[RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[Gabriel Hargrove]

Andrew,

My 2007 Toyo Atlantis currently has a 68x118 BB paired with a Sun XCD with 
46/30 chainrings. Its a double crankset, but for what it's worth, that's 
what I'm running. 

Gabriel 
Huntington Beach, CA

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 1:36:37 PM UTC-8, AMAC wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my 
> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB 
> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58" 
> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a 
> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is 
> 24t.  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[dougP]

Andrew:

My 58 cm came with a 115 (maybe 116?) BB in 2003, and it worked fine.  When 
it finally conked out, I went 110 & there it was a close fit, but worked.  
After that one died, I went with a 113 mm, which gives comfortable 
clearance with the chainstay.  The crankset has always been the Sugino 
triple that came with the bike (24 tooth inner ring).  

The Atlantis has had some subtle changes over the years, but Gabriel's 
experience with an '07 & my experience with an '03 show that various BB 
lengths work.  Do you know what year yours is?  Or what the serial number 
is?  The serial number on mine is AT 00519.

dougP

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 1:36:37 PM UTC-8, AMAC wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my 
> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB 
> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58" 
> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a 
> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is 
> 24t.  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[Garth]

  The Toyo Atlantis with a stock 24/26/46 XD triple originally was 
suggested by Riv with a 107, but later they changed that to 110 or 113. 
Everyone's idea of "enough" clearance of the rings to frame varies, and no 
2 frames are ever exactly alike.  It should be noted, the driveside axle 
length of a 107 is the same as the 110, but you can add some spacers under 
the lip and extend that side out up to about 2mm. Chainline was in the 
45-46mm range. If you have a 113 however you could just use that too. I 
believe the spec'd chainline with a 113 is about 47,5mm, actual chainline 
will vary !  


   On my Bombadil, which has the same very bowed out stays from the BB, I 
used the XD with 24/36/48 rings and a 110 BB with 1.5mm spacers behind the 
DS lip. Clearance was fine. As I said, I coulda used a 113 which would 
offer a slightly wider chainline, but a 110 was what I had so I went with 
that.  




On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 4:36:37 PM UTC-5, AMAC wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my 
> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB 
> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58" 
> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a 
> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is 
> 24t.  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[AMAC]

Hey.  Thanks all!  Will likely give 113 a try next week.

Thanks again,

Andrew

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 12:45:57 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
>
>   The Toyo Atlantis with a stock 24/26/46 XD triple originally was 
> suggested by Riv with a 107, but later they changed that to 110 or 113. 
> Everyone's idea of "enough" clearance of the rings to frame varies, and no 
> 2 frames are ever exactly alike.  It should be noted, the driveside axle 
> length of a 107 is the same as the 110, but you can add some spacers under 
> the lip and extend that side out up to about 2mm. Chainline was in the 
> 45-46mm range. If you have a 113 however you could just use that too. I 
> believe the spec'd chainline with a 113 is about 47,5mm, actual chainline 
> will vary !  
>
>
>On my Bombadil, which has the same very bowed out stays from the BB, I 
> used the XD with 24/36/48 rings and a 110 BB with 1.5mm spacers behind the 
> DS lip. Clearance was fine. As I said, I coulda used a 113 which would 
> offer a slightly wider chainline, but a 110 was what I had so I went with 
> that.  
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 4:36:37 PM UTC-5, AMAC wrote:
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my 
>> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB 
>> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58" 
>> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a 
>> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is 
>> 24t.  
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[Andrew MacDonald]

Excellent!  Thanks for the info.  Serial # AT00951.

-Andrew

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:35 PM dougP  wrote:

> Andrew:
>
> My 58 cm came with a 115 (maybe 116?) BB in 2003, and it worked fine.
> When it finally conked out, I went 110 & there it was a close fit, but
> worked.  After that one died, I went with a 113 mm, which gives comfortable
> clearance with the chainstay.  The crankset has always been the Sugino
> triple that came with the bike (24 tooth inner ring).
>
> The Atlantis has had some subtle changes over the years, but Gabriel's
> experience with an '07 & my experience with an '03 show that various BB
> lengths work.  Do you know what year yours is?  Or what the serial number
> is?  The serial number on mine is AT 00519.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 1:36:37 PM UTC-8, AMAC wrote:
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my
>> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB
>> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58"
>> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a
>> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is
>> 24t.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[maxcr]

This link from Peter White might also come in handy:
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.php
Max

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