Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Like most things Berthoud, at $250 (more if you like cork finish) it is not cheap. I have had execellent success the past 2 years on Selle Anatomicas. I got 2 from RBW when they were about $159. I see them now at $136 online (Outside Outfitters) and close to that elsewhere. As per Grant's original write up, they quickly go to full adjustment, but then they stay there a long time. I have 2 slotted styles and one without a slot (which I actually prefer). Don't know if Berthoud does this, but Selle will re-skin a worn out saddle for $75. Time will tell how well Berthouds stand up to use. Brooks of course is still a reasonable choice at $95 (Nashbar, mabe less elsewhere for a B17) but I am not a lover of the break in period. From: EricP To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 7:25:01 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review Another one to say "thanks" for the review. Looked at them when they first showed up. Unfortunately, am probably too heavy (230) for the saddle. As well as wanting something a little wider. Oh well. They do look beautiful. Especially the "cork" version. Have held that one in my hands. My non-professional opinion is of very high quality. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Another one to say "thanks" for the review. Looked at them when they first showed up. Unfortunately, am probably too heavy (230) for the saddle. As well as wanting something a little wider. Oh well. They do look beautiful. Especially the "cork" version. Have held that one in my hands. My non-professional opinion is of very high quality. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Nov 28, 9:02�pm, John Ferguson wrote: > Hi all, > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a little > review. > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Hi John. I'm just very curious how the saddle stands up to rain. You mentioned you had been putting in mostly rainy miles. Did you use a saddle cover? How'd the saddle behave? Corwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: > if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch of > the banana...so to speak. I second that comment. When I first got my Brooks, I slid around quite a bit on it, both from the recommended coat of Proofide and the unoptimized saddle tilt adjustment. I was almost ready to call it quits when I read about how saddle tilt angles are very important for Brooks saddles, so I spent a bit of time adjusting it by small increments. It's actually quite magical once the correct angle is set for one's bum and when the saddle is more or less broken in - the saddle disappears underneath. But you're right. Everyone's anatomy is a bit different so this may not have worked for you. Thanks for the Berthoud saddle review! It's definitely a pretty saddle. That thick leather do inspire confidence of durability and quality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
I have never understood why Riv doesnt sell the Brooks B135. I have tried alot of saddles and its the most comfortable of any. No, for those who are worried about adding an extra 8 ounces, I can't save you, but I wish more folks would give it a try. I even wish Berthoud would make one, very nice looking! Everyone who tries one goes mad! SurF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
According to the Wallingford Bike Parts website, the Berthoud men's saddle measures 162 x 277. The Berthoud woman's saddle measures 162 x 247. It appears a Bethoud racing saddle is not available, at least for now. On Nov 29, 12:26 pm, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > Do you know the dimensions of the Berthoud "race" saddle? It sounds > promising. > Has anyone compared the current Berthoud saddle with the Brooks Swift? > > Cheers, > Ryan > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:55, Pete wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the review and for charring pictures of such beautiful > > piece of art! > > The cork version certainly look the business but I'm also not to fond > > of the plastic rear. I'll will wait for the the narrow race version > > that will be available soon, problem is there doesn't seem to be any > > saddle bag mounts: > >http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/09/02/new-berthoud-race-saddle/ > > Cork: > >http://www.core77.com/gallery/EUROBIKE%20SHOW%202009/92.asp?current_i... > > Another review: > >http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/gilles-berthoud-gents-leather-... > > > On 29 Nov, 04:47, Aaron Thomas wrote: > >> John, > > >> Thanks for posting the saddle review. But even more thanks to the > >> link > >> of pics of your fine bike. I really like what you did with the red > >> tape and amber shellac. The ruby color is quite elegant. > > >> Aaron > > >> On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: > > >>> if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > >>> direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch > >>> of > >>> the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the > >>> best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to > >>> find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new > >>> saddle. > > >>> On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a > little > review. > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > John > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > .- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
If I may put a plug in for another alternative, it's the Selle Anatomica either with or without the slot - without the slot, it's quite cheap, long lasting, and very very comfortable. They're 70.00 new. I have found with the Brooks, once they get rained on and molded into the "wrong" shape, it's hard to get them out of that ridge in the center shape; but sometimes the rain actually helps break them in. I have one that's almost 30 years old, and while it's beat up, it's quite comfortable; then I have a 2 year old one that was great til it had the knife blade profile from rain...since then, un changeable. Contrarily the selle anatomicas were great right out of the box, and only have gotten better. The first one I got on ebay has the slot, and the seller was nice enough to toss in matching leather bar tape; the next 2 were new and without the slot, and are equally comfortable right out of the box; and they seem to have a long life span as well. On Nov 29, 4:31 pm, Pete wrote: > John, your not alone. I've bought four Swift saddles as good as new > from people who for various reasons didn't get on with them. I also > had trouble with setting up the first one and ended up moving it all > the way back and raised the nose slightly. From then on it's has been > very comfy and just getting better each year. > > On Nov 29, 9:36 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > > > > > "The pictures of of John's Toei with the > > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position" > > > That was one of many unsuccessful experiments in positioning that > > saddle. I'm just not comfortable in the crotch of the banana :-) > > > Again, as I emphasized--saddles are a