[RBW] Re: FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Zac Terrones]

I sold my atlantis in less than 24hrs. The fact that this is up and you 
have to keep bumping it may be a sign that it's too much. Good luck! 

On Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 7:32:30 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Bump
>
> On Saturday, September 21, 2024 at 4:16:23 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety 
>> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any 
>> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>>
>> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>>
>> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double 
>> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>>
>> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT 
>> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel 
>> skewers.
>>
>> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow 
>> derailleur, Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 
>> crank arm length 165mm.
>>
>> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>>
>> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>>
>> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>>
>> Headset: FSA
>>
>> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork 
>> grips.
>>
>> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>>
>> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>>
>> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight 
>> mounted to marks rack.
>>
>> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>>
>> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The 
>> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>>
>> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb 
>> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I 
>> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as 
>> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up, 
>> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200 
>> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>>
>> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king 
>> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can 
>> discuss an additional price?
>>
>> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for 
>> the $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the 
>> Cycle” in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process 
>> of packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, 
>> it could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping 
>> to Hawaii or Alaska.
>>
>> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check. 
>>
>>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Heron Road Seatpost Size?

[Zac]

Using a little pressure to pry open the seat tube worked — 27.2mm post is 
in.

Max, that's a sweet round-about-town bike!

On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 11:32:30 AM UTC-7 gogou...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry to be late on this but  I can confirm that My Heron Road has a 
> 27.2mm post.
>
> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 9:19:16 PM UTC-4 Zac wrote:
>
>> Can anyone confirm the seat post on their Heron Road is 27.2mm? 
>>
>> According to Sheldon Brown's database, all Heron's use a 27.2 post, but 
>> the one I just tried to install wasn't going in at all. I rode by a shop 
>> and their calipers gave 26.8-9 for both the seat tube and existing seat 
>> post. 
>>
>> The bike is fairly new to me, perhaps the seat tube got pinched at the 
>> top at some point.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Heron Road Seatpost Size?

[Zac]

Thank you all for the helpful comments. This bike is fairly new to me, but 
it does look like the ears at the top of the seat tube are slightly 
pinched, and the previous owner was using a smaller seat post size. I'll 
see if I can carefully pry it open for a 27.2 seat post.

On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 8:52:53 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> I had a severaL great / memorable years working for RS in south central 
> WI. A time and place for everything, right? 
>
> Can confirm some WF issues with seatpins...of course, always smart to keep 
> some old beer can shims handy. And when they're too tight, not so 
> desirable—really scuffs up an otherwise beautiful (and $$$) Nitto bit. 
>
> Jock
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:25 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 8:19:16 PM UTC-5 Zac wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone confirm the seat post on their Heron Road is 27.2mm? 
>>
>> All of the ones made under my watch were 27.2 nominally, but the W'ford 
>> reamer was a bit out of spec and some of them needed 27.4 posts to keep 
>> from slipping. I'm pretty sure the 27.2 spec stayed through the Todd Kuzma 
>> era.
>>
>> The "ears" on the Heron seat clusters will bend inward if the seat post 
>> bolt is over-tightened, which it has to be if you have one of the 27.4 
>> frames. I ended up breaking a seat post bolt because of that. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>
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[RBW] Heron Road Seatpost Size?

[Zac]

Can anyone confirm the seat post on their Heron Road is 27.2mm? 

According to Sheldon Brown's database, all Heron's use a 27.2 post, but the 
one I just tried to install wasn't going in at all. I rode by a shop and 
their calipers gave 26.8-9 for both the seat tube and existing seat post. 

The bike is fairly new to me, perhaps the seat tube got pinched at the top 
at some point.

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[RBW] Touch-up paint

[Zac]

FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had my paint 
color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were shutting down, but 
it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv colors:

Rivendell Atlantis Green
Rivendell Cream
Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
Rivendell Jay's Green
Rivendell Light Blue Met
Rivendell Light Green
Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
Rivendell Roadeo R
Rivendell Roadeo White
Rivendell Sage
Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange

I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles instead of 
glass like I received.
https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196

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[RBW] Re: FS: 53 Atlantis

[Zac Terrones]

Sorry I didn't update this thread. Bike was sold in a day hah. 

