[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-21 Thread Angus
I believe the only Rivendell I have with lawyer lips is the
Quickbeam...somehow they seem to have worn off...so I touched up the
raw area with orange paint.  :-)

Angus

On Sep 20, 6:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Funny I JUST noticed that this evening... My (Waterford) Bombadil does
NOT have em... But I ain't worried... and frankly I like the look of
the fork dropout without them...

On Sep 20, 7:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
 example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
 this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
 bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
 avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
 From: Horace
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
 Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


 -Original Message-
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?
 
 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread doug peterson
My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them  it
was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked open and
closed.

dougP

On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
 example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
 this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
 bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
 avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
 From: Horace
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
 Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


 -Original Message-
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?
 
 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread JoelMatthews
I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?

On Sep 20, 7:45 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them  it
 was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
 around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
 plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
 tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
 situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked open and
 closed.

 dougP

 On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:



  So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has 
  another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was 
  sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant 
  talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some 
  reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the 
  bike.-Original Message-
  From: Horace
  Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
  The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did 
  not.On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James 
  Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
  For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
  about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
  I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not 
  had that feature.

  -Original Message-
  From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
  Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

  Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
  Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
  how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
  Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
  Do you care one way or the other?

  On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
  take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
  the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
  because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
  tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Bruce
No, when cold enough...





From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 8:09:48 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?


  

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Peter Pesce
I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
Taiwan Sam has them.
Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Beth H
LL, ca. 1999; A-R, circa 1999: Nope; and nope again.

I do seem to recall that, back in the day, Riv and company offered
something they called a Paralysis Prevention Device. You had to ask
for one with your frame if you wanted it, and it wasn't mentioned a
whole lot, presumably to avoid freaking people out.
Beth

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Jim M.
My Legolas has them. So does my QB but they have been mentioned. I
find them mildly annoying, but I would have assumed any insurance
company would be insisting on them at this point.



On Sep 20, 4:28 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.

 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
 Taiwan Sam has them.
 Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

 On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread William
My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.



On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!



 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
  I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
  Taiwan Sam has them.
  Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

  On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
  Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
  how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
  Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
  Do you care one way or the other?

  On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
  take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
  the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
  because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
  tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread cyclotourist
All this variation begs the question:  Why?  Are they truly the result of an
industry class action suit?  If so, why do some (Quickbeams) have them and
others (Sams) don't?

Curious brains want to know (no e's in that sentence).



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.



 On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
   Taiwan Sam has them.
   Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.
 
   On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
   Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
   Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
   how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
   Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
   Do you care one way or the other?
 
   On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
   take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
   the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
   because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
   tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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