Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Happy to pay reasonable license fees, in light of demonstrated efficacy of the 
concept!

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On May 2, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Bill Lindsay 
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On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:26:26 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
Maybe I should try the Bill Lindsay approach: Provide the list with a menu of a 
half dozen bikes for sale, first three that sell go, and the survivors get kept.

It certainly worked for Bill, but those were some pretty special bikes!

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> On May 2, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Joe Bernard  
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> Eh, I've had a perfectly normal Appaloosa here for weeks with only one person 
> showing interest (they didn't buy). Sometimes it just takes time for a Riv to 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Bill Lindsay]

"Bill Lindsay Approach" is a registered trademark.  WINK!

Bill Lindsay
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On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 12:26:26 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>
> Maybe I should try the Bill Lindsay approach: Provide the list with a menu 
> of a half dozen bikes for sale, first three that sell go, and the survivors 
> get kept. 
>
> It certainly worked for Bill, but those were some pretty special bikes! 
>
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> > On May 2, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Eh, I've had a perfectly normal Appaloosa here for weeks with only one 
> person showing interest (they didn't buy). Sometimes it just takes time for 
> a Riv to sell. 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Well let me add a different point of view.  I think that the bike is 
stunning and the components very inviting and I don't at all think that 
$3200 is out of line for the bike.  Take a gander into your typical local 
bike shop that carries Specialized or Treks and see what their price tags 
are for some of the carbon bikes.  I understand not comparing apples to 
apples but that is kind of my point.  Just saying what you are getting for 
your money is solid on Pudge's bike, IMO.  Pudge, if the bike had been my 
size I would have bought it several months back when I was trolling for a 
mixte.  (I'm on the list now for the mountain mixte).  Good luck with your 
sale.  Someone should be very happy.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 3:26:26 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
> Maybe I should try the Bill Lindsay approach: Provide the list with a menu 
> of a half dozen bikes for sale, first three that sell go, and the survivors 
> get kept. 
>
> It certainly worked for Bill, but those were some pretty special bikes! 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On May 2, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Eh, I've had a perfectly normal Appaloosa here for weeks with only one 
> person showing interest (they didn't buy). Sometimes it just takes time for 
> a Riv to sell. 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Maybe I should try the Bill Lindsay approach: Provide the list with a menu of a 
half dozen bikes for sale, first three that sell go, and the survivors get kept.

It certainly worked for Bill, but those were some pretty special bikes!

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> On May 2, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Eh, I've had a perfectly normal Appaloosa here for weeks with only one person 
> showing interest (they didn't buy). Sometimes it just takes time for a Riv to 
> sell.
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Drew:

Your diagnosis is doubtless correct -- thanks for the clear-eyed assessment.  
I'm certainly not immune to a spot of self-delusion!

Here's an alternative offer to the list:  frame/fork/headset/bb + brakes + 
cockpit (stem, bars, grips and levers) for $1950 plus actual shipping?

Or make an offer for what you want, folks

Tom

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> On May 2, 2017, at 3:06 PM, drew  wrote:
>
> Beautiful bike. I keep thinking I should buy a Wilbury or some riv step 
> through and just hold on to it for when I can't lift my legs.
>
> I do think it's gonna be hard to sell this way. Super high end, yet unique 
> and enigmatic parts either means you're gonna have to find someone with a lot 
> of extra money, or someone who has your exact taste and wants a bike to be 
> exactly what you wanted this one to be.
>
> I'm in no position on any front to let another bike into my life, but if I 
> was, a green mixte would up there on the list.
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[drew]

Beautiful bike. I keep thinking I should buy a Wilbury or some riv step through 
and just hold on to it for when I can't lift my legs. 

I do think it's gonna be hard to sell this way. Super high end, yet unique and 
enigmatic parts either means you're gonna have to find someone with a lot of 
extra money, or someone who has your exact taste and wants a bike to be exactly 
what you wanted this one to be.

I'm in no position on any front to let another bike into my life, but if I was, 
a green mixte would up there on the list. 

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS -- Rivendell Wilbury 59cm complete bike -- UNIQUE BUILD -- $3200

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Minh:

I know I should part it out for max value, but I just find it hard to break it 
up. Why do the wood rims scare you?   Bikes had wood rims for many decades.  
They ride great, stop fine, and look fantastic.  And they're quite sturdy.