very individual choice. I think > > if you compare a Brooks and a Berthoud, it's clear which one is better > > constructed. > > > However, quality is really a secondary consideration. Considering how > > much time I spend on a bike, even if the Brooks had to be replaced > > every 2 years because of shoddy construction, I'd use it if it were > > more comfortable. > > > Luckily the Berthoud works better for my backside. In fact, I was > > impressed enough to write the review (something I'd never ordinarily > > bother doing). Your mileage may vary. > > > John > > > On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, RonaTD wrote: > > > > Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the > > > tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be > > > very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, > > > more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar > > > tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the > > > nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the > > > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, > > > people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs > > > to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her > > > Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a > > > ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. > > > > Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they > > > warp and twist. > > > > Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
John, your not alone. I've bought four Swift saddles as good as new from people who for various reasons didn't get on with them. I also had trouble with setting up the first one and ended up moving it all the way back and raised the nose slightly. From then on it's has been very comfy and just getting better each year. On Nov 29, 9:36 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > "The pictures of of John's Toei with the > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position" > > That was one of many unsuccessful experiments in positioning that > saddle. I'm just not comfortable in the crotch of the banana :-) > > Again, as I emphasized--saddles are a very individual choice. I think > if you compare a Brooks and a Berthoud, it's clear which one is better > constructed. > > However, quality is really a secondary consideration. Considering how > much time I spend on a bike, even if the Brooks had to be replaced > every 2 years because of shoddy construction, I'd use it if it were > more comfortable. > > Luckily the Berthoud works better for my backside. In fact, I was > impressed enough to write the review (something I'd never ordinarily > bother doing). Your mileage may vary. > > John > > On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, RonaTD wrote: > > > Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the > > tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be > > very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, > > more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar > > tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the > > nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the > > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, > > people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs > > to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her > > Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a > > ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. > > > Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they > > warp and twist. > > > Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
"The pictures of of John's Toei with the Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position" That was one of many unsuccessful experiments in positioning that saddle. I'm just not comfortable in the crotch of the banana :-) Again, as I emphasized--saddles are a very individual choice. I think if you compare a Brooks and a Berthoud, it's clear which one is better constructed. However, quality is really a secondary consideration. Considering how much time I spend on a bike, even if the Brooks had to be replaced every 2 years because of shoddy construction, I'd use it if it were more comfortable. Luckily the Berthoud works better for my backside. In fact, I was impressed enough to write the review (something I'd never ordinarily bother doing). Your mileage may vary. John On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, RonaTD wrote: > Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the > tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be > very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, > more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar > tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the > nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the > Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, > people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs > to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her > Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a > ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. > > Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they > warp and twist. > > Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Sorry Ryan, I only know what you can read in those links. My guess is it's very close to the Brooks Swift/Swallow witch are great for a more forward leaning position: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/saddles/brooks-swift.html Like John mentioned in he's review there will also be matching leather bar tape and bar end plugs. But I'd like to use cotton bar tape and shellac so I might get the natural hide and dye it brown. One detail that I find particularly interesting is that the rails allow the saddle to be mounted one or two cm further back. The usable part of the rails on my Swift are a bit short and my Mercian on the verge of being to small. More Berthoud pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallblog/3904651113/in/set-72157620611802884/ On Nov 29, 7:26 pm, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > Do you know the dimensions of the Berthoud "race" saddle? It sounds > promising. > Has anyone compared the current Berthoud saddle with the Brooks Swift? > > Cheers, > Ryan > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:55, Pete wrote: > > > Thanks for the review and for charring pictures of such beautiful > > piece of art! > > The cork version certainly look the business but I'm also not to fond > > of the plastic rear. I'll will wait for the the narrow race version > > that will be available soon, problem is there doesn't seem to be any > > saddle bag mounts: > >http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/09/02/new-berthoud-race-saddle/ > > Cork: > >http://www.core77.com/gallery/EUROBIKE%20SHOW%202009/92.asp?current_i... > > Another review: > >http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/gilles-berthoud-gents-leather-... > > > On 29 Nov, 04:47, Aaron Thomas wrote: > >> John, > > >> Thanks for posting the saddle review. But even more thanks to the > >> link > >> of pics of your fine bike. I really like what you did with the red > >> tape and amber shellac. The ruby