On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 12:23:16 PM UTC-7 nca...@gmail.com wrote:

> You've got a message :)
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 3:40:35 AM UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PM'd
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:43:40 PM UTC-8 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Selling my 53 Atlantis. Paul levers and neo-retro brakes, albatross 
>>> bars, mks bear traps, silver cranks. In great condition, dirty in the pic 
>>> but will be cleaned up before you take it! Will be sold without the 
>>> rack/basket, and I'll swap the saddle out for a different b17 that's a 
>>> little newer. 
>>>
>>> Asking for $2200. Would prefer to sell locally in the SF bay area (I'm 
>>> on the peninsula) but would be willing to ship at buyers expense. 
>>>
>>> Feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'm sure there's something 
>>> I missed. 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: NorCal Coast Tour Route Feedback

[Zac]

Hi Stephen,

I did this years ago and had a blast, despite one full day of rain on our 
way to Leggett, which also coincided with stretches along Hwy 101. People 
have different comfort levels regarding riding with traffic, but if—and 
when!—I do this trip again I would probably look for side routes along that 
stretch, say, between Garberville and Leggett; and maybe around Fort Bragg, 
unless folks there have changed their attitude towards bike touring since I 
last rode through. Other than those areas, I have fond memories of weaving 
down Hwy 1 with barely a soul in sight for miles and miles. So I would 
stick to the coast mostly, as in your second itinerary. Also, in my 
experience, many of the roads that head inland in that area are significant 
climbs, have little to no shoulder and lots of twists and turns that some 
drivers like to race through. 

You're gonna love it.

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:38:21 PM UTC-8 Stephen wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> This week I've been fantasizing about a tour route from Eureka to SF that 
> follows the PCH but avoids riding on it as much as possible (within 
> reason). So I've been playing around in rwgps and Gaia Gps maps to make 
> some route drafts, trying to stay close to the coast but choosing alternate 
> roads and dirt roads as much as possible to avoid traffic. 
>
> For the beginning of the route I used part of a Lost Coast tour route that 
> ends and begins in Eureka. As for the end, I've done a fair bit of riding 
> in Marin and have familiarity with the roads and trails up to Sir Francis 
> Drake Road. Will probably make two different route endings, one for east 
> bay and one for SF. (the route draft I have now is for eastbay) 
>
> I was wondering if anyone on the list had experience in the other areas up 
> the coast, or has done a similar ride, or been on any of the roads I've 
> routed or had recommendations? Sometimes you see a road on a map and in 
> reality its private access or washed away. Would appreciate any thoughts or 
> feedback or anybody who wants to nerd out on maps and routemaking.
>
> Playing with the idea of riding this on my appaloosa in April.
>
> ROUTES:
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561107
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561484
>
> Let me know if theres trouble accessing those.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: forthcoming Hillibike "combo" predictions?

[Zac Terrones]

I'm thinking this as well. Didn't they say something about the swooptube 
being hard to do with lugs? They've only done tig frames with swooptubes 
right? Charlie, gus/susie etc. 



On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:42 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a lugged hillibike variation it'll 
> be something more akin the Hunqapillar but with some updated "riv" quality 
> of life improvements. Maybe gus like room for rubber and longer wheelbase. 
> As much as I like swoopy tubes - diamond frames and frame bag capacity is a 
> nice feature for "adventure" bikes. 
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 10:50:12 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I agree with Joe. There isn't. a huge need for a Susie variant when the 
>> Clem L already kind of covers that. 
>>
>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:20:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the 
>>> equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier duty tubes, I feel that the 
>>> Susie/Wolbis side was already adequately covered by like 7 different 
>>> Rivbikes. I've just started trail riding again (after many years) and may 
>>> pop for this new frame if it specs out to my preferences. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:35:53 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike iteration 
 scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or predictions? 
 According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says "lugged, green and dark 
 gold".

 My main questions are:
 Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy / Roscoe Bubbe, or the 
 nice graceful swoopy one like Gus / Susie / Charlie?

 1" threaded or 1-1/8" threadless (like Gus)?

 Heavier tubing (like Gus), or lighter duty (like Susie)?

>>>

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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Zac Terrones]

Atlantis with some 980's that need adjusting. https://ibb.co/BGNrHCy
https://ibb.co/cx3JNTn (posting images on this board is weird)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto 32F Rack weight limit?

[Zac Terrones]

Hey Will thanks! That's exactly what I was after. 

Re: the non published weight limits/tether advice, I wonder if it's because 
of failures that happened? Either way I don't plan to put a ton of weight 
on it. I think it'll be alright. 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:30:26 AM UTC-8 Will M wrote:

