[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Liesl]

Whenever I don't understand or come across a new term, I always try to 
ask...What's a 'tombstone' in this context?

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Leslie]

Liesl,

If you look at some racks, they have an upright extension, on which a 
sleeve of a bag can slide onto...

I'll find some pics/ links in a min...


On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:03:19 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
>
> Whenever I don't understand or come across a new term, I always try to 
> ask...What's a 'tombstone' in this context?
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Leslie]

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r1.htm

First pic on the Mark's rack...  most of the rack is horizontal, but 
there's a vertical bit:  that's the "tombstone"...



On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:12:58 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:
>
> Liesl,
>
> If you look at some racks, they have an upright extension, on which a 
> sleeve of a bag can slide onto...
>
> I'll find some pics/ links in a min...
>
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:03:19 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
>>
>> Whenever I don't understand or come across a new term, I always try to 
>> ask...What's a 'tombstone' in this context?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[shawn m.]

It's that bit on the top of some (most?) racks that sticks up to keep your 
stuff from sliding forward. I don't know if it's an accurate technical 
term, but I heard it used and it made sense to me so I use it, too. On the 
Nitto R14 it actually has a tombstone shape; on the Big Rear Rack, it's 
just in the way. Well, in MY way, anyway

On Monday, March 25, 2013 12:03:19 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
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> Whenever I don't understand or come across a new term, I always try to 
> ask...What's a 'tombstone' in this context?
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Leslie]

http://acornbags.com/support/boxy8.jpg

Here you can see the backside, w/ the rack 'tombstone' inside of the bag's 
catch...



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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Liesl]

Thanks all!  I certainly have experience working around the 'tombstone' 
/seat conundrum as a little-bike rider. Now I can concisely describe it!  I 
think I've posted this before, but it's why I love Mark's rack—because it's 
so dang adjustable.  Not big and burly enough for this application though.

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Jay B]

Hey Shawn,

I used (and loved) a Large SaddleSack on my 56cm Quickbeam for more than 
three years.  I used a Nitto R-14 for support, and had a dyno light 
attached to the rear of the rack.  The vertical space between the seat and 
rack was not quite ideal, but in practice worked just great.  I installed 
the rack as low as it would go (right above the fender) and slid it as far 
back under the seat as I could get it.  You can check out some pictures 
hereand 
here  I 
snapped of the bike before stripping all the useful bits off of it.  I 
never tried the setup with a sprung saddle, but I can see where that might 
get a little cramped.  And as you can see in some of the pics, the 
saddlebag tended to slightly drape over the rack-mounted light when the bag 
was empty.  The light we still visible though, and I had another light on 
the fender.  

-Jay

On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:26:34 AM UTC-4, shawn m. wrote:
>
> I didn't want to hijack Jim's thread looking for one, but at the risk of 
> committing heresy I've got a beef with the Large Saddlesack. Don't get me 
> wrong, I think it's a thing of beauty, unequaled in craftsmanship and 
> utility. The Large Saddlesack ideal, I'm totally on board with. In 
> practice, not so much. I picked one up in November and spent the winter 
> trying to get it to play nice with my bike, a 54cm Hunqapillar. The 
> write-up on the website made it clear that I'd need a rack. No problem, I 
> have a Nitto Big Rear Rack. Ah, but it doesn't really work with that; the 
> tombstone interferes. I tried to resolve that by buying a Nitto Saddlebag 
> Grip from another list member, but it didn't make enough of a difference. I 
> spent an afternoon at the hardware store designing a 4" offset, but it was 
> too flexy. Finally, I bit the bullet and got a Nitto r14 rear rack and 
> it's... just okay. The springs on my B67 interferes with the bag so that 
> the bottom half sticks under the springs, and it droops off the back of the 
> rack just enough to obscure my dyno taillight. For whatever reason, I'm not 
> yet willing to give up on the bag though I was sorely tempted by Jim's 
> post. Has anyone with a non-gigantic frame had success mounting a Large 
> Saddlesack without compromising it's aesthetics and/or it's utility?

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[shawn m.]

Thanks, Jay. I think the lesson I've learned today is that I need to get 
over it. It's a fine bag, and it'll work fine with my bike; perfect being 
the enemy of good. 

