Re: [RBW] Grocery Run - No Trailer Test

[Patrick Moore]

Any idea of the total weight in all those bags?

I recall trying out front loading, in a very cursory way, some 6-8 years
ago, with a thrift store Schwinn Voyager, to which I'd attached Wald's
biggest front basket. I carried as much as 56 lbs in it, but handling was
simply not safe; neither riding it or, worse, walking it when the front
weight would make the back end flip up and over.

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[RBW] Grocery Run - No Trailer Test

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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[Tony DeFilippo]

Looks pretty deep!  I found myself unable to maintain momentum even in fresh 
untouched snow much over 1' deep here in VA last week... Maybe I need more 
practice! :)

Gorgeous shots as always, thanks for sharing.

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[Deacon Patrick]

All told, Tony, we got about 20". So much of what is rideable depends on 
how wet the snow it and what lies beneath. This was nearly champaign 
powder, so rideable just barely.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 6:44:56 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Looks pretty deep!  I found myself unable to maintain momentum even in 
> fresh untouched snow much over 1' deep here in VA last week... Maybe I need 
> more practice! :)
>
> Gorgeous shots as always, thanks for sharing.
>
> Tony
>
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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[Tony DeFilippo]

I was running 26x1.9" Nokian M studded tires and I bogged down very
quickly in 8"+ snow on the bike paths I tried to ride on...  Those tires
with great on the ice-rutted trails after a refreeze.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016, 08:22 Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I was surprised at how easy 4-5" was, but my tires measure 58 mm wide
> (Race Lite). Of course, I was geared down quite a bit.
>
> What tires were you riding? I daresay 12" would have been very different.
>
> Virgin snow, not packed or rutted.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
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>> Looks pretty deep!  I found myself unable to maintain momentum even in
>> fresh untouched snow much over 1' deep here in VA last week... Maybe I need
>> more practice! :)
>>
>> Gorgeous shots as always, thanks for sharing.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[El Sapo]

Great pictures Deacon. I'll use those images as motivation to get out there 
when it's brutally cold here in the Bay Area. Like in the 40's

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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[Patrick Moore]

I was surprised at how easy 4-5" was, but my tires measure 58 mm wide (Race
Lite). Of course, I was geared down quite a bit.

What tires were you riding? I daresay 12" would have been very different.

Virgin snow, not packed or rutted.

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> Looks pretty deep!  I found myself unable to maintain momentum even in
> fresh untouched snow much over 1' deep here in VA last week... Maybe I need
> more practice! :)
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Grocery Run

[Patrick Moore]

Looks and sounds idyllic!

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Minus 9˚F heading out, warmed up to zero by the time I returned. Ten
> miles. I love this stuff!
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[RBW] Grocery Run

[Deacon Patrick]

Minus 9˚F heading out, warmed up to zero by the time I returned. Ten miles. I 
love this stuff!
https://medium.com/@DeaconPatrick/grocery-run-5dda6d0d2baa#.4scfmxxaa

With abandon,
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[RBW] grocery run

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Took the Sam to the supermarket today to get some groceries. Not a
huge load, but enough to fill 2 smallish  panniers and a large saddle
bag. I commute with just the saddle bag so I'm not used to that much
weight. Thing is, it felt pretty good. Uphill took a little more
effort but on the flats it just seemed like the bike went by itself.
It was almost like a different bike. My 11 year old was with me so I
was to riding slower so he could keep up. That was easy to do unloaded
but almost impossible loaded with groceries.

I've heard people say similar things about a bike designed
specifically for loaded touring (Surly LHT), but never about a Riv.

I'm sure it has something to do with inertia.

One thing I didn't like was much weight in the klick fix basket I put
on the handlebars. 2 bags of veggies was too much wheel flop, so those
went in the saddlebag and the eggs rode in the basket by themselves.
Eggs made it home fine.

Jay

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[RBW] grocery run

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Took the Sam to the supermarket today to get some groceries. Not a
huge load, but enough to fill 2 smallish  panniers and a large saddle
bag. I commute with just the saddle bag so I'm not used to that much
weight. Thing is, it felt pretty good. Uphill took a little more
effort but on the flats it just seemed like the bike went by itself.
It was almost like a different bike. My 11 year old was with me on his
folder, so I
was riding slower so he could keep up. That was easy to do unloaded
but almost impossible loaded with groceries.

I've heard people say similar things about a bike designed
specifically for loaded touring (Surly LHT), but never about a Riv.

I'm sure it has something to do with inertia.

One thing I didn't like was much weight in the klickfix basket I put
on the handlebars. 2 bags of veggies was too much wheel flop, so those
went in the saddlebag and the eggs rode in the basket by themselves.
Eggs made it home fine.

Jay

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