> @ Zac: The 32F on my Quickbeam routinely exceeds the 4.4-lb load. I'd go 
> with Analog's 15-lb limit.  As load increases, slow-speed steering 
> weirdness becomes the constraint long before one worries about rack 
> integrity.  Using archive.org, I just took a peak at 
> http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/baggage_racks/20020.html from 
> February 2006 (about the vintage of mine), and see that they did not 
> publish a weight limits nor recommend tether straps back in the day.  When 
> did published limits appear?  Anecdotally... I've walked my 4-year-old (30+ 
> pounds) home from school while she sat backward on the 32F rack (I pushed 
> the bike).  And the similar VO Rando rack has a 12-pound rated limit, tho' 
> it has straight stays to the fork blade eyelets.  
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:40:54 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I always thought it goofy also to buy a tiny rack and then put a 
>> big wire basket on top of it and expect it to be stable. Even if one does 
>> it anyway, in "zac's" case with a shallow head tube frame, the 32f is poor 
>> choice as it has no adjustability in any way to get it close-r to the head 
>> tube. While a M 18 or Marks rack would offer that, more platform and 
>> relative strength is called for here. The Soma/VO Porteur racks are fully 
>> adjustable and there's no concern with loads. The VO includes a platform 
>> fence, no cheap wire basket needed. How the bike may feel/handle, well 
>> that's a separate story.
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:43:54 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> this has been discussed many times before.  in this age of litigation, 
>>> nitto has always been conservative with their weight ratings, but we're all 
>>> adults and have to make our own decisions.  that said, and keep in mind 
>>> this comes from someone thats been running a nitto mini front for over 10 
>>> years with a basket, you can get away with more weight.  now even i would 
>>> say, if your plan is to bring back 15-20 lbs of whatever often, then thats 
>>> not a good idea (imo), but for occasional heavy loads, its fine.  
>>>
>>> my bigger issue with this combo is i think the smaller racks are not 
>>> wide enough of a platform for stability to secure a basket.  i recently 
>>> switched to a nitto/simworks obento rack and its been a little more 
>>> stable.   
>>>
>>> you don't mention what bike you are planning for this, but if its a 
>>> rivendell, most of them do not steer well with a heavy front load, which is 
>>> another reason to keep it light.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:18:23 PM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The pass and stow is nice but im going for something lighter that 
>>>> hopefully sits closer to the headtube. having the load out in front of the 
>>>> axle like that feels too sloppy for me. I think im gonna try the 32f with 
>>>> a 
>>>> beefy strap and just not go too crazy on the load. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is why I’ve just opted for the five rail rack from Pass & Stow: 
>>>>> 25lbs or less suggested, rated to 50lbs, and can handle 200lbs. I’ll 
>>>>> *never* need all that it can offer tbh.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 4:57:20 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is why Riv got Nitto to make a Basket Rack. They kinda backed 
>>>>>> themselves into a world of riders putting big loads in a big basket on a 
>>>>>> little rack on the if-the-wheel-locks-up-things-get-ugly-fast end of the 
>>>>>> bike and...you don't want that. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried it, I hated the way it affected the steering, I run most of 
>>>>>> my load on the back now. My recommendation is to keep basket loads in 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> range of weight you would normally allow a bar bag to run. And use that 
>>&

Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto 32F Rack weight limit?

[Zac Terrones]

The pass and stow is nice but im going for something lighter that hopefully 
sits closer to the headtube. having the load out in front of the axle like 
that feels too sloppy for me. I think im gonna try the 32f with a beefy 
strap and just not go too crazy on the load. 

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> This is why I’ve just opted for the five rail rack from Pass & Stow: 25lbs 
> or less suggested, rated to 50lbs, and can handle 200lbs. I’ll *never* 
> need all that it can offer tbh.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 4:57:20 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> This is why Riv got Nitto to make a Basket Rack. They kinda backed 
>> themselves into a world of riders putting big loads in a big basket on a 
>> little rack on the if-the-wheel-locks-up-things-get-ugly-fast end of the 
>> bike and...you don't want that. 
>>
>> I tried it, I hated the way it affected the steering, I run most of my 
>> load on the back now. My recommendation is to keep basket loads in the 
>> range of weight you would normally allow a bar bag to run. And use that 
>> strap. 
>>
>> Joe "safer than sorry" Bernard 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 3:45:22 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I've never used a rack that wasn't stronger than the M5 stainless steel 
>>> screws attaching it to the bike.
>>>
>>> Years ago Riv said don't put baskets on this rack. With all sorts of 
>>> wink wink caveats and the advice to always put a strap around your 
>>> rack/basket to your handlebar. 
>>> From memory, Nitto had a lot of issues with the 32f because wald baskets 
>>> allowed too much leverage on the crown brace and it would fatigue fail. So 
>>> not really a weight problem but a torque, use case problem. Front racks 
>>> failing, falling into front wheels is very serious accident bad, something 
>>> a company would want to legally distance itself from.
>>>
>>> I have never had a Nitto rack come even close to failing and I've put 
>>> crazy stupid weights on most of them.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Nitto 32F Rack weight limit?

[Zac Terrones]

Looks like a lot of the sites say 4.4lbs. Are they saying that just to be 
safe? Analog says 15lbs and if you're gonna go over to use a voile strap. 
Has anyone tested this? Anyone pushing that 4.4lb limit regularly? 

I want to throw a basket on it for grocery shopping. The soma rack I have 
now attaches to the lower fork mounts but because of the headtube angle the 
rack sits pretty far away from the headtube and a heavy load feels sloppy 
way out there. 

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[RBW] Re: San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Zac Terrones]

into it. 31st or 1st works for me if it gets nailed down. 

