Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-15 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, I have been happily riding 72 mm (actual; labeled 3"/76 mm) tires
(tubed and tubeless) on (non-tubeless) Alex 24 mm OW (again, OW, so
internal width probably what, 20 mm?) rims (with, tubless, a lot of Stan's
tape) and a cupful of OS Endurance in each tire. 13 psi. Works fine, as did
the 1.95s on 19 mm OW (13 mm IW) rims 30 years ago at 28 psi.

As with derailleur specs, I think that real world workability extends much
further than manufacturers' specs.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 8:29 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable
> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider?
> I have not found one.
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-14 Thread Den John
Halo components in the UK do some wide rims for rim brakes in 26", 27.5" 
and 29". 
Their SAS is 26 or 27.5" and 30mm internal width. 
Their T2 is 29" and 26mm internal width.
I think they have some other models too. 

I have the SAS 27.5" on my single speed MTB. I was worried they'd feel 
heavy (760g) but not so far. They did squeal a bit because the braking 
surface needs to bed in, otherwise no problems.
Currently running 2.8" WTB Rangers with tubes. Not tried tubeless setup yet 
with these. I like the Rangers a lot in that size, but seems like they are 
getting hard to find, at least here in the EU.

Cheers,
Johnny
On Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 02:05:20 UTC+1 Paul Clifton wrote:

> This just reminded me ...  I scored some 27.5x2.8" WTB Rangers the other 
> day. I wonder if they'll be taller on the cliffhangers.
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:35 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the chart Laing!
>>
>> Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the 
>> Gus just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable 
>> sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME.
>>
>> The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to the rim 
>> so that the arms were as vertical as possible. But it was too close for 
>> comfort, and I did hear some rubbing occasionally, but not sure what was 
>> deforming to cause it ...
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:54:46 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you 
>>> want something longer:
>>>
>>> [image: V brakes.JPG]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
 size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
 already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
 Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
 maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due 
 to 
 the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
 course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it 
 does 
 tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
 problem… just keep it in mind.

 On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

 

 Richard,
 I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I 
 don't think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost 
 certainly won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to 
 clear the 2.8" G-ones.

 So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the 
 rim width being a limiting factor.

 Paul in AR

 On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail 
> Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true 
> “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with 
> success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim 
> brake rims.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>
> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 
> 2.6 to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is 
> within Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go 
> outside of "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per 
> side wider. It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>
> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. 
> Have you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I 
> wouldn't hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my 
> door 
> step...
>
> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit 
> wider? 
> I have not found one. 
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
This just reminded me ...  I scored some 27.5x2.8" WTB Rangers the other 
day. I wonder if they'll be taller on the cliffhangers.

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:35 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Thanks for the chart Laing!
>
> Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the Gus 
> just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable 
> sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME.
>
> The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to the rim 
> so that the arms were as vertical as possible. But it was too close for 
> comfort, and I did hear some rubbing occasionally, but not sure what was 
> deforming to cause it ...
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:54:46 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you 
>> want something longer:
>>
>> [image: V brakes.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
>>> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
>>> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
>>> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
>>> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
>>> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
>>> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
>>> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
>>> problem… just keep it in mind.
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Richard,
>>> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I 
>>> don't think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost 
>>> certainly won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to 
>>> clear the 2.8" G-ones.
>>>
>>> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the 
>>> rim width being a limiting factor.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail 
 Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true 
 “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with 
 success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim 
 brake rims.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

 Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?

 I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
 to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
 Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
 "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
 It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.

 I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
 you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
 hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...

 Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.

 Best,

 Scott in about to get very cold Montana

 On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
 rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
 Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
 I have not found one. 

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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
Thanks for the chart Laing!

Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the Gus 
just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable 
sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME.

The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to the rim 
so that the arms were as vertical as possible. But it was too close for 
comfort, and I did hear some rubbing occasionally, but not sure what was 
deforming to cause it ...

Paul in AR

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:54:46 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you want 
> something longer:
>
> [image: V brakes.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
>> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
>> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
>> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
>> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
>> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
>> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
>> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
>> problem… just keep it in mind.
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Richard,
>> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
>> think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
>> won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
>> 2.8" G-ones.
>>
>> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
>> width being a limiting factor.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail 
>>> Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true 
>>> “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with 
>>> success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim 
>>> brake rims.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>>>
>>> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
>>> to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
>>> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
>>> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
>>> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>>>
>>> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
>>> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
>>> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>>>
>>> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
>>> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
>>> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
>>> I have not found one. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread lconley
Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you want 
something longer:

[image: V brakes.JPG]

Laing

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
> problem… just keep it in mind.
>
> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard,
> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
> think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
> won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
> 2.8" G-ones.
>
> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
> width being a limiting factor.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 
>> 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” 
>> bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not 
>> sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>>
>> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
>> to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
>> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
>> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
>> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>>
>> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
>> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
>> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>>
>> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
>> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
>> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
>> I have not found one. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Turner
Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no problem… just keep it in mind.On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:Richard,I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 2.8" G-ones.So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim width being a limiting factor.Paul in AROn Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:
Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.Best,Scott in about to get very cold Montana





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2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? I have not found one.



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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
Richard,
I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
2.8" G-ones.

So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
width being a limiting factor.

Paul in AR

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 
> 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” 
> bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not 
> sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>
> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to 
> begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>
> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>
> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
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> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
> I have not found one. 
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:
Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.Best,Scott in about to get very cold Montana





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2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? I have not found one.



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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
 Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to 
begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
"recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. It's 
not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have you got 
a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't hesitate to 
run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
Best,
Scott in about to get very cold Montana

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose 
 wrote:  
 
 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? I 
have not found one.

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[RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
I have not found one.

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