Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar

[djbardwil]

Beautiful build and great color scheme - best of luck with it!  I am the 
same PBH and recently put a similar Brooks Cambium on my Atlantis and rode 
it in the NYC 5 Boro Tour this weekend.  I'd like to hear your experience 
once you've had some time on it.

By the way - except for the saddle, is that not your new bike on the BLUG?



On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:01:56 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Love the color, good call on that one! I think going down a size on 
> off-road bikes is a good call. I've put the downhill foot down on an 
> off-camber trail once too many times on a full-framed bike.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hunqa-Hunqa burnin' love  wow!!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 3:10:56 PM UTC-4, DS wrote:
>>
>>> Just picked up my new Hunqapillar yesterday from RBW: 
>>> http://imgur.com/a/hkcZf
>>>
>>> Ordered this guy in late January, beat the 4.5 month wait time by 1/3.
>>>
>>> Took it for a 10 mile spin around Oakland (paved), hoping to do a longer 
>>> 'inaugural' ride this weekend on some dirt, but could be a few weeks due to 
>>> some upcoming travel.
>>>
>>> Love the handlebar setup. I was super hesitant about it and made a few 
>>> posts, but mostly followed Patrick's advice (thanks Patrick!). The real 
>>> test will be on the trails. I'm coming from 10 years of road riding with 
>>> very little trail riding experience, I did about a dozen mountain bike 
>>> rides last year on a Salsa El Mariachi (which I Iater sold). Wish me luck. 
>>> Hope to make it out to China Camp July 12 if there is room.
>>>
>>> Better ride report coming when I hit the trails.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

[djbardwil]

Congratulations on the new Quickbeam.  

Some folks told me when I bought mine in February that it might become my 
favorite ride and it certainly has become that.  My gearing is for (mostly) 
flat roads with an occasional hill and I settled on a 46t ring and an 18t 
White Industries freewheel equating to 66" gearing.  While that won't cut 
it for your style of riding, the thing to consider is the means of finding 
good gearing.  I used my 24 speed Atlantis and started with the top ring 
(46t) and worked to find the best all around rear cog (18t) and tried a 
ride, no shifting allowed, until I found the best gearing for the use I had 
in mind.  I also have a fixed gear on the flip flop hub at 19t - I tried it 
briefly and it is definitely different.  I put it back to the 18t freewheel 
and there it remains for now.

It is an awesome change of pace - enjoy it!

On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:26:07 PM UTC-4, M D Smith wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:59:07 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Trail: definitely SS. Dirt road, I will likely play with fixed. Dos Enos 
>> free hubs by White Industries look intriguing.
>>
>>

> To which I reply:
>
> Patrick-  Congrats on the forthcoming new steed!
>
> I am very interested in hearing about your potential experimentation with 
> riding fixed, considering your vertiginous condition.  It always takes me a 
> minute or two for my legs to make the transition from riding free to fixed 
> and I'm curious how it works out for you.  I spent a few years commuting 
> exclusively on a fixed Trek.  Whenever I pulled the All 'Rounder (derailer 
> bike) it always felt to me like something was dragging or rubbing in the 
> drivetrain, slowing it (and me) down until my brain accustomed itself to 
> the lack of inertia "pulling" my feet over the tops of the pedals.
>
> Keep us posted-  (like I have to tell *you* that...)  I'm looking forward 
> to seeing some nice shots in the high country!
>
> Cheers- Mike in much less picturesque Htfd, CT
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

ted - Thanks for the suggestion on the tensioner.  The monkey nuts are 
already coming so we'll see how they work out but I think the tensioner was 
probably a better call.  

Good catch on the Columbine Chain Hanger; I thought it would come in handy 
when I flipped the hub to the flop side.  Other items I forgot to note: 
Nitto Bar Plugs, Tektro R559 Brakes (recessed), Jagwire cable housing - 
sterling silver.

I appreciate the compliment WETH.

On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:57:48 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>
> Looks great. I think I see a chain catcher thing on the stay you left off 
> the inventory, nice touch that's very handy.
> You might consider the mks track chain tensioner as an alternative to the 
> monkey nuts.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

ted - Thanks for the suggestion on the tensioner.  The monkey nuts are 
already coming so we'll see how they work out, and I think they will solve 
a different issue of freewheel rub (which I discovered due to the short 
chain) beside chain tension (which I may discover).

Good catch on the Columbine Chain Hanger; I thought it would come in handy 
when I flipped the hub to the flop side.  Other items I forgot to note: 
Nitto Bar Plugs, Tektro R559 Brakes (recessed), Jagwire cable housing - 
sterling silver.

I appreciate the compliment WETH.


On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:57:48 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>
> Looks great. I think I see a chain catcher thing on the stay you left off 
> the inventory, nice touch that's very handy.
> You might consider the mks track chain tensioner as an alternative to the 
> monkey nuts.

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[RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

[djbardwil]

Attention Manny.now's your chance!  I can no longer feel guilty about 
buying that last 50cm Quickbeam on eBay in February ahead of you!!

This one is very nice and in your area !


On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:56:30 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I call dibs for Manny.  But im traveling and cant figure out how to pm him 
> on my cell phone.  Anyone else...

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Re: [RBW] Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers

[djbardwil]

Erl - 

I've had trunk mounted carriers and roof-rack mounted carriers but last 
year I picked up a 2-bike carrier made by Saris that mounts into my 
Forester's 1 1/4" trunk hitch.  I always felt like the trunk mounted racks 
were flimsy and the roof mounted rack (Yakima) was solid but hoisting the 
bikes on the roof was a chore.  The Saris is well made, sturdy and easy to 
use / adjust and not a bad choice for 2 bikes on a hitch.  The mount has an 
adapter allowing you to use a 2" hitch as well.  

You are looking to accommodate four bikes and I tend to agree that a 2" 
hitch would be more assuring.  Saris is coming out with a four bike mount 
with some nice features that may be worth a wait:

http://www.saris.com/en/bike-racks/vehicle-racks/hitch-racks/freedom-superclamp-4-bike.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=279&category_id=8

Hope that helps.
David

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:07:13 PM UTC-4, Ray Shine wrote:
>
> I use a platform carrier for two adult bikes. I like it a lot. My advice 
> is to absolutely go with a 2"receiver for hauling 4 bikes. That is a lot. 
> also, on a smaller car like the Subaru, consider a riser for the receiver 
> that will lift the rack another 4 to 6 inches. With  a load of bikes 
> sticking that far out in back, you will encounter scraping when driving in 
> and out of pitched driveways into gas stations and elsewhere. the riser 
> will go a long way toward eliminating that. Also, some states will be picky 
> about using any sort of bike cover that obscures the tail lights of the 
> vehicle. A small car like a suaru is one such car that would be problematic 
> in that regard.
>
>
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> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:31 PM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers
>  
> Apologies if this has been discussed in a thread missed by my addled brain 
> and weary eyes.  
> For some upcoming family bike adventures, I am in the market for a hitch 
> mounted bike carrier for my Subaru Forester.  It must hold four (4) 
> adult-size steel-frame bikes most with albatross bars.  I am leaning toward 
> a platform carrier as they seem to hold the bikes further apart and appear 
> easier to load.  They seem to extend further rearward than hanging carriers 
> do.  Also, it appears, from reviews I have read,  that hanging carriers 
> hold one fewer bike than advertised.  Much like a tent comfortably holds 1 
> fewer person than advertised.  So, I would be comparing a 5 bike capacity 
> hanging carrier with a 4 bike capacity platform carrier.
> Am I on or off base with the above?  Any advice or suggestions on hitch 
> mounted racks that can accommodate 4 bikes?  Personal experiences with 
> platform vs hanging?
> As always I appreciate the wisdom and experience of this group.
> Thanks, Erl
> PS: I have a Yakima roof mounted carrier system on my car, but my back 
> dislikes the reach to the roof of the taller Subaru.  
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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