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 8:08:17 PM UTC-8 Jay P wrote:

> I'd also appreciate the invitation for Bay Area rides and to meet some of 
> yous
>
> Jay P
>
> Marin
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:16:48 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Hey all! I know that it’s been a bit wet & cold, but I’d love to see if 
>> anyone would want to have a little ride in the coming week(s). Perhaps even 
>> a New Year’s day ride to celebrate in the new year in style?
>>
>> I’m in the City proper and was thinking about some mixed terrain around 
>> town while keeping it mostly road-ish so that no one’s limited by the ride 
>> route. Pastries + hot drinks + more snacks?
>>
>> I’d love to hear from anyone interested or even connect with other 
>> like-minded people for more than just a one-off ride. 💕
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hecho Where?

[Zac Terrones]

I believe that is what's referred to as "a joke" 

I could be wrong though...

On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 7:18:04 AM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just looked at the last Sackville bag I purchased. It's probably over a 
> year old by now, and it says Made in USA. But I like the hecho. Fits right 
> in with Rivendell's quirkiness!
> Christine in Florida
>
> On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:11:07 AM UTC-4 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
> PA wrote:
>
>> I've always liked the Made in USA labels on Sackville products, and 
>> support many companies who try to support US-based businesses. Not easy 
>> these days. I'm not anti-non-US made stuff, but I try to be aware. 
>>
>> A recent purchase of a Kangaroo pouch came to me with a variation on the 
>> label - now it says "Hecho in Connecticut". (Shouldn't it be Hecho *en* 
>> Connecticut?)  I get narrowing things down the the state where it is made, 
>> but why the Hecho part? When did that start?  Not a deal breaker, but I 
>> prefer the simplicity of "Made in USA". 
>>
>> Marty
>> Laget in Minnesota
>>
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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[Zac Terrones]

I'm originally from Arroyo Grande but moved to the Bay Area before I really 
got into riding. These photos are making me homesick and now I really want 
to take a trip down to go hit some trails on my Sam. Where are y'all 
usually riding? 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:59:38 AM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Laing,
>
> The Volkswagen is from 1958, so post barndoor (3/50 thru 3/55) but still 
> "early" but most standards.
>
> Thanks for taking notice.
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-7 Miles wrote:
>
>> Really good stuff Ariel! Lets get some rides in soon!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:24:05 AM UTC-7 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Been meaning to post some pictures of our rides on film from the last 
>>> year. Our first year living and running our own business in San Luis Obispo 
>>> has been busy and hasn't awarded as much time to ride as we would like, but 
>>> I am always thankful when we do make it out.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone is having a good week! I'd love to see some of your film 
>>> pictures from rides!
>>>
>>> (All photos are taken on my Chinon 3001, a point and shoot SLR from the 
>>> late 1980s/early 1990s). 
>>>
>>> [image: 85730014.jpeg]
>>> Spring, 2021. Modesto, California. This one is from Easter weekend 2021 
>>> when we picked up the Platy at Riv HQ! We waited patiently until we got the 
>>> green light to come pick it up, and as always had such a nice time seeing 
>>> our Riv employee friends! 
>>>
>>> [image: 04180001.jpeg]
>>> Autumn, 2021. Berkeley, California. The last photo of Jared's Hunq 
>>> before he and Alex stripped down their bikes and traded frames. 
>>> [image: 04180004.jpeg]
>>> The next morning before the mixte family went on their first ride.
>>> [image: 04180009.jpeg]
>>> First ride to the GF bakery in Oakland with the Cheviot! Jared is in a 
>>> position I often do when bombing hills. It makes me feel like I'm flying 
>>> and plays into the whimsical nature of riding a Rivendell. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Tosco or Albatross bars

[Zac Terrones]

Anyone have a 25.4 set they'd be willing to part with? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Clem L complete

[Zac Terrones]

pm sent

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-7 Marc R wrote:

> Purchased new (2016) from RBW, ridden around town only.
> I bought a larger size so am selling this one.
>
> Standard Riv build, mustard color, with:
> Rene Hearse Switchback Hill tires
> SKS fenders
> Wald Clem Bosco Basket
> $1600
>
> prefer local (NorCal) sale
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
> Davis, CA
>
> [image: IMG_0253.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Which bolt for a rack?

[Zac Terrones]

Trying to install a rack on my Hillborne and I don't have the bolt to 
attach the support to the fork crown. Anyone know offhand what size the 
bolt is? Thanks y'all! 

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Re: [RBW] I Wish I Were...

