[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-29 Thread masmojo
I find the bolt aren't too difficult, if you are in a small town you can find 
them on ebay.
Along those lines I recommend M5 & M6 taps. Typically, there's enough paint 
built up in there that trying to thread a bolt in is near impossible.
All the Rivendell frames I've bought(3) came with 110mm BBs; very few cranks 
will clear the chains stays when using a 110BB, but I doubt I would buy one 
until I get the frame & see if my crank fits & if it doesn't,  I have some idea 
how much wider I'll need. Typically, I think I've gone to 118mm. 
It is the little things that trip you up! 

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-23 Thread Ed Carolipio
You're welcome ... but you can thank me (and the group) better by posting 
pictures once you've got it built up. :)

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:14:30 PM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Thanks Ed, much appreciated.  When I lived in Denver, finding M4/M5/M6 
> bolts, especially stainless, were fairly easy to find.  That is not 
> necessarily true now that I live in a smaller midwest town.  I thought the 
> other day that my bike building days will end, not when I run out of parts, 
> but when I run out of bolts, screws and spacers!
>
> I think the Appaloosa will start off without fenders, with the idea of 
> exploring local dirt and gravel roads, but there is more rain here than in 
> Colorado so fenders may come later.  Part of that answer will be decided by 
> what size tires feel right on the bike.
>
> Thanks for the help and the experience with the mount points.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>> For a canti build, someone mentioned the hangers already but I found I 
>> needed to adjust the headset spacers (1" silver, 2.5mm or 5mm thick, having 
>> a handful is nice) to accommodate the front hanger since I ran out of fork 
>> using the spacer included with the frame. I also snapped the seat post bolt 
>> troubleshooting slippage so I recommend having some spare M6x25mm bolts 
>> (20mm may be long enough) with matching lock nuts handy.
>>
>> There are three potential mount points for the rear rack: two are M6 (as 
>> others have pointed out), with the third, rearmost one as M5. Most folks 
>> run a fender on the M5 mount, but I won't judge you if you rebel against 
>> convention. Of the two M6 mount points, if you choose the dropout one, I 
>> suggest getting in the fenders in at the same time: the two mount points 
>> are close enough that there may be minor gymnastics involved to get all of 
>> that to work together. I opted for the seat stay mount, and that has worked 
>> well for me and my commuter bags/panniers plus no issues with heel strike.
>>
>> Note that "thick washer/spacer" (I think they're 2.5mm) which Riv sells 
>> are for M5 bolts, so I couldn't use them to space out the rear rack whilst 
>> opting for the M6 mounts.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Thanks Ed, much appreciated.  When I lived in Denver, finding M4/M5/M6 
bolts, especially stainless, were fairly easy to find.  That is not 
necessarily true now that I live in a smaller midwest town.  I thought the 
other day that my bike building days will end, not when I run out of parts, 
but when I run out of bolts, screws and spacers!

I think the Appaloosa will start off without fenders, with the idea of 
exploring local dirt and gravel roads, but there is more rain here than in 
Colorado so fenders may come later.  Part of that answer will be decided by 
what size tires feel right on the bike.

Thanks for the help and the experience with the mount points.

Bob

   

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
> For a canti build, someone mentioned the hangers already but I found I 
> needed to adjust the headset spacers (1" silver, 2.5mm or 5mm thick, having 
> a handful is nice) to accommodate the front hanger since I ran out of fork 
> using the spacer included with the frame. I also snapped the seat post bolt 
> troubleshooting slippage so I recommend having some spare M6x25mm bolts 
> (20mm may be long enough) with matching lock nuts handy.
>
> There are three potential mount points for the rear rack: two are M6 (as 
> others have pointed out), with the third, rearmost one as M5. Most folks 
> run a fender on the M5 mount, but I won't judge you if you rebel against 
> convention. Of the two M6 mount points, if you choose the dropout one, I 
> suggest getting in the fenders in at the same time: the two mount points 
> are close enough that there may be minor gymnastics involved to get all of 
> that to work together. I opted for the seat stay mount, and that has worked 
> well for me and my commuter bags/panniers plus no issues with heel strike.
>
> Note that "thick washer/spacer" (I think they're 2.5mm) which Riv sells 
> are for M5 bolts, so I couldn't use them to space out the rear rack whilst 
> opting for the M6 mounts.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Ed Carolipio
For a canti build, someone mentioned the hangers already but I found I 
needed to adjust the headset spacers (1" silver, 2.5mm or 5mm thick, having 
a handful is nice) to accommodate the front hanger since I ran out of fork 
using the spacer included with the frame. I also snapped the seat post bolt 
troubleshooting slippage so I recommend having some spare M6x25mm bolts 
(20mm may be long enough) with matching lock nuts handy.

There are three potential mount points for the rear rack: two are M6 (as 
others have pointed out), with the third, rearmost one as M5. Most folks 
run a fender on the M5 mount, but I won't judge you if you rebel against 
convention. Of the two M6 mount points, if you choose the dropout one, I 
suggest getting in the fenders in at the same time: the two mount points 
are close enough that there may be minor gymnastics involved to get all of 
that to work together. I opted for the seat stay mount, and that has worked 
well for me and my commuter bags/panniers plus no issues with heel strike.

Note that "thick washer/spacer" (I think they're 2.5mm) which Riv sells are 
for M5 bolts, so I couldn't use them to space out the rear rack whilst 
opting for the M6 mounts.

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Michael Morrissey
Canti hangers and an extra long chain

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Absolutely!  I was just there yesterday...  and might be today as well!

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:32:15 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Just make sure when you are done you post a photo from in front of Uncle 
> Billy's
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Just make sure when you are done you post a photo from in front of Uncle 
Billy's

BL in EC

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> While waiting for e-mails with news of frame shipments and delivery dates, 
> I am putting together pieces and parts for building up a 58cm Appaloosa.  I 
> think I have or am collecting most things but it dawned on me that I might 
> need the extra long rear derailleur cable that Riv sells, maybe other 
> things that I have not thought about.  I know I will need two chains for 
> instance, or at least 1.x chains for the long chainstays.
>
> Is there anything else that anyone has run into on an Appaloosa or Clem 
> build that surprised them?  I am thinking not but thought it worth asking.
>
> Anyway, all help appreciated!
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

2017-03-22 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Thanks Joe...

I do remember you mentioning the 6 vs 5mm difference when you were doing 
your build.  Good thing to remember, so thanks.

I did call Riv the other day to ask about BB's and seatposts.  Rich said he 
thought they came with 111mm BB's.  He also told me that the Appa's use 
26.8 seatposts, so out went my stash of 27.2's.  I know a post comes with 
the frame, and it is probably just fine(!), but I am always looking at 
options.  One thing I could not decide on from pictures, and it's 
impossible to know until I try it out or better study the numbers, but does 
a 250mm length seatpost work or does it need to be longer (300, 350)?  We 
shall see and as long as I have something that works, that's 98% of it.  

I had not planned on buying a new bike but I just could not resist... 
strike when the right color and bike shows up!

Bob

 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:05:38 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Some of the rear rack braze-ons are 6mm, not 5. I discovered this with a 
> Clem when I tried to thread a bolt in and it was loose..Appa has the same 
> arrangement. If I recall correctly the seatpost is 26.8, but I think your 
> frame comes with a seatpost. 

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