[RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Jay
I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting
in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour.
Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel
mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith,
never having actually used drop bars before.
I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style
interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar
brake levers for better control in traffic.
Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers?

Thanks,
Jay

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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Bruce Baker
I have found that on the Sam because of the frame geometry I use the
interrupter levers more than the
brakes.  In fact I'm starting to rebuild my stable and am test riding a
Specialized Tricross.  I kept looking for the interrupter levers that
weren't there.
If I buy it that is one change I would definitely make
Bruce

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting
 in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour.
 Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel
 mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith,
 never having actually used drop bars before.
 I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style
 interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar
 brake levers for better control in traffic.
 Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers?

 Thanks,
 Jay

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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not instead; possibly in addition to. But if you have your bars and
drop levers set up properly the question of needing another pair of
levers on the bar's flats doesn't even really arise for pavement
riding; they are useful sometimes for very rough or steep terrain
where you want to get way back on the saddle and thus cannot easily
reach the drop levers; but that apart, there's really no need --
again, if you set drop levers up right. You will probably be using the
hoods position more than any other, in any event, where the brake
levers are right to hand.

I installed them once on a mountain bike with drops and found them
only marginally useful; I debated adding them to my last three off
road bikes, all three also with drops, but decided against it: I
always have the bars high enough that I can reach road levers even
when pushed far off the rear of the saddle.

There is a reason why they are called cross levers: they were
developed for use as described above.


On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting
 in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour.
 Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel
 mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith,
 never having actually used drop bars before.
 I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style
 interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar
 brake levers for better control in traffic.
 Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers?

 Thanks,
 Jay

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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 15:30 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 Not instead; possibly in addition to. But if you have your bars and
 drop levers set up properly the question of needing another pair of
 levers on the bar's flats doesn't even really arise for pavement
 riding; they are useful sometimes for very rough or steep terrain
 where you want to get way back on the saddle and thus cannot easily
 reach the drop levers; but that apart, there's really no need --
 again, if you set drop levers up right. You will probably be using the
 hoods position more than any other, in any event, where the brake
 levers are right to hand.

If you like riding on the bar tops, as I do, you'll find the interrupter
levers very handy.  


 I installed them once on a mountain bike with drops and found them
 only marginally useful; I debated adding them to my last three off
 road bikes, all three also with drops, but decided against it: I
 always have the bars high enough that I can reach road levers even
 when pushed far off the rear of the saddle.

This is a personal preference thing.  I first started using them on a
commuter bike, where they most decidedly are really handy for riding in
traffic; but I decided I liked them well enough I put them on several
other bikes as well.  I have a set of Paul levers on the shelf waiting
for the new MAP Randonneur Project to arrive, and when that's built I'll
have four bikes with interrupter levers, three with Pauls.





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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Michael_S
Not to rile any feathers, but as Patrick said if your bars/top tube are the 
 right length for you then they become an un-necessary bike addition. I feel 
that drop bar bikes should be set up so you can ride on the hoods most of 
the time. The wider stance is better for braking,steering and turning. 
 
Buying stock geometry bikes make this a tougher thing to do especially if 
you  have a shorter torso length. Most of the Rivendell bikes have longer 
tope tubes so to get the right seat tube frame size sometimes riders end up 
with 6 or 7 cm stems. When the top tube/stem  is too long riders find a more 
comfortable postion on the top of the bars and the cross leves become a 
band-aid to an ill fitting frame. With a custom you can design the bike to 
fit perfect.
I would say if you want cross levers you should stick with a flat or upright 
handlebar. 
 
~mike
 
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Horace
I have the interrupter levers on three road bikes, two of them on Nitto
Noodles. I recommend them unconditionally. I probably use them less than 10
percent of the time, but they are simply great to have. There are almost no
drawbacks, except that they may interfere with a handlebar bag.

Horace.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I bought Forrest's Sam Hillborne and am having it built for commuting
 in a mix of interurban roads and city traffic and the occasional tour.
 Coming from a sordid MTB past, I currently commute on an old steel
 mountain bike with slicks. I ordered the Nitto Noodle bars on faith,
 never having actually used drop bars before.
 I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to go with cross style
 interrupter levers either in addition to or instead of the drop bar
 brake levers for better control in traffic.
 Or is it just a matter of getting used to the drop bar levers?

 Thanks,
 Jay

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Re: [RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 15:57 -0700, Michael_S wrote:
 Not to rile any feathers, but as Patrick said if your bars/top tube
 are the  right length for you then they become an un-necessary bike
 addition. I feel that drop bar bikes should be set up so you can ride
 on the hoods most of the time. The wider stance is better for
 braking,steering and turning.

It's all a matter of personal preference.  There are no god-given rules
about this, and as always YMMV.  My bars are set up so I can ride on the
hoods, on the bar tops, or on the bar ends, and I use all those
positions.  I happen to like having brake levers available at my finger
tips when using the bar tops, and find them no inconvenience.  And let
me assure you, my bars, stem and top tube are the right length.
 
 Buying stock geometry bikes make this a tougher thing to do especially
 if you  have a shorter torso length. Most of the Rivendell bikes have
 longer tope tubes so to get the right seat tube frame size sometimes
 riders end up with 6 or 7 cm stems. When the top tube/stem  is too
 long riders find a more comfortable postion on the top of the bars and
 the cross leves become a band-aid to an ill fitting frame. 

If you believe this is some kind of universal truth, applicable to
everyone who likes these levers, you are dead wrong.

 With a custom you can design the bike to fit perfect.
 I would say if you want cross levers you should stick with a flat or
 upright handlebar. 

And to that, I would say Bull Hockey.




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[RBW] Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

2011-07-01 Thread Peter Pesce
Another vote here in favor. I had them on Noodles on my Sam and really liked 
them. Mine were Tektros and were great IMHO. I find that on dirt or gravel I 
hate riding on the hoods and prefer the flats, the the cross levers are 
perfect. Maybe too many years of mountain biking. I also  use a VO Rackaleut 
to get round bar bag issues.  Though you need to stick to small handlebar bags. 

I've been testing out rando bars recently, a 45(?)cm Nitto at present, and the 
cross levers don't work well with them at all. 

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