[Zac Terrones]

Ah yeah that's rad. I originally thought it was made out of a serape 
blanket and I got excited hah

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:08:29 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> My hands-down favorite bag of this type is from Revelate Designs:
>
>
> https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/cockpit/MountainFeedbag
>
> I generally use it to carry a camera so I can grab it and shoot on the fly.
>
> Killer feature on this bag is the one-handed loose/tight adjustment. It 
> only takes one hand to loosen or tighten the cinch at the top of the bag. 
> Chrome makes a similar bag, but it requires two hands to loosen it, which 
> is a pain when you’re riding. The Etsy bag looks like it requires two hands 
> to open it (but only one to tighten).
>
> OTOH, the Etsy bag is certainly more colorful!
>
> --Eric “Never Rides No Hands” Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> Nice folks on etsy - 
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/861259964/day-tripper-cockpit-bicycle-bag-give?ref=yr_purchases
>
> Price was great too.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:19:24 PM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> love the stem bag! where'd you get it? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 10:50:16 AM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't know that was still around.  Dates back to the 50s.  Maybe they 
>>> use the same preservatives on the vehicle as in the hotdogs.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 Thanks for the chuckle. 
 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:24:05 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> ...an Oscar Mayer Weiner
> That is what I truly wish to be
> Cause if I were a oscar mayer weiner
> Everyone would be in love
> Oh everyone would be in love
> Everyone would be in love with me
>
> [image: PXL_20210330_153846291.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20210330_153908812.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Albatross bar

[Zac Terrones]

shoot me a pm if that falls though!

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:59:57 AM UTC-7 Eric Karnes wrote:

> Sale pending...
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 10:42:49 AM UTC-4 Joe M. wrote:
>
>> Sent you an email.
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 5:04:31 PM UTC-7 Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all. I have an Albatross bar that needs a new home. It's the 
>>> heat-treated aluminum version (B352AA), and other than some tape adhesive 
>>> (which I will clean off), it's in great shape. Only used a single season. 
>>> Shoot me a PM if interested / PayPal friends and family / $65 shipped Conus 
>>> / $50 if you are in the Baltimore area and want to pick it up.
>>>
>>> *Hopefully this works ok. I haven't posted since Google 'upgraded' 
>>> Groups.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: I Wish I Were...

[Zac Terrones]

love the stem bag! where'd you get it? 

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 10:50:16 AM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> I didn't know that was still around.  Dates back to the 50s.  Maybe they 
> use the same preservatives on the vehicle as in the hotdogs.
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the chuckle. 
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:24:05 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...an Oscar Mayer Weiner
>>> That is what I truly wish to be
>>> Cause if I were a oscar mayer weiner
>>> Everyone would be in love
>>> Oh everyone would be in love
>>> Everyone would be in love with me
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210330_153846291.jpg]
>>> [image: PXL_20210330_153908812.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 J'Appaloosa

[Zac Terrones]

Loved that color on the platy. The pics from blue lug made me fall in love 
with it. I hope it doesn't end up on the appa cause I really don't need to 
be buying a new bike for a while! hah

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:21:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Given the new website and generally tech-unsavvy nature of Riv, I wouldn't 
> be surprised if those tubes were meant for the Platy page and we're 
> imagining a Joe that doesn't exist :D  But just as likely it's a new 
> cross-model introduction colour! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Spring Break MTB Ride on a Susie

[Zac Terrones]

i think it's this bar

https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/juan-martin-bar

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:26:47 PM UTC-7 Ed Fausto wrote:

> Thanks Justin for the video :-)
> Would you know what handlebars he used for his Susie?
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:27:21 AM UTC+8 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Not my video, but I don't think Tin is on here so I'm sharing on his 
>> behalf. Fun video from this past Sunday's mostly singletrack ride in 
>> Connecticut on his new Susie. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-25 at 1.23.32 PM.png]
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFM2o5Hl584
>>
>> More pics of his set up here:  
>> https://www.instagram.com/elevator_to_hell/
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Chest (effectively new) - lower price bump

[Zac Terrones]

Any differences from the zeitgeist? 
https://builtbyswift.com/shop/zeitgeist-bag-2021/

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> $200 plus $20 to ship.
>
> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> So this is a large Fabio's Chest saddle bag or handlebar bag . I bought 
>> it, and never mounted it on a bike. It's been in my basement on a shelf. 
>>
>> I don't believe he called it "Fabio's Chest" when I bought it. If it was 
>> called that, it doesn't say it on the bag, (which I think might be better 
>> than having a bag that says "Fabio's Chest.") It's a matter of taste.
>>
>> The bag was made by Swift. It's huge, and does a lot of things.
>>
>> Here's a video about it.  There are others.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>>
>> Here's photos.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/h9yXAV3dswP3oNRb6
>>
>> Price is $230, plus $20 to ship. It requires a big box.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1st NBD

[Zac Terrones]

lugged steel i hope...

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 7:15:37 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> happy new bike day! tailwinds to you both... those were great days with my 
> kids when they were little. (it's even better now when they can ride 
> longer/further.)
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:27:00 AM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_20210303_124128.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Building a Sam Hillborne

[Zac Terrones]

@velomann (i have no idea how to quote reply on this forum)

On the Sam that Riv built for me the bar ends are grey and I'm running a 
double just fine. 

