[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Update: I've decided to keep the frame. Yet another failed attempt at being rational. This frame clearly means too much to me. Thanks for the interest! Bones On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:42:47 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote: > Ben, > > That's an interesting question: To "With my butt on the saddle I can get > my tippy toes of one foot to touch the ground." You replied: "Shouldn't > this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?" > > Imagine a very steep seat tube angle - saddle almost directly above the > pedals vs a very slack seat tube angle- the saddle quite behind the bottom > bracket. Even if you kept the bottom bracket height the same (there is some > variablity between "low" road bikes and "high" cross bikes) you could > imagine the difference. Even with 75 and 71 degree seat angle the > difference can be noticeable - close to an inch. > > Does that make sense? > > Edwin > > On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 11:37:15 PM UTC-6 Ben Miller wrote: > >> Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one >> foot to touch the ground." >> >> Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height? >> >> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote: >> >>> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. >>> With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch >>> the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any >>> smaller or any larger. >>> >>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> David, Here is a chart from the Riv site: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh Bob On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: > Good morning, Bones, > > Just sent a PM. > > > Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? > I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. > > Thanks all! > > David > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. >> >> Bones >> >> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >> >>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >>> Philadelphia) >>> >>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard >>> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply >>> do >>> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each >>> type >>> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than >>> some >>> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I >>> used to >>> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the >>> drive >>> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and >>> there. >>> The attached pictures should show it all. >>> >>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >>> Bones >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/666dada2-d13c-4e18-ab8f-ceef381ea57dn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Ben, That's an interesting question: To "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch the ground." You replied: "Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?" Imagine a very steep seat tube angle - saddle almost directly above the pedals vs a very slack seat tube angle- the saddle quite behind the bottom bracket. Even if you kept the bottom bracket height the same (there is some variablity between "low" road bikes and "high" cross bikes) you could imagine the difference. Even with 75 and 71 degree seat angle the difference can be noticeable - close to an inch. Does that make sense? Edwin On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 11:37:15 PM UTC-6 Ben Miller wrote: > Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one > foot to touch the ground." > > Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height? > > On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote: > >> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. >> With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch >> the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any >> smaller or any larger. >> >> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Here is a chart from the Riv site: >>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh >>> >>> Bob >>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: >>> Good morning, Bones, Just sent a PM. Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. Thanks all! David On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. > > Bones > > On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >> Philadelphia) >> >> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard >> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply >> do >> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each >> type >> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some >> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used >> to >> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive >> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and >> there. >> The attached pictures should show it all. >> >> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >> Bones >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5a8bd428-1b95-43da-9451-2a138db5d1ban%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Been busy at work and lost sight of this. Frame is still available, feel free to PM me if you are interested. Bones On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 9:30:09 AM UTC-5 Friend wrote: > > Ah, good point. The standover, at 92cm PBH, is just short of the groin > bone. That's the important piece. > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 12:37:15 AM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: > >> Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one >> foot to touch the ground." >> >> Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height? >> >> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote: >> >>> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. >>> With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch >>> the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any >>> smaller or any larger. >>> >>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> David, Here is a chart from the Riv site: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh Bob On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: > Good morning, Bones, > > Just sent a PM. > > > Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? > I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. > > Thanks all! > > David > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. >> >> Bones >> >> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >> >>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >>> Philadelphia) >>> >>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard >>> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply >>> do >>> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each >>> type >>> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than >>> some >>> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I >>> used to >>> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the >>> drive >>> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and >>> there. >>> The attached pictures should show it all. >>> >>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >>> Bones >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eed472aa-d2ef-4c72-b720-269503c7e4d6n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Ah, good point. The standover, at 92cm PBH, is just short of the groin bone. That's the important piece. On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 12:37:15 AM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: > Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one > foot to touch the ground." > > Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height? > > On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote: > >> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. >> With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch >> the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any >> smaller or any larger. >> >> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Here is a chart from the Riv site: >>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh >>> >>> Bob >>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: >>> Good morning, Bones, Just sent a PM. Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. Thanks all! David On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. > > Bones > > On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >> Philadelphia) >> >> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard >> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply >> do >> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each >> type >> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some >> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used >> to >> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive >> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and >> there. >> The attached pictures should show it all. >> >> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >> Bones >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1b9b97ed-a7b9-4359-98a0-deb5df793a60n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch the ground." Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height? On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote: > I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. > With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch > the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any > smaller or any larger. > > On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com wrote: > >> David, >> >> Here is a chart from the Riv site: >> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh >> >> Bob >> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: >> >>> Good morning, Bones, >>> >>> Just sent a PM. >>> >>> >>> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? >>> I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. >>> >>> Thanks all! >>> >>> David >>> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. Bones On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of > Philadelphia) > > Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard > time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do > not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each > type > of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some > mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used > to > use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive > side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and > there. > The attached pictures should show it all. > > Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! > Bones > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/71cfea8e-aed2-4aad-b0ed-f4f65112caa3n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch the ground. Stand over is right at my groin bone. I would ride it any smaller or any larger. On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com wrote: > David, > > Here is a chart from the Riv site: > https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh > > Bob > On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: > >> Good morning, Bones, >> >> Just sent a PM. >> >> >> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've >> hunted around online and can't turn anything up. >> >> Thanks all! >> >> David >> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >> >>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. >>> >>> Bones >>> >>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of Philadelphia) Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each type of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used to use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. The attached pictures should show it all. Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! Bones >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed8dbdca-6dcc-489f-9a49-6bb975e62372n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
David, Here is a chart from the Riv site: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh Bob On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote: > Good morning, Bones, > > Just sent a PM. > > > Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've > hunted around online and can't turn anything up. > > Thanks all! > > David > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. >> >> Bones >> >> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: >> >>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >>> Philadelphia) >>> >>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard time >>> finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do not >>> need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each type of >>> riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some mild >>> depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used to use. >>> There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive side >>> chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. The >>> attached pictures should show it all. >>> >>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >>> Bones >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/28e2fc82-3671-4a4d-acb2-29b4f59f3424n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Good morning, Bones, Just sent a PM. Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up. Thanks all! David On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. > > Bones > > On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > >> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of >> Philadelphia) >> >> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard time >> finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do not >> need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each type of >> riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some mild >> depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used to use. >> There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive side >> chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. The >> attached pictures should show it all. >> >> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! >> Bones >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/34024f1f-c2cd-4b10-961f-cc9a37c9a74an%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS
Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer. Bones On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote: > $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of > Philadelphia) > > Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard time > finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do not > need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each type of > riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some mild > depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used to use. > There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive side > chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. The > attached pictures should show it all. > > Please PM me with any questions. Thanks! > Bones > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a123a532-fbf8-4711-a130-bcff7ccc0199n%40googlegroups.com.
