Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using an Appaloosa as a mostly-road bike?

2023-06-19 Thread Ted W 
Fun to hear these descriptions and advice. As a soon to be Appa owner
planning to use it for 80/20, on/off-road I’ll be setting it up mostly as a
road bike but, really looking for an all-terrain bike with big tire
clearance and a road-ish feel.

Also, Collin, thank you for sharing your experience with the Appa and
drops. I’ve got a purple Appa coming in and I was worried about ETT being
so long with drops. If I may ask (and I don’t want to derail the main convo
so feel free to reply to me direct), what length stem do you normally use
for drops and compared with what you’re using on the Appa? I’ve been trying
to sort out what I’ll need and I think I’ve narrowed it down but would love
some direct experience to influence my decision.

PS. I don’t think your images uploaded correctly, they’re not showing up
for me either on the Google groups page or via email.

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 1:26 PM Collin A  wrote:

> I had my 51 650b Joe setup as a mostly road/dirt touring bike for a couple
> years, and it has gone through many iterations since then (currently living
> life as a 1x9 flatland commuter). Is it a road race bike? No. Is it a fun
> bike to ride on the road and connect the many dirt trails/roads/etc. that a
> road bike would struggle on? Yes.
>
> It was already mentioned, but short stems are your friend, and personally
> I like the more modern-style drops with shorter reach and drop. A couple
> photos for inspiration from Auburn area dirt trails:
>
> I'd think your legolas would fit that niche better than a Joe, but at the
> same time I wouldn't dare suggest to someone on this list to not buy
> another Rivendell.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sunny Berkeley
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>> Hi all, can’t remember the last time I posted.   Long-time Rivendell
>> rider, since 1998 or so; my current stable includes Atlantis, Legolas,
>> Custom, Rambouillet, Heron Road, maybe one or two others (I gave my
>> Quickbeam to a friend when my knees got to creaky for fixed gear riding).
>>
>> My current curiosity/notion/interest is whether I should add an Appaloosa
>> to the flock.  If any of you ride one as a mostly-road, perhaps drop-bar
>> bike, I would be grateful for your impressions, feedback.
>>
>> I do a fair amount of road + steep gravel rides - - if you are familiar
>> with Sonoma County, that means Coleman Valley + Willow Creek, and Sonoma
>> Mountain Road + Bald Mountain.  I’m interested in a bike that does well on
>> pavement and rides well on steep, rutted, dirt and gravel roads.
>>
>> Grateful for any opinions and feedback, thanks.
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone using an Appaloosa as a mostly-road bike?

2023-06-19 Thread Collin A 
I had my 51 650b Joe setup as a mostly road/dirt touring bike for a couple 
years, and it has gone through many iterations since then (currently living 
life as a 1x9 flatland commuter). Is it a road race bike? No. Is it a fun 
bike to ride on the road and connect the many dirt trails/roads/etc. that a 
road bike would struggle on? Yes. 

It was already mentioned, but short stems are your friend, and personally I 
like the more modern-style drops with shorter reach and drop. A couple 
photos for inspiration from Auburn area dirt trails:

I'd think your legolas would fit that niche better than a Joe, but at the 
same time I wouldn't dare suggest to someone on this list to not buy 
another Rivendell.

Cheers,
Collin in Sunny Berkeley

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Hi all, can’t remember the last time I posted.   Long-time Rivendell 
> rider, since 1998 or so; my current stable includes Atlantis, Legolas, 
> Custom, Rambouillet, Heron Road, maybe one or two others (I gave my 
> Quickbeam to a friend when my knees got to creaky for fixed gear riding).
>
> My current curiosity/notion/interest is whether I should add an Appaloosa 
> to the flock.  If any of you ride one as a mostly-road, perhaps drop-bar 
> bike, I would be grateful for your impressions, feedback.  
>
> I do a fair amount of road + steep gravel rides - - if you are familiar 
> with Sonoma County, that means Coleman Valley + Willow Creek, and Sonoma 
> Mountain Road + Bald Mountain.  I’m interested in a bike that does well on 
> pavement and rides well on steep, rutted, dirt and gravel roads.
>
> Grateful for any opinions and feedback, thanks.
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using an Appaloosa as a mostly-road bike?

2023-06-19 Thread larson....@gmail.com 
I’ll give you my two cents. I ride a previous generation 62cm 2TT Appaloosa 
set up with Billie bars and a 64cm Black Mountain Cycles monstercross bike 
with drop bars. I ride pavement, gravel and dirt roads which can be steep 
and rutted, but mostly in good shape. I really like the Appaloosa as an all 
arounder and could see it being set up with drop bars-it is smooth and 
comfortable and very stable. I do not think it would feel like a road bike 
in any set up because of the long chain stays, and it is a heavy bike 
(although it rides lighter than it feels). Both bikes are set up with 
700x47 tires and by comparison my Black Mountain Cycles feels much quicker 
in handling, yet still stable enough to handle any rough gravel road. I 
think you might find the Appaloosa too much bike, and to me seems more like 
a mixed terrain touring bike. As far as Rivendells, I would think a Sam 
Hillborne would be a better drop bar choice for your needs with shorter 
chai stays, slightly quicker handling and the ability to run a good sized 
tire. I would like a Hillborne to complement my Appaloosa, but my BMC works 
so well that I can’t really justify it. Maybe someone will give you some 
thoughts on a Roadini for your purposes.
Randy in Wisconsin

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:36:33 AM UTC-5 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Hi all, can’t remember the last time I posted.   Long-time Rivendell 
> rider, since 1998 or so; my current stable includes Atlantis, Legolas, 
> Custom, Rambouillet, Heron Road, maybe one or two others (I gave my 
> Quickbeam to a friend when my knees got to creaky for fixed gear riding).
>
> My current curiosity/notion/interest is whether I should add an Appaloosa 
> to the flock.  If any of you ride one as a mostly-road, perhaps drop-bar 
> bike, I would be grateful for your impressions, feedback.  
>
> I do a fair amount of road + steep gravel rides - - if you are familiar 
> with Sonoma County, that means Coleman Valley + Willow Creek, and Sonoma 
> Mountain Road + Bald Mountain.  I’m interested in a bike that does well on 
> pavement and rides well on steep, rutted, dirt and gravel roads.
>
> Grateful for any opinions and feedback, thanks.
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>

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