[djbardwil]

ted's advise is sound and it helped formed the basis of my choice on my 
new-to-me 50cm "Mini-beam".  I rode my 650b Sam in the 46/18 combination 
without shifting on my regular route and settled around 66" as a good all 
around gearing.  I ultimately chose a 46t Sugino RD crank with an 18t White 
freewheel on one side, with a 19t fixed gear on the other.  Not having much 
experience with a fixed gear, an easier 62" gearing is what I felt 
comfortable with at this time.



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:34:34 PM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote:
>
> I want to say (and could easily be wrong) that historically Schwinn geared 
> their single-speeds at 65 gear inches. So, I used that as the basis for all 
> of my single-speeds and now fixed gears. To paraphrase Ron Lau, good enough 
> for the newsboy, good enough for me!
>
> Lee
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, ted >wrote:
>
>> Absent a one speed w/ a bag of cogs and rings the best way to see what 
>> gear is right for you is taking carful note of what gear works on a geared 
>> bike. After that adjust for wheel size/roll out, do a bit of math and you 
>> should be real close. It seems to me that whats right depends tremendously 
>> on the rider and after that the surface (i.e. dirt vs pavement). Personally 
>> I go with abt a 70 or 72 inch gear on my Simple One (running Jack Brown 
>> tires).
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid 
>>> 60s is a good thing to try for my "normal" gear.  My climbing gear depends 
>>> on what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at 
>>> it.  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s


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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

The weather cooperated yesterday at 53 degrees and I was able to get out on 
the Sam for my 10 mile loop but this time I kept it in either the 36/14 
combination (66.9") or the 46/18 (66.4") for the trip.  Funny but despite 
the proximity of these two gearings, the 36/14 seemed a little easier from 
a start/stop, and I think I've found a reasonable target (65-66") for my 
first set of rings and cogs.

If I go with the White Track Hubset, which is not quick release, I doubt I 
will be wrenching the hubs to move the chain on a DOS ENO.  In that setup I 
might go with a ENO single freewheel (flip) and add a fixed cog (flop).  A 
crank that really interest me is the IRD Defiant with its classic look and 
single ring.  However, it is a 46t ring / 144 BCD and somewhat limited in 
choice of ring replacement.  IRD recommends a 110mm BB to achieve 42mm 
chainline, but I wonder about the 46t ring clearance of the chainstay.  The 
46t ring and 18t freewheel would duplicate the setup noted earlier.

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 1:49:51 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> White Industries does indeed seem to make great stuff, and since they make 
> what you want you don't need access to other options and being non standard 
> shouldn't present any problems for you. The bottom brackets they do seem 
> interesting too.
> Though perhaps not as pretty the MKS urban pedals are a more affordable 
> option for something sort of similar to the White Industries ones, and of 
> course there are also the GR9 and gR10.
> Strictly speaking the 46-18 on your Sam is not going to be a 69" gear 
> because the roll out on those 650b wheels isn't going to be 27*pi. But it 
> should be a very good simulation of what you would experience on the QB 
> since its also 650B. The only diff would come from the size of the tires 
> you use.
> Good luck with the weather this weekend.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:23:19 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> Two is too many tees - my apologies.  Funny you mention the Sam because I 
>> did just that after I finished the last post.  The Sugino triple on the Sam 
>> with 170 arms has a 46t top ring and in the 18t cog, 69" is achieved.  Not 
>> being in top shape at the end of winter while riding it in a circle in my 
>> basement is not the best test environment.  Tomorrow we may jump to the 50s 
>> so we'll give it a whirl on the street!
>>
>> The White Industries product line seems top notch with great reviews, but 
>> I hear your concern over proprietary rings.  Maybe you pick up an extra, 
>> once you hone in on size, and add it to the pile of "bike stuff I bought 
>> that seemed like a good idea at the time".  The pedals are pricey but 
>> intense!
>>
>> I am lucky to have found the frame and RBWOB to help - bike building 
>> keeps my sanity in check this time of year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:02:22 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Tom is in Philadelphia. I (Ted) am out on the west coast. 
>>> Actually not far from where White Industries is located, and even closer to 
>>> RBW.
>>> Sounds like you are going to have a real White Industries theme going 
>>> there. Should be really great. Though personally I would avoid the 
>>> proprietary non standard rings and fixed cogs, I understand many people 
>>> aren't concerned by that sort of thing.
>>> While you are at it their urban pedals are very cool too, and if you are 
>>> going to experiment with a fixed cog, well some folks think clips and 
>>> straps are a good idea for that. If you do loose the pedals on a fixed gear 
>>> that egg beater down there could be hard on your ankles.
>>> I think you mentioned having a 48 Sam, (which I believe would also have 
>>> 650b wheels) so you can get a good idea what gear you want by noticing what 
>>> you use on your Sam for rolling along in gentle terrain. Like if you have a 
>>> 48-18 combination available on your Sam, that would be fairly close to what 
>>> the 42-16 option gives you (~68 and ~67 respectively). 
>>> It is a lucky man you are to have such a fun project to while away the 
>>> remains of winter with.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 3:54:50 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ted - 
>>>> Another stunner and you are not too far from me in location - I am in 
>>>> central NJ about 45 minutes north of Philadelphia.  I wondered about the 
>>>> longevity of those hubs and its good to hear they can go the distance.
>>>>
>>>> Tom - 
>>>> Choices are endless and I can see why GP speaks of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

The weather cooperated yesterday at 53 degrees and I was able to get out on 
the Sam for my 10 mile loop but this time I kept it in either the 36/14 
combination (66.9") or the 46/18 (66.4") for the trip.  Funny but despite 
the proximity of these two gearings, the 36/14 seemed a little easier from 
a start/stop, and I think I've found a reasonable target (65-66") for my 
first set of rings and cogs.

If I go with the White Track Hubset, which is not quick release, I doubt I 
will be wrenching the hubs to move the chain on a DOS ENO.  In that setup I 
might go with a ENO single freewheel (flip) and add a fixed cog (flop).  A 
crank that really interest me is the IRD Defiant with its classic look and 
single ring.  However, it is a 46t ring / 144 BCD and somewhat limited in 
choice of ring replacement.  IRD recommends a 110mm BB to achieve 42mm 
chainline, but I wonder about the 44t ring clearance of the chainstay.  The 
46t ring and 18t freewheel would duplicate the setup noted earlier.


