[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[tc]

If considering any Jones bar (31.8 clamp dia), you may also consider the Nitto 
UI-12 quill stem on ebay 
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That bar (and the Billie, for that matter) allow for quite a bit of 
torque.  To counteract that torque, the Nitto UI-12 has a 4-bolt clamp.  
Nice looking, and I could've stood on the Jones bar I had on my Clem and 
not moved it.  Note it does not have the height of a Tallux nor Technomic.  
You can get the UI-12 on eBay in various stem reach lengths (currently 60 - 
120mm).

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[Ash]

This's a VERY helpful picture!

I was thinking of grabbing a Billie when someone posts one for sale here. 
 Now I may actually order one instead of waiting :)



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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[Jake P]

Super super helpful, Keith! Thanks a million!

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[Jake P]

I think the lack of a larger flair/it being a narrower bar is gunna be the 
deal breaker for me..  I love a 45' bend on a handlebar; it's my personal 
favorite hand position for 99% of riding.  My issue is that the jones is 
super stiff, and I love the feel of my boscos, so I was hoping the billie 
could get me a similar comfort/compliance but with a more familiar 
jones-style hand position/width.  Maybe the ever-elusive Waive bar will be 
the answer. We'll see...

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:49:19 AM UTC-5, Ryan M. wrote:
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> I stuck a Jones bar on my single speed mountain bike and totally love it. 
> The 45 degree bend is awesome and the bar gives quite a few different hand 
> positions. I really like the loop area for a small front bag too. The 710 
> version of the loop bar has a lot of real estate so you can ride normal 
> with your hands on top of the brake levers or scoot far back for a pretty 
> upright position. 
>
> Haven't tried the billie but it doesn't flair out as much as the Jones. On 
> a bike meant for off road riding, I would rather have the flair. My 
> Appaloosa has Chocos which basically come straight back. I like that for 
> greenway riding and more casual/touring stuff. 
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-5, Jake P wrote:
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>> In the most perfectly 'Grant' fashion, the dimension descriptions of the 
>> Billie are more about ~feel~ than anything else. Which I really appreciate, 
>> but I've never ridden an Alba so I don't have much of a starting point to 
>> base his descriptions on. 
>>
>> Can anybody who's ridden both a Jones Loop H-Bar and a Billie comment on 
>> the ride quality/ ~feel~ differences between the two? 
>>
>> If anybody has both bars and can photograph them on top of each other to 
>> show differences in the dimensions (grip area length, bar angle, width etc) 
>> I would be greatly appreciative as well!!! Thnx
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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

[Ryan M.]

I stuck a Jones bar on my single speed mountain bike and totally love it. 
The 45 degree bend is awesome and the bar gives quite a few different hand 
positions. I really like the loop area for a small front bag too. The 710 
version of the loop bar has a lot of real estate so you can ride normal 
with your hands on top of the brake levers or scoot far back for a pretty 
upright position. 

Haven't tried the billie but it doesn't flair out as much as the Jones. On 
a bike meant for off road riding, I would rather have the flair. My 
Appaloosa has Chocos which basically come straight back. I like that for 
greenway riding and more casual/touring stuff. 

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-5, Jake P wrote:

> In the most perfectly 'Grant' fashion, the dimension descriptions of the 
> Billie are more about ~feel~ than anything else. Which I really appreciate, 
> but I've never ridden an Alba so I don't have much of a starting point to 
> base his descriptions on. 
>
> Can anybody who's ridden both a Jones Loop H-Bar and a Billie comment on 
> the ride quality/ ~feel~ differences between the two? 
>
> If anybody has both bars and can photograph them on top of each other to 
> show differences in the dimensions (grip area length, bar angle, width etc) 
> I would be greatly appreciative as well!!! Thnx

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