[RBW] Re: For Sale

[Roy Summer]

Everything still available.
Take $5 off every item. Buy 2 get free shipping.
Bontrager still available. $1200 no seat, no pedals, different (but 
rideable) tires. Shipped freight paid.
Bridgestone Jupiter Country $950. Pick up or you figure out freight.
The more you buy, the more you save!

On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 3:49:52 PM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:

> Claris rear derailleur - new in box $35
> MSW cartridge bottom bracket, English thread, 68mm shell, 122.5 spindle - 
> new in box $25
> 50 tooth chain ring, steel, 110 bolt circle - new $15
> 34 tooth chain ring steel, 110 bolt circle -  ew $15
> 48 tooth chain ring, Shimano, alloy, 110 bolt circle - used, very 
> good/excellent $20
> Nitto Technomic stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar - excellent $35
> Nitto Pearl stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar - new $50
> Nitto Dynamic stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar, titanium stem bolt - 
> excellent $55
> Truvative seat post, 350mm, 27.2, black - new $35
> Aheadset stem, 110 neck, 1”quill, 26.0 bars, silver - excellent $25
> Aheadset stem, 90 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bars, black -  new $25
> Shimano 11 speed cassette, 11-25, near new - excellent + $25
> All items plus freight. Shipped cheapest way (post office; tracked). 
> Discount for multiple purchases. Located in Westchester Co., NY. Check or 
> money order. I don’t do Venmo, PayPal or other transfer things. Pictures on 
> request.
>
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[RBW] Re: For sale

[Roy Summer]

Still available. Price drop. No seat, no pedals, different, but definitely 
rideable tires. Shipped or delivered CONUS. $1200. Fork was built by Dylan 
Varecamp, Brooklyn, NY. Will entertain trades: 52-54 C-T road bike. No 
aluminum (Vitus excepted), no carbon please. Let’s talk.
Thanks.
On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:

> 1995 (?) Bontrager. Pre Trek. Totally rebuilt to emulate a Bridgestone 
> X0-1 (Atlantis) with drop bars. 17” frame.
> Chris King headset & hubs (32 hole); Mavic rims; Shimano BB; cantilever 
> brakes; Ultegra medium cage rear, XTR front derailleurs, 11-30 cassette
> Salsa bars (42cm), Micro Shift 8 speed bar ends, 170 alloy crank 38/43
> $1400, no seat & pedals $1300
> Trades for road bike (52-54 c-t) considered. No disc brakes. Prefer 
> vintage.
> Located Westchester Co., NY. Will ship. Possibly deliver or meet to trade.
>

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Re: [RBW] Touch-up paint

[Roy Summer]

Sometimes you can find nail polish that will match or come very close. 
Clear polish will help prevent rust if you can’t find a color match.

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:31:18 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:

> I need Pea Sage Green. Got a "beusage" spot on my Romulus.
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024, 4:49 PM Zac  wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had my 
>> paint color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were shutting down, 
>> but it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv colors:
>>
>> Rivendell Atlantis Green
>> Rivendell Cream
>> Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
>> Rivendell Jay's Green
>> Rivendell Light Blue Met
>> Rivendell Light Green
>> Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
>> Rivendell Roadeo R
>> Rivendell Roadeo White
>> Rivendell Sage
>> Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange
>>
>> I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles instead of 
>> glass like I received.
>> https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196
>>
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[RBW] Re: Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

[Roy Summer]