On Saturday, March 8, 2014 1:49:51 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> White Industries does indeed seem to make great stuff, and since they make 
> what you want you don't need access to other options and being non standard 
> shouldn't present any problems for you. The bottom brackets they do seem 
> interesting too.
> Though perhaps not as pretty the MKS urban pedals are a more affordable 
> option for something sort of similar to the White Industries ones, and of 
> course there are also the GR9 and gR10.
> Strictly speaking the 46-18 on your Sam is not going to be a 69" gear 
> because the roll out on those 650b wheels isn't going to be 27*pi. But it 
> should be a very good simulation of what you would experience on the QB 
> since its also 650B. The only diff would come from the size of the tires 
> you use.
> Good luck with the weather this weekend.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:23:19 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> Two is too many tees - my apologies.  Funny you mention the Sam because I 
>> did just that after I finished the last post.  The Sugino triple on the Sam 
>> with 170 arms has a 46t top ring and in the 18t cog, 69" is achieved.  Not 
>> being in top shape at the end of winter while riding it in a circle in my 
>> basement is not the best test environment.  Tomorrow we may jump to the 50s 
>> so we'll give it a whirl on the street!
>>
>> The White Industries product line seems top notch with great reviews, but 
>> I hear your concern over proprietary rings.  Maybe you pick up an extra, 
>> once you hone in on size, and add it to the pile of "bike stuff I bought 
>> that seemed like a good idea at the time".  The pedals are pricey but 
>> intense!
>>
>> I am lucky to have found the frame and RBWOB to help - bike building 
>> keeps my sanity in check this time of year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:02:22 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Tom is in Philadelphia. I (Ted) am out on the west coast. 
>>> Actually not far from where White Industries is located, and even closer to 
>>> RBW.
>>> Sounds like you are going to have a real White Industries theme going 
>>> there. Should be really great. Though personally I would avoid the 
>>> proprietary non standard rings and fixed cogs, I understand many people 
>>> aren't concerned by that sort of thing.
>>> While you are at it their urban pedals are very cool too, and if you are 
>>> going to experiment with a fixed cog, well some folks think clips and 
>>> straps are a good idea for that. If you do loose the pedals on a fixed gear 
>>> that egg beater down there could be hard on your ankles.
>>> I think you mentioned having a 48 Sam, (which I believe would also have 
>>> 650b wheels) so you can get a good idea what gear you want by noticing what 
>>> you use on your Sam for rolling along in gentle terrain. Like if you have a 
>>> 48-18 combination available on your Sam, that would be fairly close to what 
>>> the 42-16 option gives you (~68 and ~67 respectively). 
>>> It is a lucky man you are to have such a fun project to while away the 
>>> remains of winter with.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 3:54:50 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ted - 
>>>> Another stunner and you are not too far from me in location - I am in 
>>>> central NJ about 45 minutes north of Philadelphia.  I wondered about the 
>>>> longevity of those hubs and its good to hear they can go the distance.
>>>>
>>>> Tom - 
>>>> Choices are endless and I can see why GP speaks of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

Two is too many tees - my apologies.  Funny you mention the Sam because I 
did just that after I finished the last post.  The Sugino triple on the Sam 
with 170 arms has a 46t top ring and in the 18t cog, 69" is achieved.  Not 
being in top shape at the end of winter while riding it in a circle in my 
basement is not the best test environment.  Tomorrow we may jump to the 50s 
so we'll give it a whirl on the street!

The White Industries product line seems top notch with great reviews, but I 
hear your concern over proprietary rings.  Maybe you pick up an extra, once 
you hone in on size, and add it to the pile of "bike stuff I bought that 
seemed like a good idea at the time".  The pedals are pricey but intense!

I am lucky to have found the frame and RBWOB to help - bike building keeps 
my sanity in check this time of year.



On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:02:22 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> I think Tom is in Philadelphia. I (Ted) am out on the west coast. Actually 
> not far from where White Industries is located, and even closer to RBW.
> Sounds like you are going to have a real White Industries theme going 
> there. Should be really great. Though personally I would avoid the 
> proprietary non standard rings and fixed cogs, I understand many people 
> aren't concerned by that sort of thing.
> While you are at it their urban pedals are very cool too, and if you are 
> going to experiment with a fixed cog, well some folks think clips and 
> straps are a good idea for that. If you do loose the pedals on a fixed gear 
> that egg beater down there could be hard on your ankles.
> I think you mentioned having a 48 Sam, (which I believe would also have 
> 650b wheels) so you can get a good idea what gear you want by noticing what 
> you use on your Sam for rolling along in gentle terrain. Like if you have a 
> 48-18 combination available on your Sam, that would be fairly close to what 
> the 42-16 option gives you (~68 and ~67 respectively). 
> It is a lucky man you are to have such a fun project to while away the 
> remains of winter with.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014 3:54:50 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> ted - 
>> Another stunner and you are not too far from me in location - I am in 
>> central NJ about 45 minutes north of Philadelphia.  I wondered about the 
>> longevity of those hubs and its good to hear they can go the distance.
>>
>> Tom - 
>> Choices are endless and I can see why GP speaks of that as an issue.  I 
>> have a bike with 165 and one with 170 but they serve different purposes and 
>> have a different feel.  I do recall seeing a set of 167.5 and would also 
>> consider that  - it just seems like I keep splitting the differences. 
>>  Chainrings are a perfect example46t is common, the QB came with Sugino 
>> 40t / 26t and an 18 tooth cog resulting in a relatively low 39" and 60". 
>>  So I honed in on White Industries' 44t or 42t with a DOS ENO 16/18 or 
>> 17/19 to get mid 60"s to 70"...at the moment.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:34:39 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> I expect the white hubs are very nice. You will want to be sure you get 
>>> the flip/flop fixed/free version if you are going to use a fw (the link you 
>>> gave is for that kind). I expect you noticed that they don't take normal 
>>> fixed cogs like the ones from Soma, EAI, or Surly (including surly's 
>>> Dingle), but that is something to think about. Paul also makes high flange 
>>> track hubs that look nice, though I think their chain line is slightly non 
>>> standard (not that that maters a lot). If you are having your wheels built 
>>> the builder may have good advice on hubs to use.
>>>
>>> Over the years spacing and terminology have changed a bit. Two or three 
>>> decades back a track bike was a fixed gear with no brakes that you rode on 
>>> a velodrome, and a fixed gear was either a track bike with a front brake 
>>> mounted (by drilling the fork crown), or a road bike with a track hub rear 
>>> wheel fitted to it. The old school racing schtick included riding fixed 
>>> gear in the winter. Back then I think most bikes had 120 rear spacing. Then 
>>> came 126 for road bikes, then 130 and 135. Track bikes stayed 120 and I 
>>> think most fixed gear hubs are still 120. If people are starting to 
>>> differentiate "track hubs" from "fixed hubs" based on 120 vs 130 OLD they 
>>> are probably thinking "fixed gear" means adapted road bike (130 being the 
>>> typical non touring road bike spacing now). My view is that a fixed gear 
>>> hub is one t

Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

ted - 
Another stunner and you are not too far from me in location - I am in 
central NJ about 45 minutes north of Philadelphia.  I wondered about the 
longevity of those hubs and its good to hear they can go the distance.

