[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-17 Thread Rob
Looks like a great trip! 

Definitely want to hear more about the portable Settlers...:) 

And was that a Large or Medium Saddlesack? And was that your black bag also, 
with sleeping bag? I'm curious to see if I could fit everything for a S24O 
in a Saddlesack

Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-17 Thread Anne Paulson
I wanted to see if I could fit everything for a S24O in my large Saddlesack.

I have an MSR Hubba one-person tent, a down sleeping bag and a Big
Agnes air mattress that folds up small. Those three things would
pretty much fill up a Saddlesack. There'd be no room for a warm
sweater, a hat, a Trangia, white gas and food, let alone portable
Settlers.

So my answer is no, a large Saddlesack is not big enough for me for a S24O.

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like a great trip!

 Definitely want to hear more about the portable Settlers...:)

 And was that a Large or Medium Saddlesack? And was that your black bag also,
 with sleeping bag? I'm curious to see if I could fit everything for a S24O
 in a Saddlesack

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-17 Thread Mike
I carried everything for an S24O in a medium SS and a front trunck
sack last year. This didn't include a tent but I definitely had
everything that I needed. I realize what one needs can vary depending
on weather, comfort needs, food, etc... Still, I would think that a
Large SS could do the job.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4945981066/in/set-72157613195465589

And even more minimal load was used on my first S24O back in 2007:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/1074699762/in/set-72157615006576577

And to the original poster, great pictures. Thanks for posting.

I camped out at Samuel P. Taylor many times when in Boyscouts and a
couple of times in the 80s when I went out there with friends and a
ton of beer. When I started cycling in the 90s I would often ride the
bike path through there but never had a desire to bike camp, but
now... if I was still in SF I'm sure I'd make it an S24O destination
along with Pt Reyes and especially Pantoll. Pantoll seems like a
really great destination for a weekday S240 with easy access to Peet's
in Mill Valley for coffee in the morning. Maybe even a little
excursion up RR Grade before heading to Peet's.

I may have to go bike camping tomorrow night as the weather in PDX is
supposed to be great.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-17 Thread Naz Hamid
Steve:
Yes, a VO Polyvalent! Just the VO porteur front rack on it too.

Anne and Rob:

Portable Settlers is simply the Travel Edition which you can get from
Amazon or if there's a local toy/board game store in your area.
Otherwise:
http://www.amazon.com/Settlers-of-Catan-Travel-Edition/dp/B00028X3ZO

Re: saddlesack. It's actually the Small!

Fully loaded, my rig was light:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/judah42/5701330998/in/photostream

The reason was that out of the three of us, Corey had the tent and
cooking stuff in panniers and a front rack as well as tarps and so on.
Thus, my personal load was light.

That said — I lean towards packing smart with minimalism in mind. I
based my kit off of Grant's Kit for One Night Out article. I didn't
have a tent, sleeping pad or cooking gear with me but I can't imagine,
having seen what those items were like in size, having to go bigger
than a Medium or Large Saddlesack. If you attach the pad, tent or
sleeping bag to the top of the bag behind you, as I did, or on a small
front rack, I still imagine that a Medium or Large Saddlesack is just
fine.

My gear inside the small saddlesack was plenty for an overnighter. I
had on some Outlier pants, an Icebreaker mid-weight LS top with a
Rapha jersey on top of that for the ride. In the bag, a gilet, a
Patagonia LS wool baselayer, a Patagonia down sweater (which is really
a down jacket that compresses to the size of a grapefruit but is oh so
toasty), Smartwool hiking socks for camp/sleeping, toothbrush/
toothpaste, mess kit, bandana, full toolkit (made up of small smart
bits) and spare bungies and ziploc baggies.

I could have used some room to tote food perhaps and I think a folded
mussette bag would work well near the end of a ride to pick up food to
carry on my back or small runs.

I think obviously you can go both ways — I've read and learnt from the
kit that Anne's posted in the archives and from others so you can
carry more for sure. It depends if you go solo or with a group. With a
group, you can distribute the load a bit more.

Looks like this weekend we're going to China Camp and I think I'll be
trying some new things... will report back.

Cheers!
Naz.

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[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-16 Thread manueljohnacosta
Awesome pictures Naz! Looked like lovely weather.

On May 16, 11:23 am, Naz Hamid absen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thought I'd make a proper post as I'm a long-time lurker and reply-er
 but never first time poster.

 A few friends and I have all recently reached that point in our
 cycling lives where we've sold or barely ride our track bikes, where
 the road bikes see less and less use and our racings days are long
 gone and the interest is in purely remembering how much fun the first
 time we rode bicycles was like. We've all collectively encouraged each
 other to build up Riv-ish bikes (though, aside from my wife, none of
 us have a Riv — a Bob Jackson, an old Gitane and a Velo Orange) and
 being in the Bay Area finally decided we'd take these lovely bikes and
 go bike camping for the first time.

 I won't bore you with a soliloquy on how much of a wonderful weekend
 it was, with moments of pure child-like joy and wonderment (at least
 in my mind) and the feeling of the freedom that comes with riding a
 bike.

 Thus, photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/sets/72157626701948778/

 Cheers!
 Naz.

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[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.

2011-05-16 Thread islaysteve
Very nice, Naz.  Your photos make me envious and homesick for
California. Is that a VO Polyvalent?  Steve


On May 16, 2:23 pm, Naz Hamid absen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thought I'd make a proper post as I'm a long-time lurker and reply-er
 but never first time poster.

 A few friends and I have all recently reached that point in our
 cycling lives where we've sold or barely ride our track bikes, where
 the road bikes see less and less use and our racings days are long
 gone and the interest is in purely remembering how much fun the first
 time we rode bicycles was like. We've all collectively encouraged each
 other to build up Riv-ish bikes (though, aside from my wife, none of
 us have a Riv — a Bob Jackson, an old Gitane and a Velo Orange) and
 being in the Bay Area finally decided we'd take these lovely bikes and
 go bike camping for the first time.

 I won't bore you with a soliloquy on how much of a wonderful weekend
 it was, with moments of pure child-like joy and wonderment (at least
 in my mind) and the feeling of the freedom that comes with riding a
 bike.

 Thus, photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/absenter/sets/72157626701948778/

 Cheers!
 Naz.

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