[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[masmojo]

To me it depends on the bike &/or the handlebars being used; for drop bars I 
prefer the Technomic; for my Clementine, either is fine. Moustache bars? I've 
used both, but swerve towards Technomic. Albatross bars? It's a toss up.
In cases where either works, generally rise and reach will dictate which I use.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Philip Williamson]

For bars that high, I’d go with the riser for sure.

Here’s another Appaloosa built up with drops: 
https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/for-sale-rivendell-joe-appaloosa-30823
It looks good with the dirt drop stem, I think.

Do you have a purple Onyx hub on the rear, too? If so, is it 135mm without a 
disc mount?

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[ctifusion]

>From my experience with those bars, a technomic will flex too much and maybe 
>even be dangerous. I'd stick with the dirt drop.

Brynnar
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:36:57 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> jandrews, thanks for asking. here's a pic. 
>

Good God Jim! I think you hit every branch of the ugly-but-useful tree with 
that dirt drop stem holding an upturned drop bar with Gevenalle brifters. 
And with purple-anodized cherries on top no less! :)

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ah. I have seen the name, I guess I got it confused with the Kellys.

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 10:31:42 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
>
> Not Jim, but them there look like Gevenalles 
> .
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Jim, what's the story with the shifters perched way on up top of the 
>> brake hoods? Have you set up other bikes like this? Are they modified Kelly 
>> Take-offs? Is this a thing that passed by my notice and I'm the only one in 
>> the dark here?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[jandrews]

Thanks Jim S
That is looking very tall and very wide!
I bet you'll end up lowering it and being quite comfortable in the drops.
Also curious to try those brake lever mounted shifters at some point.

Are you running G-One Allrounds 29x2.25 under those B65? fenders?







On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:36:57 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> jandrews, thanks for asking. here's a pic. 
>
> I'm neither an effective mechanic nor a quick one, so I'm still fiddling 
> around trying to make sure the brake hoods are symmetrical. 
>
> I haven't ridden it yet. I think I might lower the bars once I've actually 
> ridden it. This is max height.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[sameness]

Not Jim, but them there look like Gevenalles 
.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Jim, what's the story with the shifters perched way on up top of the brake 
> hoods? Have you set up other bikes like this? Are they modified Kelly 
> Take-offs? Is this a thing that passed by my notice and I'm the only one in 
> the dark here?
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, no worries about the handlebars dinging your top tube(s). Jim, what's 
the story with the shifters perched way on up top of the brake hoods? Have 
you set up other bikes like this? Are they modified Kelly Take-offs? Is 
this a thing that passed by my notice and I'm the only one in the dark 
here? I don't think I would worry so much about the aesthetics of the stem, 
since those thumbies tend to draw the eye. I'm trying to imagine how I 
would shift, for instance, the left one in the position it's in now. I 
gather the idea is to not move off the hoods, similar to Ergo/STI? I like 
the purple accents. 


On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:36:57 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> jandrews, thanks for asking. here's a pic. 
>
> I'm neither an effective mechanic nor a quick one, so I'm still fiddling 
> around trying to make sure the brake hoods are symmetrical. 
>
> I haven't ridden it yet. I think I might lower the bars once I've actually 
> ridden it. This is max height.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Eric Daume]

I'm going to vote for the Dirtdrop for really high bars. A Technomic with
hugely exposed stem looks pretty odd. Or just buy a bigger frame.

Eric

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> "Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right?"
>
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Joe Bernard]

"Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right?"

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Re: [RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Patrick Moore]

Those are some nice stems. I have to say that I prefer a lot of rise in the
extension to 7" of quill showing above the headset.

I suppose it's the light, but that orange bar tape on the bike with the
nice blue stem looks as if it is eerily glowing from within.

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:25 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For my bikes and my riding, I prefer a steel stem, painted to match the
> frame. Aesthetics.
> If you need to get the bars up high, a Salsa or Nitto riser is nice. If
> the frame has plenty of stack, a 90* or -17* stem works for me.
>
> Nitto riser: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvAwqExATif/
> Salsa riser: https://www.instagram.com/p/BwFav2_l1tt/
> -17* Frances stem: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxcp5iJBnFl/
> 90* Nitto stem: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxBflM7l4u9/
>
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, Ca
>
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue.
>>
>> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction
>> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it.
>> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a
>> first-world problem)
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[sameness]

Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right?

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:28:20 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every 
> stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment.  A stem w/o a bar, a 
> bar w/o a bike, a bike w/o a rider, a rider w/o a ride and a ride and 
> everything included in that ride w/o Life Itself is unimaginable.  Life is 
> Good , The Best  and there is none else ! 
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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[lconley]

Once the handlebars are two inches above the seat, esthetics have kind of 
gone out the window anyway.
I use Dirt Drop (10 cm - the 8 looks* too* funny with the different 
diameters) and Lugged stems on most of my Rivendells. The Dirt Drop is 
preferred on the commuters and off-roadish bikes because I am fat and it 
gives me more clearance when I am straddling the top tube. All of my 
threadless bikes use LD stems for the belly clearance also (except 
Hubbuhubbuh). But the Guv'nor needs a traditional Technomic or lugged 
style stem. Bottom line is the practical bikes get the Dirt Drop, the 
stylish bikes get the traditional stem. If I only had one bike - it would 
probably have a Dirt Drop. My custom will likely have a lugged, but the 
long top tube will give me the belly clearance. 

