[RBW] Re: Fitting my SimpleOne not so simple

2012-08-22 Thread allenmichael 
Have you tried different bars? I have a Nitto Torsion bar, a flat bar with 
a little backsweep (made for Surly) on my Simple One (58), and I really 
enjoy the way that it rides. I may narrow it a little at some point, but 
the handling and comfort are excellent as is.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:41:38 AM UTC-7, Matt wrote:
>
> Hello Rivers,
>
> I'm running out of ideas, so wondered about soliciting some brainstorming 
> and help.
>
> In the spring, I bought one of the last 62cm SimpleOne's on Closeout.  It 
> is lovely, but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to fit right. 
>
> Here it 
> is,
>  
> as originally set up fixed at ~63 gear inches with a 120mm Nitto Tech 
> Deluxe stem, 48cm Noodle bars, Nitto 83 seat post, and Brooks B17 saddle.  
> I'm 6'2" tall, 185lbs, with a PBH of ~90cm.
>
> No matter what adjustments I've made, I can't get my hands and arms to 
> feel comfortable on the bicycle.  
>
> I know I like the vast majority of my weight on the saddle and away from 
> my hands, so have put the saddle as far back over the rear wheel as the 
> post will allow and have tried putting the handlebars up higher as well.  
> Recently, I changed out the 120mm stem for a 100mm Tallux, hoping it would 
> move my centre of mass rearward, but my hands, arms and upper body still 
> feel "propped' on the bicycle.  Despite the marked up-tilt on my saddle, my 
> behind still seems to slide forward as well.
>
> Have others experienced something similar?  What advice might you offer in 
> adjusting the bike to fit me better?  
>
> Is it more realistic to give up and trade the SO for a Hilborne with it's 
> nice lax 71.5 degree seat tube angle to put my weight  where I want it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt
>

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[RBW] Re: Fitting my SimpleOne not so simple

2012-08-21 Thread Peter Pesce 
A Sam isn't a simple answer - my QB fits me better than my Sam (60cm), and 
I'm about the same height as you.

That being said, I was only able to get my Sam to work with a setback 
seatpost. And it actually worked better for to keep the stem as is and just 
move my butt back. It seems to me that a small movement of the saddle is 
equivalent to a larger change in the stem in terms of moving your center of 
gravity, perhaps because there is much more weight on your saddle.

Interestingly, my QB (a 62cm) works fine without the setback, although I 
currently have the bars set a bit lower in "fast roadie" mode.

Good luck. There's nothing as satisfying as that moment when you get the 
fit dialed in!

Pete in CT

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:41:38 PM UTC-4, Matt wrote:
>
> Hello Rivers,
>
> I'm running out of ideas, so wondered about soliciting some brainstorming 
> and help.
>
> In the spring, I bought one of the last 62cm SimpleOne's on Closeout.  It 
> is lovely, but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to fit right. 
>
> Here it 
> is,
>  
> as originally set up fixed at ~63 gear inches with a 120mm Nitto Tech 
> Deluxe stem, 48cm Noodle bars, Nitto 83 seat post, and Brooks B17 saddle.  
> I'm 6'2" tall, 185lbs, with a PBH of ~90cm.
>
> No matter what adjustments I've made, I can't get my hands and arms to 
> feel comfortable on the bicycle.  
>
> I know I like the vast majority of my weight on the saddle and away from 
> my hands, so have put the saddle as far back over the rear wheel as the 
> post will allow and have tried putting the handlebars up higher as well.  
> Recently, I changed out the 120mm stem for a 100mm Tallux, hoping it would 
> move my centre of mass rearward, but my hands, arms and upper body still 
> feel "propped' on the bicycle.  Despite the marked up-tilt on my saddle, my 
> behind still seems to slide forward as well.
>
> Have others experienced something similar?  What advice might you offer in 
> adjusting the bike to fit me better?  
>
> Is it more realistic to give up and trade the SO for a Hilborne with it's 
> nice lax 71.5 degree seat tube angle to put my weight  where I want it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt
>

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[RBW] Re: Fitting my SimpleOne not so simple

2012-08-21 Thread Jeremy Till 
I feel your pain--been struggling with fit for a few years and only 
recently got to a place where I feel like i'm getting a handle on it.  

I think you're on the right track with sliding the saddle back, tilting it 
up, and trying a shorter stem to get your weight back.  It's a big 
investment, but I've gone for the Nitto S-84 "Wayback" seatpost on two 
bikes now in order to achieve what I feel like is comfortable setback 
without cantilevering my weight on rails pushed way back from the saddle 
clamp.  That might be a better/cheaper/more effective solution than going 
immediately to a Hillborne.  Recently, on my road bike, my handlebars have 
followed the up-tilt trend, rotating them up so the ramps are flat and the 
hoods tilt slightly upward, and that has also made things better and more 
balanced; that might be another thing to try.

Also remember that fixed gear riding, especially with low-ish gears, puts 
much different stresses on your body and position than a geared/coastable 
riding.  I find when riding fixed there's many more situations, especially 
riding at a brisk pace on the flats or slightly downhill, where i'm 
weighting my butt and hands in order to let my legs spin, or using my arms 
and upper body to brace my legs while resisting the pedals to slow down.  
Because of this, I tend to prefer fixed gears to have upright bars and 
cushy grips (like Oury's), especially since I use fixed gears mostly for 
transportation riding.  I just built up a 64cm Quickbeam fixed gear with 
Bullmoose bars for this purpose, and it's great.  Pics soon!

Check out Matt Chester's articles on fixed gear setup on the old 63xc.com 
"offroad fixed gear" online mag.  He's got some good insights in there:

http://63xc.com/mattc/setup.htm
http://63xc.com/mattc/setup2.htm

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:41:38 AM UTC-7, Matt wrote:
>
> Hello Rivers,
>
> I'm running out of ideas, so wondered about soliciting some brainstorming 
> and help.
>
> In the spring, I bought one of the last 62cm SimpleOne's on Closeout.  It 
> is lovely, but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to fit right. 
>
> Here it 
> is,
>  
> as originally set up fixed at ~63 gear inches with a 120mm Nitto Tech 
> Deluxe stem, 48cm Noodle bars, Nitto 83 seat post, and Brooks B17 saddle.  
> I'm 6'2" tall, 185lbs, with a PBH of ~90cm.
>
> No matter what adjustments I've made, I can't get my hands and arms to 
> feel comfortable on the bicycle.  
>
> I know I like the vast majority of my weight on the saddle and away from 
> my hands, so have put the saddle as far back over the rear wheel as the 
> post will allow and have tried putting the handlebars up higher as well.  
> Recently, I changed out the 120mm stem for a 100mm Tallux, hoping it would 
> move my centre of mass rearward, but my hands, arms and upper body still 
> feel "propped' on the bicycle.  Despite the marked up-tilt on my saddle, my 
> behind still seems to slide forward as well.
>
> Have others experienced something similar?  What advice might you offer in 
> adjusting the bike to fit me better?  
>
> Is it more realistic to give up and trade the SO for a Hilborne with it's 
> nice lax 71.5 degree seat tube angle to put my weight  where I want it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Matt
>

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