Anyway, I hope the invitation to make offers for less than the whole package 
will generate some activity.

Tom

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On May 2, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Minh 
> wrote:

Tom,

I think most of us would say this is a beautiful build, but it's also 
quintessentially Pudge :)

I love the wood rims, but don't need a show bike so those actually scare me to 
death!

You should get a little more interest if you separate it out.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:19:50 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
OK, sound of crickets since I posted this suggests either (a) the bike is of no 
interest to list members as built, or (b) the price is way too high.

As to the former -- functionally, this bike is like a nearly new, super-fancy 
step through Quickbeam.  It's not for mountainous areas, true, but single 
speeds are FUN in appropriate areas.  It's a great bike.

As to the latter problem, PLEASE feel free to make offers, including aggressive 
offers or offers for less than the complete build -- I'd love to find a list 
member who would give this bike the use it deserves.



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On Apr 30, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) 
 wrote:

Warning: Long email, but the subject line and next paragraph basically say it 
all.

OK, folks, the time has come once again to cull some bikes. First up is my 
essentially new 59 cm Hunter Green Rivendell Wilbury.  Here's a pic:  
https://flic.kr/p/H2Zb8R  There are many others, including a lot of detail 
images, in this album:
https://flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157631845152497

I would prefer to sell this as a complete bike, and to provide some incentive, 
I've set the asking price pretty low, compared to the actual and replacement 
cost of the gorgeous frame and beautiful (and unusual, in some cases unique) 
components.  I'm biased, of course, but I think any buyer who appreciates this 
kind of bike will be thrilled with this unique example.

I bought the frame/fork new from College Park Bicycles in Maryland -- it was in 
the owner's private stash.  As list members know, a frame like this can now 
only be obtained by ordering a custom from Rivendell, at about $3,500 for the 
frameset alone.  This build has about 10 miles on it -- no dings or scratches 
on the frame that I can find anywhere.

I built this bike up from scratch.  It is an unusual, even quirky, build -- a 
single speed drive train, with hand-built wheels using Italian wooden rims.  I 
intentionally set out to make this bike as pretty as I could, with much 
attention to every detail, but don't be deceived -- it is supremely 
comfortable, and great fun to jump on and ride.  Here is a full parts list.  
Except as noted, all parts are NOS.

Frame/fork/headset

Rivendell Wilbury 59cm

Bottom bracket

Shimano

Wheelset


Front hub

Peter Weigle-modified vintage Campagnolo


Front rim

Ghisallo Wooden

36 hole


Spokes

Wheelsmith


Rear hub

White Industries ENO Eccentric


Rear rim

Ghisallo Wooden

36 hole


Rear spokes

Wheelsmith

Tires

Grand Bois Hetres

Red

Freewheel

White Industries ENO

Chain

Wipperman stainless

Crankset

Peter Weigle-modified vintage Stronglight (I think it's a 49D?)

Pedals

MKS rubber block, w/ red rubber blocks subbed in to match the Hetres

Seatpost

Nitto Lugged Post

Saddle

Brooks B-17 Special (hand-hammered copper rivets)

Stem

Nitto Lugged Stem

Handlebars

Nitto Albatross

Grips

Rivendell Cork, shellacked

Brake levers

Tektro vintage-style

Brakes

VO Grand Cru centerpulls

Straddle cable hangers

Herse-style from Compass Cycles

Front bag

Tubular custom plaid bag from Eric Hjeltness

Rear bag

Lunch-bag style plaid bag from Eric Hjeltness


Also included is a beautiful leather wrapped thermos flask from Beg Bicycles in 
the UK, which fits the Nitto bottle cage perfectly, and matches the saddle.

Some pertinent measurements:

Seat tube 60cm
Virtual top tube 59cm
Saddle height as pictured 78cm
Reach (rear of saddle to rear ends of grips) 70cm

I have a PBH of around 87cm, and it fits me like a glove.  Moreover, since it's 
a mixte, the fit is flexible, as standover is not an issue.

I have just about $4,600 invested in this bike, which is essentially brand new. 
 Replacement cost would be an additional $1,700, so around $5,300.  I'm asking 
$3,200.  I'll consider delivery anywhere in the Middle Atlantic states, so if 
you're willing to meet me halfway, no need to ship within a radius of at least 
400 miles of Delaware.  Otherwise, actual shipping cost paid by buyer.

Hit me up if you have