Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Oh, and the Bagman and such things are too light to support the sort of loads I mean to carry: 30+ lb; though for short distances. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What about one of those seat post mounted racks- the ones that clamp to > the post only. That should interfere with the fold, would support the bag, > and is cheap. Something like this: > > > http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Titan/Titan-Rear-Bicycle-Rack.axd?gclid=CIHvko_HysgCFYgTHwodH54HKA > > I have also had a bagman in the past and was pleased with it. Doesn't > Nitto make a seat post mounted support as well? > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Thanks. In fact, I have one of those, but the problem with it is that it doesn't work well with panniers; and if I install a rack on the Dahon, it will be for the purpose of using my Ortliebs. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > What about one of those seat post mounted racks- the ones that clamp to > the post only. That should interfere with the fold, would support the bag, > and is cheap. Something like this: > > > http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Titan/Titan-Rear-Bicycle-Rack.axd?gclid=CIHvko_HysgCFYgTHwodH54HKA > > I have also had a bagman in the past and was pleased with it. Doesn't > Nitto make a seat post mounted support as well? > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Hello, What about one of those seat post mounted racks- the ones that clamp to the post only. That should interfere with the fold, would support the bag, and is cheap. Something like this: http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Titan/Titan-Rear-Bicycle-Rack.axd?gclid=CIHvko_HysgCFYgTHwodH54HKA I have also had a bagman in the past and was pleased with it. Doesn't Nitto make a seat post mounted support as well? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Thanks, Joe, that's very helpful. The brake hoods (I'd use road levers placed on the forward curve) should give me 2 or 3 more inches, so just right. I shouldn't need that extension. We'll see. I've been spending hand over foot or head over heels or ass over teakettle this month, and I need to stop for a while. Perhaps next month (when the dissatisfaction-fretting-purchase cycle starts again.) On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I placed a mustache bar (old design) over the stem clamp on my Dahon Curve > D3 and got 24" from the tip of a shoved back B17 to the outer edge of the > bar curve. I would recommend trying it, m-bars often require a shorter > reach than expected. If that doesn't work I can sell you the extended > thingy I showed you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
I placed a mustache bar (old design) over the stem clamp on my Dahon Curve D3 and got 24" from the tip of a shoved back B17 to the outer edge of the bar curve. I would recommend trying it, m-bars often require a shorter reach than expected. If that doesn't work I can sell you the extended thingy I showed you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
It seems to me I've see racks of various types for such bikes. Yes. Just checked Bike Friday's site, and there's this: https://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/new_world_tourist. Perhaps it's comparable or there is a similar solution that is? If you're carrying that much weight/volume, I'd go with a rack. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 5:33:24 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I will be using my new Dahon "Hon Solo" as my default shopper, and rather > than install racks that will complicate folding, I'd prefer to use a large > saddlebag hung from a Nitto Grip, quick removal. > > I don't want to use a support like the Bagman or the VO because I want to > be able to shove the seatpost down to achieve minimum size. > > Of course, I have about 3 feet of room over the rear fender, so no > saddlebag is too big. Thus, I could, conceivably, use a Large Saddlesack on > the bike. > > But will the weight that a Large can undoubtedly carry bust the bottom if > it is not supported by a rack? > > I've carried heavy loads (~ 30 lb max) in a Medium on another bike with no > problems and no intimation of problems, but the Large must accept 40 lb if > the M can accept 30. > > I suppose one could replace the corrugated plastic base with plywood? > > At any rate, I've seen one or two very good buys on used Saddlesacks, and > I'd like to grab if the L can be used solo (or "Solo"). > > The only changes on the bike since this early photo are (1) MKS 324s > instead of Urbans; and Nelson Longflap on Grip instead of Banzer Bag. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Thanks, Patrick and Nick. I've used the Medium as well as a Hoss and a Camper Longflap with no support, but I daresay that there is a weight at which those straps start to get strained. Perhaps best would be a Camper in back and the current Nelson LF on the bar. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I will be using my new Dahon "Hon Solo" as my default shopper, and rather > than install racks that will complicate folding, I'd prefer to use a large > saddlebag hung from a Nitto Grip, quick removal. > > I don't want to use a support like the Bagman or the VO because I want to > be able to shove the seatpost down to achieve minimum size. > > Of course, I have about 3 feet of room over the rear fender, so no > saddlebag is too big. Thus, I could, conceivably, use a Large Saddlesack on > the bike. > > But will the weight that a Large can undoubtedly carry bust the bottom if > it is not supported by a rack? > > I've carried heavy loads (~ 30 lb max) in a Medium on another bike with no > problems and no intimation of problems, but the Large must accept 40 lb if > the M can accept 30. > > I suppose one could replace the corrugated plastic base with plywood? > > At any rate, I've seen one or two very good buys on used Saddlesacks, and > I'd like to grab if the L can be used solo (or "Solo"). > > The only changes on the bike since this early photo are (1) MKS 324s > instead of Urbans; and Nelson Longflap on Grip instead of Banzer Bag. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