Tom - 
Choices are endless and I can see why GP speaks of that as an issue.  I 
have a bike with 165 and one with 170 but they serve different purposes and 
have a different feel.  I do recall seeing a set of 167.5 and would also 
consider that  - it just seems like I keep splitting the differences. 
 Chainrings are a perfect example46t is common, the QB came with Sugino 
40t / 26t and an 18 tooth cog resulting in a relatively low 39" and 60". 
 So I honed in on White Industries' 44t or 42t with a DOS ENO 16/18 or 
17/19 to get mid 60"s to 70"...at the moment.  




On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:34:39 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> I expect the white hubs are very nice. You will want to be sure you get 
> the flip/flop fixed/free version if you are going to use a fw (the link you 
> gave is for that kind). I expect you noticed that they don't take normal 
> fixed cogs like the ones from Soma, EAI, or Surly (including surly's 
> Dingle), but that is something to think about. Paul also makes high flange 
> track hubs that look nice, though I think their chain line is slightly non 
> standard (not that that maters a lot). If you are having your wheels built 
> the builder may have good advice on hubs to use.
>
> Over the years spacing and terminology have changed a bit. Two or three 
> decades back a track bike was a fixed gear with no brakes that you rode on 
> a velodrome, and a fixed gear was either a track bike with a front brake 
> mounted (by drilling the fork crown), or a road bike with a track hub rear 
> wheel fitted to it. The old school racing schtick included riding fixed 
> gear in the winter. Back then I think most bikes had 120 rear spacing. Then 
> came 126 for road bikes, then 130 and 135. Track bikes stayed 120 and I 
> think most fixed gear hubs are still 120. If people are starting to 
> differentiate "track hubs" from "fixed hubs" based on 120 vs 130 OLD they 
> are probably thinking "fixed gear" means adapted road bike (130 being the 
> typical non touring road bike spacing now). My view is that a fixed gear 
> hub is one that has left handed lock ring threads on it for proper mounting 
> of fixed cogs, that track hubs are fixed gear hubs, and that with all hubs 
> you need to pay attention to OLD and your frames spacing. What with single 
> sided, flip flop fixed-fixed, flip flop fixed-free, proprietary fixed cog 
> mounts, and who knows what all OLDs, its a mine field out there.
>
> On the crank front, at the risk of suggesting too many choices I will 
> mention that there are 167.5 track cranks in the world. Back in the day 
> folks would tell you short cranks are better if you are more of a spinner 
> and long cranks were good if you were a masher. I have a 170 track set that 
> I have had for decades on my Simple One now, and that has always seemed 
> fine. When I bought a bike that came with 165s on it that worked great. I 
> had 172.5 on my "race bike" but eventually went back to 170 and I think I 
> prefer it that way. If I had built my SO up from from scratch with no stuff 
> on hand I probably would have gone with 165 or 167.5. I think you won't 
> know what you like until you try some variations.
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2014 4:26:01 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> Good call on checking the BB ted and I may go to 170 on the crank for the 
>> smidge of leverage gain.  
>>
>> I also found this slick new White Industries Track Hubset which would 
>> mate well with the DOS ENO:  
>> https://www.benscycle.com/p-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspx<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.benscycle.com%2Fp-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspx&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGthDg6vCqdmZcPcTpFwjdadpBdfQ>
>> ?
>>
>> From what I can tell, it seems that Fixed Gear hubs are differentiated 
>> from Track hubs based on rear spacing of 130 vs 120 (the QB span) 
>> respectively.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:33:13 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>>>
>>> All sounds very nice.
>>> Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for 
>>> mtn bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track 
>>> bike.
>>> With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have 
>>> any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using 
>>> standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really a

Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

Good call on checking the BB ted and I may go to 170 on the crank for the 
smidge of leverage gain.  

I also found this slick new White Industries Track Hubset which would mate 
well with the DOS ENO: 
 
https://www.benscycle.com/p-1524-white-industries-track-hubset-fixfree-32h-120mm.aspx?

>From what I can tell, it seems that Fixed Gear hubs are differentiated from 
Track hubs based on rear spacing of 130 vs 120 (the QB span) respectively.  



On Friday, March 7, 2014 12:33:13 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> All sounds very nice.
> Shorter cranks are traditional track gear. Where 175 may be normal for mtn 
> bikes and 170 normal for road bikes, 165 is sort of normal for a track bike.
> With a single ring and normal single speed chain line you shouldn't have 
> any trouble with clearance between the ring and frame. If you are using 
> standard geared bike ring and chain, chain line is not really all that 
> critical. If you do want to get chain line just so, the phil bb and its 
>  two ended adjustment is real handy. Mounting your chosen crank on the bb 
> that came in your frame will let you decide what length bb you want to use. 
> Just measure the line you get with the one thats already there, and adjust 
> accordingly before ordering a new one.
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I 
>> couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), 
>> ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives.
>>
>> And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations 
>> seems:
>>
>> 1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 
>> and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged 
>> being), with choice of 46t or 48t.  Many of you have a lower # of teeth but 
>> I need to start somewhere.  Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen 
>> conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as 
>> possible.
>>
>> 2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own 
>> recommended BB mm.  The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm 
>> BB.  If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 
>> 110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the 
>> frame? 
>>
>> 3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with.  I saw these on Ben's:  
>> https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx
>> They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking 
>> the bank, but i am not wedded to these.
>>
>> 4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes.
>>
>> 5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70".  Again - a good place 
>> to start.  I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills 
>> but nothing too steep.  I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a 
>> quality and versatility perspective.
>>
>> The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other 
>> great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of 
>> mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them.
>>
>> Thank you again for your help!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just 
>>> enough difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>>
>>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
>>> thomas.a...@skadden.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your 
>>>> perspective.  I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another 
>>>> pleasant way to get where I’m going.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Minh
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never 
>>>> bothered shifting to the 26.  I now use a single 42, it may 

Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

I am blocked at work from checking the RBW postings and tonight I found I 
couldn't wait to get home to check - thanks Patrick (dig the shirt much), 
ted, Pudge, David and Minh for your perspectives.

And with that, the order by which to choose components and considerations 
seems:

1) Crankset - single ring makes sense; modest number of teeth, between 40 
and 46; I like the Sugino RD and it comes in 165mm arm (I am a short legged 
being), with choice of 46t or 48t.  Many of you have a lower # of teeth but 
I need to start somewhere.  Not sure of the RD's chainline (i've seen 
conflicting 44 or 42) but as close to the rear hub / cog chainline as 
possible.