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 12:05:56 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote:

> A small note of caution regarding 9-speed DA bar-end shifters and triple 
> cranks. I have 3 or 4 pairs and I learned through trial and error that 
> there are sets designed for a double crank and sets designed for a triple. 
> The triple has, I believe, a gray plastic collar, while the double is 
> black. The left gray shifter has more throw than the black one. 
> If anyone out there knows differently, please chime in.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:19:02 AM UTC-8 lug...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Collin.
>> I am not sure if your questions were just rhetorical but I'll reply 
>> anyway.
>> 1. the SH doesn't have to be like anything else I own (which are mostly 
>> vintage steel with either 6S DT shifting or 8S STI "Click" shifting) but I 
>> do generally prefer drop bars for all kinds of riding - city, country, 
>> paved, gravel
>> I have several Bike Friday folding bikes for instance and while many BF 
>> owners have and prefer flat or "H" style bars, I always seem to want drops. 
>> though I only ever ride on the top flats and upper corners (75%) or (25% on 
>> the brake hoods)
>> 2. Rrides will be day trips 2h+ on country roads, many paved, some packed 
>> gravel. (Though we have converted rail trails around here too. too rough 
>> for my skinny tired bikes. ) Usually unloaded, just for exercise. Never 
>> fully loaded I don't think. Maybe local utility rides with a rear pannier 
>> or a big Carradice saddle bag.
>> 3. Must Have Items? not really. I am not very fussy about my builds. I 
>> usually take 'em as I get 'em and just jump on and ride (i usually don't 
>> even swap out a stem unless it is WAY off my size.)
>>
>> I think I am leaning 9S barend shifters. surprisingly I don't have any 
>> but I have a line on a pair. I've tried  barends on a Bike Friday once and 
>> while many would write them off as low end, I remember finding that build 
>> elegantly simple. And I ride a lot of DT shifter builds and so not being on 
>> the bars all the time does not fuss me.
>>
>> I have a Triple Biopace crankset I might slap on here. TBD.
>> Then I have a LC Deore RD, a variety of Clamp FDs. (I might be narrowing 
>> things down.)
>>
>> WHEELS: One item I don't have and am unfamiliar with are fat tires and 
>> wheels with the wider rims (I assume) that would take 38-50mm tires. I have 
>> dozens of wheels sets but will with fairly narrow traditional road rims for 
>> 23 to 28mm max tires. So there I will have to do some research.
>> Similarly I am unfamiliar with 650 wheels and tires. Will a SH take 650 
>> wheels?
>>
>> (I'm sorry to sound so dense about the details of Rivendell bikes. I know 
>> the Rivendell name by reputation of course but I've never had one or 
>> pursued one. This frame though kind of just fell into my lap. at first 
>> glane, when I measured it up as a "59cm" ctc, I wrote it off as too small 
>> for me. Only once I put it on wheels did I realise that the TT was sloping 
>> and so this was actually the largest SH frame they made and measured about 
>> a 65cm Eff ST. and so was my size and so I should try to build it up.)
>>
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> You ask how to build up a bike, and as others have mentioned there are 
>>> many "good" ways to build up a bike and I'd argue there are almost no "bad" 
>>> ways to build a bike, as long as it works (exaggerating a bit, but you get 
>>> my point)! You have loads of parts, so really it seems like you could build 
>>> up just about anything.
>>>
>>> A few questions to get your mental gears turning:
>>> 1. Do you want it to be like your other bikes or something different (to 
>>> take advantage of building from the ground up)?
>>> 2. Whats the typical ride going to be for the bike? Fully loaded on 
>>> rough trails, smooth pavement and a days worth of food, or somewhere in 
>>> between?
>>> 3. Are there any items you MUST include? I ask because sometimes you 
>>> have a really nice pair of _ that you want to use (and you seem to have 
>>> TONS of parts...).
>>>
>>> Personally, I recently converted my Joe to a dirt-drop bar slick 650x50 
>>> bike and LOVE it. 2x9 with friction bar ends are quite fun, but can't say 
>>> they are any better than my 2x11 STI on my 700x38 gravel bike, or the 1x11 
>>> flat bar setup that was on it before. They are all fun and all worth trying 
>>> in my opinion. 
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Collin in Sacramento
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:25:22 AM UTC-8 lug...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have acquired a Sam Hillborne frame. 
 Maybe it's been the long winter. I don't know what. 
 But I am stumped as to how to build it up. (I am ashamed now to realize 
 that while I have owned dozens of bi

[RBW] Re: ISO 700c wheels for my Clem H

[Zac Terrones]

had you seen these? been eyeing them for a couple days...

