[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-10-02 Thread Jayachandra Kura
I have a pair of MKS Bear Trap Pedals - they're the best! I've run into the 
same issue before and it was just caused by the right pedal developing some 
play.

Its just a cup and cone style hub, so it should be fairly straightforward 
to remove the play/click as long as you have allen keys/metric socket 
wrenches. It'd probably be good idea to repack both pedals with grease as 
mine (and others) have come pretty meagerly greased straight from the 
factory. I would advise against dripping tri-flo into the cup and 
cone/spindle area as that would thin any existing grease and might 
aggravate the clicking sound.

If that doesn't resolve the issue, then I wouldn't invest in the Park Tool 
CWO-1, I've heard its what the professionals use to open their can-o-worms.

Hope that helps
Jay
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 10:44:10 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
> Preferably made in USA? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>
>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>> currently, and check again. 
>>
>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>
>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>
>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>
>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>
>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>
>> And just so it's said
>>
>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>
>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>> can be experienced running it down.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>>
>>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-10-01 Thread Eric Marth
Tightened the cranks, click
Swapped the pedals, click
Tightened the chainring bolts, click
Tightened the stem wedge bolt and clamp, click
Went to bed thinking of other things, click

Before lunch I rode on down to the local bicycle wisdom dispensary to 
purchase a tool and my favorite mechanic on this here planet, Andre, gave 
the crank a tug and declared "Your bottom bracket is loose!" 

Went home, pulled the cranks, completely removed and reinstalled, regreased 
the bb and shell and spindles. No more click. For now. 

Thanks to everyone for joining me on this journey. 
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 9:37:33 PM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> ...could also be the crank, and/or crank/bb interface.
>
> Told ya it could be spooky/fun!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 7:11 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings 
>> and I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More 
>> noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>
>>> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
>>> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
>>> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
>>> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
>>> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals 
>>> just from riding. 
>>>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
 with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
 balls.


 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
> Preferably made in USA? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If 
>> the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a 
>> deep dive into other possibilities. 
>>
>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>> currently, and check again. 
>>
>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's 
>> play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that 
>> count.
>>
>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
>> head 
>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>
>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the 
>> space between cages and pedal body. 
>>
>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body 
>> interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not 
>> sure 
>> if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>
>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>
>> And just so it's said
>>
>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>
>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
>> here 
>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the 
>> pedals, 
>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and 
>> agony 
>> can be experienced running it down.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 
>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 
>>> 150 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a 
>>> dull 
>>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>>
>>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread Paul Brodek
...could also be the crank, and/or crank/bb interface.

Told ya it could be spooky/fun!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 7:11 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings
> and I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More
> noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard.
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking
>> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam
>> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually
>> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding.
>> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just
>> from riding.
>>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone
>>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32"
>>> balls.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener?
 Preferably made in USA?

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If
> the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a
> deep dive into other possibilities.
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed
> currently, and check again.
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's
> play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that
> count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
> head
> is probably small and shallow.
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the
> space between cages and pedal body.
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body
> interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure
> if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness.
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
> here
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts,
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals,
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about
>> 150 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a 
>> dull
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position.
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Put a tug on the crank and chainring bolts. 



On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 4:11:37 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings 
> and I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More 
> noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
>> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
>> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
>> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
>> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
>> from riding. 
>>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
>>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
>>> balls.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
 Preferably made in USA? 

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If 
> the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a 
> deep dive into other possibilities. 
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
> currently, and check again. 
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's 
> play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that 
> count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
> head 
> is probably small and shallow. 
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the 
> space between cages and pedal body. 
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body 
> interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure 
> if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
> here 
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the 
> pedals, 
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and 
> agony 
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 
>> 150 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a 
>> dull 
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread Eric Marth
Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings and 
I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More 
noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard. 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
> from riding. 
>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
>> balls.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
>>> Preferably made in USA? 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>
 TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If 
 the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a 
 deep dive into other possibilities. 

 If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
 anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
 currently, and check again. 

 Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's 
 play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that 
 count.

 If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
 bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
 bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
 head 
 is probably small and shallow. 

 If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the 
 space between cages and pedal body. 

 I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body 
 interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure 
 if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 

 That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.

 And just so it's said

 Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.

 Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
 places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
 hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
 here 
 if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
 saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
 but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
 can be experienced running it down.

 Good luck!

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>
> Any ideas for remedies? 
>
> Thanks! 
>


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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread E. Ricky Creek
This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
(these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
from riding. 
  Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 

 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
> balls.
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
>> Preferably made in USA? 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>>
>>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>>> currently, and check again. 
>>>
>>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>>
>>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>>
>>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>>
>>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>>
>>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>>
>>> And just so it's said
>>>
>>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>>
>>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>>> can be experienced running it down.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
 click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 

 Any ideas for remedies? 

 Thanks! 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread David Person
I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone with 
loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" balls.


On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
> Preferably made in USA? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>
>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>> currently, and check again. 
>>
>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>
>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>
>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>
>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>
>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>
>> And just so it's said
>>
>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>
>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>> can be experienced running it down.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>>
>>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread Eric Marth
Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
Preferably made in USA? 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
> dive into other possibilities. 
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
> currently, and check again. 
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
> is probably small and shallow. 
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
> between cages and pedal body. 
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

2021-09-29 Thread Paul Brodek
TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
dive into other possibilities. 

If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
currently, and check again. 

Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.

If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
is probably small and shallow. 

If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
between cages and pedal body. 

I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 

That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.

And just so it's said

Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.

Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other places 
on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're hearing/feeling from 
your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here if you do a search. 
Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, saddles, stems and/or 
handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, but the offending tick 
is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony can be experienced 
running it down.

Good luck!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>
> Any ideas for remedies? 
>
> Thanks! 
>

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