I agree with Johnny Alien. Get Albastashe bars. I ride an X0-1 with 
original mustache bars (precursor to Albastashe). Serves every purpose: 
long road, fast road, light (unloaded) touring. Allows you to stretch out 
or sit up as you want, with multiple hand positions. No switching 
necessary. Remember, road levers and mountain levers require different 
brake cable ends. Too much wrenching, not enough riding.
On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:58:02 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Well in the last year I changed from Albatross bars to Zipp XPLR 70 drop 
> bars and a "simple" swap would only be possible if :
> 1. Using Ritchey/Davinci breakaway cable thingies. 
> 2. Flexible with saddle choice and position. Here's where for me at least 
> doesn't work so good as with a lower drop bar I needed a much more narrow 
> saddle to facilitate the proper hip/leg fucntion that came with it. So 
> right there the idea of a "simple" swap would include a saddle and/or post.
> 3. Flexible with bar/stem choice.  I used the same 130mm stem as my frames 
> already have longer reach forward of the BB than most Riv and stock frames 
> of any brand. Mathiass's image has to be qualified though, as it appears 
> the drop bars imaged are of a longer reach variety, 90-110mm. The bars I 
> use have 70mm reach, and even shorter reach bars are available. You also 
> have to take account of the postion change, and it's not just something 
> that can be quantified by numbers. Even if you need a new stem, it's better 
> that way anyways so you just swap the whole bar/stem setup, if it would be 
> done of course. 
>
> Myself I think most people look and ride too scrunched on their bikes, 
> reagrdless of the angle of their back. Swaps are fine for long term but not 
> so simple for the short term. FWIW, I think most bike fitting "advice" 
> isn't worth much at all, lest it encourage one to try positions for 
> yourself, as you just can't do it on a stationary bike and assume 
> everything will be fine while riding for hours. Don't assume there is only 
> "one" position either. "Be as water" as water(LIFE) can't be contained, 
> constrained or limited in any way. Go "outside the box" of what anyone says 
> in person or in print. The best fit-ter is thy Self. 
>  
> That said, all in all, two bikes set up in their own way are so much 
> easier to just hop on and go as you like. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:07:47 AM UTC-4 Ginz wrote:
>
>> I have a bike that swaps between Nitto Bullmoose and Albatross.  Friction 
>> shifting and mtb-style brake levers makes the swap very easy.  
>>
>> Swapping between flat bar brake levers and drop levers is going to be 
>> more fiddly because you will have to use cable splitters (with mtb levers 
>> you can just slide the cable head out of the lever via the barrel 
>> adjuster's slot provided your cable routing and housing length is similar 
>> for both bars) and you will probably have to adjust the brake cable tension 
>> each time you swap and make sure your brake pad clearence is good.
>>
>> From personal experience, I wouldn't want to swap bars more than once in 
>> a while unless I really had a space limitation and extra time to plan my 
>> rides.  But, of course it can be done.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>> Ginz
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:24:41 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Let me suggest that you get yourself some albastache bars. I think you 
>>> would feel comfortable in all of your scenarios with those handlebars. They 
>>> are the secret weapon in Rivendell's offerings.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-4 erik.s...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

 Answering on the practical side (easily swapping handlebars) rather 
 than the “should I own two bikes” side of things, Russ from Path Less 
 Pedaled did a video a while back on optimizing 1 bike for easy cockpit 
 swaps. Basically using a little Jagwire cable splitting doodad so the 
 cables and housing can mostly stay in place when swapping bars. It makes 
 more sense if your bike has full-length housing, but there may still be 
 some nuggets in there that are helpful.

 https://youtu.be/qj0qOyw_Es8?si=wKDJKxwHhdtKdBg0

 Could be a good in-between option while you’re building up your second 
 bike ;)

 Erik, Philly
 On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:23:08 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote:

> Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike 
> paths/paved/gravel/dirt roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown 
> in. 
> Will suggest the Sam Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I 
> would build it with drops for the long rides but I recently fell in love 
> with albatross bars for upright lazy bike path rides. 
> Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
> inevitable? 
> Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a 
> good combo or is that too much overlap? 
>
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[RBW] For Sale

[Roy Summer]

Claris rear derailleur - new in box $35
MSW cartridge bottom bracket, English thread, 68mm shell, 122.5 spindle - 
new in box $25
50 tooth chain ring, steel, 110 bolt circle - new $15
34 tooth chain ring steel, 110 bolt circle -  ew $15
48 tooth chain ring, Shimano, alloy, 110 bolt circle - used, very 
good/excellent $20
Nitto Technomic stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar - excellent $35
Nitto Pearl stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar - new $50
Nitto Dynamic stem, 110 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bar, titanium stem bolt - 
excellent $55
Truvative seat post, 350mm, 27.2, black - new $35
Aheadset stem, 110 neck, 1”quill, 26.0 bars, silver - excellent $25
Aheadset stem, 90 neck, 1” quill, 26.0 bars, black -  new $25
Shimano 11 speed cassette, 11-25, near new - excellent + $25
All items plus freight. Shipped cheapest way (post office; tracked). 
Discount for multiple purchases. Located in Westchester Co., NY. Check or 
money order. I don’t do Venmo, PayPal or other transfer things. Pictures on 
request.

