[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[LF]

Chainsaw lube looks to me a lot like Phil's Tenacious. I like to mix 
chainsaw lube with a thinner, like coleman's camp stove fuel (white gas) 
... the theory being that it flows into the chain, where the pins are, the 
thinner evaporates, leaving the lube.  
Works for me.

Best,
Larry

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend 
> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon 
> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of 
> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
> to see how it works out over time.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Patrick Moore]

Running hard behind the pack: I finally got over to True Value the other
day and bought a quart of Master Mechanic (the only brand they had) Bar,
Chain and Sprocket oil for $5 and change.

I'd put in 4-5 miles on the '03 Riv on dusty dirt acequia roads (relatively
hard packed thanks to our rains) on shortcuts to pavement, and decided on
today for the bike's semi-yearly thorough cleaning.

(Put bike in stand near hose with bucket of warm water and a bit of dish
soap nearby, with soft brush. Hose down gently, brush, rinse, bounce, dry,
lube. Just like the pros. Since this is a fixed gear with a single brake,
the operations is relatively quick and painless.)

Decanted 2 oz into a little old fashion oil can, the kind with the flexible
bottom and narrow spout, and dropped a drop on each of the chain's links,
and wiped, and wiped again, and again, and again. Damn but that stuff is
wet! Black spots near bottom bracket from spray.

It's certainly more viscous than ProLink and even than the heavier patent
"Purple Extreme" that a shop rat persuaded me to pay $8 for 4 oz but no
more so than the ATF-3 that used to be in the oil can; in fact, it's
lighter than I had anticipated (thinking, I guess, of Phil's). It is also
very clingy.

The chain, at least immediately after the most egregious excess was wiped
off, was very quiet, in the stand.

But I see that this stuff can't be applied in the usual "wipe, dribble, and
wipe" fashion; I'll have to let it dry for 24 hours or at least overnight
and wipe again.

What with the time needed to apply it discretely -- in both senses -- and
the time required for drying and more wiping, I hope that it does last
longer than the other stuff I've been using -- ranging from wax with
various additives to ProLink to Purple Extreme.

I'll be interested to see how many miles go by before the drivetrain starts
sounding noisy.


On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 6:27 AM, 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> There is a big push in the wood industry to switch to bio-degradable bar
> oil.  Motion-lotion (link below) is the leader, but the link is to a large
> scale supply site, so I couldn't find anything smaller than a gallon.  (If
> you really like it, you can order a 55 gallon drum.)  For the petroleum
> based lube, Ace or any Stihl franchise will have it in quart containers.
>
> http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaws/Fuel-Lube-Mixes/Bar-Oil/Motion-Lotion-Biodegradable-Bar-Chain-Oil-1-Gallon-Bottle.axd
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>
>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend
>> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon
>> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of
>> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and
>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive
>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager
>> to see how it works out over time.
>>
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Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
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it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
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[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Charlie]

You Got it.
Castrol R = racing oil  was the very best oil for racing cars in the 1960's 
probably earlier.Think it came from England.
Charlie

On Saturday, June 14, 2014 3:19:59 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
> Canola oil sounds interesting :) 
> The heaviest veg oil I know of is Castor oil, man, that stuff is viscous 
> !  Isn't  that the origin of the name "Castrol" ?  :)  
>
> Can you just use the factory lube of a new chain and apply it over that 
> when necessary ? I don't prefer to clean chains at all any more, as I find 
> all the good degreasers are either diesel, kerosene or wd-40. Kinda yuk.   
> The Soy cleaner that Riv sold I found poor. I had tried some citrus 
> degreasers in the past and none of them worked either. I'd love to get off 
> the petro bandwagon altogether for chains and keeping them clean :) 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Deacon Patrick]

Considering the dinos are the source, yea, except perhaps for the cruelty 
free part. Tar pits look like a brutal way to go.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Peter Morgano]

But is it grass fed, organically raised, no cruelty, cage free oil?
On Jun 15, 2014 9:34 PM, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

> You can get bar oil anywhere that sells oil, pretty much.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I may try this if I can find something smaller than a gallon.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Zack B  wrote:
>>
>>> Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.
>>>
>>> n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
>>> Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
>>> but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams <
>>> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts
>>> more dirt?
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
>>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or
>>> so whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
>>> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
>>> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
>>> I've been intrigued at trying it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant
>>> inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet
>>> with oil will accomplish this.
>>> 
>>>  Jim D.  Massachusetts
>>> 
>>>  On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last
>>> weekend while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid
>>> teflon spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the
>>> gallon of Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a
>>> rag, and wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The
>>> drive train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm
>>> eager to see how it works out over time.
>>> >>>
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>>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
>>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.
>>> > "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
>>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
>>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
>>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
>>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
>>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
>>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
>>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
>>> in your time and your body can they be?
>>> >  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
>>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
>>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
>>> you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Jim Bronson]

You can get bar oil anywhere that sells oil, pretty much.