My wife and I went touring in Europe with a pair of Carradice Camper Longflap saddlebags (hers was a lowsaddle longflap) each with no support underneath. I cut plastic stiffeners to fit the inside of the bags to prevent them sagging overmuch, and that worked without any problems. We were using Carradice SQR mounts. Picture of the bikes here: http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/bikestuff/Switzerland/altdorf.jpg Nick On Saturday, 17 October 2015 10:33:24 UTC+11, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I will be using my new Dahon "Hon Solo" as my default shopper, and rather > than install racks that will complicate folding, I'd prefer to use a large > saddlebag hung from a Nitto Grip, quick removal. > > I don't want to use a support like the Bagman or the VO because I want to > be able to shove the seatpost down to achieve minimum size. > > Of course, I have about 3 feet of room over the rear fender, so no > saddlebag is too big. Thus, I could, conceivably, use a Large Saddlesack on > the bike. > > But will the weight that a Large can undoubtedly carry bust the bottom if > it is not supported by a rack? > > I've carried heavy loads (~ 30 lb max) in a Medium on another bike with no > problems and no intimation of problems, but the Large must accept 40 lb if > the M can accept 30. > > I suppose one could replace the corrugated plastic base with plywood? > > At any rate, I've seen one or two very good buys on used Saddlesacks, and > I'd like to grab if the L can be used solo (or "Solo"). > > The only changes on the bike since this early photo are (1) MKS 324s > instead of Urbans; and Nelson Longflap on Grip instead of Banzer Bag. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
I got lost in the details of your question, but I think the sway alone would be problematic and the weight on the straps extensive. It is the one saddlebag Rivendell says a rack is required. I'd go with them on that. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 5:33:24 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I will be using my new Dahon "Hon Solo" as my default shopper, and rather > than install racks that will complicate folding, I'd prefer to use a large > saddlebag hung from a Nitto Grip, quick removal. > > I don't want to use a support like the Bagman or the VO because I want to > be able to shove the seatpost down to achieve minimum size. > > Of course, I have about 3 feet of room over the rear fender, so no > saddlebag is too big. Thus, I could, conceivably, use a Large Saddlesack on > the bike. > > But will the weight that a Large can undoubtedly carry bust the bottom if > it is not supported by a rack? > > I've carried heavy loads (~ 30 lb max) in a Medium on another bike with no > problems and no intimation of problems, but the Large must accept 40 lb if > the M can accept 30. > > I suppose one could replace the corrugated plastic base with plywood? > > At any rate, I've seen one or two very good buys on used Saddlesacks, and > I'd like to grab if the L can be used solo (or "Solo"). > > The only changes on the bike since this early photo are (1) MKS 324s > instead of Urbans; and Nelson Longflap on Grip instead of Banzer Bag. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Does a large Saddlesack absolutely need support?
Segway (tm): can any of youse Dahon users who use Moustache bars tell me the measurement from the center of the stem clamp to the tip of the uttermost point on the bar's curve? The Ritchey bullhorns work OK, but if I could get sufficient reach with M-bars and road levers attached at the bar's apexes, I think I'd prefer M-bars. The golden number is ~27" from tip of Flite set ~3" behind bb center. The Ritchey's just about manage this. Joe? On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I will be using my new Dahon "Hon Solo" as my default shopper, and rather > than install racks that will complicate folding, I'd prefer to use a large > saddlebag hung from a Nitto Grip, quick removal. > > I don't want to use a support like the Bagman or the VO because I want to > be able to shove the seatpost down to achieve minimum size. > > Of course, I have about 3 feet of room over the rear fender, so no > saddlebag is too big. Thus, I could, conceivably, use a Large Saddlesack on > the bike. > > But will the weight that a Large can undoubtedly carry bust the bottom if > it is not supported by a rack? > > I've carried heavy loads (~ 30 lb max) in a Medium on another bike with no > problems and no intimation of problems, but the Large must accept 40 lb if > the M can accept 30. > > I suppose one could replace the corrugated plastic base with plywood? > > At any rate, I've seen one or two very good buys on used Saddlesacks, and > I'd like to grab if the L can be used solo (or "Solo"). > > The only changes on the bike since this early photo are (1) MKS 324s > instead of Urbans; and Nelson Longflap on Grip instead of Banzer Bag. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
