Re: [RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-29 Thread Slin 
Nice, yeah I also like the idea of putting the bar end shifter cable 
housing under the ESI grips. I set up mine outside the grips and it was 
just annoying to feel there. It was so annoying that I didn't even think it 
would help if I used twine to tie it down.


On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:51:14 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Exactly!  And, beautiful 1st gen Clementine. 
>
> I’ll go ahead and have them order the grips for me. 
>
> Thanks, everyone. 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 28, 2023, at 9:34 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
> I just put the cable in place and sprayed the bar and ESI grip with 
> rubbing alcohol. Works great. Shifts great. No grip slip.  
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 5:30:53 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Thank you both. 
>>
>> The wire inside its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m 
>> leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube 
>> color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. 
>>
>> The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:21:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> You said " putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the 
>>> mechanic will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or 
>>> put the shifter wire between the bar and the grip???
>>>
>>> If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore 
>>> and aft in the silicone.
>>> If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore 
>>> and aft easily.
>>>
>>> On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the 
>>> shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the 
>>> tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to 
>>> move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on 
>>> the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in 
>>> diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and 
>>> grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft 
>>> freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm 
>>> long
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar 
 end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my 
 handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky 
 grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap 
 but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 

 The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
 the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*

 Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and 
 wrap the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 

 A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
 over the wire. 

 I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI 
 grips, or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting 
 wire through the grips?  

 Thanks,
 Roberta 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread REC 
Exactly!  And, beautiful 1st gen Clementine. I’ll go ahead and have them order the grips for me. Thanks, everyone. Sent from my iPadOn May 28, 2023, at 9:34 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I just put the cable in place and sprayed the bar and ESI grip with rubbing alcohol. Works great. Shifts great. No grip slip.  On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 5:30:53 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:Thank you both. The wire inside its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. Roberta On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:21:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:RobertaYou said "

putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the mechanic will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or put the shifter wire between the bar and the grip???If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore and aft in the silicone.    If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore and aft easily.On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm longJohn HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going over the wire. I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire through the grips?  Thanks,Roberta 



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[RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread J 
Hi Roberta,
I have used this method (housing between grip and bar) twice before and it 
worked just fine. I'm not sure I have photos though, I don't generally 
document that stuff. I've not experienced the trouble with ESI grips that 
folks talk about, plenty of rubbing alcohol is all you need for lubrication 
and the housing underneath the grip actually allows it to slide down the 
bar easier than 360 degrees of grip to bar contact, once you have the grip 
started and the housing in place. 


On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:30:53 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Thank you both. 
>
> The wire inside its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m 
> leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube 
> color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. 
>
> The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. 
>
> Roberta 
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:21:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
> wrote:
>
>> Roberta
>>
>> You said " putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the 
>> mechanic will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or 
>> put the shifter wire between the bar and the grip???
>>
>> If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore 
>> and aft in the silicone.
>> If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore and 
>> aft easily.
>>
>> On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the 
>> shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the 
>> tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to 
>> move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.
>>
>> It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on 
>> the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in 
>> diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and 
>> grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft 
>> freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm 
>> long
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar 
>>> end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my 
>>> handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky 
>>> grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap 
>>> but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 
>>>
>>> The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
>>> the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*
>>>
>>> Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap 
>>> the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 
>>>
>>> A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
>>> over the wire. 
>>>
>>> I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, 
>>> or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire 
>>> through the grips?  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roberta 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread Roberta 
Thank you both. 

The wire inside its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m 
leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube 
color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. 

The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. 

Roberta 

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:21:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
wrote:

> Roberta
>
> You said " putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the mechanic 
> will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or put the 
> shifter wire between the bar and the grip???
>
> If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore 
> and aft in the silicone.
> If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore and 
> aft easily.
>
> On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the 
> shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the 
> tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to 
> move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.
>
> It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on 
> the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in 
> diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and 
> grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft 
> freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm 
> long
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar 
>> end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my 
>> handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky 
>> grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap 
>> but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 
>>
>> The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
>> the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*
>>
>> Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap 
>> the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 
>>
>> A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
>> over the wire. 
>>
>> I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, 
>> or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire 
>> through the grips?  
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread REC 
Thank you both. The shifter with its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. Roberta Sent from my iPadOn May 28, 2023, at 8:21 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:RobertaYou said "

putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the mechanic will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or put the shifter wire between the bar and the grip???If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore and aft in the silicone.    If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore and aft easily.On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm longJohn HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going over the wire. I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire through the grips?  Thanks,Roberta 



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[RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch 
Roberta

You said " putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the mechanic 
will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or put the 
shifter wire between the bar and the grip???

If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore 
and aft in the silicone.
If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore and 
aft easily.

On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the 
shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the 
tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to 
move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.

It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on 
the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in 
diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and 
grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft 
freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm 
long

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ



On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar end 
> shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my handlebar 
> grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky grips 
> instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap but 
> wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 
>
> The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
> the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*
>
> Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap 
> the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 
>
> A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
> over the wire. 
>
> I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, 
> or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire 
> through the grips?  
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta 
>

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[RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread Johnny Alien 
I am a fan of grips like this now vs the hand made tape options. Now issues 
with putting the wiring underneath if they claim they can do it. If I was 
doing it myself (because those foam grips can be a pain to install) I would 
do it like you suggestedhave the wiring outside and then do a twine 
wrap on one end to hold it in place. But if someone else is doing it for me 
then I would get it routed under the grip.

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:16:52 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Here’s the link to the ESI GRIPS:  
> https://esigrips.com/products/chunky?variant=43580903162095
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar 
>> end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my 
>> handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky 
>> grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap 
>> but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 
>>
>> The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
>> the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*
>>
>> Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap 
>> the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 
>>
>> A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
>> over the wire. 
>>
>> I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, 
>> or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire 
>> through the grips?  
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

2023-05-28 Thread Roberta 
Here’s the link to the ESI GRIPS: 
 https://esigrips.com/products/chunky?variant=43580903162095

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar end 
> shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my handlebar 
> grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky grips 
> instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap but 
> wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 
>
> The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
> the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*
>
> Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and wrap 
> the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 
>
> A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
> over the wire. 
>
> I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI grips, 
> or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting wire 
> through the grips?  
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta 
>

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