On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I may try this if I can find something smaller than a gallon.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Zack B  wrote:
>
>> Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.
>>
>> n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
>> Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
>> but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams <
>> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts
>> more dirt?
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or
>> so whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
>> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
>> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
>> I've been intrigued at trying it.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant
>> inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet
>> with oil will accomplish this.
>> 
>>  Jim D.  Massachusetts
>> 
>>  On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>> >
>> > I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last
>> weekend while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid
>> teflon spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the
>> gallon of Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a
>> rag, and wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The
>> drive train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm
>> eager to see how it works out over time.
>> >>>
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>> >
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>> >"Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to
>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.
>> > "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
>> in your time and your body can they be?
>> >  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
>> you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood
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[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

['doc' via RBW Owners Bunch]

There is a big push in the wood industry to switch to bio-degradable bar 
oil.  Motion-lotion (link below) is the leader, but the link is to a large 
scale supply site, so I couldn't find anything smaller than a gallon.  (If 
you really like it, you can order a 55 gallon drum.)  For the petroleum 
based lube, Ace or any Stihl franchise will have it in quart containers.
http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaws/Fuel-Lube-Mixes/Bar-Oil/Motion-Lotion-Biodegradable-Bar-Chain-Oil-1-Gallon-Bottle.axd


On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend 
> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon 
> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of 
> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
> to see how it works out over time.
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Garth]

Canola oil sounds interesting :) 
The heaviest veg oil I know of is Castor oil, man, that stuff is viscous !  
Isn't  that the origin of the name "Castrol" ?  :)  

Can you just use the factory lube of a new chain and apply it over that 
when necessary ? I don't prefer to clean chains at all any more, as I find 
all the good degreasers are either diesel, kerosene or wd-40. Kinda yuk.   
The Soy cleaner that Riv sold I found poor. I had tried some citrus 
degreasers in the past and none of them worked either. I'd love to get off 
the petro bandwagon altogether for chains and keeping them clean :) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Patrick Moore]

Joe -- thanks for this. I wonder if my nearby True Value has anything like
this. I suppose that the canola/rapeseed oil in question has been treated
with additives, but I like what the article says about the lubricity* and
shear stability of such oils.

* As opposed to "lubricious, 'wanton'* ".

*As opposed to "won ton".

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Hogg  wrote:

>  Hi Patrick,
>
> Instead of petroleum-based oils, here's a link about using canola oil on
> chain saws. I'll bet it would work for bike chains too.
>
> http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/html/98511316/98511316.html
>
> Joe Hogg
> LA, CA
>
>

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  * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
*  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
"Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood  *

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Joe Hogg]

On 06/14/2014 09:42 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I may try this if I can find something smaller than a gallon. 
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Zack B  > wrote:
>
> Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.
>
> n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  > wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty
> area. Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine,
> ex-river-silt sand, but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams
> mailto:mkernanwilli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain
> attracts more dirt?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch"
>  > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other
> year or so whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go
> with the budget brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my
> list, although since the whole chain saw oil thread caused two of
> my life activities to overlap, I've been intrigued at trying it.
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D
> Massachusetts wrote:
> 
>  I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get
> lubricant inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not
> sure that a rag, wet with oil will accomplish this.
> 
>  Jim D.  Massachusetts
> 
>  On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
> >
> > I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this
> last weekend while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather
> pricey liquid teflon spray I've been using the last 7 years. 
> Instead, I grabbed the gallon of Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next
> shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and wiping down the chain to
> leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive train is definitely
> quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager to see how
> it works out over time.
> >>>
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> cried. "Show me where because I don't see th

Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Patrick Moore]

I may try this if I can find something smaller than a gallon.


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Zack B  wrote:

> Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.
>
> n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
> Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
> but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams <
> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts
> more dirt?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
> I've been intrigued at trying it.
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
> 
>  I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant
> inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet
> with oil will accomplish this.
> 
>  Jim D.  Massachusetts
> 
>  On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
> >
> > I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last
> weekend while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid
> teflon spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the
> gallon of Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a
> rag, and wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The
> drive train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm
> eager to see how it works out over time.
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> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
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> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Zack B]

Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.

n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>
> I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams 
wrote:
>>
>> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts
more dirt?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so
whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
I've been intrigued at trying it.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:

 I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant
inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet
with oil will accomplish this.

 Jim D.  Massachusetts

 On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend
while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon
spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of
Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and
wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive
train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager
to see how it works out over time.
>>>
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look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?
>  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Zack B]

The best way I have found to deliver a heavy oil is thus:

Clean the chain off with 99% rubbing alcohol.