Laing
Cocoa FL


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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Philip Williamson]

For my bikes and my riding, I prefer a steel stem, painted to match the 
frame. Aesthetics. 
If you need to get the bars up high, a Salsa or Nitto riser is nice. If the 
frame has plenty of stack, a 90* or -17* stem works for me. 

Nitto riser: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvAwqExATif/ 
Salsa riser: https://www.instagram.com/p/BwFav2_l1tt/ 
-17* Frances stem: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxcp5iJBnFl/
90* Nitto stem: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxBflM7l4u9/ 


Philip 
Santa Rosa, Ca 


On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Evan E.]

Whoa. I think this poem from Jeff H. should be taped to shop walls and work 
benches nationwide:


* * * 

so much depends
upon

a dirt drop
stem

...with Moustache bars or flared drops? In every case.

...with cruiser or North Road bars? Make your case.

...with porteur or Jitensha bars? Edge case.

...with regular ol' drops? Head case.

Technomicon: The ratio of exposed quill shall not exceed that of the 
horizontal extension by > 5/4. 

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

* * * 

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Carl]

Isn't the Nitto riser stem in cro mo the best looking one?

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Arthur Mayfield]

I have a Dirt Drop on my Sam, and a Technomic on my Frank Jones Sr, and both 
were chosen for aesthetics, since either would have put my bars in the right 
position for me. I like the Dirt Drop on bikes with sloping top tubes, and 
Technomics on bikes with level or nearly level top tubes. When you look at them 
from the side (regardless of handlebars), the bikes look better to me if the 
stems follow or approximate the line of the top tube.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[phil k]

I like both! 

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[jandrews]

Jim S, 
have you set this combo up on your Appaloosa?
Care to share thoughts/pics?




On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 11:30:06 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Jeff, how about dirt drop stem and crust towel rack on a Joe Appaloosa? 
> That's what I'm playing around with.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Ash]

I like the looks of Technomic/Tallux stems, but never understood the point 
of a tall stem with downward angle.  If it had a 90 deg or slight upward 
angle I wouldn't have to raise it so high.  So, while the stem itself is 
pretty, overall cockpit setup does not look all that great.

If there was a dirt drop (and in black) with 120mm reach I would  gone with 
that instead of Tallux.


On Friday, 17 May 2019 07:16:40 UTC+5:30, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

But seriously, for the Crust Towel Rack I would use some good 1/4" anchors. 
Either that or make sure to hit a beam.

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:56:42 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> That reminds me of the old joke, starts out, IIRC, This stem walks into a 
> bar and says, Hey, give me a wrap...
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:28:20 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>
>> It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every 
>> stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment.  A stem w/o a bar, a 
>> bar w/o a bike, a bike w/o a rider, a rider w/o a ride and a ride and 
>> everything included in that ride w/o Life Itself is unimaginable.  Life is 
>> Good , The Best  and there is none else ! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>>>
>>> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first 
>>> reaction is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to 
>>> like it. But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit 
>>> this is a first-world problem)
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That reminds me of the old joke, starts out, IIRC, This stem walks into a 
bar and says, Hey, give me a wrap...

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:28:20 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
> It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every 
> stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment.  A stem w/o a bar, a 
> bar w/o a bike, a bike w/o a rider, a rider w/o a ride and a ride and 
> everything included in that ride w/o Life Itself is unimaginable.  Life is 
> Good , The Best  and there is none else ! 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>>
>> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
>> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
>> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
>> first-world problem)
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Garth]

It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every 
stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment.  A stem w/o a bar, a 
bar w/o a bike, a bike w/o a rider, a rider w/o a ride and a ride and 
everything included in that ride w/o Life Itself is unimaginable.  Life is 
Good , The Best  and there is none else ! 



On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. 
>
> I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction 
> is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it. 
> But the technomic is more elegant. Do others agree? (Yes I admit this is a 
> first-world problem)
>

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Joe Bernard]

Crust Towel Rack throws the whole thing into the realm of madness. DirtDrop, 
0°, whatever you want, it's madness!

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Justin Schoop]

Technomic all the way.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[sameness]

Controversial. The classic randonneur upsweep gets a No from me. The flare 
gets a Yes from me. The width confounds me.

I say Do It. Bonus points if your stem is black. 

(You sure you don't need one of those zero extension stems? Those bars are 
about four feet wide.)

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:30:06 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Jeff, how about dirt drop stem and crust towel rack on a Joe Appaloosa? 
> That's what I'm playing around with.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[Jim S.]

Jeff, how about dirt drop stem and crust towel rack on a Joe Appaloosa? That's 
what I'm playing around with.

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

[sameness]

so much depends
upon

a dirt drop
stem

...with Moustache bars or flared drops? In every case.

...with cruiser or North Road bars? Make your case.

...with porteur or Jitensha bars? Edge case.

...with regular ol' drops? Head case.

Technomicon: The ratio of exposed quill shall not exceed that of the 
horizontal extension by > 5/4. 

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, Jim, I agree.  I'd never use a Dirt Drop on one of my bikes, for that 
reason.  .  

Dave

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