2) Bottom bracket - my QB came with a 113mm but each crankset has its own 
recommended BB mm.  The Sugino RD, with 130 BCD, is coupled with a 103mm 
BB.  If I go with Sugino's recommended 103mm, which is lower than Riv's 
110mm general recommendation, must I worry about ring clearance against the 
frame? 

3) Hubs - Not sure which brand to go with.  I saw these on Ben's: 
 https://www.benscycle.com/p-3458-milwaukee-bicycle-co-hubset-32h-fixfree.aspx
They achieve a 42mm chainline and have a classic look without breaking the 
bank, but i am not wedded to these.

4) Rims Velocity Synergy 650b with DT double butted spokes.

5) Cog - with a 46t ring, a 17t cog achieves 70".  Again - a good place to 
start.  I live in an area that is pretty flat with a few rolling hills but 
nothing too steep.  I really like the WI DOS ENO 2-Speed 17/19 from a 
quality and versatility perspective.

The fact that, for a lot of you, the QB is your favorite among many other 
great Rivendells (I have a Custom, Atlantis and Sam) is exciting - each of 
mine serves a different purpose and I never get tired of them.

Thank you again for your help!




On Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have a WI 17/19 on mine, and really like that option. Gives just enough 
> difference at times. But I rarely go to the 32T front chainring. 
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
> thomas.a...@skadden.com > wrote:
>
>>  I agree with Minh that when you’re on a SS, it changes your 
>> perspective.  I just don’t mind walking if the need arises – just another 
>> pleasant way to get where I’m going.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Minh
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:50 PM
>>
>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam
>>
>>  
>>  
>> My QB came with the 40x26, ended up moving it to my SH as i never 
>> bothered shifting to the 26.  I now use a single 42, it may depend on your 
>> terrain, but i can handle hills fine, and those i can't i just get off and 
>> walk, it's not that big a deal.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> i have a WI Dos FW 17/19, and even that i rarely switch.  a single-speed 
>> changes your perspective, it's hard to understand coming from a multi-gear 
>> bike.  i strongly suggest you get the bike rideable as soon as possible and 
>> see what works for you.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> i ride 42/17, i'm not the strongest rider but it works for me!  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> also concur with Tom, QB is my favorite bike in the bunch.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:14:40 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:
>>  
>> The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it 
>> seems that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point.  It 
>> seems that dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for 
>> tinkerers. 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring 
>> typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 
>> ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion?  I'm wondering if a single 
>> crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote:
>>  
>> Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just 
>> right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68" gets me up almost any hill in town (with 
>> some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for "exercise."
>>  
>>
>> Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :)
>>  
>>
>> Esteban
>>  
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
>> On Thur

[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

The more I hear about the fixed gear bicycle experience, the more it seems 
that putting on a 2 speed kickback hub is missing the point.  It seems that 
dialing in on the gearing is half the fun - it's a bike for tinkerers. 

My QB originally had the Sugino XD Double; does the double chainring 
typically get used in both rings or do most just keep it on the larger 40 
ring with the 26 ring for the rare occasion?  I'm wondering if a single 
crank like the Sugino RD with either a 46 or 48 ring is best.




On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 12:48:51 PM UTC-5, Esteban wrote:
>
> Oh, yea. I have a QB too. Had one years ago, too big. This one, just 
> right. 40x16 free 15 fixed. 68" gets me up almost any hill in town (with 
> some zig zag), and I try to spin out on flats for "exercise."
>
> Its a fantastic bike. You'll love it. Everyone should have one :)
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:04:36 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to 
>> about a 72". Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 
>> 44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. 
>>
>> I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that 
>> the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, 
>> and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd 
>> ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. 
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake.
>>>
>>> Minh - You are right on the argument.  Simple and pure is what I want 
>>> with this build as well as a new perspective on riding.  A broadening of 
>>> horizons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried 
>>>> about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both 
>>>> switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front.  if 
>>>> you 
>>>> have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at 
>>>> how fast you adjust to a single gear.
>>>>
>>>> nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but 
>>>> there is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your 
>>>> perspective on riding.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and 
>>>>> admit my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid 
>>>>> came through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the 
>>>>> audience 
>>>>> may have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs. 
>>>>>  It should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and 
>>>>> thoughtfully as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial 
>>>>> thought was to possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> the basis of a wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but 
>>>>> I'll 
>>>>> need to do some homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is 
>>>>> set in stone at the moment and each component will be a new decision 
>>>>> point 
>>>>> but, barring the possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell 
>>>>> build when it's done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
>>>>> camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks -
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

Steve - 
I may have seen a posting of your bike somewhere in my decision process and 
was completely enamored with the look of blue wrapped drops and blackwalls 
- stunning look.  
I have a 48 cm / 650b Sam and it is just perfect.  

Philip - I have a lot to learn with gearing and part of the reason I went 
this route, but I understand a 3:1 ratio is a good place to start.  I am 
not sure what 72" is referring to but have a new research point to dig 
into.  I appreciate your input.

I believe the frame arrives on Monday and I cannot wait to get this project 
underway!

Thanks. 

On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:46:54 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote:
>
> I'm glad you posted, David--I was concerned that the auction didn't 
> mention that this frame is made for 650b wheels, and I was worred that the 
> buyer might not be aware.  Since you're here, though, you probably know 
> that!  
>
> I have a 52cm 650Beam-great little bike..welcome to the club! 
>
> Steve
>
> In its natural habitat:
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, djbardwil 
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
>> my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
>> through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
>> have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
>> should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
>> as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
>> possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
>> wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
>> homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
>> the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
>> possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
>> done.
>>
>> I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
>> camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!
>>
>> Thanks -
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote:
>>>
>>> One day...
>>>>
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake.

Minh - You are right on the argument.  Simple and pure is what I want with 
this build as well as a new perspective on riding.  A broadening of 
horizons







On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
>
> Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about 
> gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching 
> in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front.  if you have the 
> wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast 
> you adjust to a single gear.
>
> nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there 
> is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on 
> riding.
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
>> my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
>> through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
>> have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
>> should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
>> as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
>> possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
>> wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
>> homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
>> the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
>> possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
>> done.
>>
>> I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
>> camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!
>>
>> Thanks -
>> David
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: missed opportunity

[djbardwil]

Manny - 

On one hand, I am really excited to have one the auction.  On the other, I 
feel bad about your note above and leave you with a standing offer that if 
you ever decide to pay a visit to the Garden State, you can certainly use 
the QB to ride while you are here.

One of your signature photos with the vehicle would be more than enough 
compensation!