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/oakland-shimano-sun-rims-speed-wheelset/7271645526.html
On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> I'm putting together a modest Clem build for errands and doggie 
> transport.  Strange how few good options I'm finding FS here in the Bay 
> Area right now. Anyone in possession of an extra set of 700c 100/135 rim 
> brake wheels that they want to part with??
>
> Cheers,
> Brendan in SF
>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[Zac Terrones]

Thanks Paul!

got it here but it looks like they're sold out at the moment 
https://danglesupply.com/collections/accessories/products/spike-patch


On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 4:11:53 PM UTC-8 Paul Richardson wrote:

> zac--
> where did you get that spike patch?!  p.s. nice bike!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 4:30:39 PM UTC-5 ericyue...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> What brakes have folks gone with on their Sams?  This will be the first 
>> time I've built up a bike to spec, so it's new for me to have a choice.   I 
>> prefer cantis aesthetically, but probably can't afford Pauls so was looking 
>> at the Dia Comps.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> These all look so good!  I think I'm starting to visualize the build.  
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Zac Terrones]

Does anyone know where the scans of grant's pics that were recently 
uploaded went?

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 4:24:56 PM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:

> Not to compare...but the Velo Orange site of course does not have the 
> quality to photos that Riv does but 1000% useable and easy to navigate. Why 
> when you are in a category do you have to look down at the bottom of each 
> page to make the screen advance to next page. Why not simply load the whole 
> category worth of items = fiddly. I too appreciate the challenge and hope 
> the new look serves Riv in a way that makes for happy everyone. My first 
> brief look suggests clunky. 
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 4:02:08 PM UTC-8 Chris L wrote:
>
>> The product pages, with some large photos and many small photos is very 
>> unfriendly and if you want to change categories, you have to scroll all the 
>> way back to the top to find the three little lines (which are almost 
>> invisible in those huge b&w images at the top) and click it again.  Maybe 
>> once in the products sections, keep the navigating tree visible?  If 
>> possible.  And make all of the product links the larger size.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 10:56:21 PM UTC-6 Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>
>>> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>>> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
>>> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
>>> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>>>
>>> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
>>> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
>>> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
>>> to the homepage.
>>>
>>> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>>>
>>> Dave Schonenberg
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Cork Grips

[Zac Terrones]

Building a grocery getter and I'm looking to buy some of the normal 
(non-bar end shfiter) cork grips. They're sold out on the riv site and 
analog so I figured I'd post here. If anyone has a set laying around let me 
know! 

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[RBW] Re: Not a Riv but...

[Zac Terrones]

Love it! Where'd you get the cork grips? Been waiting for the ones riv 
carries to come back in stock but it's been a while. Also, agreed on that 
grey, so good!

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 9:21:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> After;
>
> [image: PXL_20210124_165847266.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20210124_165535577.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 11:20:45 AM UTC-6 Philip Barrett wrote:
>
>> ...certainly inspired by one! 
>>
>> $160 buy from Craigslist. Before;
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210110_235059925.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Blue Hillborne pics?

[Zac Terrones]

Anyone want to share their blue Sam pics? I just got a blue frame and I'm 
looking for some inspiration!

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[RBW] FS: 650b Wheelset

[Zac Stanley]

Pacenti SL 23//Shimano 105, 32 Hole, 3x w/ Sapim Laser spokes (2.0/1.8/2.0)

Handbuilt by me,  a certifified DT swiss wheelbuilder.

Less than 500 miles.

Also include Col De La Vie 38c tires + a brand new Soma B-Line tire.

$300 + shipping

Pics here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/garycaribou/26152159811/in/dateposted-public/

Thanks for looking.

Zac in Novato, CA

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[RBW] WTB: 55cm Roadeo

[Zac Stanley]

Preferably with a threadless steerer tube.

Anyone holding?

Thanks,
Zac in Novato

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[RBW] FS: 49cm 650b Bleriot ~ Stock Riv Build

[Zac Stanley]

Hi Folks-
Putting  a feeler out there. My wife has a VG+++ condition 650 Bleriot. It
has less than 500 miles on it. These pics from when it was brand new.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garycaribou/2420968705/in/set-72157603637508250

It's now set up with Albatross bars, though the Noodles will be included.
Also, it will include brand new Schwalbe 650bx42 tires.

$1400 obo.

Please make us a reasonable offer and email with questions. Located in the
SF bay area but willing to ship.

Thanks,
Zac in El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!

[Zac]

Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called
the "Presidio". It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very
similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes.

Zac

On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still
> made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb.
>
> Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding
> fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with
> lugs.
>
> ~mike
>
> On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree  wrote:
>
> > Hi all:
>
> > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes.  Trek has
> > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was
> > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention
> > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders,
> > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires.
>
> > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing
> > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out.  The bike comes with
> > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the
> > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes.  I put in my
> > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any
> > problem.  Interesting take on a racer.  I imagine that there was some
> > Rivendell influence there.
>
> > Jay
> > Demarest, NJ

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[RBW] FS: Bob Jackson Special Tourist Complete

[Zac]

Sorry for the cross post.

