[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-30 Thread reca...@gmail.com
I run this setup on my bikes and will work if your setup is as outlined by 
philipr. I use friction shiting also and it works fine with 11 speed. 

I run friction shifting out of mere convenience as it's plug and play and 
just easier to maintain, but it has definitely worked fine for me with an 
11-speed cassette. Even my old 7-speed era dura-ace friction shifters work 
really smoothly and nicely with my 11-speed. setups

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:29:44 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:

> I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
> Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
> I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
> have. 
>
> Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
> derailers. 
> Anyone have their preferences?
>  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?
>
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>

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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread Ray Varella
That’s a very useful article David. Thank you for sharing. 

Ray
On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 6:41:47 PM UTC-7 David Person wrote:

> I shared this article before in response to a similar question.  Hope it 
> is helpful.
>
>
> https://www.lightbicycle.com/newsletter/Bike-Freehub-Cassette-Compatibility-Manual.html
>
> The chart at the bottom of the article is most helpful.  
>
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm with you on that - made some big deals at a bike swap meet just 
>> yesterday!
>>
>> But that being said, there's a value to be placed on your time, stress 
>> level & riding-zen. To my mind, if you can build up a reliable, smoothly 
>> shifting system with the minimum of fuss for well under $200 new it's 
>> probably money well spent.
>>
>> I'm doing a 1x9 on my Platypus with existing parts from a Clem build, 
>> however I have in the back of my mind that it may end up being a 1x11 
>> exactly as we're discussing.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:51:33 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Philip
>>>
>>> I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs 
>>> buying new is always a consideration. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:08:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
 dished to fit the wheel.

 The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM 
 Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & 
 matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very 
 reasonable.

 I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
 revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
 ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
> Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
> I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I 
> already have. 
>
> Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
> derailers. 
> Anyone have their preferences?
>  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?
>
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>


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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread David Person
I shared this article before in response to a similar question.  Hope it is 
helpful.

https://www.lightbicycle.com/newsletter/Bike-Freehub-Cassette-Compatibility-Manual.html

The chart at the bottom of the article is most helpful.  

On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm with you on that - made some big deals at a bike swap meet just 
> yesterday!
>
> But that being said, there's a value to be placed on your time, stress 
> level & riding-zen. To my mind, if you can build up a reliable, smoothly 
> shifting system with the minimum of fuss for well under $200 new it's 
> probably money well spent.
>
> I'm doing a 1x9 on my Platypus with existing parts from a Clem build, 
> however I have in the back of my mind that it may end up being a 1x11 
> exactly as we're discussing.
>
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:51:33 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Thank you Philip
>>
>> I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs 
>> buying new is always a consideration. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ray
>>
>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:08:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
>>> dished to fit the wheel.
>>>
>>> The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM 
>>> Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & 
>>> matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very 
>>> reasonable.
>>>
>>> I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
>>> revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
>>> ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
 Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
 I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
 have. 

 Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
 derailers. 
 Anyone have their preferences?
  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?


 Thank you 
 Ray

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread David Person
I shared this article before in response to a similar question.  Hope it is 
helpful.

https://www.slowtwitch.com/Tech/Cassette_How-To_-_Part_2_3257.html#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20if%20you,take%20up%20the%20extra%20slack.


On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm with you on that - made some big deals at a bike swap meet just 
> yesterday!
>
> But that being said, there's a value to be placed on your time, stress 
> level & riding-zen. To my mind, if you can build up a reliable, smoothly 
> shifting system with the minimum of fuss for well under $200 new it's 
> probably money well spent.
>
> I'm doing a 1x9 on my Platypus with existing parts from a Clem build, 
> however I have in the back of my mind that it may end up being a 1x11 
> exactly as we're discussing.
>
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:51:33 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Thank you Philip
>>
>> I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs 
>> buying new is always a consideration. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ray
>>
>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:08:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
>>> dished to fit the wheel.
>>>
>>> The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM 
>>> Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & 
>>> matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very 
>>> reasonable.
>>>
>>> I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
>>> revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
>>> ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
 Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
 I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
 have. 

 Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
 derailers. 
 Anyone have their preferences?
  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?


 Thank you 
 Ray

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread Philip Barrett
I'm with you on that - made some big deals at a bike swap meet just 
yesterday!

But that being said, there's a value to be placed on your time, stress 
level & riding-zen. To my mind, if you can build up a reliable, smoothly 
shifting system with the minimum of fuss for well under $200 new it's 
probably money well spent.

I'm doing a 1x9 on my Platypus with existing parts from a Clem build, 
however I have in the back of my mind that it may end up being a 1x11 
exactly as we're discussing.

On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:51:33 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> Thank you Philip
>
> I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs 
> buying new is always a consideration. 
>
> Cheers,
> Ray
>
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:08:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
>> dished to fit the wheel.
>>
>> The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM 
>> Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & 
>> matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very 
>> reasonable.
>>
>> I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
>> revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
>> ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
>>> Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
>>> I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
>>> have. 
>>>
>>> Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
>>> derailers. 
>>> Anyone have their preferences?
>>>  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread Ray Varella
Thank you Philip

I’m not opposed to indexing at all, but being one to use what I have vs 
buying new is always a consideration. 

Cheers,
Ray

On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:08:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
> dished to fit the wheel.
>
> The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM 
> Apex and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & 
> matching, if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very 
> reasonable.
>
> I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
> revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
> ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
>> Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
>> I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
>> have. 
>>
>> Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
>> derailers. 
>> Anyone have their preferences?
>>  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?
>>
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Can an 11speed cassette fit on an 8-9-10 hub

2021-04-25 Thread Philip Barrett
Yes - provided it's a mountain cluster as the lowest cog (smallest) is 
dished to fit the wheel.

The Shimano M7000 series of components will work for you. As will SRAM Apex 
and MicroShift XCD. The Shimano is easiest as there's no mixing & matching, 
if it says "7000" it will work together plus the cost is very reasonable.

I predate indexing & remember well it's introduction (which was a 
revelation) and I think friction shifting when you don't have to is 
ludicrous all around. Heretic words here I know! 

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> I’m sure this has been covered before but I’ll ask anyway. 
> Using. 135mm mountain hub from Shimano, will an 11 speed cassette work?
> I’m considering a 1x drivetrain and would prefer to use a hub I already 
> have. 
>
> Secondly, it looks like SRAM and Shimano both make/made 11 speed rear 
> derailers. 
> Anyone have their preferences?
>  Does friction shifting become ludicrous at 11?
>
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>

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