Re: [RBW] GPS vs web based mappings

2010-02-16 Thread Roy Yates
*It depends on what website you use. My understanding is that each
interpolates the same topo data base in its own way. Also, my impression is
that each website keeps tuning their algorithms in the hope of greater
accuracy. What's not clear is whether any of these sites get access to side
information or secondary databases *
*
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*My own experience is with the Garmin 705 (which has a barometric altimeter)
and a VDO MC1.0+ which also has a barometric altimeter but no GPS. I've
found that the two tend to report results within about 10% of each other.
The VDO which has doesn't have GPS, tends to do more averaging of the
barometer readings.  *
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*
*As for websites, I've been using bikeroutetoaster.com and ridewithgps.com.
 My experience was that a bikeroutetoaster often underestimated the vertical
feet in a route by 10-20%. On the other hand, ridewithgps tended to be
closer, and occasionally overestimate a little. It seems possible to me that
ridewithgps may well have added a correction factor to account for small ups
and downs? *
*
*
*In any case, both have been much better than my experiences with mapmyride.
However, I stopped using mapmyride 2 years ago, and it is very possible they
have changed their algorithms in the meantime.
*
...Roy

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 Can't compare web to GPS, but I've found over the years that both calculate
 more climbing than is shown by an altimeter watch or bike computer. The
 altimeter typically shows about 30% less altitude gain, probably because the
 mapped versions add up every little up while most altimeters ignore small
 gains.
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 On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 In mapping out routes, I've noticed big differences in both distance
 and elevation gain between  GPS and plotting the same route on web
 based mapping services.  Distances can be off by 5%-10% and elevation
 by double.  The web based systems are always higher than GPS.  Has
 anyone else encountered this?  It's entirely possible I'm doing
 something wrong on the web based systems.

 dougP

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[RBW] GPS vs web based mappings

2010-02-15 Thread doug peterson
In mapping out routes, I've noticed big differences in both distance
and elevation gain between  GPS and plotting the same route on web
based mapping services.  Distances can be off by 5%-10% and elevation
by double.  The web based systems are always higher than GPS.  Has
anyone else encountered this?  It's entirely possible I'm doing
something wrong on the web based systems.

dougP

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Re: [RBW] GPS vs web based mappings

2010-02-15 Thread Eric Norris
Can't compare web to GPS, but I've found over the years that both  
calculate more climbing than is shown by an altimeter watch or bike  
computer. The altimeter typically shows about 30% less altitude gain,  
probably because the mapped versions add up every little up while most  
altimeters ignore small gains.


-- Eric Norris
www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.com



On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:


In mapping out routes, I've noticed big differences in both distance
and elevation gain between  GPS and plotting the same route on web
based mapping services.  Distances can be off by 5%-10% and elevation
by double.  The web based systems are always higher than GPS.  Has
anyone else encountered this?  It's entirely possible I'm doing
something wrong on the web based systems.

dougP

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