of pressure on that one bolt.

Rob

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[RBW] Search continues, need to try a 50cm 650b Atlantis.

[Rob Kristoff]

Joel, Have you checked with Jason at Maine Bike Works? How about Analog? (I'm 
assuming you've already checked with Harris Cyclery?)

Good luck, 

Rob
Danvers, MA

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

[Rob Kristoff]

BBDD-
IMO, Nitto would be foolish not to warranty this stem (and bar, since mistakes 
in one damaged the other.) Do they know how much you've $pent on their products 
(and will)? And your massive social media presence?

Now, I'm not encouraging gouging Nitto (see what I did there?) for 'free' 
stuff, but in all the customer service training I've had, they say creating an 
unhappy customer costs a business far more than giving them whatever makes them 
happy. I know you'd likely keep buying from them anyway, but how could they 
know that?

Best, RK

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Re: [RBW] Useful use for beeswax

[Rob Kristoff]

I find that it's also good for coating unpainted steel that likes to rust. In 
my case, the latest has been the spindle on my (external bearing) BB.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: BMX Nostalgia

[Rob Kristoff]

Without question, I wouldn't be in this group without BMX PLUS! magazine. Where 
my love of bikes was born.

I was more into the freestyle side of things, but did race once. Crashed in all 
three motos. Not used to getting sir off real jumps.

Good memories.

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[RBW] Re: Are Riv Sliver shifter + Paul thumibe days over?

[Rob Kristoff]

Justin, 
Have you contacted Paul? They often seem to do special request kinda things for 
customers. I doubt they'd make new ones, but could very well have a few 
somewhere that aren't worth listing on the website. Can't hurt to ask.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

[Rob Kristoff]

Doug,
You know that mechanic was probably impressed you at least got it apart!

Rob

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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

[Rob Kristoff]

Patrick, 
When will they let you know if they can get the sage? Is it just a question of 
how long you're willing to wait? (Sorry if I missed this detail)

RK

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[RBW] Re: Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[Rob Kristoff]

Yes, thanks Analog! Fun AND informative. 

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[RBW] Re: For salvage sale, Ibis Cousin IT tandem

[Rob Kristoff]

So are you going to keep it, Bill? That's a rare and nearly mythical beast! But 
I imagine storing 2 tandems would be difficult. 

Have you gotten in touch with Ibis? Seems like they're pretty active sending 
out newsletters and such. Maybe they'd want to let Ibisians (as they say) know 
about your sale?

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Rob Kristoff]

James, is it because in this case the tubes under the lugs are damaged? So 
you'd have to replace them? 

I'd always heard from Riv etc how repairable lugged steel is, but just realized 
how that always assumes the lug itself hasn't broken.

Best, Rob

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Rob Kristoff]

Hi Kai,
I'm confused why a cracked bb shell on a qb would be a goner? Did they go away 
from lugs in models I havent seen? Seems like a pretty simple lugged fix if one 
could get a replacement bb lug. 

The qb is a decent quality frame isnt it? Seems worth the investment. (unless 
OP can find replacement frame for le$$)

Just curious.
Rob
Danvers, MA

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[RBW] first impressions of Atlantis

[Rob Kristoff]

Great pictures. Beautiful bike AND adorable kids!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Rob Kristoff]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but dynamo can also be used to charge cell 
phones and other USB devices. Always handy.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: My Custom Rivendell

[Rob Kristoff]

Laing, 
gorgeous custom and I love the use of Campy. I'm interested to hear why you 
chose to not have any rack or fender mounting. Weight? Weatherproofing?

Rob

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Re: [RBW] FS: 55 cm Betty Foy

[Rob Kristoff]

Leah, are you CERTAIN you want to get rid of this bike? This could be "the 
universe" ;) giving you a second chance.

That said, it WOULD be an all-time great Vday present.

Rob

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[RBW] PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

[Rob Kristoff]

Karl, way too big for me, but I for one would love to see pics of that Riv MTB.

Rob

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Re: [RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

[Rob Kristoff]

PBP on a fixed gear. Pretty impressive!

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

[Rob Kristoff]

Jason, 
great bike. LOVE the pink highlight!

Rob

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[RBW] 2019 stats? Post'em if ya got'em

[Rob Kristoff]

Mileage was modest, but I'm proud to report that I (just barely) topped 50,000 
ft. of climbing in 2019.

