[RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-30 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey, Tom! What are you saying about our "big boned" Clementines? Huh? Huh? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-30 Thread tc
I like the looks of both. But if the Clem is more in your price range, search 
blue lug clem” in Google and tap images. Blue Lug does fantastic photo work 
advertising their bikes in my opinion. And they have great component and 
accessory ideas. There are some beautiful builds there, including Clem-Ls that 
look pretty, well, svelte!  Not all Clem’s have to have to have chunky tires, 
MTB bars...

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
counterpoint: I grew to appreciate the yeoman like work a day style of the tig 
welded Clementine. Mine had just enough flourish, with the seat lug and the 
beautiful fork with the white paint on black to make it lovely. And the name 
and decals, just right. Bigger tires, as someone pointed out. And that swing 
low, much more usable in terms of stepping through the frame. With the Cheviot 
essentially what you're getting is a lower, sloped top tube. With the 
Clementine, no problem stepping through that swoop de doop. I would vote it as 
my favorite Rivendell.

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread lambbo
Cheviot is one of the handsomest most versitile bikes ever made in the 
history of the world. In my humble opinion. 

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 4:21:40 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Oh, i definitely prefer the lugs and I think my wife does as well. And 
> that dark green sage color is very eye-catching.
>
> I wonder about the possibility of finding a used chev or betty?
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>
>> When in doubt, get the one with the lugs (Cheviot). I have a Clementine 
>> and a Betty (and an MMM for that matter). TIG just cannot compare with the 
>> beauty of lugs.
>>
>> Laing
>> Cocoa FL
>>
>> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:21:28 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent point about availability. I'm sure she would be happy with 
>>> either. I am personally leaning more towards the cheviot. But I'll need to 
>>> talk to her and see what she would really like. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:

 I have ridden both models and I say you can’t go wrong. But the Clem L 
 is out of stock pretty much everywhere, and a new batch isn’t arriving 
 until late July. But you can have a Cheviot now!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Ed Carolipio
One other difference is the Clem has the bolt holes on the fork crown, 
which is useful for bracing a front rack (or running a notionally rear rack 
on the front. That might also mean the front fork on the Clem is a little 
beefier than the Cheviot's.

--Ed C.

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Justin Schoop
Oh, i definitely prefer the lugs and I think my wife does as well. And that 
dark green sage color is very eye-catching.

I wonder about the possibility of finding a used chev or betty?

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> When in doubt, get the one with the lugs (Cheviot). I have a Clementine 
> and a Betty (and an MMM for that matter). TIG just cannot compare with the 
> beauty of lugs.
>
> Laing
> Cocoa FL
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:21:28 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
>> Excellent point about availability. I'm sure she would be happy with 
>> either. I am personally leaning more towards the cheviot. But I'll need to 
>> talk to her and see what she would really like. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have ridden both models and I say you can’t go wrong. But the Clem L 
>>> is out of stock pretty much everywhere, and a new batch isn’t arriving 
>>> until late July. But you can have a Cheviot now!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread lconley
When in doubt, get the one with the lugs (Cheviot). I have a Clementine and 
a Betty (and an MMM for that matter). TIG just cannot compare with the 
beauty of lugs.

Laing
Cocoa FL

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:21:28 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:

> Excellent point about availability. I'm sure she would be happy with 
> either. I am personally leaning more towards the cheviot. But I'll need to 
> talk to her and see what she would really like. 
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have ridden both models and I say you can’t go wrong. But the Clem L is 
>> out of stock pretty much everywhere, and a new batch isn’t arriving until 
>> late July. But you can have a Cheviot now!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Bob Lovejoy
It is a 59cm and silver, so might be too big or the wrong color, but it 
seems Chris at his new shop (formerly A1 Cyclery) has one in stock, and on 
sale, at least a bit.  

https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-l/

No affiliation except that I wanted to see A1 before it closed and moved!

Bob
Galesburg, IL

 

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Justin Schoop
Excellent point about availability. I'm sure she would be happy with 
either. I am personally leaning more towards the cheviot. But I'll need to 
talk to her and see what she would really like. 

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I have ridden both models and I say you can’t go wrong. But the Clem L is 
> out of stock pretty much everywhere, and a new batch isn’t arriving until 
> late July. But you can have a Cheviot now!

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I have ridden both models and I say you can’t go wrong. But the Clem L is out 
of stock pretty much everywhere, and a new batch isn’t arriving until late 
July. But you can have a Cheviot now!

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I had a Clementine and helped a friend purchase a Cheviot. I would say for 
around town, and ease  of on off-- that is, actually using the 
step-through-ability -- the Clementine wins. If the idea is more of a sport 
recreational ride, the Cheviot might be better suited. If the actual 
step-throughness doesn't matter, either bike is of course pretty fantastic.

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Re: [RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Eric Daume
I vote Clem for the brakes and clearance.

Eric

On Sunday, April 28, 2019, Justin Schoop  wrote:

> My wife has finally shown interest in a nice frame that's more comfortable
> than her road bike and surly LHT. I recommended the Clem and Chevoit and
> she really likes the idea of the step-thru frames.
>
> Hoping to get more insight into the two and what the major difference
> would be. Thanks!
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[RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Joe Bernard
L is stouter, uses cantis or v-brakes, lower standover. Cheviot is more of a 
road bike with a taller "top"-tube. I've owned both and I'd say pick your 
color, brakes, joining method (TIG vs. lugs) and standover..they're both great. 

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[RBW] Chevoit or Clem jr L

2019-04-29 Thread Justin Schoop
My wife has finally shown interest in a nice frame that's more comfortable than 
her road bike and surly LHT. I recommended the Clem and Chevoit and she really 
likes the idea of the step-thru frames. 

Hoping to get more insight into the two and what the major difference would be. 
Thanks!

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