Best-
David



On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:30:51 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Maybe the shop would take one bike as payment for shipping the other two! 
>  ;-)
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:27:54 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> The seller says that if the winning bidder is not local, the bidder 
>> can arrange for a local bike shop to ship the bikes. Sounds reasonable 
>> to me. The $2250 Buy It Now for all three bikes is a steal. 
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Bill Lindsay  
>> wrote: 
>> > And now there is an ENORMOUS Quickbeam on the 'bay.  It's bundled in a 
>> very 
>> > weird 3-bike auction and is pickup only, so it will take a very 
>> motivated 
>> > Clydesdale to extract this 68cm 'beam from it's home in Ohio. 
>> > 
>> > Beam wrapped in a Bundle 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:16:38 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Mike sent me this. 
>> >> http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=141200519966 
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks again Mike for shattering my dreams. 
>> >> Thanks for that lucky person who bought this small beam. 
>> >> You ruined my hope of owning another classy rivendell. 
>> >> 
>> >> Not that I need another bike... 
>> >> But when do u ever get a chance to own a bike named after one of the 
>> most 
>> >> obscure LOR characters AND in your sidebar! 
>> >> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set.  The 2 
speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two 
about wheelbuilding on this bike.  A dynohub on the front would be neat.

If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to 
hear what should be considered.



On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset 
> they're selling as well?
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil 
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
>> my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
>> through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
>> have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
>> should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
>> as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
>> possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
>> wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
>> homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
>> the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
>> possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
>> done.
>>
>> I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
>> camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!
>>
>> Thanks -
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:52:50 PM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote:
>>>
>>> One day...
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

[djbardwil]

Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my 
addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
done.

I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

Thanks -
David





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> One day...
>>
>>
>>  

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Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Delaware Water Gap trip

[djbardwil]

Darn conflict - NYC 5 Boro Bike Tour is on May 4.  A great experience!





On Friday, November 29, 2013 12:00:10 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Well hey... I'm a reasonable guy...  Early May should be OK.  FYI Mother's 
> Day is Sun May 11, and my daughter's college graduation is May 17-18, so 
> would like to aim for the weekend of May 3-4.  
>
> BB
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:20:11 PM UTC-5, Joan wrote:
>>
>> I vote for early May and having Anne attend would be terrific.
>> Joan 
>>  
>>  
>> On 11/28/13, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>  
>> Early May is also a possibility, Anne... 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:42:27 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going to be in northern NJ in early May, if that timeframe would 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Steve Palincsar 
>>> http://javascript:>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On 11/28/2013 12:13 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>> >
>>> > When?
>>> >
>>> > "... (perhaps in the Spring) ..."
>>> >  "...(in the April timeframe) ..."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I'm definitely interested.
>>> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thanksgiving ride

[djbardwil]

A light ride on Thanksgiving morning before the neighborhood football game 
is something I've done for three years now with my son.  This was the first 
year I could do it on Rivendells and my son set his alarm clock this time! 
 11 miles at 26 degrees in central NJ - a new record!

On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:46:44 AM UTC-5, Bruce Baker wrote:
>
> Little 5 mile ride on the knoxville greenways after turkey day dinner.  39 
> F layered up but was a nice sunny ride. Didn't see any one else out.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:23 AM, cyclotourist 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Short little ride w/ the boy, in which I went OTB riding down some
>> terraced orange groves.
>> D'oh!
>> Scratched up and a sore neck and hand to show for it. No pics to prove
>> it happened though.
>>
>> On 11/28/13, Tom Virgil > wrote:
>> > Did I really say "Mush to do"?  My goodness, I need do do food coma now.
>> >  Laughing at myself.
>> >
>> > On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:47:37 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 13 miles on Sam Hilborne down to Torrey Pines beach.  Mostly beautiful,
>> >> but I did hit a warm rain on the way back through the maple leaves on 
>> the
>> >>
>> >> 56 bikeway.
>> >>
>> >> Mush to do before and after to help Dear Wife.
>> >>
>> >> Louie dealt with a food coma.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2mIRi9ANZmY/UpgqAZ1GV4I/ACE/O4Mjn-UvEKI/s1600/photo+3.JPG
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:51:11 AM UTC-8, Abcyclehank wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 4" snow = 2 hrs shoveling driveway (plow service starts Dec. 1)
>> >>> 27 degree weather
>> >>> Village plowed 5 mile bike path = 30 minute ride on Bombadil with Big
>> >>> Bens
>> >>>
>> >>> Spring Lake, MI
>> >>> Ryan Hankinson
>> >>>
>> >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Delaware Water Gap trip

[djbardwil]

I would love to join as well.

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:07:08 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 11/27/2013 08:05 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>  
>  I love the Gap area, and in fact I rode it a few years ago in early 
> December (it was COLD, and I'm not tough enough for winter camping). While 
> I haven't yet ridden the McDade sections, there are some nice interior NJ 
> routes back to the Gap (via the Paulinskill Valley), including the route 
> Joan, Steve, Pudge & Sons and others followed in the Spring... I'd be happy 
> to share that route with anyone interested. 
>
>  Thrilled to hear there's interest in riding NJ.  I live along the 
> Delaware River, not far from the aforementioned Canal Trail (down in 
> Lambertville, just across from New Hope, PA).  It's an awesome place to 
> live and ride with beautiful trails on both the PA and NJ sides of the 
> river, dirt roads, country lanes, scenic hollows and streams.  Lately I've 
> been thinking of hosting (perhaps in the Spring) a weekend ride in the area 
> (including several covered bridges in Bucks County PA).  There's great 
> history in the area, and the lovely town of Lambertville has fabulous 
> restaurants and pubs.  If anyone is interested in a weekend "Delaware River 
> Rally" (in the April timeframe), I'd be happy to host.  I can even 
> accommodate a handful of guests at my place, and there are several 
> beautiful inns (including the Chimney Hill Estate Inn - 
> http://www.chimneyhillinn.com/), a short 2 minute bike ride away.  *(Just 
> listen to me, I sound like a travel agent)...*
>  
>
> When?
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: Riv in the wild - NJ

[djbardwil]

Very nice custom and color - not too many of us in NJ as far as I can tell.

On Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:51:04 AM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote:
>
> Nice Rivendell seen in NJ - 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/58781331@N07/10669854136/in/photostream/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

[djbardwil]

Wow - 5-10 minutes with a big plier sound like some serious effort - they 
must be strong.

Curious - did it come off clean and leave an unpainted surface spot or was 
it inserted into a hole in the frame?


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:17:12 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 11/07/2013 06:30 PM, djbardwil wrote:
>  
>I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) 
>>> on my Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal 
>>> frame pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the 
>>> bike, not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the 
>>> pump by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
>>>
>>
> However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that 
> "L" shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break?
>  
>
> I had an L shaped pump peg on a frame once and decided to break it off.  
> It took me something like 5-10 minutes with a big pair of pliers to break 
> it off.
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

[djbardwil]

I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my 
Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame 
pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike, 
not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump 
by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
 
However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that "L" 
shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break.

Is this something to be concerned about or not really?

>
>>  

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[RBW] Re: Frame Pump, to strap or not to strap

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>
> I have a standalone "L" shaped pump peg (which is part of the frame) on my 
>> Riv Custom on the underside of the top tube that I mounted a Zefal frame 
>> pump to.  The pump has only come off when I inadvertently lifted the bike, 
>> not realizing the pump was there; no rattles.  I have to compress the pump 
>> by about 3/4" to mount it between the peg and the seat tube.  
>>
>  
However, when I knocked the pump off, it made me wonder how strong that "L" 
shaped peg actually is and whether anyone has ever had one break?