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Tiny Saluki/Homer at RBW any color you want

[Rob Kristoff]

Jason, IF I remember correctly, the Bleriot was a Riv/QBP joint venture. 

I'm only guessing, but I doubt it's GP that's holding up its comeback. From the 
Q point of view, they probably have an All City or Surly that "replaced" it.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Rob Kristoff]

Jock:
I worked at a Schwinn shop in 1987 and the mentor who got me started road 
riding had a Paramount that (at least in memory) was similar to yours. 

So, needless to say, I LOVE your bike.
 
Such timeless beauty.

RK

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Rob Kristoff]

If I remember correctly from the blahg, PB actually goes by Robert, right? 
(sorry to nerd out, I think as a Robert myself, I may be more aware of this 
than average)

masmojo, surely you at least feel there was some magic in the 90s, since RBW 
wasn't even in existence until 94? As a roadie who started in 87, I know what 
you mean, but I'm sure the kids on the radavist will say the same in 30 
years---about the present moment.

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[RBW] Happy Retirement Bob!

[Rob Kristoff]

But Riv wasn't even founded until the mid-nineties. Surely you feel at least 
some Riv era was magic?

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[RBW] Re: Let me introduce my new friend, Sam, properly

[Rob Kristoff]

Very nice. Giving off lots of XO-1 vibes with that orange paint, too! Enjoy.

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[RBW] Sackville TrunkSack Small Mod

[Rob Kristoff]

Great bag, Ben, but show us your Quickbeam! :)

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[RBW] PSA: Riv Cross Custom

[Rob Kristoff]

It amuses me when CL ads get all opinionated and editorial like this. As if the 
seller has only this one chance on the soapbox-and they're not going to waste 
it. :) 

Nice bike. 

RK

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[RBW] Re: rebuilding the SimpleOne

[Rob Kristoff]

You might do better to get a chain tug than a stronger skewer. Just one on the 
drive side is probably enough.

Rob

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[RBW] Riding and then mountaineering

[Rob Kristoff]

Takashi,
Thanks for sharing. Wonderful pics.

Rob

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[RBW] Pics from Riv

[Rob Kristoff]

Joe, thanks for sharing the pics. See/hear any sign of this new linear pull 
brake GP has mentioned?

Rob

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Re: [RBW] Bike Article

[Rob Kristoff]

Eben's been a friend of Riv for a long time. They sell his books, he mentions 
them in articles from time to time
 
Didn't he do a reading or something at HQ awhile back?

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Rob Kristoff]

Wasn't the Roadini meant to be the road version of a Clem?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell tandem builds

[Rob Kristoff]

what did you do with the motolites? Interested in selling?

Rob

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[RBW] Re: Paul motolite reviews?

[Rob Kristoff]

Chris, 
Please let me know if you ever decide to switch to cantis and want to sell the 
motolites.

Rob

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

[Rob Kristoff]

Tom, I usually don't like upright bars on Atlantises, but something about your 
bike just looks perfect to me. Good job, and thanks for the review.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Rob Kristoff]

Fullylugged, 
where did you get the crack repaired? I have 2 cracked steel frames I've held 
on to in hopes of repairing.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Rob Kristoff]

where did you get the frame repaired? Have 2 cracked steel frames I've held 
onto...

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[RBW] Re: Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

[Rob Kristoff]

Thanks, Doug! :)

On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 1:49:41 AM UTC-5, DHans wrote:
>
> I enjoy Dirt Rag and I agree this is a nice article. Regarding the Gus, 
> has a price point been established for the build?
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 9:40:01 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> Glad this magazine is still around.  Remember reading it way back when...
>>
>>
>> https://dirtragmag.com/start-slow-and-taper-off-forest-bathing-on-two-wheels/
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

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That's my article. Glad you liked it! 

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[RBW] Re: Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 9:40:01 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote:
> Glad this magazine is still around.  Remember reading it way back when...
> 
> 
> https://dirtragmag.com/start-slow-and-taper-off-forest-bathing-on-two-wheels/

Hi all.
That's my article! Thanks for noticing!

Rob

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[RBW] Re: Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

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Thanks so much, Paul. 

That means a lot, especially from a Riv owner.

Rob

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