Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
I have a Dingle fixed 17/21 with a Dura Ace 44/39 crank. I’ve done the double setup with several cranks on a couple bikes. Works fine without the dedicated White double cranks. The upside is cheap high quality forged cranks and a wide choice of rings. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Patrick, that sounds like the perfect use of the ENO eccentric hub and 2x2 set up. Brilliant! With abandon, Patrick, of the Highlands, not the Moor(e). Grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Dammit, I'm going to do this myself. Brother has a nice old Bianchi MTB for cheap; vertical drops. Will get ENO; have Dingle; scavenge crankset and buy appropriate rings. In fact, I might just try this with "magic combinations". This will be a very cheap, very occasional use snow bike, and I don't need to be particular about exact gi for Hi and Lo. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:10 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on > vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always > managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle > length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings > and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary. > > I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here? > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m wrote: > >> If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double >> chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think >> that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great >> photo of the set up >> >> [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG] >> >> Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog >> is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the >> same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are >> talking about work as best it can. >> >> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a >>> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle >>> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White >>> Industries. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: >>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No chain slop and very easy to use. I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >>> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >>> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >>> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >>> --- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >>> Other professional writing services >>> Expensive! But good. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secre
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary. I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here? On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m wrote: > If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double > chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think > that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great > photo of the set up > > [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG] > > Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog > is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the > same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are > talking about work as best it can. > > On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a >> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle >> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White >> Industries. >> >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: >> >>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take >>> up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just >>> happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your >>> chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears >>> that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No >>> chain slop and very easy to use. >>> >>> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear >>> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >> --- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >> Other professional writing services >> Expensive! But good. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Ian, I’ve ridden the Dos ENO free wheel and now the Surly Dingle Cog with Sugino double. Both work fine. Chainline is a greater issue on paper and in the mind than on the bike. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
That's the point! ENO, Dingle in rear, XD2 NN/NN-2 in front! On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:22 PM Eric Daume wrote: > Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical > dropouts. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > >> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a >> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle >> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White >> Industries. >> >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: >> >>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take >>> up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just >>> happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your >>> chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears >>> that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No >>> chain slop and very easy to use. >>> >>> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear >>> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >> --- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >> Other professional writing services >> Expensive! But good. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great photo of the set up [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG] Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are talking about work as best it can. On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a > Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle > back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White > Industries. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m > > wrote: > >> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up >> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens >> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain >> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that >> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No >> chain slop and very easy to use. >> >> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear >> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical dropouts. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a > Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle > back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White > Industries. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: > >> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up >> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens >> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain >> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that >> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No >> chain slop and very easy to use. >> >> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear >> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Or a chain tensioner. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:42 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > No need as far as I can see for a White Industries. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: > >> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up >> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens >> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain >> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that >> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No >> chain slop and very easy to use. >> >> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear >> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White Industries. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: > Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up > slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens > to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain > length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that > are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No > chain slop and very easy to use. > > I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear hub > on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No chain slop and very easy to use. I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
But you could do the same with a Sugino crank and the right rings, correct? The OP said that this arrangement would work well, and simply that it didn't require a WI chainring. I'm tempted to do this myself (oh Gawd no, not another project ...) I need (*need, it tell you!*) a winter snow bike because we only get ridable snow about 1X a year. And someone has a disposable old mountain bike to sell cheap ... (Still, this would be cheaper than a second wheelset for the Matthews ... On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 10:05 AM ian m wrote: > I think I misread the original intent. You want to ride fixed on a > vertical dropout utilizing a dingle cog. I stand by what I originally said, > using the White Ind dingle chainring would make the most elegant and easy > to use setup in conjunction with the Eccentric hub to accommodate for the > vertical dropout. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work and again > the only downside would be the choice of gearing as White only makes the > chainrings in 38/35 or 34/31 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
I think I misread the original intent. You want to ride fixed on a vertical dropout utilizing a dingle cog. I stand by what I originally said, using the White Ind dingle chainring would make the most elegant and easy to use setup in conjunction with the Eccentric hub to accommodate for the vertical dropout. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work and again the only downside would be the choice of gearing as White only makes the chainrings in 38/35 or 34/31 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Brian is correct. Surly stopped making the dinglecog. I ride a 1x2 on my Quickbeam, and on my Hunqabeam a 2x2 (via fix/fix flip flop), yielding a high, med, low. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
Surly makes the Dingle cog... I have a 17/19 dingle paired with a white ind dos eno 17/19 on a flip/flop hub. Surly may have since discontinued the dingle fixed cogs but they went up to 17/21 I think. You also don’t necessarily need the WI crank... any double crank could achieve the same thing with properly chosen rings... you just need to also find the right chain line and bottom bracket spindle width. Never used an ENO hub but had previously considered it before I picked up a proper single speed frame with track ends. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking
I highly recommend using the ENO in dinglespeed form, if possible. Does a fixed dingle cog exist?. I had this set up on a bike some years ago, 16/18 freewheel in back and 38/35 double chainring. You need White Ind cranks too, but those are definitely worth it. This system was super easy to change out on a ride, I would use the larger gear for around town riding and then switch to the lower to tackle hills. No rear wheel removal necessary. You are forced into specific gearing, which may be a potential down side if you like to customize ratios. Of course, with horizontal dropouts you don't need the eccentric hub, and as long as there isn't more than a one or two tooth difference in gearing your brakes won't be an issue. On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Backstory: Before I swapped the dropouts on my Hunqapillar to horizontal > I, and Grant, talked with White Ind. about using their eccentric hub for > fixed gear bikepacking. We were both told absolutely not, it will fail. > > Update: Grant recently followed up with them and asked specifically what > would fail. Nothing in the hub, it turns out, they were concerned about > aluminum dropouts, despite knowing this is on a Rivendell, thus has to be > steel. Sigh. > > The horizontal dropout on Boots ain’t happening, so I have questions about > the ENO hub for those who have experience with one (speculation doesn’t > help here, actual experience only please): > > - What is the process for tightening the chain? > - What would that process look like with a dingle cog 2x2 set-up? I > presume I’d have to drop the rear wheel out, shift the chain, put the wheel > back, then tighten the chain. Keep in mind the bike is 85 lbs total and I > likely need to lay it down to change gears. > > Anything else I should think about? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.CatholicHalos.org > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