On Monday, March 25, 2013 12:26:41 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote:
>
> Hey Shawn,
>
> I used (and loved) a Large SaddleSack on my 56cm Quickbeam for more than 
> three years.  I used a Nitto R-14 for support, and had a dyno light 
> attached to the rear of the rack.  The vertical space between the seat and 
> rack was not quite ideal, but in practice worked just great.  I installed 
> the rack as low as it would go (right above the fender) and slid it as far 
> back under the seat as I could get it.  You can check out some pictures 
> here and 
> here I 
> snapped of the bike before stripping all the useful bits off of it.  I 
> never tried the setup with a sprung saddle, but I can see where that might 
> get a little cramped.  And as you can see in some of the pics, the 
> saddlebag tended to slightly drape over the rack-mounted light when the bag 
> was empty.  The light we still visible though, and I had another light on 
> the fender.  
>
> -Jay
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:26:34 AM UTC-4, shawn m. wrote:
>>
>> I didn't want to hijack Jim's thread looking for one, but at the risk of 
>> committing heresy I've got a beef with the Large Saddlesack. Don't get me 
>> wrong, I think it's a thing of beauty, unequaled in craftsmanship and 
>> utility. The Large Saddlesack ideal, I'm totally on board with. In 
>> practice, not so much. I picked one up in November and spent the winter 
>> trying to get it to play nice with my bike, a 54cm Hunqapillar. The 
>> write-up on the website made it clear that I'd need a rack. No problem, I 
>> have a Nitto Big Rear Rack. Ah, but it doesn't really work with that; the 
>> tombstone interferes. I tried to resolve that by buying a Nitto Saddlebag 
>> Grip from another list member, but it didn't make enough of a difference. I 
>> spent an afternoon at the hardware store designing a 4" offset, but it was 
>> too flexy. Finally, I bit the bullet and got a Nitto r14 rear rack and 
>> it's... just okay. The springs on my B67 interferes with the bag so that 
>> the bottom half sticks under the springs, and it droops off the back of the 
>> rack just enough to obscure my dyno taillight. For whatever reason, I'm not 
>> yet willing to give up on the bag though I was sorely tempted by Jim's 
>> post. Has anyone with a non-gigantic frame had success mounting a Large 
>> Saddlesack without compromising it's aesthetics and/or it's utility?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Tom Harrop]

Shawn,

It can definitely work. I'm without a photo capture device this week, so I 
can't prove it, but we've put a large SaddleSack on my GF's 54 cm (650b) 
Homer. B68, SH about 70 cm from memory, Tubus Cargo carrier. I guess if 
you're on a 54 cm Hunq you'd have a bit more post showing. Anyway, in order 
for the bag to sit squarely on the rack, it has to smoosh under the springs 
a little so you lose SOME bag capacity but definitely not enough to render 
it unusable. It's the price you normal people have to pay for riding those 
perty-lookin', small frame sizes...

Good luck!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Deacon Patrick]

Are there any normal people here? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:53:32 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:
>
> Shawn,
>
> It can definitely work. I'm without a photo capture device this week, so I 
> can't prove it, but we've put a large SaddleSack on my GF's 54 cm (650b) 
> Homer. B68, SH about 70 cm from memory, Tubus Cargo carrier. I guess if 
> you're on a 54 cm Hunq you'd have a bit more post showing. Anyway, in order 
> for the bag to sit squarely on the rack, it has to smoosh under the springs 
> a little so you lose SOME bag capacity but definitely not enough to render 
> it unusable. It's the price you normal people have to pay for riding those 
> perty-lookin', small frame sizes...
>
> Good luck!
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Ron Mc]

no normal people here - didn't you read the marketing survey?  Normal 
people ride with their chin between the knees and chase Lance downhill.  

On Monday, March 25, 2013 4:58:50 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Are there any normal people here? Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:53:32 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:
>>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> It can definitely work. I'm without a photo capture device this week, so 
>> I can't prove it, but we've put a large SaddleSack on my GF's 54 cm (650b) 
>> Homer. B68, SH about 70 cm from memory, Tubus Cargo carrier. I guess if 
>> you're on a 54 cm Hunq you'd have a bit more post showing. Anyway, in order 
>> for the bag to sit squarely on the rack, it has to smoosh under the springs 
>> a little so you lose SOME bag capacity but definitely not enough to render 
>> it unusable. It's the price you normal people have to pay for riding those 
>> perty-lookin', small frame sizes...
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[PATRICK MOORE]

Here is an extreme and home made example. Most aren't bent over at the top
-- misjudged length and decided to use it as a security device rather than
cut it. Effective if not pretty: the front rack bag (that is what it was
made for) wobbled when strapped to the Logo, but the "tombstone" keeps it
rock solid even without any stiffeners.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5859372725475216258

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> Whenever I don't understand or come across a new term, I always try to
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Re: [RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

[Nick Payne]

I put a leather strap around the tab on the saddlebag and that part of 
the rack to stop the bag swaying. Like so: 
http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/bikestuff/DSC00090.JPG 



On 26/03/13 07:00, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Here is an extreme and home made example. Most aren't bent over at the 
top -- misjudged length and decided to use it as a security device 
rather than cut it. Effective if not pretty: the front rack bag (that 
is what it was made for) wobbled when strapped to the Logo, but the 
"tombstone" keeps it rock solid even without any stiffeners.


https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5859372725475216258


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