Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-15 Thread Mike On A Bike
Does anybody know if ShinShields actually solve the problem of water 
getting into shoes? My long-legged self experiences a large gap with the 
Riv rain paints (bikegods forbid making a thin + tall sized pant!) and this 
is the only weakness in my otherwise hermetically sealed raingear. I don't 
mind forking up $24 or whatever for them if they're actually effective. 

On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:23:23 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 I use my hiking boots (old-style Vasque Sundowners) for cold and cold+wet. 
 In warmer conditions, I use the MUSA Splats, which work well, but are a bit 
 large for my shoes (Men's US10). 

 Anyone use gaiters? I'm thinking of getting a set for hiking and cycling. 
 The biggest problem for riding in heavy rain is water getting into my boots 
 or shoes, which maybe the gaiters could help alleviate. (I'd go for the 
 MUSA ShinShields, but I'd rather spring for rolls of Saran Wrap.)



 On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:39:45 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Man whatever works for you is what works best. 
 On Feb 10, 2014 12:38 PM, Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:

 The Lake boots are gore-tex (or a similar material, I forget) and have 
 ratcheting laces, both of which are decidedly high-tech.  While I'm in 
 agreement that lycra is probably what Satan wears to exercise I'm less 
 tolerant to getting wet.  I guess riding in socks or barefoot is an 
 option but it's not for me.

 On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:28 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of 
 Lake winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay 
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho 
 setup,   
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe 
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry 
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike

  
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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-14 Thread Tony
No, but I used to use the Pro-route spats. They look a little more vented 
than the Duxback. Those go with the cape with the hood and might be a good 
combination elsewhere, but in my area the Pro-route line handles even the 
worst rainy weather. I actually bought the Carradice cape from RBW before 
they carried their own brand. I haven't worn out the cape, but I like shin 
shields and splats better than the Carradice spats. Oh, I'm sorry did I 
spit?

Tony

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:14:01 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 Anyone tried those Garradixe duxback spats?

  http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productproduct_id=71


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-13 Thread Steven Frederick
Mine have been a good investment as well-this was my 5th season with them.
Had to have the stitching touched up a couple of years ago, and this year
added new insoles but they've been otherwise trouble free.  DEFINITELY
worth the money if you want to ride clipless in cold weather!

Steve


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:

 My Lake winter boots are EXTREMELY popular with me!
 cheers,
 Andrew

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 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake
 winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area.
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover,
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-13 Thread Matthew J
Lake boots - or anything neoprene for that matter - would seem a little too 
warm as soon as the temps get much above 40.  40 to 60 range I still want 
to keep rain from soaking my shoes but don't want my feet to soak from the 
inside.

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:15:29 AM UTC-6, stevef wrote:

 Mine have been a good investment as well-this was my 5th season with 
 them.  Had to have the stitching touched up a couple of years ago, and this 
 year added new insoles but they've been otherwise trouble free.  DEFINITELY 
 worth the money if you want to ride clipless in cold weather!

 Steve


 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript:
  wrote:

 My Lake winter boots are EXTREMELY popular with me!
 cheers,
 Andrew

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 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of 
 Lake winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay 
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe 
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry 
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Tonester
I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake 
winter boots and they're awesome

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Tonester
The Lake boots are gore-tex (or a similar material, I forget) and have 
ratcheting laces, both of which are decidedly high-tech.  While I'm in 
agreement that lycra is probably what Satan wears to exercise I'm less 
tolerant to getting wet.  I guess riding in socks or barefoot is an 
option but it's not for me.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:28 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of 
 Lake winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay 
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe 
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry 
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike

  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Peter Morgano
Man whatever works for you is what works best.
On Feb 10, 2014 12:38 PM, Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Lake boots are gore-tex (or a similar material, I forget) and have
 ratcheting laces, both of which are decidedly high-tech.  While I'm in
 agreement that lycra is probably what Satan wears to exercise I'm less
 tolerant to getting wet.  I guess riding in socks or barefoot is an
 option but it's not for me.

 On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:28 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of
 Lake winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I use my hiking boots (old-style Vasque Sundowners) for cold and cold+wet. 
In warmer conditions, I use the MUSA Splats, which work well, but are a bit 
large for my shoes (Men's US10). 

Anyone use gaiters? I'm thinking of getting a set for hiking and cycling. 
The biggest problem for riding in heavy rain is water getting into my boots 
or shoes, which maybe the gaiters could help alleviate. (I'd go for the 
MUSA ShinShields, but I'd rather spring for rolls of Saran Wrap.)



On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:39:45 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Man whatever works for you is what works best. 
 On Feb 10, 2014 12:38 PM, Tonester tony@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 The Lake boots are gore-tex (or a similar material, I forget) and have 
 ratcheting laces, both of which are decidedly high-tech.  While I'm in 
 agreement that lycra is probably what Satan wears to exercise I'm less 
 tolerant to getting wet.  I guess riding in socks or barefoot is an 
 option but it's not for me.

 On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:28 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of 
 Lake winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay 
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup, 
   
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe 
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry 
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike

  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Andrew Letton
My Lake winter boots are EXTREMELY popular with me!
cheers,
Andrew





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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com; Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com 
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy  footwear/boots
 


why would it be Unpopular?


Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote:
I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake 
winter boots and they're awesome

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:
Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area.   I 
like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but Ive 
always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover,   but 
thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for riding 
and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Tim Gavin
+1 for gore-tex hikers.  The lighter-weight ones are just dressed up
sneakers, and will last you about as long.  Quality boots are generally
heavier, but can last forever.  Like a Rivendell.