Saturate the chain with WD-40 and wipe it off. Re-apply until the WD-40
coming off is completely clean.

Spray the chain again with WD-40 and then drip a single drop of the heavy
oil into each pivot. The WD-40 provides a film that allows the heavy oil to
slip right in.

Now wipe the chain off until the outside is completely dry.

You now have all the oil where it is needed, and none where it will attract
dirt.


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Zack B  wrote:

> Wipe the outside of the chain off completely or it will pick up crap.
>
> n Jun 12, 2014 2:41 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
> Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
> but I do like the presumed cheap cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams <
> mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts
> more dirt?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
> I've been intrigued at trying it.
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
> 
>  I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant
> inside the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet
> with oil will accomplish this.
> 
>  Jim D.  Massachusetts
> 
>  On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
> >
> > I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last
> weekend while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid
> teflon spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the
> gallon of Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a
> rag, and wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The
> drive train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm
> eager to see how it works out over time.
> >>>
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> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.
> > "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Patrick Moore]

I'd like to hear about this, too, because I live in a very dusty area.
Perhaps this lube is not the best for our very fine, ex-river-silt sand,
but I do like the presumed cheap cost.



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Williams 
wrote:

> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts more
> dirt?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
> I've been intrigued at trying it.
>
> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
>
>> I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside
>> the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with
>> oil will accomplish this.
>>
>> Jim D.  Massachusetts
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend
>>> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon
>>> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of
>>> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and
>>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive
>>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager
>>> to see how it works out over time.
>>>
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was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
*  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
"Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood  *

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

['doc' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jim, We heat primarily with wood and I have three saws: little, big, and 
just right; so yes, I buy bar oil by the gallon!
 
Michael, That is my main concern, especially given that bar oil is 
formulated to be "tacky," so I'll be monitoring that closely.  But as 
stated, my initial impressions are that it certainly results in a quieter 
drivetrain.
 

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:48:20 PM UTC-4, Michael Williams wrote:

> Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts more 
> dirt?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so 
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget 
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the 
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap, 
> I've been intrigued at trying it.
>
> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
>
>> I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside 
>> the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with 
>> oil will accomplish this.
>>
>> Jim D.  Massachusetts
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend 
>>> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon 
>>> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of 
>>> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
>>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
>>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
>>> to see how it works out over time.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Mike Williams]

Hey Doc,   Upon early application are you finding the chain attracts more dirt?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so 
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget 
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the 
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap, I've 
> been intrigued at trying it.
> 
>> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
>> I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside the 
>> ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with oil 
>> will accomplish this.
>> 
>> Jim D.  Massachusetts
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend while 
>>> cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon spray 
>>> I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of Ace 
>>> chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
>>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
>>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
>>> to see how it works out over time.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Tim Gavin]

I use an old style oil can (think the Tin Man) to place a small drip on
each roller of the chain.  Then I turn the chain slowly to flex it and work
the lube inside.  Then I wipe the excess off, repeatedly, until the rag
comes back relatively clean and dry.


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rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so
> whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget
> brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the
> whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap,
> I've been intrigued at trying it.
>
> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
>
>> I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside
>> the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with
>> oil will accomplish this.
>>
>> Jim D.  Massachusetts
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend
>>> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon
>>> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of
>>> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and
>>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive
>>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager
>>> to see how it works out over time.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

['doc' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Guilty as charged.  I tend to replace my chains every other year or so 
whether they need it or not, and I've been known to go with the budget 
brands.  Proper chain etiquette is not high on my list, although since the 
whole chain saw oil thread caused two of my life activities to overlap, 
I've been intrigued at trying it.

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:07:58 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:

> I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside 
> the ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with 
> oil will accomplish this.
>
> Jim D.  Massachusetts
>
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>>
>> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend 
>> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon 
>> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of 
>> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
>> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
>> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
>> to see how it works out over time.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Saw Bar Oil

[Jim D Massachusetts]

I thought that one aim of chain lubrication was to get lubricant inside the 
ends of the chain where it pivots. I am not sure that a rag, wet with oil 
will accomplish this.

Jim D.  Massachusetts

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 6:44:07 PM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> I know this was mentioned in a previous thread, but this last weekend 
> while cleaning the bike I opted to skip the rather pricey liquid teflon 
> spray I've been using the last 7 years.  Instead, I grabbed the gallon of 
> Ace chainsaw bar oil off the next shelf, putting a large dab on a rag, and 
> wiping down the chain to leave just a sheen.  I'm impressed.  The drive 
> train is definitely quieter and I sense the shifts are smoother.  I'm eager 
> to see how it works out over time.
>

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