I've officially decided to sell this bike. It just needs to be ridden
more. Will entertain trade offers for high end cx bikes or partial
trade for a 54cm LHT.

Re-painted and decaled in 2008 by Ed Litton. 55cm seat tube and 56cm
top tube. Fully appointed touring bike with rack/fender braze-ons
front and rear.

Here's the build list.

Frame/Fork - Lugged Reynolds 631
Headset - Ultegra
Brakes/Levers - Tektro CR-720 / Campagnolo C-Record
Shifters - 9 Speed Dura Ace
Handlebars - Nitto Noodle 44cm
Stem - Nitto Technomic - 9cm
Bar Tape - Brooks Leather
Front Rack - Nitto M-12
Seatpost - Nitto Crystal Fellow
Crankset - Sugino AT 170mm, 50/36/26
Wheelset - Mavic A319 32 Hole Laced to Deore LX Hubs
BB - Shimano UN54 127mm
RD - XT
FD - Ultegra
Tires - Panaracer Pasela 28mm and 32mm (two pair)
Pedals - MKS Road
Fenders - SKS Cromo Plastic
Taillight - Spanninga Fender Mounted / battery operated,
Rivendell Baggins Lil' Loafer Front Bag

I also have a Nitto Big Rack rear that I might consider throwing in.

$2K.

Pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/garycaribou/sets/72157625231548751/

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[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

[Zac]

Sorry, thanks to Marty for linking to us.

On Sep 15, 11:39 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Speaking of which, anyone see this new Cyclofiend Working Bike entry:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2009/wb112-cooperdragonette0909.html
>
> Not sure if Cooper visits the board here.  If so, along with saying
> what a great bike this turned out to be, I want to point out that the
> 'Brooks style" saddle appears to be a very nice Ideale and as such
> probably has collectible value.
>
> On Sep 14, 6:02 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
> > ...and some bidders probably think so:
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230374249630&ssPag...
>
> > (I was one of those bidders and wouldn't go that high. Maybe I would have 
> > if I didn't have stout bikes already. But that is a really nice frame.)
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[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

[Zac]

Hi-
Yeah, I'm an admin for the Nub City Wheelsters, MTB converted to
touring rig group. My pal Jake converted his old Rockhopper to a
loaded touring rig last summer and this group was born out of his
experience. Thanks to Jim T. for linking to us. Come one come all!

Here's my stumpy, or Nubster as we refer to them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garycaribou/3019651239/in/pool-1058...@n23

Cheers,
Zac Stanley

On Sep 15, 11:39 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Speaking of which, anyone see this new Cyclofiend Working Bike entry:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2009/wb112-cooperdragonette0909.html
>
> Not sure if Cooper visits the board here.  If so, along with saying
> what a great bike this turned out to be, I want to point out that the
> 'Brooks style" saddle appears to be a very nice Ideale and as such
> probably has collectible value.
>
> On Sep 14, 6:02 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
> > ...and some bidders probably think so:
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230374249630&ssPag...
>
> > (I was one of those bidders and wouldn't go that high. Maybe I would have 
> > if I didn't have stout bikes already. But that is a really nice frame.)
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[RBW] Re: low Q triple?

[Zac]

the sugino at from the 80's is a great low q crank!

On Mar 26, 11:49 am, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> Are there any low Q triple cranksets out there, besides Chico Gino's
> TA?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3352703418/sizes/l/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: Shop in SF? Need response ASAP

[Zac]

I actually really love San Francisco Cyclery on Stanyan.

http://www.sanfranciscocyclery.com/

Good mix of racey, bob-ish and commuter stuff. Really nice, helpful
staff.

My brother bought a Surly LHT there and I a very nice ibex wool
jersey.

Zac



Mike wrote:
> I think you mean UCSF right? In the sunset? If so, although it's at
> the beach, The Bike Nook. http://www.bikenook.com/
>
> I liked the Freewheel location in the Western Addition, by USF, more
> than the Mission location.
>
> I also like City Cycle although I think it's changed since Clay's
> passing--http://www.citycycle.com/index.htm
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Re: Shop in SF? Need response ASAP

[Zac]

I actually really love San Francisco Cyclery on Stanyan.

http://www.sanfranciscocyclery.com/

Good mix of racey, bob-ish and commuter stuff. Really nice, helpful
staff.

My brother bought a Surly LHT there and I a very nice ibex wool
jersey.

Zac



Mike wrote:
> I think you mean UCSF right? In the sunset? If so, although it's at
> the beach, The Bike Nook. http://www.bikenook.com/
>
> I liked the Freewheel location in the Western Addition, by USF, more
> than the Mission location.
>
> I also like City Cycle although I think it's changed since Clay's
> passing--http://www.citycycle.com/index.htm
>
> --mike
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