Is this something to ne concerned about?

>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: My New Sam

[djbardwil]

We haven't been out west in a long while and she has a college roommate in 
Palo Alto who would love to see her for once on the other coast. TIming 
would have to coincide with a Betty in stock in her size... 

Now that is an idea!  



On Sunday, July 21, 2013 1:58:20 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> David:
>
> Re:  "Sage advice on the wife strategy - happy wife, happy life.  I am 
> trying to convince her that she NEEDS a Betty but she is satisfied with her 
> Jamis"
>
> Similarly, my wife was perfectly happy with her old Trek 1420 until the 
> stars aligned to put her onto an Atlantis for a test ride.  She agreed to 
> the ride only to humor me & was clear on having no desire for a new bike.  
> She enjoys riding but is not "into" bikes.  After a few minutes spinning 
> around a parking lot, she returned, wide eyed & grinning like a fool, 
> chattering about how unbelievable  the difference was and insisting she had 
> to have this bike.  Now after 3 years she still remarks how much she enjoys 
> the bike, the way it rides and how well it works.
>
> Best of luck with moving her up to a Rivendell.  A vacation that takes in 
> San Francisco, with a day in Walnut Creek & some test rides?  Could be fun.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:03:01 AM UTC-7, djbardwil wrote:
>>
>> Once again - thanks to all for the compliments.
>>
>> Tom - 
>>
>> Sage advice on the wife strategy - happy wife, happy life.  I am trying 
>> to convince her that she NEEDS a Betty but she is satisfied with her Jamis 
>> Commuter 3 and likes the simplicity of its Shimano Nexus 8 speed internal 
>> hub where she can shift without thought, even at a standstill.  Perhaps a 
>> Betty with a special order Rohloff or Alfine could be had from Rich at RBW.
>>
>> Your Sam build is very close to what I have in mind and your Longboard 
>> fender lines look great.  There does not appear to be any stress at the 
>> calipers.  Would you confirm the wheel and tire size?
>>
>> Now...what to do with some original, personalized artwork on a very 
>> large, empty cardboard box.
>>
>> All the best -
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:41:02 AM UTC-4, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>>
>>> djbardwel,
>>>
>>> That is just one sweet build of a Samuel Hillborne.  And I know it rides 
>>> even better than it looks. Love those Albas.   My deal with wife is if I 
>>> get X, she gets 1-2X.  Keep the woman happy.
>>>
>>> Current state of my two month old Sam is On Torrey Pines State 
>>> Beach.<http://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/9332469028/>
>>>
>>> Reid,
>>>
>>> This Rivendell box art is something.  It's not the first mention I have 
>>> seen on this group, but it comes up from time to time.  The Rivendell folks 
>>> seem to put a personal signature on their bicycle cartons (which I found to 
>>> be very good).  
>>>
>>> I originally thought I got a rendition of the "Last Homely House".  That 
>>> was delusional. I do have a rendition of some structure on a palisade or 
>>> some kind of huge tree trunk with a tent on its sod roof. 
>>>
>>> Rivendell Box <http://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/9332467302/>
>>>
>>> Who does this?  They put some effort into this.  I am also wondering if 
>>> Samuel Hillborne is a cat.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:57:07 AM UTC-7, Reid wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Very nice!
>>>>  
>>>> I keep threatening to get an AHH. However, I live so close to Riv HQ, 
>>>> that I would just go and pick up the finished bike. But looking at your 
>>>> pics, I realize that if I did that, I would be missing out on the full Riv 
>>>> experience. So, the question is: Is it worth paying shipping just to get 
>>>> the custom decorated box? I'm sooo confused!
>>>>  
>>>> Reid
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My New Sam

[djbardwil]

Once again - thanks to all for the compliments.

Tom - 

Sage advice on the wife strategy - happy wife, happy life.  I am trying to 
convince her that she NEEDS a Betty but she is satisfied with her Jamis 
Commuter 3 and likes the simplicity of its Shimano Nexus 8 speed internal 
hub where she can shift without thought, even at a standstill.  Perhaps a 
Betty with a special order Rohloff or Alfine could be had from Rich at RBW.

Your Sam build is very close to what I have in mind and your Longboard 
fender lines look great.  There does not appear to be any stress at the 
calipers.  Would you confirm the wheel and tire size?

Now...what to do with some original, personalized artwork on a very large, 
empty cardboard box.

All the best -
David








On Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:41:02 AM UTC-4, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> djbardwel,
>
> That is just one sweet build of a Samuel Hillborne.  And I know it rides 
> even better than it looks. Love those Albas.   My deal with wife is if I 
> get X, she gets 1-2X.  Keep the woman happy.
>
> Current state of my two month old Sam is On Torrey Pines State 
> Beach.
>
> Reid,
>
> This Rivendell box art is something.  It's not the first mention I have 
> seen on this group, but it comes up from time to time.  The Rivendell folks 
> seem to put a personal signature on their bicycle cartons (which I found to 
> be very good).  
>
> I originally thought I got a rendition of the "Last Homely House".  That 
> was delusional. I do have a rendition of some structure on a palisade or 
> some kind of huge tree trunk with a tent on its sod roof. 
>
> Rivendell Box 
>
> Who does this?  They put some effort into this.  I am also wondering if 
> Samuel Hillborne is a cat.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:57:07 AM UTC-7, Reid wrote:
>>
>> Very nice!
>>  
>> I keep threatening to get an AHH. However, I live so close to Riv HQ, 
>> that I would just go and pick up the finished bike. But looking at your 
>> pics, I realize that if I did that, I would be missing out on the full Riv 
>> experience. So, the question is: Is it worth paying shipping just to get 
>> the custom decorated box? I'm sooo confused!
>>  
>> Reid
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: My New Sam

[djbardwil]

We'll see - that will be the first upgrade but I am not sure I want to go 
with SKS Longboards or Chromoplastics based on some of the issues with 
fender lines /  bulging I've seen brought up here.  I am assured by RBW 
that longboards will fit fine.  

Thank you for the compliments.

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:51:22 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
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> Congrats!!
>>
> Thanks for sharing pics. Beautiful!
> Will you have clearance for fenders with the Rumpkins? Just curious. 
>

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[RBW] My New Sam

[djbardwil]

Like most of us I would imagine, I keep lookout on the Rivendell site and 
am also the happy owner of a Custom and an Atlantis.   Both bikes were 
local purchases found through eBay and built-up with the assistance and 
supply from the great folks at Rivendell.  

As of today, I am the proud new owner of my first new (demo) Rivendell - a 
48 cm Sam I had the luck of finding on rivbike.com at the moment it was 
being posted for sale.  First there was a listing with no photo and, 
seconds later, the photo appeared and the price was great.  Having hemmed 
and hawed over a similar 48 cm Hunqa frame months ago and finding it no 
longer listed one day, I acted quickly:  1) pleaded with wife; 2) made some 
promises; 3) called Riv - spoke with Keven (an awesome fellow - promised it 
would be my favorite); 4) made the purchase.

