[RBW] Re: Best Riv Rando Bike

2023-07-28 Thread dylan green
wow all this discussion is making me want a ram more and more. 

On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:19:54 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've done lots of 200k brevets and a couple 300k brevets on a 650B A Homer 
> Hilsen (essentially a Saluki)
> I've done a couple 200s and one 300 on a Hillborne
> I've done one 200 on a Legolas
> I've done one 200 on a Roadeo
> I've done one 200 on a Leo Roadini
>
> In all cases, the bike did great.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 5:55:10 PM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote:
>
>> Looking for thoughts/opinions on best Riv model for randonneuring. Thanks
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv Rando Bike

2023-07-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I've done lots of 200k brevets and a couple 300k brevets on a 650B A Homer 
Hilsen (essentially a Saluki)
I've done a couple 200s and one 300 on a Hillborne
I've done one 200 on a Legolas
I've done one 200 on a Roadeo
I've done one 200 on a Leo Roadini

In all cases, the bike did great.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 5:55:10 PM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote:

> Looking for thoughts/opinions on best Riv model for randonneuring. Thanks
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv Rando Bike

2023-07-26 Thread Nick Payne
On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 1:31:57 am UTC+10 Ed Felker wrote:

This is an interesting question. I rode PBP in 2007 on my coupled Riv 
Bleriot and was comfortable the whole way on Grand Bois 32mm tires. it was 
a fair bit more forgiving than the stiffer Ritchey Logic 700c I rode in 
1999 with 23mm tires. I'm on tandem for PBP this year but if I were to ride 
PBP solo again, I'd take the Bleriot with 38mm tires.


Same here on the Bleriot. I've ridden multiple brevets on mine, mostly shod 
with the Hutchinson  "Confrérie des 650B" tyres.

Nick Payne

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv Rando Bike

2023-07-26 Thread Ed Felker
This is an interesting question. I rode PBP in 2007 on my coupled Riv 
Bleriot and was comfortable the whole way on Grand Bois 32mm tires. it was 
a fair bit more forgiving than the stiffer Ritchey Logic 700c I rode in 
1999 with 23mm tires. I'm on tandem for PBP this year but if I were to ride 
PBP solo again, I'd take the Bleriot with 38mm tires. 

The Riv road-oriented bikes are suitable for randonneur rides with room for 
wider tires, fenders, and baggage. I see them on brevets in the 
Mid-Atlantic region. Of the current models, it would for me come down to 
those with more sloping top tube, the Roadini or the Hilsen.

I rode the old Boston-Montreal-Boston 1200K on a Rambouillet with 26mm 
tires -- far too narrow for the roads. It was fine but I preferred the 
light and lively feel of the 
Bleriot.

Ed Felker
Washington, DC


On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:46:50 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Another vote for the Rambouillet here.
>
> Grant described the intent of the Rambouillet to me as a French 
> audax-inspired bike when I spoke to him about a bike for a cross country 
> ride (and afterwards) that would be a light load, credit card trip versus 
> self-supported full touring one. I was calling initially about the custom 
> queue and wait at the time and he said the production sibling of the 
> Atlantis was in a container, on the ocean now and sounded like it fit my 
> bill, so I got one and have loved it since then. 
>
> He described the under-square main triangle (TT lug, 2° upsloped TT as all aiding producing a higher, closer drop bar 
> position with a reasonably normal stem. There was a bit of conversation 
> about frame tubes I don't recall but all producing a fit and ride that 
> suited long days on the bike, similar to the non-competitive, limited time 
> riding events that began in Europe. Well suited for a saddlebag and my size 
> has three sets of bottle cage bosses, single eyelets (for fenders) on the 
> dropouts front and rear, room for 700 x 35~38 without fenders but optimized 
> for 32s with them and a pump peg on the back of the head tube. 
>
> The Rambouillet isn't terribly happy with a handlebar/rando bag due to the 
> trail/wheel flop numbers which can make it a handful when climbing in the 
> lowest gear. Even without a front load it can want to zig and zag rather 
> than staying on a straight line. You can ride with no hands very easily at 
> regular speeds. I rode mine almost fifty miles one handed after a shoulder 
> injury. 
>
> The 2023 P-B-P will start at the Chateau de Rambouillet supporting my 
> belief that the model namesake was just about the multi-useful sheep. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:55:10 PM UTC-4 Dick Combs wrote:
>
>> Looking for thoughts/opinions on best Riv model for randonneuring. Thanks
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv Rando Bike

2023-07-26 Thread ascpgh
Another vote for the Rambouillet here.

Grant described the intent of the Rambouillet to me as a French 
audax-inspired bike when I spoke to him about a bike for a cross country 
ride (and afterwards) that would be a light load, credit card trip versus 
self-supported full touring one. I was calling initially about the custom 
queue and wait at the time and he said the production sibling of the 
Atlantis was in a container, on the ocean now and sounded like it fit my 
bill, so I got one and have loved it since then. 

He described the under-square main triangle (TT Looking for thoughts/opinions on best Riv model for randonneuring. Thanks
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