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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Roy Summer]

Did it once. That was enough. Verrazano was tough at end. Lots of crazies. 
Right of passage for any rider. Remember, it’s a ride not a race. Bring 
extra tubes. Be prepared for rain and chilly weather (My daughter and I 
rode in the wet. Not fun). Ride defensively. Enjoy the sights. As a New 
Yorker, I can say it’s the fastest I’ve ever gone on the BQE (Brooklyn 
Queens Expressway). Have fun.

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
> extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
> colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
> be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
> Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben Weiss: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>
> Say hi if you see us! 
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
>> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
>> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
>> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
>> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>>
>> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
>> won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
>> there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
>> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
>> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>>
>> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Roy Summer]

First, I would love to buy your Ciocc if it was a 52-54 and I didn’t 
already have 5 bikes I ride and 1 to sell (1994/5 Bontrager rebuilt for 
road). Second, although I don’t own a Riv, I do own a mostly original X0-1 
(the precursor to all Rivs). It seems to be the best all around choice as 
it works for fast road riding as well as longer, hillier rides. I think the 
moustache bars combined with lighter road tires (I use Michelins that are 
no longer available, but read on for a suggestion) work really well (other 
bikes are drop bars and I often think X0-1 is best). So, my suggestion 
would be an Appaloosa or Atlantis with Albastache bars, gearing of your 
choice, and, if possible 26” wheels with Panaracer Pasela Protite 26x1.25 
folding tires (light; flat resistant; fast on the road; wide enough for 
light off road/gravel; daughter rides them in NYC). And, yes, I understand 
the color issue and the dual top tube thing. Finally, strip the RB-1. It’s 
not safe. And if you want my Bontrager we can talk (but it won’t fit you 
and your Ciocc won’t fit me, so what’s the use).
On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 8:55:08 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Get a Sam with a 3x9 drive.
> Strong enough to do the riding you want, versatile enough for errands and 
> light touring, and very comfortable.
>
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[RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They Solve?

[Roy Summer]

Long chain stays usually mean a longer wheelbase which means a more 
comfortable ride because you’re not sitting on top of the rear wheel (think 
compact car vs. limo) and less climbing ability as the rider, again, is not 
sitting over the rear wheel. That said, use a lower gear to climb and don’t 
worry about being first in the mountain stages at the TDF. A longer 
wheelbase also generally results in a somewhat slower handling bike ( not 
that it is dangerous, just not twitchy) so leave the long chain stay ride 
home when you do your next crit.
On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 1:50:18 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
wrote:

> Enjoyed reading the thread "Anyone else not a fan of long chainstays?", 
> especially Bill L's explanation of the RBW bike design philosophy.   Seems 
> the prevailing thought is long stays are better for
> upright riding
> single track type trails (vs a Rails to Trails type trail)
>
> I'll just note 2 'facts'
> 1  The vast majority of RBW models (except the Roadeo type frame) use 
> slack STA and HTA which may contribute to the ride effect when coupled with 
> long stays.
> 2.  In the beginning RBW addressed getting the bars higher and adopting a 
> non-racer riding style (back at 45° with hands on hoods), which IMHO were 
> solutions to actual problems.
>
> *So What problem or current deficiency in bike design is Grant solving by 
> using long chain stays*
> Just to bring bikes to market that no one else is building??
> Or do they solve a real problem???
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> FWIW 2 of 3 of my frames have 44 to 45cm chain stays, and 1 has a 43cm 
> chain stay.It's hard to notice a ride difference.
>

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[RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[Roy Summer]

The roller set up doesn’t really reduce friction as the cable rubs the 
roller and the roller turns as well.  The roller guide often moves and 
causes cable issues if you’re not careful moving the bike or loading a 
rack. The first set up (blue bike) should work better as long as you don’t 
make the cable loop too tight. Use Teflon lined housing, stainless cables, 
and a drop of light oil, and you’ll be good to go.
On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 7:28:13 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I currently have the standard cable routing for my rear cantilever brakes. 
> The cable and housing runs up the top low bar onto the seat tube and up and 
> over the seat stay into a cable housing guide off of the seat post binder 
> bolt. See first attached picture.
>
> My question is would there be less friction of having the cable and 
> housing run in the same route as above, except for having it run through a 
> DIA-COMPE 
> center pull cable pulley roller mounted off the the seat binder bolt with a 
> longer seat binder bolt ?  See second attached picture.
>
> What are your thoughts and feedback ?
>
> Would there be any differences ?
>
> Thank-you,
> Kim Hetzel. 
> [image: Nitto S83 Seat post 2mmm.jpg][image: xjeovlzsunac1.jpg]

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