color is quite elegant. > > >> Aaron > > >> On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: > > >>> if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > >>> direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch > >>> of > >>> the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the > >>> best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to > >>> find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new > >>> saddle. > > >>> On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a > little > review. > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > John > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Do you know the dimensions of the Berthoud "race" saddle? It sounds promising. Has anyone compared the current Berthoud saddle with the Brooks Swift? Cheers, Ryan On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:55, Pete wrote: > Thanks for the review and for charring pictures of such beautiful > piece of art! > The cork version certainly look the business but I'm also not to fond > of the plastic rear. I'll will wait for the the narrow race version > that will be available soon, problem is there doesn't seem to be any > saddle bag mounts: > http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/09/02/new-berthoud-race-saddle/ > Cork: > http://www.core77.com/gallery/EUROBIKE%20SHOW%202009/92.asp?current_image_number=57¤t_photo_id=13766&album_id=108&context_id=1 > Another review: > http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/gilles-berthoud-gents-leather-saddle-first-ride/4567.html > > On 29 Nov, 04:47, Aaron Thomas wrote: >> John, >> >> Thanks for posting the saddle review. But even more thanks to the >> link >> of pics of your fine bike. I really like what you did with the red >> tape and amber shellac. The ruby color is quite elegant. >> >> Aaron >> >> On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: >> >>> if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one >>> direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch >>> of >>> the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the >>> best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to >>> find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new >>> saddle. >> >>> On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: >> Hi all, >> I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a little review. >> Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. >> http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo >> John > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Ditto on the suggestion for B17 owners to spend time playing with the tilt if you're having sliding trouble. The right tilt appears to be very much a function of how upright your position is. More upright, more nose up. I don't have a particularly upright position - handlebar tops a bit below saddle on most of my bikes, and I find I need the nose higher than the tail. The pictures of of John's Toei with the Brooks show a pretty extreme nose-down position. In my experience, people are reluctant to bring the nose up as high as it really needs to be. My wife complained about sliding forward on the B67 on her Glorius and I ended up raising the nose to what I thought was a ridiculous amount. "Eureka!" Instant comfort and joy. Personally, my biggest problem with B17 saddles is the amount they warp and twist. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
On 11/28/09, eflayer wrote: > if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch of > the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the > best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to > find. The only Brooks I found comfortable at all was the Pro -- I had tried the B17, B17n and, off road, the Flyer -- and with that, even after 18 months, I still could not get the tilt just right: either it goosed me or I was sliding forward; and this was on a seatpost with a very easily adjustable tilt feature. Now Flites: those I can set up and be comfortable on immediately ... -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
Thanks for the review and for charring pictures of such beautiful piece of art! The cork version certainly look the business but I'm also not to fond of the plastic rear. I'll will wait for the the narrow race version that will be available soon, problem is there doesn't seem to be any saddle bag mounts: http://wallbike.com/blog/2009/09/02/new-berthoud-race-saddle/ Cork: http://www.core77.com/gallery/EUROBIKE%20SHOW%202009/92.asp?current_image_number=57¤t_photo_id=13766&album_id=108&context_id=1 Another review: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/gilles-berthoud-gents-leather-saddle-first-ride/4567.html On 29 Nov, 04:47, Aaron Thomas wrote: > John, > > Thanks for posting the saddle review. But even more thanks to the link > of pics of your fine bike. I really like what you did with the red > tape and amber shellac. The ruby color is quite elegant. > > Aaron > > On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: > > > if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > > direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch of > > the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the > > best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to > > find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new > > saddle. > > > On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > > > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a little > > > review. > > > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > > >http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > > > John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
John, Thanks for posting the saddle review. But even more thanks to the link of pics of your fine bike. I really like what you did with the red tape and amber shellac. The ruby color is quite elegant. Aaron On Nov 28, 7:30 pm, eflayer wrote: > if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one > direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch of > the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the > best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to > find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new > saddle. > > On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a little > > review. > > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > >http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > > John > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review
if your Brooks was set up correctly, you would not slide in one direction of the other. You would be cradled nicely in the crotch of the banana...so to speak. Not saying your current choice is not the best for you, but the sweet spot for a Brooks may not be easy to find. And thanks for the review and good luck on that fine new saddle. On Nov 28, 7:02 pm, John Ferguson wrote: > Hi all, > > I've had a chance to ride 500 or 600 miles on a Berthoud saddle. To > say I'm quite pleased would be an understatement, so I wrote a little > review. > > Apologies to those of you who saw this elsewhere. > > http://tinyurl.com/yz98jdo > > John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
