Well thank goodness for tailors and good ol' clothing designs that actually 
ave both style and function.  I still have some elastic waist and ankles 
cotton "beach" pants I bought from the Big and Tall store years ago. 
They're no good for riding but grand for anything else. There used to be 
some suitable high rise loose fitting in the hip pants from outdoor brands 
like Outdoor Research but they too fell victim to the microbutt trend. It's 
like a virus !  Ahahahahaahaha !!!  



On Friday, November 22, 2019 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Ever since I saw a drawing of a very elegant pair of full-length wool 
> cycling trousers in an old (~1971) cycling book, I've wanted a similar 
> pair. Today I just picked up my own pair from the tailor, who took a very 
> nice and comfortable pair of mid-weight, charcoal grey Brooks Brothers 
> pants that I've owned for years but rarely worn and added lightweight, 
> interior, wind-blocking linings in the legs, a heavier, outside 
> saddle-protecting lining in the seat, and pegged the legs with zippers. 
> *Very* nice looking and, more to the point, *very* comfortable, since the 
> dress pant cut (these pants pre-date the hipster cut but post-date 1980s 
> baggies; trim but no binding) is just right for cycling, roomy but no 
> flapping, and *cut high enough in the waist!* -- my personal bete noir.
>
> $99 including tax; he said he'd charge about $175 for making a pair from 
> scratch, + material.
>
> I've not yet ridden in them, but since I've ridden in dress pants knickers 
> for years, I know they'll be comfortable, and the saddle reinforcement will 
> solve the wear problem -- not that it's a huge problem, IME. 
>
> I've left a mid-weight pair of dress flannels, already cut to +6 or so 
> knicker length, for similar treatment.
>
> In contrast, the Endura riding pants I bought a few years ago, as a design 
> for cycling that had street pants construction with zip fly, side and rear 
> pockets, belt loops -- required $100 worth of alteration each to be even 
> moderately comfortable, and they're still too low in the waist. They may go 
> on sale shortly.
>
> -- 
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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