I wear my Belleville gore-tex combat boots when it's cold  rainy.  I was
issued 3 different pair, so that's the cheap  easy solution for me.  But
they may be found at surplus stores, usually for less than most other
gore-tex hiking boots.  And all US gear is MUSA.

Another MUSA option:  Red Wing boots (you can filter their website by
country of origin!).  I have a pair of 953's I've had for 20 years (I'm 36,
so my entire adult life) that are almost as comfortable as sneakers.  Any
quality leather boot can be made reasonably waterproof with enough
Newbaum's, or silicone creme.  The current Chukka or Moc Toe boots could
make great all-rounder shoes for wet weather.  Think of them as Brooks,
fenders, and Marathons for your feet.  :)  (Red Wing owns Irish Setter and
Vasque as well)




On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote:

 My Lake winter boots are EXTREMELY popular with me!
 cheers,
 Andrew

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 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

 why would it be Unpopular?

 Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake
 winter boots and they're awesome

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area.
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover,
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-10 Thread Cecily Walker
Blundstones are quite nice. They look good and are waterproof. You can get 
shearling lined ones for really, really cold conditions. 
 http://www.zappos.com/blundstone-mens-boots~2

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-09 Thread Antonioni Vicente
Someone tell me about this seal skin, please!

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-09 Thread Bill
My Sunday paper comes in a long thin plastic bag that fits snugly over my 
MTB shoes.  I've saved enough to have a nice supply.   A couple of rubber 
bands holds the top and loose parts in check.   I can easily snap in and 
out of SPD pedals without fooling with cutting holes in the sole part. 
 Works well and I always carry a pair when I lose at outsmarting the 
weather forecaster.

On Friday, February 7, 2014 6:19:49 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread dougP
Michael:

My favorite is still wool socks and sandals, but I've never been in 
sub-freezing conditions.  The sandals dry quickly and carrying some spare 
socks to change into works well.  I've hit some day long wet weather on 
tours where no matter what footwear one used it would be soaked.  For a 
commute it might make sense to leave a pair of shoes at work to change 
into.  The sandals will dry in the course of the day, where enclosed shoes 
are hard to get dry without time and / or heating.  I've burned out a hotel 
hair dryer drying enclosed shoes. 

dougP

On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I'd heard about this and was somewhat skeptical. Then on a chilly 
November 300K, a DC area rider came down and rode it dressed like that 
and was comfortable, while my feet got very cold.  I gave it a try and 
am a believer. Thicker socks (cheap at Costco) in Keen sandals works 
great in sub freezing temps. If windy, you can add a wind cover (not too 
tight. Air space is part of why this works). In summer, it's thinner socks.


On 2/8/2014 1:43 PM, dougP wrote:

Michael:

My favorite is still wool socks and sandals, but I've never been in 
sub-freezing conditions.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Air space and circulation are why it works. Anything that limits bloodflow 
greatly harms the ability to keep that part warm. Most shoes are not foot 
shaped, but last shaped, so inherently are foot binders (not just cycling 
shoes, but any shoe). When I went barefoot my foot stayed a size 12 in 
length and widened to a . It starts young. Our kids, who have not been 
in shoes, can't fit into shoes because their feet are foot shaped.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:53:24 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 I'd heard about this and was somewhat skeptical. Then on a chilly 
 November 300K, a DC area rider came down and rode it dressed like that 
 and was comfortable, while my feet got very cold.  I gave it a try and 
 am a believer. Thicker socks (cheap at Costco) in Keen sandals works 
 great in sub freezing temps. If windy, you can add a wind cover (not too 
 tight. Air space is part of why this works). In summer, it's thinner 
 socks. 

 On 2/8/2014 1:43 PM, dougP wrote: 
  Michael: 
  
  My favorite is still wool socks and sandals, but I've never been in 
  sub-freezing conditions. 



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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
+1 for Keens and socks.

I have a pair of seal skins that I use over my regular socks when it is 
raining hard. Keeps me dry a lot longer than the neoprene booties I used to 
use. Those were good for about 20 minutes, then more wet suit than 
waterproof.

Mediterranean climate here though. We get heavy rain in winter but never 
much below 50F. I might to things differently in real cold.

Jay

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:43:08 PM UTC+2, dougP wrote:

 Michael:

 My favorite is still wool socks and sandals, but I've never been in 
 sub-freezing conditions.  The sandals dry quickly and carrying some spare 
 socks to change into works well.  I've hit some day long wet weather on 
 tours where no matter what footwear one used it would be soaked.  For a 
 commute it might make sense to leave a pair of shoes at work to change 
 into.  The sandals will dry in the course of the day, where enclosed shoes 
 are hard to get dry without time and / or heating.  I've burned out a hotel 
 hair dryer drying enclosed shoes. 

 dougP

 On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay 
 Area.   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   
 but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe 
 cover,   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry 
 boots for riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike



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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I forgot to mention those. Remarkable product. You can stand in a puddle 
without getting wet, yet they breathe.

On 2/8/2014 2:45 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

+1 for Keens and socks.

I have a pair of seal skins


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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Matthew J
Don't forgot the inspiration for this board.  MUSA Spatz work well, pack 
compact and light, and look cool in their own peculiar way.




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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-08 Thread Michael


 Anyone tried those Garradixe duxback spats?

 http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productproduct_id=71

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[RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots

2014-02-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's a picture of mine (good down to about 35˚F when wet):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9295761124/in/set-72157634656798828

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:19:49 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey all,  so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. 
   I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup,   but 
 Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, 
   but thats just not cutting it.   What are peoples favorite dry boots for 
 riding and  wearing around??   thanks in advance!   -Mike


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