[RBW] Re: + 1 more for Stan's and the F Freds
On Sunday, September 8, 2013 1:55:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I don't want to make myself a bore on the subject, but the combination is, to my mind, as big a benefit to all rounder -- ie combination dirt/pavement -- cycling as clipless pedals and modern dynamo lighting to the sport generally. More miles on the Fargo this morning, half dirt. I came across a cyclist flicking the goatheads from her tires, stopped to offer help and was told that the tires had sealant. So the goatheads are thick and nasty. But no flats at all. ~ 40 miles so far of local bosque dirt (plus more pavement) and, not only no flats, no need to add air. I can tell I've lost a bit of pressure as air escapes while the sealant does its job, but just barely enough to notice when I squeeze the tires. And this with wonderfully fast pavement rolling. I do notice the usual wind resistance when riding into a stiff headwind, compared to, say, 35 mm Kojaks -- all 2+ tires that measure ~29 are like sails compared to skinnier or shorter tires, at least IME. But that aside, the Freds roll wonderfully on pavement and firm dirt or gravel, and do well enough in sand that I don't miss wider, softer tires too much in sandy areas. Hi Patrick: I've been reading these posts with interest, because I've been riding my old Stumpjumper around the city here with 2.35 Big Apple Liteskins, admittedly a somewhat different application, and love the huge and pretty compliant tires. I also read a blog post a while back about someone riding 559 Furious Freds on the road, and loving them. My question: what differences might one expect between 29er versus 26er versions? I ride both wide 650b's (Hetres) and 700x40s (Vittoria Voyager Hypers) and love both -- but the Hetres definitely spin up faster and don't feel quite as cumbersome when cornering, etc. in urban riding. What do you, or what does anyone else, think? Art Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: + 1 more for Stan's and the F Freds
Art -- I can't speak directly to the 559 size, but I have used both 559 and 622 60 mm Big Apples and found that the 622s seem to float over sand and absorb high amplitude bumps better at a given pressure (30 psi in the 700C feels like -- IIRC -- 25 psi on the 26ers). OTOH, while the sole 622 FF is 50 mm wide (measuring 10% wider on my wide rims) I see that a 2.4 version of the FF is available in the 559 size, and I'll bet that the addtional 1 cm or so of width will more than make up for the smaller diameter when comparing these two tires -- though, for mostly pavement, I'd say that the 50 mm 26er is perfectly adequate. I'll be interested to read of your impressions should you try the FFs. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM, art rthrstrum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick: I've been reading these posts with interest, because I've been riding my old Stumpjumper around the city here with 2.35 Big Apple Liteskins, admittedly a somewhat different application, and love the huge and pretty compliant tires. I also read a blog post a while back about someone riding 559 Furious Freds on the road, and loving them. My question: what differences might one expect between 29er versus 26er versions? I ride both wide 650b's (Hetres) and 700x40s (Vittoria Voyager Hypers) and love both -- but the Hetres definitely spin up faster and don't feel quite as cumbersome when cornering, etc. in urban riding. What do you, or what does anyone else, think? Art Tacoma, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: + 1 more for Stan's and the F Freds
Okay, my interest in Furious Freds is piqued. I've been happily riding 622 60mm Big Apples on the Gravel Roadster (very Fargo-ish bike), but lighter, faster, smaller diameter (the rear BA is 2mm from the seat tube) tires sound great. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, September 8, 2013 1:55:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I don't want to make myself a bore on the subject, but the combination is, to my mind, as big a benefit to all rounder -- ie combination dirt/pavement -- cycling as clipless pedals and modern dynamo lighting to the sport generally. More miles on the Fargo this morning, half dirt. I came across a cyclist flicking the goatheads from her tires, stopped to offer help and was told that the tires had sealant. So the goatheads are thick and nasty. But no flats at all. ~ 40 miles so far of local bosque dirt (plus more pavement) and, not only no flats, no need to add air. I can tell I've lost a bit of pressure as air escapes while the sealant does its job, but just barely enough to notice when I squeeze the tires. And this with wonderfully fast pavement rolling. I do notice the usual wind resistance when riding into a stiff headwind, compared to, say, 35 mm Kojaks -- all 2+ tires that measure ~29 are like sails compared to skinnier or shorter tires, at least IME. But that aside, the Freds roll wonderfully on pavement and firm dirt or gravel, and do well enough in sand that I don't miss wider, softer tires too much in sandy areas. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.