Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
That's a great tip if you use grips Rene :) I personally don't use them ! I tape the bar with cork tape :) I use thumbshifters mounted in the inside top curve, and bar end brake levers, so I have about 12 inches of open bar to move around . It's Glorious Freedom !!! This to me expresses the full beauty of the Alba bars to allow All-that-open-bar-space to be used for the hands. Putting tiny(to me) grips on a huge bar like the Alba is like limiting yourself to two grip points on a steering wheel of a car. You've got the whole circle, but choose to only grip in two places. Kinda silly to me ! http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3321/3645057344_0eb8b27096_b.jpg On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:26:55 PM UTC-4, René wrote: One way to assess if you'd like a longer stem is to move your brake levers and grips (or remove the grips for a while) forward to pretend the bar is further away and see if you prefer that. If your grips are glued it might mean destroying them and then getting a new set once you've decided, which if you go for a longer stem you'll have to do anyway... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
That's how I also set up my Bosco bars. Reverse brake levers and tape. Smooth free and clean to put your hands anywhere! René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: That's a great tip if you use grips Rene :) I personally don't use them ! I tape the bar with cork tape :) I use thumbshifters mounted in the inside top curve, and bar end brake levers, so I have about 12 inches of open bar to move around . It's Glorious Freedom !!! This to me expresses the full beauty of the Alba bars to allow All-that-open-bar-space to be used for the hands. Putting tiny(to me) grips on a huge bar like the Alba is like limiting yourself to two grip points on a steering wheel of a car. You've got the whole circle, but choose to only grip in two places. Kinda silly to me ! http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3321/3645057344_0eb8b27096_b.jpg On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:26:55 PM UTC-4, René wrote: One way to assess if you'd like a longer stem is to move your brake levers and grips (or remove the grips for a while) forward to pretend the bar is further away and see if you prefer that. If your grips are glued it might mean destroying them and then getting a new set once you've decided, which if you go for a longer stem you'll have to do anyway... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
It's not either or. I put the levers in the conventional place (about a grip's worth from the bar end) but ride with my hands in many positions, (looped around levers, in front of levers, on the bends out front, etc). As with drop bars, I use the lever as part of the bar. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
I think you're right about an 11 or 12. In my opinion, any frame properly sized for you is going to require a long stem for bars with that much sweep-back. I'm a little guy, and even on an AHH which was a size too big for me, Albas with a 12 were *still* too close for me. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:28:24 PM UTC-7, KLA wrote: I am a female, 5'6, 84 PBH with an Yves, fist full of seat post showing, 9cm nitto technomic stem. The albatross bars feel a little too close - angled them down and lowered them, so the stem is level with the saddle, which helped. I thought a longer stem (11 or 12) would be better - but the LBS cautioned it would put more weight on my hands, and longer stems are usually for men, who often have shorter legs and longer torsos. I have long legs for my height, and possibly long arms for my height. Also, my neck gets tense, would a longer stem make that worse? Most of the internet chatter about stem length discuss drop bars, not a-bars. What stem length are other women on the Betty/Yves using - I prefer being somewhat leaned over, not too upright! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
On Monday, June 3, 2013 3:28:24 PM UTC-4, KLA wrote: Thanks for the responses! I may try a longer stem...I was also told a longer stem would make the bike feel more stable - although it feels fine in that respect now. I have very little bike 'knowledge' and and no mechanical skills - I can only get changes done at the bike shop. K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
My wife is 5'2 and runs a 52cm Yves with no seatpost showing. She runs an Albatross bar with a 12cm stem. On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:28:24 PM UTC-7, KLA wrote: I am a female, 5'6, 84 PBH with an Yves, fist full of seat post showing, 9cm nitto technomic stem. The albatross bars feel a little too close - angled them down and lowered them, so the stem is level with the saddle, which helped. I thought a longer stem (11 or 12) would be better - but the LBS cautioned it would put more weight on my hands, and longer stems are usually for men, who often have shorter legs and longer torsos. I have long legs for my height, and possibly long arms for my height. Also, my neck gets tense, would a longer stem make that worse? Most of the internet chatter about stem length discuss drop bars, not a-bars. What stem length are other women on the Betty/Yves using - I prefer being somewhat leaned over, not too upright! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
*Longer stems are usually for men*. Ahahahahaah !As if *that* has anything to do with your choice lol. I would try another shop, one that can let you borrow or try out some different length stems before buying them. Or like me , I bought an inexpensive VO threadless stem adapter , and some inexpensive threadless stems on ebay. I use them for fitting purposes, or in the case of one bike I ended up using the VO adapter as I found a great looking threadless stem :) The beauty of these are you can change any time. If you ever changed bars, change the threadless stem instead of the whole *unwrap the bars and find a new stem thing*. I would not cut the bars ! No way !!! Stems are much easier to change and why they exist in different sizes. Once you cut a bar ... there is no adding it back ! Trust yourself ... you know your body better than any bike shop as to what YOU want :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
I should have noted I use a 0 degree 13cm. stem on my 60cm Bombadil even with it's long-ish top tube. If the TT was more than a cm. shorter , I'd use a 14cm. My bars are a couple of inches above the middle of the saddle. But with the Albas I can literally ride with my elbows on top of the bars in hight winds, so having lower bars is not necessarily better . An Aerodynamic position is not all about bar height, because one with a flatish back and arms bent at a right angle is more aero than one with a flatish or rising back and arms pointed downward at an angle to lower bars. The arms are levers ... and are meant to bend !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy/Yves Gomez stem question
One way to assess if you'd like a longer stem is to move your brake levers and grips (or remove the grips for a while) forward to pretend the bar is further away and see if you prefer that. If your grips are glued it might mean destroying them and then getting a new set once you've decided, which if you go for a longer stem you'll have to do anyway... René On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I should have noted I use a 0 degree 13cm. stem on my 60cm Bombadil even with it's long-ish top tube. If the TT was more than a cm. shorter , I'd use a 14cm. My bars are a couple of inches above the middle of the saddle. But with the Albas I can literally ride with my elbows on top of the bars in hight winds, so having lower bars is not necessarily better . An Aerodynamic position is not all about bar height, because one with a flatish back and arms bent at a right angle is more aero than one with a flatish or rising back and arms pointed downward at an angle to lower bars. The arms are levers ... and are meant to bend !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