The bike arrived yesterday with the best packing I've ever seen, and the 
first shipped bike I've received that was not damaged in any way. 
 Assembling it was a breeze and interesting to see how the parts were 
assembled in the box, zip-tied, bubble wrapped and foam protected - amazing 
work.   I took my first ride this morning and it was instantly comfortable 
with a wonderful upright position everyone here describes as the benefit to 
the Albas; the seat is a sprung Brooks Flyer (pre-aged) and the tires are 
Fatty Rumpkin 650Bs - smooth and comfortable.

My stable is complete (I promised) - what a great experience!



Links to flickr photos (hopefully no issues with viewing) for you:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327917838/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327917096/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327915888/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327915252/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327913962/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327913342/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/9327912184/in/photostream/



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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

[djbardwil]

I went through the same debate with a Brooks B17 Electric Blue saddle for 
my Atlantis - it matched the lettering outline perfectly.  I added some 
chainstay wrap in blue to touch it off and am very happy with the results. 
If you like it, go for it!  There is no wrong answer in personlizing. 




On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:15:51 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Welcome!
>
> Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can 
> be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the 
> Betty? An upright position has us sitting on the wider part of our sit 
> bones, so saddle width makes a big difference. Aside from that, I haven't 
> an opinion one way or the other. Go for what gives you delight, first to 
> ride, second to look upon.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendells on the NYC 5 Boro Bike Tour

[djbardwil]

I apologize - I reset security so anyone can see.  I'm still getting used 
to the Google posting procedures

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:53:37 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I can see them... and they show in the Riv group pool: 
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/ 
> Looks like the photostream is all private though, as you can't scroll 
> through. But can see individually from link and pool???
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:02 PM, samh >wrote:
>
>> Can confirm. Private.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Rivendells on the NYC 5 Boro Bike Tour

[djbardwil]

My first time at this great event in New York City which took me to places 
I've never seen before, couldn't get to by car and certainly wouldn't get 
there by bike on a normal day (like the Verrazano Bridge).  Over 32,000+ 
riders and I spotted 2 Atlantis (myself included), a Roadeo and what looked 
to be a custom on the side of a bridge belonging to an event coordinator.

Some photos of the day including a pair of Atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8719545316/in/pool-rivendell/

A non-stop photo-op of a Roadeo on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718430299/in/pool-rivendell/

Along with other shots of some pretty well-known NYC landmarks.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718428451/in/pool-rivendell/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718429691/in/pool-64927372@N00/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718429159/in/pool-rivendell/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8719546330/in/pool-64927372@N00/


Enjoy!

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[RBW] NYC 5 Boro Bike Tour

[djbardwil]

My first time at this great event in New York City which took me to places 
I've never seen before, couldn't get to by car and certainly wouldn't get 
there by bike on a normal day (like the Verrazano Bridge).  Over 32,000+ 
riders and I spotted 2 Atlantis (myself included), a Roadeo and what looked 
to be a custom on the side of a bridge belonging to an event coordinator.

Some photos of the day including a pair of Atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718430299/in/pool-rivendell/

A non-stop photo-op of a Roadeo on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718430299/in/pool-rivendell/

Along with other shots of some pretty well-known NYC landmarks.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718428451/in/pool-rivendell/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718429691/in/pool-64927372@N00/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8718429159/in/pool-rivendell/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8719546330/in/pool-64927372@N00/


Enjoy!
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[djbardwil]

Thanks to all for the compliments, and the bag/rack overkill comment made 
me laugh - evoked the image of a small hat on a big head!  That rack is 
there for other duty when other duty calls...

Norman - with any more luck, next year we will meet on the next annual 
Delaware Water Gap trip!  




On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:
>
> Your device has to know you're a member of the Rivendell flicker group (or 
> you have to sign in) to view the photo.  I love the way this bike looks. 
>  Of course, it is very similar to my Hillborne which is painted, with no 
> intent to deceive, the same Atlantis color:  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/8652765924/in/set-72157633249441487. 
>  Shown also in the wilds of New Jersey. 
> Best of luck with the bike, though you already had some of that in finding 
> it,
> Norman  
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
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>> I get that message on my IPad..
>
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[RBW] My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

[djbardwil]

About a month ago, I was scouring the eBay listings and ran across a Nitto 
rack for sale but further in the listing, the owner noted that the Atlantis 
it was attached to was also for sale.  An e-mail or two and a day later I 
found myself in Brooklyn, NY loading up the car with this fantastic bike!   

The owner kept the original Brooks saddle and so I decided to try out the 
"Electric Blue" B17 which was actually a better tone in person than its 
name affords.  Add on the SKS fenders, BM Lighting, some Tressostar blue 
chainstay wrap with hemp ends, and a (simply awesome) Sackville SaddleSack 
XSmall and I have my "holy grail" bike!

I've been riding it as much as possible and pretty much everywhere to test 
out the all-rounder-ness and can confirm it is like no other road bike or 
mountain bike I have ever pedaled.

Some pictures taken today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8678528007/in/pool-rivendell

Enjoy!



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[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Betty Foy New in Box

[djbardwil]

And if it's a 52, please let me know.

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> If its a 58 I'm reinterested!
>
> -J
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[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Betty Foy New in Box

[djbardwil]

Is that the frame only or a complete bicycle and, if the latter, how is it 
built up?

One last question - what part of CT?

Thanks!

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:54:08 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote:
>
>
> Purchased the Betty Foy about a year ago.  I few months after that, a 55cm 
> Yves Gomez in  British racing green with the cream head tube showed up on 
> the Web Special page and you can guess what happen then.  Thus the Betty 
> still sits in the box - I took it out of the box just once to inspect it 
> when I received it.
>
> I just got back from my first semi significant ride on the Yves Gomez and 
> it is a suburb riding bike.  
>
> Anyway, $900 for the Betty and I would prefer a local sale so I don't have 
> to ship although I suspect shipping will probably be necessary
>
> Located in CT
>
> PS:  I also have a never built 52 cm original Rivendell mixte  for sale.  
> $2000 - contact me if interested.
>
> Charlie
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[RBW] Re: Watergap adventure tour

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My wife and I are definitely doing this next year.  That shot is awesome!

Go NJ Rivendells!

On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:53:57 PM UTC-4, Norman wrote:
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> Day 1 group photo
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[RBW] Re: Beautiful 52cm custom on ebay

[djbardwil]

My first post joining this group.  

I purchased this custom Rivendell and am in the process of building my 
dream bike.  I am aware of the potential for toe overlap, have taken quite 
a few measurements, and I believe I may be able to avoid the issue on this 
frame.  The seat tube is 52 cm c-t and the top tube is 54 cm c-c.  Sugino 
XD crank w 165mm arms and 700c Velocity wheels w/ Schwalbe Marathon Racers 
(30mm width) are in the plans, along w MKS AR-2 Quill Pedals and MKS Half 
Clips.  I think this setup will just fit.

I will post again with the (hopefully good) results.

On Monday, January 21, 2013 3:18:23 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice as is, but begs for a 650B conversion:  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200882676560&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> **
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